The Wrong Stuff: NASA, Politics and the Mercury 13. | Amy Shira Teitel | TEDxUniversityofRochester

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  • Amy talks about the American Mercury missions to space that occurred in the early and mid-1960s in preparation for the Apollo missions that eventually landed Americans on the moon on July 20, 1969.
    Amy Shira Teitel is a lifelong space history nerd who has turned a childhood fascination with the Moon landings into a career. Over the years she has written for over a dozen online and print outlets including Discovery News and Al Jazeera English, and appeared in several TV series, most notably in NASA's Unexplained Files. Her first book, Breaking the Chains of Gravity, was released in 2016. She currently maintains her personal UA-cam channel as well as the popular Vintage Space channel, among a whole other whack of insane and awesome projects.
    This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at www.ted.com/tedx

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  • @kelli217
    @kelli217 7 років тому +125

    This is a great talk. I would complain to the production staff about the blown-out audio.

    • @InARoundaboutWay
      @InARoundaboutWay 6 років тому +10

      I'm involved in live AV events professionally, specializing in sound, and someone needs their lights punching out. Distortion on a digital recording is *unforgiveable*.

    • @Gibson99
      @Gibson99 6 років тому +4

      not to mention the camera operators not showing the slides she keeps referring to...

    • @ceejayhey8544
      @ceejayhey8544 6 років тому +2

      It was as if the audio was sabotaged for sexist intent . . . .

    • @fillemptytummy
      @fillemptytummy 6 років тому +2

      InARoundaboutWay Nothing wrong with the lights, just the pants and microphone.

    • @gritsngravy1226
      @gritsngravy1226 5 років тому +1

      @@Gibson99 don't hate the camera operator he or she is doing fine this is a dual camera shoot wide tight or single 4k camera posted in 1080 wide and they zoom in in post tight.. , blame the editor who posted this they could of gotten a copy of the slides and went full screen when she referred to them . the audio issue this could of been a super low budget one person camera+audio+ edit job and they did the best they can do. To the AV events guy, not every event I cover as a videographer has a audio person, I mic the talent for my own recorded audio and yes i know how to record correctly, and house does there job with house audio and its usually some minimum wage kid who cares less it sounds like sheet, plus look at the size of that mic cable on her is it from the 80's

  • @sgcollins
    @sgcollins 6 років тому +60

    "Who's doing the sound?" - "Nobody, we don't have the budget. Just leave it on Automatic Gain Control, it'll be fine!"

    • @Frontdesk99
      @Frontdesk99 3 роки тому +1

      Incredibly amateuristic. Not Amy's fault of course, but please... What is it with educational institutions and technology? Reminds me of my biology-professor who could never get a simple VCR running.

  • @RonaldLAbbey
    @RonaldLAbbey 7 років тому +62

    Amy always delivers a great video on her UA-cam channel, & this is not a exception. She always educates, entertains, & brings you into her camp with her infective excitement & passion for her topics. I hope to see her do more TEDx Talks soon!!!

  • @philliberatore4265
    @philliberatore4265 7 років тому +1

    Thank you for the talk, Amy. I think the most surprising part of the whole thing was you mention the number of people who never heard of the "Cold War".

  • @johndemeritt3460
    @johndemeritt3460 7 років тому +11

    Great talk, Amy!
    You mentioned the WASP program in World War II, and let me offer a gentle correction: WASP was the Women Airforce Service Pilots. The official WASP archive is housed in the Texas Woman's University's Blagg-Huey Library in Denton, Texas. Feel free to drop by for some research material on this fascinating chapter of aerospace history!

    • @Acorn0005
      @Acorn0005 7 років тому +11

      These talks would be really great except Amy injects her SJW revisionist history into more and more of her shtick. She flat out claims that the WASPS were formed to do the "dirty" and "dangerous" crappy jobs that the (obviously chauvinistic) men wouldn't lower themselves to do. Yeah. Right. Whatever... the WASPS were formed to take over for male transport pilots to free them up FOR COMBAT FLYING!!!! Which job do YOU think is crappier??? Get real. This back door propaganda ruins so much great content she could share.

