Thank you. It seems like most other reviewers just hook up a couple of appliances and read the spec sheet. I appreciate you showing the actual wave forms.
I am coming to this 2 weeks late, so maybe the comment has already been made. That receptacle into which the fat plug goes is called the "12VDC receptacle." Cars haven't had "cigarette lighter ports" in decades. Also, as one who lives in a Toyota Prius full time, that limitation you mentioned is, indeed, a limitation on the receptacle, not the power inverter. It might seem like a small thing, but it irritates me that a community so invested in technology at a pretty high level still refers to quite old, outdated equipment that doesn't even exist anymore. I hope that helps. I am just dipping my toes into this field and I have no plans to get them as 'wet' into the engineering side as your videos, but I do appreciate the information in many cases. I also like your approach to video creation.
I got the 300W version, it’s unfortunately noisy when used with the cigarette lighter, so I modified it for use with an SLA battery, and it’s pretty quiet now, but I wouldn’t trust it with my radio gear
Here's a doc that will help figure that out, check page 3: knowledge-center.solaredge.com/sites/kc/files/determining-the-circuit-breaker-size-for-three-phase-inverters.pdf
IIRC, cedaroakfarm, you divide the Watt-rating of the 12v inverter in question by the voltage (12, of course!) and get the rating of the appropriate fuse/circuit-breaker you need on the power wire from the battery to the inverter, using the formula W = V x A. So for this Bestek 500W 12v inverter, 500W/12v = 41.66A. Rounding-downward (as they don't make 41.66A fuses!) you would go with a 40A fuse/breaker. However, the inverter's efficiency-rating -- since TMK none are 100% efficient -- may be a factor to consider and if so, it MIGHT (?) mean you need a slightly lower fuse rating. So if this 500W inverter is only 90% efficient, then in reality it only can be expected to produce 450W continuously...so if you use THAT rating (450W) the math would be 450W/12v = 37.5A. Rounding-down (again, as there's no 37.5A fuse/breaker made, TMK) a 35A fuse/breaker would be what to use. But not being an expert in DC electronics I don't know if you use the rating stated on the inverter or it's real rating efficiency-wise to calculate the fuse it needs. ...so someone correct me if I'm wrong. -- BR
yes. It will provide upto 150 watts through cigarette lighter. This is cigarette lighter limitation as set by vehicle manufacturer. If you try to draw more than that you run the risk of fire or blowing fuses or melting wires. There is reason there is a label on cigarette lighter plug. If you want to draw more than 150 watts connect converter directly to battery with the provided connector set.
Tops on the fuses pop off when gently pried from the slot. No need to remove screws, at least not on my inverter. Some outlet receptacles are purposely installed with the ground prong up so as if something thin and conductive falls on it it does not make contact across the hot and neutral blades and short out the system. Safety stuff.
That’s hard to answer, how many volts does the laptop take? Are you wanting to connect the laptop to the battery or inverter? How long do you want to power it for?
@@TheSmokinApe my laptop take 100-240v I will buy an inverter that convert AC 12v to DC 110V I want to connect the laptop to the inverter, and the inverter will be connected to the battery to get power from it It's okay for the battery to work for a very few hours, but I don't want it to get damaged after a few months Thank you for caring 🌹🌹
I'm not sure what you mean, like a flooded lead battery? You want at least a deep cycle battery and not a starter battery. I'd stay away from lead, they are heavy and you can only use about 1/2 the rated capacity.
almost nobody need pure sine inverter. they are only needed if you use electric brushed motors. everything people normally uses has switching power supply inside with the first thing on the board being a bridge.
That's definitely not true. I can't charge either of my laptops, and one of my cameras. They send surges of power into things like vacuums and can prematurely blow the motor.
@@veganpotterthevegan lol, i am literally an electrical engineer. i just say not to plug any motor in there. also you shouldn't have any problems with laptop charger nor cameras. i use my Bestek inverter everyday to charge mine. i do inspections in the field and i need to upload the pictures to the cloud. i have that inverter in my work truck and use it for everything. i even charge my tool batteries with it.
