A gentleman i had the pleasure of meeting today, showed me a couple of the cars he had and then showed me this footage. He was the driver of number 38 that crashed at timeline 11.48. He told me the story about doing 1 more lap cause he couldnt stop, then his wheel busted evidently crashing the car. He shared many stories of his life with me. What a pleasure.
Drove in that race with Stan Pomroy in car#21C Cooper S, finished 4th outright and 2nd in class, beat two out of three factory cars. All on Olympic GT G800 radials!! Great times, the only time I've bought a new car, couldn't afford to keep it for next years race, when Cooper S won.
Wow, thanks for letting us know and thanks for taking the time to comment, great to see you beat the factory team, something we as Gricey fans relate too, took Grice years to do it at Bathurst, first in 1986 then again in 1990 as a factory driver, now that was weird...:-)
Hi Lindsay, Bob Middleton, lived next door to Brian Dixon & the twins. used to see you driving that old Citroen and my big sister Robyn always called you Sherry Little. Never knew why ?? Cheers
Loved this old footage. I've got a brother who runs one of Kevin Bartlett's old Starions from the 80s. He's run the car for yrs in NZ and still going strong.
What a year 1965 I was at that race I went to the race in his new 1964 XM Falcon he Bought in Aug of 1964 and I came home and bought a new 1965 Cortina 240 Beautiful little car those were the days lived in Guildford NSW
Thanks for your post Laurie, yeah, they were a great little car those Cortina's. I am a bit younger than you, but they were always one of my favourite cars...
1965 was only the _third_ Bathurst 500, although it was the _sixth,_ and last, 500 miler under the Armstrong banner. The first three Armstrong 500 races were held at Phillip Island, Victoria.
Mate, couldn't agree more. Those were the classic days of racing. Not this bloody circus they call Supercars. From 2022 onwards it'll have to be called the American Touring Car Championships. Mustangs vs Camaros.
@@roywinchel3620 Mate love the masters just can't stand watching cars that most Aussies can't afford and from car companies that threw Australia under the bus.
This year was the first time in 45 years that I've missed the race on TV, why? ......Cool suits, ice baths, physio's, masseuse's and cars that are all the same let alone have the same drive trains and spec's. I agree with kingobee'sme comment, that V8 supercars wrecked a great race. The adage was win on Sunday and sell on Monday.
I have tried myself to keep up the tradition but after an hour of bullshit safety cars and having information thrown at me (info for wood ducks) I gotta walk away. After watching every one of these old videos then I start again on my Bill Tuckey Bathurst saga's. Which tell the whole story, today ain't no story to tell.
Don’t forget the commentary that stays a frenetic breathless high pitched monotone from beginning to end. Scaife and Crompton in particular. Who wudda thought I’d miss Mike Raymond (although to be fair, frenetic fits him as well).
@@johnd8892 I was using google chrome on my computer and up the of them speed options it has custom speed, maybe try using chrome if you aren’t already? Hope it works!
Amazing. The total lack of safety features both in the cars and around the track. Those were the days of real touring car racing. Not this V8 circus of today. Bring back the multi-make series.
It's amazing how much the track has developed since then. Of course, in those days the cars were stock standard production models, I understand some were even driven to the track... Today's cars have zero in common with the production cars they supposedly represent. It's also interesting how they would have long pit stops to do major repairs. Today if something major can't be repaired in about a minute or less there is almost no chance of winning the race.
Reuburn mentioned many times. He was my next door neighbor when i was growing up. As a kid i would look at his trophies saying, “i wonder what that is about.”
Brakes holding well & adjusted so he reverses the car 14.30 . My god I remember doing that with drum braked cars. Unbelievable those cars were doing 100mph.
Thats how the self adjustors worked, you went backwards and hauled on the handbrake. A little ratchet device would wind up the slack. With disc brakes theres no need to worry about such things now.
Great to see this. At 2:32 are they leather straps holding in the extra tank of the Cortina GT500 race special? I think the unexpected reliability of the Coronas at 20:27 may have been a real milestone for Australian attitudes to Toyota.
The film looks to have been sped up in this back then. Trying to make them look faster than they were? Any technical types that could confirm this by comparison with some measurable sectional time?
They stayed with trucks on the track under racing conditions into the seventies. Just good luck that I do not think there were crashes and injuries from trucks.
Was there a class for the best smelling and classiest interior , I doth wonder . If there twas , then the Triumph T2000 and the Humber Vogue stood a chance of taking the spoils.
I have heard that Glenn light heartedly makes jokes about this to his dad and the old days. Racing on the limit is always the same. The limit of adhesion is still the limit.