    • @johndemeritt3460
      @johndemeritt3460 7 років тому +15

      Marty, you wrote, "She flat out claims that the WASPS were formed to do the "dirty" and
      "dangerous" crappy jobs that the (obviously chauvinistic) men wouldn't
      lower themselves to do." Actually, there's a certain truth to the idea that these were jobs that "men wouldn't lower themselves to do." The WASPs flew a lot of missions that men really didn't want to do -- like liaison, ferrying and target towing. They weren't the "glamorous" (albeit more dangerous) jobs, like combat fighter pilot -- even though the WASPs flew the same aircraft the men flew. If memory serves me correctly, the WASPs suffered casualties, too -- 38 of them lost their lives flying for the Army Air Corps.
      As to the chauvinism Amy mentioned -- that was a historical fact of the day. While the Women's Army Corps (WAC) and the Women's Accepted for Voluntary Emergency Service (WAVES) were uniformed members of their respective branches of the armed forces, the WASPs were considered civilian employees of the War Department. The WASPs were required to live in barracks, wear Army flight suits and uniforms, and generally obey Army regulations -- but they had to pay for their uniforms, flight suits and accommodations. They even had to pay for their own transportation home and their own funerals if they died in the line of duty. 38 women died in the line of duty, and while men who died in the line of duty had funerals paid for by their service, the WASPs had to take up collections to pay for transportation and burial costs of their sister pilots who died in the line of duty.
      In 1944, after roughly two years' service that released many men for combat -- after being promised that the WASPs would be incorporated into the Army Air Corps -- the WASPs were summarily disbanded. And they weren't even given train fare home. The WASPs weren't even recognized as veterans eligible for VA benefits until 1977. And it was just last year that they were admitted for interment at Arlington National Cemetery -- for which their families had to go over the Secretary of the Army's head to get authorization for the first WASP to have her ashes interred.
      Were the WASPs treated badly? OH, Hell Yes, they were! And at the time, it was just accepted as how women were treated.
      That was then -- this is now. Let's honor the sacrifices the WASPs made to serve their country. Amy might have made some mistakes in telling about the WASPs' contributions, but she's essentially on the right track, and more people need to hear the truth of the WASPs. We need everyone in America to contribute to our society -- and that especially means letting the next generation of women know that we want them to be everything they can be as this great country moves forward.

    • @rockanne1202
      @rockanne1202 7 років тому +3

      The problem is Amy emphasizes the flights were more dangerous and "horrifying" which is ridiculous and lowers her credibility for anything else she says.

    • @johndemeritt3460
      @johndemeritt3460 7 років тому +5

      You wrote, "Amy emphasizes the flights were more dangerous and 'horrifying' ". Which flights were you referring to? If you're talking about duties the WASPs carried out, I find it difficult to believe that anything a pilot can do would be much more harrowing than allowing adolescents with automatic weapons fire .50 caliber rounds toward a target you're towing in the air. Think about it -- if they get the lead wrong, you've got heavy machine gun rounds coming at your airplane! Granted, the tow aircraft the WASPs flew were armored more than normal aircraft and the gunners practicing aerial gunnery were using frangible rounds. Nonetheless, if you're flying a target-towing plane, people are shooting at you, and you have to let them! It would be like driving the ball scooping machine on a driving range -- except that you're a few thousand feet in the air and the people on the "driving range" are hitting armor-piercing golf balls!
      I wouldn't choose that duty if I could avoid it -- but the WASPs took it on and performed like champs!

    • @brainfreeze44131
      @brainfreeze44131 7 років тому +6

      Amy is wrong in that it wasn't dirty jobs that men didn't want to do. It was jobs that by using women, freed up men to fight in the war. An example is using women to fairy planes.

  • @perryspencer1135
    @perryspencer1135 2 роки тому

    I love everything Amy. She is multi talented and so much fun to watch speak. Amazing talent. Doesn’t hurt she is classically beautiful.

  • @Godzukidan
    @Godzukidan 7 років тому +9

    Wow I just learned a lot. Thanks Amy.

  • @michaelgrey7854
    @michaelgrey7854 3 роки тому

    Nice to see the slides too...

  • @timgoodall737
    @timgoodall737 7 років тому +3

    That was a great presentation - thank you!

  • @AL5J_
    @AL5J_ Рік тому

    Great lecture @amy

  • @aleksandrasidorovich4026
    @aleksandrasidorovich4026 5 років тому

    That's an example of a talk that should've had better production and more views. Great work, Amy! By the way, she has a UA-cam-channel called "Vintage Space", which I highly recommend.

  • @michaelsvinyls4296
    @michaelsvinyls4296 7 років тому +17

    Wow nobody at this University ever heard of the Mercury 13?

  • @charlesdp
    @charlesdp 5 років тому

    Well done!!!

  • @fleevm
    @fleevm 6 років тому +1

    Only thing about Ted videos is the director pays zero attention to the talk. They completely ignore the speakers cues to refer to the visual and keep the camera centered on the speaker. Seen this on many Ted videos.

  • @mongomoonbladder8023
    @mongomoonbladder8023 7 років тому +2

    Imagine.... It could have been Armstrong, Aldrin and Cobb.