@Francois_Dupont well, tell my power supply that you're an engineer and maybe it'll listen and charge my laptops? *I have a Bestek inverter too but it's a pure sine wave because the inverter my car has isn't and won't charge my laptops. Lol
500w!! Those DC leads look as though they will only take 5A. Those Cigarette lighter fittings, often have a spring and fuse inline and they heat up significantly
Thank you. It seems like most other reviewers just hook up a couple of appliances and read the spec sheet. I appreciate you showing the actual wave forms.
Glad you liked it, thanks for watching 👍
Outstanding video! Very informative. Will be picking up a couple of these.
Thanks for watching Craig 👍
I am coming to this 2 weeks late, so maybe the comment has already been made. That receptacle into which the fat plug goes is called the "12VDC receptacle." Cars haven't had "cigarette lighter ports" in decades. Also, as one who lives in a Toyota Prius full time, that limitation you mentioned is, indeed, a limitation on the receptacle, not the power inverter. It might seem like a small thing, but it irritates me that a community so invested in technology at a pretty high level still refers to quite old, outdated equipment that doesn't even exist anymore. I hope that helps.
I am just dipping my toes into this field and I have no plans to get them as 'wet' into the engineering side as your videos, but I do appreciate the information in many cases. I also like your approach to video creation.
Thanks for the feedback James.
I have the Bestek pure sine 500w. It works well.
Yeah, there is a reason everyone has them 👍
I need to get a couple inverters, thanks Ape!
Thanks for checking it out Chuck 👍
Voltworks inverter is waiting for you
@@voltworksofficial Did you want to send me one to review for you?
Dang, I knew you were holding back on the goods 👍 that is going to be a perfect inverter for your solar.
Lol, we’ll see. BTW we totally forgot to cover Skinwalker Ranch 😳
@@TheSmokinApe,I will do a live stream for it if you will be on it.!👽
@@hamradiowithkevin totally
I got the 300W version, it’s unfortunately noisy when used with the cigarette lighter, so I modified it for use with an SLA battery, and it’s pretty quiet now, but I wouldn’t trust it with my radio gear
Yeah, I was and am concerned about radio gear. This got pretty noisy when I fired up the blow dryer! Lol, but being serious I can see it as an issue.
Thanks brother, I will definitely be ordering one now.
Good luck with it Gary 👍
good video, the wife had a good chuckle out of the "I don't know what these do" 😀
Lol, thanks for watching Thump 👍
Excellent video! Keep showing the test figures.
Thanks Rob, glad you liked it 👍
Very informative!
Glad you liked it!
They also make a pure sine wave version for 20 bucks more now.
I saw that, might have to check it out. Thanks for watching Davey 👍
Shnit, I was hoping for smoke.
LOL!
My 300w says "300w Pure Sine Wave Power Inverter' right next to Bestek on the top face... Seems to be a decent little inverter. Runs a TV just fine.
Hey Gary, they must sell a ton of these because it seems like everyone has them. Thanks for watching 👍
What size circuit breaker would you use between the battery and the inverter? I'm using this for LED lights on a UTV /side by side.
Here's a doc that will help figure that out, check page 3: knowledge-center.solaredge.com/sites/kc/files/determining-the-circuit-breaker-size-for-three-phase-inverters.pdf
IIRC, cedaroakfarm, you divide the Watt-rating of the 12v inverter in question by the voltage (12, of course!) and get the rating of the appropriate fuse/circuit-breaker you need on the power wire from the battery to the inverter, using the formula W = V x A. So for this Bestek 500W 12v inverter, 500W/12v = 41.66A. Rounding-downward (as they don't make 41.66A fuses!) you would go with a 40A fuse/breaker.