Armstrong used to be a hi fi company based at the top of Camden road near Holloway road and when they stopped manufacturing they moved just off lee bridge road and started doing repairing work i had an Armstrong 625 tuner amp once sorry an off topic comment but it brings memories back as they where very helpful people at Armstrong's
polygamous1 Sozou not really correct, Armstrong were the manufacturers of automotive shock absorbers, nothing to do with sound reinforcement, I was there at the race, the advertising was obvious.
The Renault R8 that went tits up and lost a wheel looked spectacular. The ol girl held up well the boxy shaped thing. Those cars only had 3 stud wheels
Ahh those were the days, just rock up in your cortina, go in and slap a number and letter on ya car, black out ya headlights and put a couple stripes on ya car. Ready to race!
Although a Cortina race special limited run Cortina GT 500 with the secret weapon of the big extra fuel tank as at 2:32. Big fuel tank so less time lost in the pits. They were also supposed to have a special ported and polished cylinder head for more power, but in reality Harry Firth only got around to doing this extra work for the race teams and then only a few of the rest of them before it all became too hard in the time available. But the organisers did not know this. A few other mods in the standard Cortina GT 500 limited run to qualify for the race. This annoyed the race organisers so much with this race special that they changed the rules the next year, which prevented the GT 500 Cortina running in 1966. A Cortina GT 500 model now worth a fortune, but not quite Falcon GT HO levels.
Much more exciting and allot more dangerous! Just look at the Vauxhall Viva roof colllapse! Funny they never sold well here in Australia! No roll cages!
Great race, The Geoghegan brothers drove in the race wearing 2 piece suits, white shirt collar and tie? I don’t believe it’. Why drive in the race wearing a two piece suit?
They had personal sponsorship from a Menswear Company and wearing suits was part of the deal. It was the only way because advertising couldn't be on the cars. Brooke Brothers may have been their name but I'm not certain on that.
Radial tyres were standard and used on the Cortina GT 500 shown post race. See 20:03 for the Olympic GT Radial spare identified. The GT 500 and I think the winning Cortina GT cars from 1963 and 64 had front disc brakes too as did the Mini Cooper cars. Drum brakes just in the less expensive car classes. I think early on most teams were fitting the available radial tyres that were sold then. Although Harry Firth was involved with a protest with the superior non standard Pirelli radials fitted to one Cortina, but still allowed in the rules,
@@johnd8892 Sports Car World that year did a road test of the winning GT500. It barely topped 100 on the flat. It had the extra fuel tank, Lotus gear box ratios with the long first gear. I've still got the mag.
Must have been such fun watching family cars duelling it out rather than the unrelatable high performance ones today.
Miss the authenticity of past. Lost its meaning. Excellent video 👍👏💯
A gentleman i had the pleasure of meeting today, showed me a couple of the cars he had and then showed me this footage. He was the driver of number 38 that crashed at timeline 11.48. He told me the story about doing 1 more lap cause he couldnt stop, then his wheel busted evidently crashing the car. He shared many stories of his life with me. What a pleasure.
Good one 👍👏
Drove in that race with Stan Pomroy in car#21C Cooper S, finished 4th outright and 2nd in class, beat two out of three factory cars. All on Olympic GT G800 radials!! Great times, the only time I've bought a new car, couldn't afford to keep it for next years race, when Cooper S won.
Wow, thanks for letting us know and thanks for taking the time to comment, great to see you beat the factory team, something we as Gricey fans relate too, took Grice years to do it at Bathurst, first in 1986 then again in 1990 as a factory driver, now that was weird...:-)
Hi Lindsay, Bob Middleton, lived next door to Brian Dixon & the twins. used to see you driving that old Citroen and my big sister Robyn always called you Sherry Little. Never knew why ?? Cheers
Remember the Michelin X? Hopeless in the wet but lasted and lasted and lasted? Sigh. And look at the track without the supercar armco.
Loved this old footage. I've got a brother who runs one of Kevin Bartlett's old Starions from the 80s. He's run the car for yrs in NZ and still going strong.
Priceless Dock the real racers thanks a lot for this great vidio❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
This is far more enjoyable to watch compared to the controlled boring crap today.
What a year 1965 I was at that race I went to the race in his new 1964 XM Falcon he Bought in Aug of 1964 and I came home and bought a new 1965 Cortina 240 Beautiful little car those were the days lived in Guildford NSW
Thanks for your post Laurie, yeah, they were a great little car those Cortina's. I am a bit younger than you, but they were always one of my favourite cars...
GUILFORD THESE DAYS YOU NEED BULLET PROOF GLASS AND A 2ND LANGUAGE
1966 race
1965 was only the _third_ Bathurst 500, although it was the _sixth,_ and last, 500 miler under the Armstrong banner. The first three Armstrong 500 races were held at Phillip Island, Victoria.
driving home after you win with a little scuff on the drivers door! pure gold
V8 supercars wrecked a great race and failed to protect an aging car industry, the race should go back to this sort of format.