  • @apgarcia2909
    @apgarcia2909 2 роки тому

    I am beginning to think NASA is too political along with the FAA and wish Space X would take more of NASA's duties.

  • @jerrodl
    @jerrodl 6 років тому +5

    Interesting talk, Horrible production -- show the pictures and get something better than an electrified soup can for audio

  • @UTubeGlennAR
    @UTubeGlennAR 6 років тому

    :)
    Jacqueline Cochran and Friends: Great n Interesting talk Ms Amy, Thank You........
    Happily decades ago I realized that old saying that
    "Behind Every Great Man, there is a Greater Woman" Is Vary True.........
    Sadly after becoming a widower less than a year ago I realize that the Validity of this Statment
    is Vary True and is hammered home much more than on a daily basis....
    My father was career Navy (22 yrs). His last assignemt (Chief QuarterMaster LST 1110)
    would take him from Hawaii to Barrow Alaska in the summer months to help build the DEW line
    across the top of Alaska n Canada. He would be away 6 months at time......
    My father's job was easy compared to my Mother's job of raising my big sis and I alone in
    rural Hawaii (Waianae) where We Were the Minorities and there was no Departrment of
    Defence and the US Navy's chain of command behind her to rely on......
    > ' - '

    • @rainbomg
      @rainbomg 3 роки тому

      _beside_ every great man, maybe. :)
      I’m sorry for your loss

  • @dustintaber
    @dustintaber 6 років тому +1

    Amy looking like a snack

  • @kennethbutler1343
    @kennethbutler1343 5 років тому

    I love Amy's 'Vintage Space' but here she's talking so fast I assume she has a hot date after the lecture... AMY! Take a breath...

  • @KypHeM
    @KypHeM 7 років тому

    they talk about Space but can't get good sound working.... fire your sound engineer.

  • @gajacome1
    @gajacome1 5 років тому

    I like the history of this and her videos but she is twisting facts with what happened

  • @jimnething1264
    @jimnething1264 7 років тому

    • @zerofox1551
      @zerofox1551 7 років тому +1

      You and every other guy who's here!

  • @Denis-fp7ku
    @Denis-fp7ku 6 років тому

    Real men don't send the mothers of the next generation into harm's way.

  • @earth111
    @earth111 7 років тому +3

    Mother trick! She's round, get a falcon heavy

  • @lancejensen9328
    @lancejensen9328 7 років тому +12

    too much feminist BS not enough discussion about mercury missions.

    • @edsmith2562
      @edsmith2562 7 років тому +10

      Did you see the title of the talk?

    • @Angus_Gibson
      @Angus_Gibson 6 років тому

      Glass ego trigger alert!

  • @guesser7
    @guesser7 7 років тому

    I don't rate her. I mean... she believes men went to the moon, and that is impossible.

  • @andrewtaylor940
    @andrewtaylor940 7 років тому +66

    It's a great telling of some unsung unknown candidates for the astronaut corp. But it ignores what is perhaps the most critical fact in NASA's decision making process at the time. Terashkova (sp?) was able to fly for the Soviets for the simple reason that the Soviets flew secretly. No reports on their flights were issued until AFTER the missions success. NASA was doing everything live and unfiltered before the public. The Soviets could showcase the heroism of the first woman in space, only because they had the capability to hide the horror of the first woman dying in space. NASA's funding and support could not survive the death of a woman in such a manner. There was a subtler reason that Eisenhauer had insisted on Military Test Pilots. They were by nature, in a way quietly understood by the public who had just fought WW2, Expendable. Military Test Pilots were expected to die pushing the envelope. That's what Test Pilots did. A Housewife with 9 kids dying in space to push the envelope? 25 years after the events described here we had the Challenger disaster. To this day the only name on everyones lips regarding that tragic flight is Christa McAuliffe. The Housewife/schoolteacher who died in space. That event has haunted NASA for decades. Stiffarming the "Mercury 13" wasn't simply an act to shield women. Note that as soon as John Glenn was too much of a public hero, had too much of the public eye on him he was pulled from flight rotation. NASA could not afford to lose him publicly. What's the line from the Right Stuff "What Makes the Rockets Go Up? Funding Makes the Rockets Go up" well in the late 50's through the 60's Dead Women were a sure fire way to achieve denied funding. The Soviets due to their secret and compartmentalized nature did not have PR problems.