However, the inverter's efficiency-rating -- since TMK none are 100% efficient -- may be a factor to consider and if so, it MIGHT (?) mean you need a slightly lower fuse rating. So if this 500W inverter is only 90% efficient, then in reality it only can be expected to produce 450W continuously...so if you use THAT rating (450W) the math would be 450W/12v = 37.5A. Rounding-down (again, as there's no 37.5A fuse/breaker made, TMK) a 35A fuse/breaker would be what to use. But not being an expert in DC electronics I don't know if you use the rating stated on the inverter or it's real rating efficiency-wise to calculate the fuse it needs.
...so someone correct me if I'm wrong.
-- BR
So can it charge a ebike battery thats 48v 10A 500w
Does this inverter work also by just using the cigarette lighter plug in?
I wouldn’t do that, there’s not enough power in those sockets 👍
yes. It will provide upto 150 watts through cigarette lighter. This is cigarette lighter limitation as set by vehicle manufacturer. If you try to draw more than that you run the risk of fire or blowing fuses or melting wires. There is reason there is a label on cigarette lighter plug. If you want to draw more than 150 watts connect converter directly to battery with the provided connector set.
Tops on the fuses pop off when gently pried from the slot. No need to remove screws, at least not on my inverter. Some outlet receptacles are purposely installed with the ground prong up so as if something thin and conductive falls on it it does not make contact across the hot and neutral blades and short out the system. Safety stuff.
Thanks for the info 👍
Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching Adam 👍
What is the appropriate battery size+type that I should buy for my gaming laptop that comes with a 230W adapter
That’s hard to answer, how many volts does the laptop take? Are you wanting to connect the laptop to the battery or inverter? How long do you want to power it for?
@@TheSmokinApe
my laptop take 100-240v I will buy an inverter that convert AC 12v to DC 110V
I want to connect the laptop to the inverter, and the inverter will be connected to the battery to get power from it
It's okay for the battery to work for a very few hours, but I don't want it to get damaged after a few months
Thank you for caring 🌹🌹
A 50Ah lithium will give you about 600wh should be enough for 2 hours
@@TheSmokinApe What if it's a liquid battery
I'm not sure what you mean, like a flooded lead battery? You want at least a deep cycle battery and not a starter battery. I'd stay away from lead, they are heavy and you can only use about 1/2 the rated capacity.
What ia the brand and model of your multimeter/multitester
Aneng AN-8008 there is a link in the description 👍
Upside down AC outlets? Are you trying to start a #holywar?
Nope, but they are clearly up not down. Plain as day…
出力波形は正弦波ですか？
The model shown at 12:57 is pure sine wave, for ~$65.00. The model tested is modified sine wave (NOT pure sine wave) for ~$45.00. Same manufacturer.
@@johnbauman4005 ありがとう。
almost nobody need pure sine inverter. they are only needed if you use electric brushed motors. everything people normally uses has switching power supply inside with the first thing on the board being a bridge.
That's definitely not true. I can't charge either of my laptops, and one of my cameras. They send surges of power into things like vacuums and can prematurely blow the motor.
@@veganpotterthevegan lol, i am literally an electrical engineer. i just say not to plug any motor in there. also you shouldn't have any problems with laptop charger nor cameras. i use my Bestek inverter everyday to charge mine. i do inspections in the field and i need to upload the pictures to the cloud. i have that inverter in my work truck and use it for everything. i even charge my tool batteries with it.
@Francois_Dupont well, tell my power supply that you're an engineer and maybe it'll listen and charge my laptops?
*I have a Bestek inverter too but it's a pure sine wave because the inverter my car has isn't and won't charge my laptops. Lol
So, you do now it's a curling iron ... :p
Lol 😂
Bestek does not have a clean sine wave under load weak filters
Thanks man
500w!! Those DC leads look as though they will only take 5A. Those Cigarette lighter fittings, often have a spring and fuse inline and they heat up significantly
Thanks for watching Kevin 👍