Mate, couldn't agree more. Those were the classic days of racing. Not this bloody circus they call Supercars. From 2022 onwards it'll have to be called the American Touring Car Championships. Mustangs vs Camaros.
You check out the Bathurst 6 hour cancelled this year but was run in 2018 and 2019 and Easter in 2021
YES BUT DONT LET ELECTRIC OR HYBRID VEHICLE RACE
Yeah but the V8 Masters covers the greatest history...
@@roywinchel3620 Mate love the masters just can't stand watching cars that most Aussies can't afford and from car companies that threw Australia under the bus.
This year was the first time in 45 years that I've missed the race on TV, why? ......Cool suits, ice baths, physio's, masseuse's and cars that are all the same let alone have the same drive trains and spec's. I agree with kingobee'sme comment, that V8 supercars wrecked a great race. The adage was win on Sunday and sell on Monday.
I have tried myself to keep up the tradition but after an hour of bullshit safety cars and having information thrown at me (info for wood ducks) I gotta walk away. After watching every one of these old videos then I start again on my Bill Tuckey Bathurst saga's. Which tell the whole story, today ain't no story to tell.
Don’t forget the commentary that stays a frenetic breathless high pitched monotone from beginning to end. Scaife and Crompton in particular. Who wudda thought I’d miss Mike Raymond (although to be fair, frenetic fits him as well).
feels like a million years ago the whole world has changed
You must be catholic and thicker than shit.
It was a million years ago ,,, now theres riots in Melbourne ,, for what ?
Oh memories of how wheels used to be balanced. Wow. 👀
This would be good to watch except for the fact that the film has been sped up to make it look more interesting.
Street legal number plates, bench seats and farm fences. Different times...
For anyone still watching this, if you do into the settings, set the playback speed to a custom speed of 0.9, the video is perfect!
I thought it was sped up.
Pity that only 0.75 is the next step down available to me on my computer, tablet and phone.
@@johnd8892 I was using google chrome on my computer and up the of them speed options it has custom speed, maybe try using chrome if you aren’t already? Hope it works!
Imagine doing this now..30 cars in limp mode due to the multiple computers getting a headache from the heat.
huh? they do a 600+ mile race here every year...
@@slipangle3027 Where's "here"?
@@wizzard5442 ...bathurst? duh?
@@slipangle3027 Ok. Then I dont understand your reply to Nick?
But you dont have to explain if you cant be bothered.
@@wizzard5442 because they do a 600+ mile race on the same track nowadays and the cars don't go into "limp mode"??
Amazing. The total lack of safety features both in the cars and around the track. Those were the days of real touring car racing. Not this V8 circus of today. Bring back the multi-make series.
And the multi class races as well.
It's amazing how much the track has developed since then. Of course, in those days the cars were stock standard production models, I understand some were even driven to the track... Today's cars have zero in common with the production cars they supposedly represent. It's also interesting how they would have long pit stops to do major repairs. Today if something major can't be repaired in about a minute or less there is almost no chance of winning the race.
Costumes are classic
The commentary is brilliant
Reuburn mentioned many times. He was my next door neighbor when i was growing up. As a kid i would look at his trophies saying, “i wonder what that is about.”
Brilliant stuff!! Shame the broadcasters of the day saw fit to speed a lot of footage up.
I thought that too
So that's it! I thought they were cornering far faster than I remember from the TV coverage I watched in 65.
Brakes holding well & adjusted so he reverses the car 14.30 . My god I remember doing that with drum braked cars. Unbelievable those cars were doing 100mph.
Thats how the self adjustors worked, you went backwards and hauled on the handbrake. A little ratchet device would wind up the slack. With disc brakes theres no need to worry about such things now.
Fantastic footage. Not seen much of Studebakers racing in the UK. Looking forward to making some more footage in the pre 66 touring car races
Great the tow truck rocks up and the race keeps going. :)
Great to see this. At 2:32 are they leather straps holding in the extra tank of the Cortina GT500 race special? I think the unexpected reliability of the Coronas at 20:27 may have been a real milestone for Australian attitudes to Toyota.
R.I.P the british motor industry
Great video. Thanks
No roll cage's watch as the viva go's arss over head and flattens the roof they were the good old days .
Maybe pick up some track markers and slow the video down so the speed is a little less Hollywood.
The film looks to have been sped up in this back then. Trying to make them look faster than they were?
Any technical types that could confirm this by comparison with some measurable sectional time?
classic footage thanks
Scary how the Viva's roof crumpled like a sardine can.12:30. 13:25.
Took quite a few years before the cars in the race had a rollbar in the car let alone a roll cage. What were they thinking?
Absolutely gold
So, which of the motor racing drivers in this 1965 Bathurst The Great Race are sadly no longer with us?