    • @pointlessgimmickyusername9196
      @pointlessgimmickyusername9196 7 років тому +16

      >"in the late 50's through the 60's Dead Women were a sure fire way to achieve denied funding. The Soviets due to their secret and compartmentalized nature did not have PR problems."
      This is true. Also Soviets were less concerned with PR, and far, far, less effective with it (in contrast with America, who really prioritized PR, and also have totally dominated international media, from well before the space race started, til today, providing an unbeatable platform for their narrative). Which is why the average guy on the streets believes America "won the space race", despite the fact that USSR got just about every 'first' in regards to space *except* "first man on the moon".
      Sputnik, Laika, and Gagarin are pretty well known, but the Soviets also got; first craft to the moon, first (unmanned) lunar landing (both soft and hard landings), first photos of the far side of the moon, first samples returned and vehicle on moon, first solar orbit, first life in space (Laika), first life safely returned to Earth (not Laika. RIP Laika), first planetary fly-by, first planetary landing- both hard and soft (all Venus), first Mars landing (both hard and soft),, first spacewalk, first space station. first multi-man crew, first woman inspace, first craft to craft transfer. And of course first object (Sputnik) and first man (Gagarin). Plus at pretty much any given time the Soviets had the "longest time in space" record.
      I mean sure, Apollo 11 and the moon landing was legitimately important, and into the 70s and 80s America started to dominate more, but in the real early, pioneering days of the 50s and 60s, the Soviets were the clear leaders, despite their weak PR skills. And I suspect that if America had got the first man in space, instead of Gagarin, *that* would be seen as the defining moment of the space race by the average guy on the street today, instead of Armstrongs "one small step".
      Personally I think you could make a pretty good argument that the Soviets won the space race, but the Americans won the *PR* race.

    • @jimoberg3326
      @jimoberg3326 6 років тому +4

      Actually, all the Soviet human space missions were announced soon after launch -- NOT waiting until a safe return. But the 'woman in space' idea was a pure stunt that the Soviets always would have pre-empted because they knew our schedule.

    • @theice-nineproject9275
      @theice-nineproject9275 6 років тому +2

      The line was "No bucks, no Buck Rogers."

    • @martyzielinski2469
      @martyzielinski2469 6 років тому +2

      We’ll put, Andrew. So maybe sexism WASN’T the primary reason women were passed over.

    • @deficator750
      @deficator750 5 років тому

      Not to mention the pressure of a suicide mission if their space ship fails. These guys weren’t going on a vacation it was a all or none mission. They were going in to space anything that goes wrong and they are dead but they are supposed to focus on their mission to the end. 3 female astronaut will never be able to accomplish this because they would panic and mission would immediately be a fail.

  • @chrisrasmussen1833
    @chrisrasmussen1833 4 роки тому +11

    I Love Amy Shira Teiltal!

  • @philipwade1908
    @philipwade1908 6 років тому +18

    I loved this video, thank you for telling her story. I am, however a little dissapointed in the way the speaker dismissed Valentina Tereshkova's mission merely a political decision- She's a hero to her country and her story is also one of grit and determination- the difference is that she was given her chance and she performed equally as well as any of her male counterparts and faced the same level of hostility from men in power. If you show any Russian person her photo, they will tell you who she is, which is not the case for Sally Ride. The cold war is over, time for a little bit of credit where it's due

    • @xWood4000
      @xWood4000 4 роки тому +5

      I'm really happy that she has corrected some of her mistakes on her UA-cam channel in this talk

    • @dongiovanni4331
      @dongiovanni4331 3 роки тому +1

      It's a real shame that Valentina was grounded after Vostok 6.

    • @ablewindsor1459
      @ablewindsor1459 3 роки тому

      What about the other five Russian women chosen to fly but discarded as soon as the FIRST was recorded....

  • @fernandomorte7843
    @fernandomorte7843 7 років тому +65

    She kinda looks like a Mercury Redstone rocket with those pants. The red hair being the escape tower.

    • @christopheratcher9955
      @christopheratcher9955 6 років тому +4

      Good observation! I think it was intentional.

    • @JeffGR4
      @JeffGR4 5 років тому +2

      Fernando Morte - Excellence in abstract thinking... I love it!

    •  5 років тому +3

      It is a 50 - 60 ish sorta outfit. Very appropiate for the subject and I think it is intentional.

    • @carlslombrousky5410
      @carlslombrousky5410 3 роки тому

      @Practical Skeptic stop

    • @ablewindsor1459
      @ablewindsor1459 3 роки тому

      I wonder iS Amy a grandchild of Wally Shira ????? ( One of the Original Seven Mercury Astronauts)

  • @digitalranger4259
    @digitalranger4259 6 років тому +8

    Interesting video, but it would have been nice to see some of the slides she's talking about.

  • @johnvanpelt3241
    @johnvanpelt3241 7 років тому +21

    I didn't know most of that stuff! Informative and inspiring. Now finish that Saturn V for us 😊

  • @Ranillon
    @Ranillon 7 років тому +17

    I almost hate to say this, but the reason why the women were stopped being astronauts wasn't per se a case of misogyny. Rather, as I've seem related more than once in the various autobiographies of astronauts I've read, they fought them being included because bringing in ANYONE meant that those already in the system would therefore have a greater amount of people to compete against for mission slots. This was the primary reason why the astronaut corps also fought bringing in scientists - sure, they talked about them not being good pilots, etc., but in the end it boiled down to restricting the total number of competing astronauts so that those that were already in the program had a better chance of flying. So, I guess it's still discrimination of a sort, but it was discrimination of those "in" against anyone currently "out."

  • @NorthernBirdBoy
    @NorthernBirdBoy 6 років тому +6

    Brilliant absolutely brilliant, I never heard of this lady or of the other ladies involved which says alot about it really. Times are changing but we still have a long way to go. Disgraceful how she and all the women were treated. Excellent presentation.

  • @LuisSoto-ho5fw
    @LuisSoto-ho5fw 3 роки тому +1

    Loved this video. But while I understand and agree that Amy is extremely attractive, I would have liked it better if they actually showed more of the slides she was talking about.

  • @tdplumer
    @tdplumer 7 років тому +28

    Good job, Amy. The best histories are those which are most inclusive. As such, the contributions of women must be included. It pisses me off that these women got such short shrift. 'Good-on-ya for telling their story.

    • @EricIrl
      @EricIrl 7 років тому +3

      As the Irish say, "It was the times that were in it". Even though these women were more than capabl;e of flying a Mercury spacecraft, they hadn't come through the military ranks like the men had and that meanty they would not have qualified on the "security clearance" issue. Also, there was no inclination at that time for the [powers that be to consider a woman for such a job. It took the US another 20 years to arrive at that point.

    • @freezatron
      @freezatron 7 років тому +3

      but to be fair, men have taken most of the risks and undertaken most of the achievements, men regularly out perform women across all fields, especially in the top end of intellect, strength and risk taking .... so it is not such a surprise women don't really feature as much as you would fantasize about :)

    • @EricIrl
      @EricIrl 7 років тому +3

      Have you ever thought that throughout history women were blocked from getting the opportunities to compete fairly with men?
      Are you saying that in the modern age women cannot compete, especially intellectually, with men?
      Women are still severely underrepresented in certain areas where there are no reasons why they could not perform just as well as men. The only reason for this is history and attitude and nothing to do with any inherent lack of capability.

    • @freezatron
      @freezatron 7 років тому +2

      that's a lot of whining, I'm saying men regularly out perform women across all fields, especially intellectually, women just can't compete on a level playing field in many areas, STEM subjects particularly,
      Highest IQ for a woman is 150 ish for a man its 240
      no one is blocking women in the west, they have way more affirmative action groups than men. women are over represented in Universities and yet their uptake of the hard sciences remains very low, why ?
      And if you want to understand the historical roots of misogyny then look to religion, all religions...
      and if reality hurts your feelings then I suggest you grow a pair :D

    • @EricIrl
      @EricIrl 7 років тому +3

      Tell that to Eileen Collins.
      Matters are a lot better than they were back in 1963, that's for sure. But there is still work to be done. And it's not whining. It's stating reality.

  • @douglaswegener9086
    @douglaswegener9086 5 років тому +4

    Very impressive Ted Talks what a great job you handle yourself so well. I can see how you get young kids into science and space. Very refreshing and restored some hope in the human kind. You rock on,!!

  • @jameswalker5223
    @jameswalker5223 3 роки тому +1

    She lost me @ "awsum sauce"...not to mention the gender politics of it..

  • @ard1805
    @ard1805 4 роки тому +1

    I hear a lot of this speech was completely wrong...

  • @cecasander
    @cecasander 7 років тому +5

    Amy Shira Teitel is great as always! Minor nitpick though, as much as I love watching Amy, it would have been nice to be able to see what was happening on the screen.

  • @Hemifan4266
    @Hemifan4266 3 роки тому +1

    Really, interesting, I never knew any of this. Thanks for a great program.

  • @Matt_Hatt3r
    @Matt_Hatt3r 7 років тому +4

    Interesting info, good presentation, but bad video production. Audio was peaking and you can't see the pictures she's referring to. Would have made it more entertaining to see the faces she was talking about.

  • @stephensmith7405
    @stephensmith7405 3 роки тому +1

    It would be nice to see the pictures that she is seeing?

  • @stevewhoknowswhomisreallyw4282
    @stevewhoknowswhomisreallyw4282 6 років тому +1

    Don't get it twisted. I don't like, Hilary, don't believe she would be a benefit to your society, but I do believe their should be women in space, and office.
    Just my opinion.