Wonderful documentary. Who made it? Crazy that the race wasn’t stopped even as the tow truck rescues the Mini!
They stayed with trucks on the track under racing conditions into the seventies. Just good luck that I do not think there were crashes and injuries from trucks.
Midge Bosworth is one of the most obscure co-drivers to win Bathurst. Did he win any other races in his relatively short career?
It's hard to find much about Midge, will try to find out and let you know..
+Super100MPH Midge Bosworth worked in the spare parts department at McGrath Holden in Liverpool,New South Wales. He moved to Queensland.
i was there watching from shell tower
Was there a class for the best smelling and classiest interior , I doth wonder . If there twas , then the Triumph T2000 and the Humber Vogue stood a chance of taking the spoils.
Bathurst have come a long way since 1965!
I have heard that Glenn light heartedly makes jokes about this to his dad and the old days.
Racing on the limit is always the same.
The limit of adhesion is still the limit.
Armstrong used to be a hi fi company based at the top of Camden road near Holloway road and when they stopped manufacturing they moved just off lee bridge road and started doing repairing work i had an Armstrong 625 tuner amp once sorry an off topic comment but it brings memories back as they where very helpful people at Armstrong's
polygamous1 Sozou not really correct, Armstrong were the manufacturers of automotive shock absorbers, nothing to do with sound reinforcement, I was there at the race, the advertising was obvious.
The Renault R8 that went tits up and lost a wheel looked spectacular. The ol girl held up well the boxy shaped thing. Those cars only had 3 stud wheels
Ahh those were the days, just rock up in your cortina, go in and slap a number and letter on ya car, black out ya headlights and put a couple stripes on ya car. Ready to race!
Although a Cortina race special limited run Cortina GT 500 with the secret weapon of the big extra fuel tank as at 2:32. Big fuel tank so less time lost in the pits.
They were also supposed to have a special ported and polished cylinder head for more power, but in reality Harry Firth only got around to doing this extra work for the race teams and then only a few of the rest of them before it all became too hard in the time available. But the organisers did not know this.
A few other mods in the standard Cortina GT 500 limited run to qualify for the race.
This annoyed the race organisers so much with this race special that they changed the rules the next year, which prevented the GT 500 Cortina running in 1966.
A Cortina GT 500 model now worth a fortune, but not quite Falcon GT HO levels.
@@johnd8892 facts👍🏻
If we could find a participants list !
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1965_Armstrong_500
Much more exciting and allot more dangerous! Just look at the Vauxhall Viva roof colllapse! Funny they never sold well here in Australia! No roll cages!
3 minute laps, but this was more exciting than modern racing. Didn't the minis have a big win the following year?
Yes 1966, The only year the Mini Cooper S, or any Mini, won outright , but made up for it by taking the first nine places.
02:33 Long range Cortina
The year I was born scary dude
Unreal
5:05 Minis and a Hr ? Up the dirt
Was he just pushing his car by himself? 9:00
When men were men. Brass balls to drive 100 mph down Conrod, in drum braked cars on tires you wouldn't put on a bicycle today
Good comment💪👍👏
42 OUT 0F 53 CARS FINISHED THE RACE
Great vids of the big race, but ‘fast motion’ in sections ruins the genuine credability. No need for that crap.
Toyota Corona 100 MPH, Stock ? no way!...
I believe it with con rod 's downhill assistance
Even with conrod's downhill, they'd have to be revving close to 6500 to do 100 MPH.
Its a bloody big hill though.
After the Viva crash u can see why roll cages were developed. That bomb was not strong in the body
6:20
Trees and telegraph poles
Great race, The Geoghegan brothers drove in the race wearing 2 piece suits, white shirt collar and tie? I don’t believe it’. Why drive in the race wearing a two piece suit?
Just their joke leading up to the race.
They had personal sponsorship from a Menswear Company and wearing suits was part of the deal. It was the only way because advertising couldn't be on the cars. Brooke Brothers may have been their name but I'm not certain on that.
" when men were men and tyres were " crap!" Laugh 😃 😀 😄 😁 🤣
Bias plys drum barkes good times.
Radial tyres were standard and used on the Cortina GT 500 shown post race. See 20:03 for the Olympic GT Radial spare identified.
The GT 500 and I think the winning Cortina GT cars from 1963 and 64 had front disc brakes too as did the Mini Cooper cars.
Drum brakes just in the less expensive car classes.
I think early on most teams were fitting the available radial tyres that were sold then. Although Harry Firth was involved with a protest with the superior non standard Pirelli radials fitted to one Cortina, but still allowed in the rules,
@@johnd8892 Sports Car World that year did a road test of the winning GT500. It barely topped 100 on the flat. It had the extra fuel tank, Lotus gear box ratios with the long first gear. I've still got the mag.