  • @raymondheath7668
    @raymondheath7668 7 років тому +6

    Wow, a TED talk, that's an achievement in itself. The subject gave me more info than I had previously known, great job!

  • @Axe2GrindKC
    @Axe2GrindKC 7 років тому +4

    Excellent speech, Amy. I definitely learned something.

  • @Bootmahoy88
    @Bootmahoy88 5 років тому +3

    Very clear, well-organized talk. I learned a few things. Thanks.

  • @jcoronet2000
    @jcoronet2000 7 років тому +4

    good job Amy!! camera guy should zoom out and let us see the pictures

  • @tomthx5804
    @tomthx5804 7 років тому +1

    "What was the cold war?" Kids today are educated to be total idiots if they do not know what the cold war was.

    • @roderickwhitehead
      @roderickwhitehead 7 років тому +1

      Tom thx - not to mention that they are taught a social justice warrior approved revision of history like most of this TED Talk was.

    • @theawecabinet
      @theawecabinet 7 років тому

      Cold war was fake like all wars. Beyond a certain level there was no animosity between the superpowers. It is all joined up at the top. Every war (hot or cold) has been funded by the same elite interests. War is a racket.
      The cold war (like all wars) gave the justification for massive taxation and spending on the military industrial complex. Ka Ching! This is why we have wars.

  • @metaz69u
    @metaz69u 7 років тому +4

    WOW, Awesome Amy strikes, again. U rock it.

  • @samedwards6683
    @samedwards6683 8 місяців тому

    Thanks so much for creating and sharing this informative, educational and timely video. Great job. Keep it up.
    I wish that you would make more videos and find it sad that you have pretty much stopped. But I understand that your interests have changed and so you have moved-on! Sad for me!

  • @pjsebadoh5412
    @pjsebadoh5412 8 місяців тому

    Amy Shira Teitel, I am absolutely in love with her! (Respectfully) 🥰
    She has tons of great content on UA-cam

  • @Thomas1701E
    @Thomas1701E Рік тому

    Was Jennifer Lawrence's character Kate Dibiasky in the movie Don't Look Up based on you?

  • @JackWaldbewohner
    @JackWaldbewohner 4 роки тому

    Amy I read the book. It has brilliant research. Both my daughters got copies. The President of Explore Mars, Inc. got one. A teacher who I mentor got one! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @ArizonaJewell
    @ArizonaJewell 3 роки тому

    This is part of the reason I’m so excited about the Artemis program. It’s about damned time the first woman lands on the moon.

  • @brianpetersen3429
    @brianpetersen3429 7 років тому +5

    Excellent lecture! Full of passion and intelligence.

  • @artdonovandesign
    @artdonovandesign 4 роки тому +2

    How much do you love Amy's vintage space history and incite? I, too, am a vintage space and NASA enthusiast. Having watched every flight- from the first Mercury shots, through Gemini and Apollo. Every bit that was broadcast. How could I have been so privileged to have witnessed it all?

  • @oscarrivers6949
    @oscarrivers6949 4 роки тому

    Smart and beautiful. Who could ask for more?

  • @MichaelJohnson-mh7mp
    @MichaelJohnson-mh7mp 6 місяців тому

    Brilliant! A learning/teaching moment.

  •  7 років тому +1

    Smart, attractive, great sense of style... what's not to like?

  • @chrisvaldez952
    @chrisvaldez952 4 роки тому

    This chick looks a little like Harmony Reigns 😄

  • @abelgarcia514
    @abelgarcia514 3 роки тому

    Why hasn't ESA tried to launch a man or woman?

  • @kougerat5388
    @kougerat5388 4 роки тому

    Great talk shame about the audio ! oh and the stripy pants lol

  • @DarrenMeyer246
    @DarrenMeyer246 3 роки тому +1

    Amy published her Fighting for Space book about this in February 2020, it's fun to see how she was already researching and analyzing this years earlier, and how her narrative has evolved a lot since this much earlier talk to be far more nuanced. She has a self-rebuttal video posted in 2020 on this too.
    The book is a great read, if you're interested in this it's very much worth the time and money to read that.

  • @awuma
    @awuma 7 років тому +1

    I never heard about the "security clearance" bit, and I really doubt it would be a big issue because all sorts of people were being vetted all the time for Government jobs, etc. I understand that John Glenn was particularly vociferous against women flying, and I imagine so were the wives of the astronauts. As for Valentina Tereshkova, her performance was poorly rated by Korolev and I suspect that the word was passed on to NASA. Unfortunately, in those days attitudes toward women were very regressive, perhaps given that the post-WWII world was oriented toward reconstruction particularly involving procreation, as seen in the Baby Boom, which in the US was at its height circa 1960, leaving jobs outside the home for men (women were chased out of employment to make way for returning servicemen). Feminism did not become widely felt until 1970. Anyway, this was a wonderful TED-format talk, a colourful interpretation of history but very apropos.

  • @ahmedkilany2399
    @ahmedkilany2399 7 років тому +4

    it is amazing talk ... i am tedxer from egypt . .
    keep going

  • @aldossnow3703
    @aldossnow3703 2 роки тому

    8:57 too much infighting with women

  • @wrightmf
    @wrightmf 5 років тому +1

    interesting comment at first "these are the first women who qualified for spaceflight in 1962 but never got to fly because it was 1962."
    And all that work Cobb did but had to observed Tereshkova be the first woman to fly into space.

  • @robh.6940
    @robh.6940 6 років тому

    Amy is great! But too much socialist justice here. She complains that Jerrie Cobb doesn't get "leave" to go test for astronaut training? Um, did any of the men get "leave" for this? No....

  • @MidnightHabit
    @MidnightHabit 6 років тому +2

    Amy's the best.

  • @michaeltuz608
    @michaeltuz608 7 років тому +3

    Always a joy to hear Any talk about NASA history.

  • @peterbunnell2373
    @peterbunnell2373 7 років тому +1

    An interesting topic, well researched and delivered with clarity and passion. Thanks!

  • @shadowpod13
    @shadowpod13 7 років тому +5

    OMG. Sexist much? Plus Jackie Cockrine (spelling?) shooting it all in the foot. I mean who needs foes when you have an ally like that. She did a good job working on the WASP program but, WOW, shooting yourself in the foot like that... Also poor Cobb. Going through all that, working so hard and fighting for it just to get shafted like that. They could definitely make a movie about this.

    • @Ranillon
      @Ranillon 7 років тому

      Actually, it wasn't really sexism; it was the then current astronaut corps trying to keep out ANYONE who might complete for spots on space shots. For example, when NASA wanted to bring in (male) scientists to fly in Apollo the astronaut corps reacted the same way, often coming up with excuses that were just as dubious in their own way. The only reason why Harrison Schmitt - a geologist - flew on Apollo 17 (the last Apollo mission) was because the powers-that-be forced it through - but this was only at the last minute when it was clear it was then or never. Since this question about women came a good deal earlier it was easier for those at the time (who wanted to get into space or had friends who did) to just kick that particular can down-the-road to help guarantee their own shorter term success.

    • @shadowpod13
      @shadowpod13 7 років тому

      Didn't know that. But yea, I can see competition to get into space being a contributor. The pilot boys club.

  • @JStarStar00
    @JStarStar00 6 років тому

    There was never any public groundswell or sentiment within NASA to launch women to space, until the USSR launched Tereshkova in early 1963.
    It became obvious that Tereshkova did little on her Vostok flight than go along for the ride. NASA felt there was no significant benefit to launching women and it would have only distracted from the Apollo program.

  • @MissDaisyTheRacoon
    @MissDaisyTheRacoon 7 років тому

    Though she's a proud Canadian, because she has a love for space travel and a great respect for NASA, she says "WE" when she referred to President Kennedy when she said, "WE have a young President in President Kennedy who set OUR goal for the moon." I think that's awesome, and shows her true love and knowledge for space. Go watch her amazing channel, and if not for the knowledge, for how beautiful this girl is. Vintage Space.

    • @BlackEpyon
      @BlackEpyon 6 років тому +2

      I'm also Canadian, and I also use "we" in this context when talking about anything space related. To me, the space race wasn't just about the contest of superior ideology as both systems had/have fundamental flaws (but we must work with what we have). It would become a human endevour. HUMANS got into space, and HUMANS got to the moon.

  • @rocketdude1979
    @rocketdude1979 6 років тому

    They never qualified because they didn't meet the qualifications! The qualifications were being engineering degrees/test pilot school graduates, and hours of jet pilots. Plus their was the idea of already having a pool of medical data to draw a pool of candidates from.
    As for the "Mercury 13" "program" there was never was an officially Sanctioned program/project by NASA , just Lovelace's pet project!
    I understand that NASA and the USA should have launched a woman BUT there were only so many seats.
    If some of the programs had unfolded as origionally "planned" then maybe there would have been enough seats. An example of this was origionally there was going to be a suborbital flight for each Mercury 7 Astronaut followed by an Orbital flight. Also there was a debate about whether to use the Redstone on each flight or the Jupiter IRBM on some other suborbital hops. Instead of a potential 14 manned Mercury flights we got 6 manned flights (2 suborbital hops and 4 orbital flights).
    As far as I know there was only ever 12 Gemini flights planned (2 unmanned, 10 manned) but there may have been more when it was first envisioned as "Mercury Mark 2." We all know there were many unrealized Apollo flights either developmental, or under Apollo Applications.
    I had a commie lover History Professor who loved the USSR and made a big deal about Valentina Tereshkova in 1963 vs 1983 Sally Ryde to which I pointed out that even today in the USSR's and Russia's cosmonaut corps women have a greatly diminished role when compared to the US Astronaut Corps. I pointed out how Ryde was the 3rd woman in space that the USSR launched the second to Salyut 7 to beat Ryde and the cosmonaut was a Soviet Air Force General's daughter, who again flew to beat Kathy Sullivan's scheduled EVA. The professor was unimpressed that I knew this once these "firsts" were met the "General's daughter never flew again" and it proved that in the USA despite the fact that The Mercury 13 didn't get to fly and the USSR beat us by some 20 years thier failure to launch other women as well as have a number of them in their cadre of cosmonauts like the USA has had since 1978 proves to me that the USSR launches were stunts and America is b
    etter and NASA uses women better!

  • @cinquecento1985
    @cinquecento1985 6 років тому

    Great talk. Love it. But these pants... i dont know ...

  • @BruceFeingold
    @BruceFeingold 5 років тому +1

    RIP Jerrie Cobb

  • @joelbates6499
    @joelbates6499 5 років тому

    Amy - I'm a fan! Why have I just found this after 2 years? Please reprise your presentation on your channel! I'd love to see it the way you would have preferred (presentation + slides without the glitches).

  • @charlesgauthier3343
    @charlesgauthier3343 6 років тому

    Fabulous !
    I sent your link to my two daugthers (23 and 26 years old)
    I hope they're inspired.
    And I loved to view your "Vintage Space". I learned very much.
    Tourlou !

  • @SullivansProjects
    @SullivansProjects 7 років тому

    I had not seen this, Amy. Great work as always. I am looking forward to your upcoming book on the #Mercury13 when I catch you next I'll make sure I ask you to sign it. Keep up the great work.

  • @craigfield6428
    @craigfield6428 6 років тому

    NASA should let you go Amy 👍

  • @chukmil9824
    @chukmil9824 6 років тому

    Amy I have followed your video for some time ...and I thought I was a space geek . I have followed the space program for about twice as long as you have been alive. I love your passion ...I share that with you. Please keep doing what your doing

  • @n2339l
    @n2339l 7 років тому

    Great video Amy! I'm always interested in stories of the unsung heroes of American history. And so many were women. Keep up the research and provide more videos for us. Vintage Space is the best!

  • @davidgillaspie4265
    @davidgillaspie4265 7 років тому

    very Educational & Quite Informative. Thank You Amy!!!

  • @edsmith2562
    @edsmith2562 7 років тому

    Great Job Amy. I so enjoy your enthusiasm for our countries, and the worlds, early space efforts. Thank you.

  • @karlmahlmann
    @karlmahlmann 6 років тому

    Beautiful lecture. I remember when the 7 were chosen. - and I remember my parents and everyone being frightened that the Soviets had created an "artificial moon" . - a very interesting time in history.

  • @SidNightWalker
    @SidNightWalker 7 років тому +4

    So beautiful and informative, yes indeed.

  • @johnblotnick644
    @johnblotnick644 7 років тому

    Great job Amy! Hope you get more of these under your belt , recorded and posted. I look forward to seeing them.

  • @sausage5849
    @sausage5849 7 років тому +2

    Amy, great talk! Just one slight observation, personally I think that you could do a little better if you just slowed it down a tiny bit.
    Then again, it may be just me whos' a slow listener :)

  • @dustintaber
    @dustintaber 6 років тому

    This the most low budget production for Ted X ever

  • @nancyelliot8411
    @nancyelliot8411 5 років тому

    A real snake oil sales person...

  • @CharlieTechie
    @CharlieTechie 7 років тому +2

    Watch your UA-cam channel all the time, then I saw this Ted Talk. Enjoyed it very much and yes I did know about the Mercury 13 and believe NASA and the USA lost out big time by not including women in those early days of the Space Race.

  • @pizzanewsnetwork1755
    @pizzanewsnetwork1755 7 років тому

    I love your videos. You always tell the details that nobody else ever seems to talk about.

  • @faithful2b1
    @faithful2b1 7 років тому

    the audience is so bad Amy deserves better :) :)

  • @david.ricardo
    @david.ricardo 6 років тому

    the audio is broken ;(

  • @splashdown50
    @splashdown50 7 років тому

    When's the movie coming out?

  • @michellowies
    @michellowies 5 років тому

    Bravo

  • @michellowies
    @michellowies 5 років тому

    Brago