Chillax. *China doesn't even have a 5th gen fighter, forget the 6th gen variable engines.* China's top most engine is a 4th gen WS-15 engine used in their latest prototype.
@@Qwdtdgg2662katora lia pher raha ha surrender dunia bar ma jet engine ka lia ,no one gives him bhik .the late tejo lal samosa surgbash ka mojid .zindabad
this attitude of indian armed forces officers of downplaying china gets me. this has been the attitude since decades and now that china is 100 folds ahead still they come up with same kind of statements
We kind of over estimate china , they are good but if you saying like they are 2 generations ahead of India then I am not going to buy it .Recently they showed photos of 6th gen fighter .Here we are still debating what and how will 6th gen fighter will have in its arsenal or what will be its specs and here people are shouting they have developed their 6th gen fighter .So never underestimate your enemy and neither over estimate your enemy .
@@Ace78928 even am thinking the same thing it is true that china is ahead in military hardware. Even tho they showcased 6th gen capability its operational capacity is still debatable maybe by showcasing 6th gen they just wanted to create a sense of fear among others. They are advanced but they are trying to win war by instilling fear in the heart of enemies without firing a single bullet by showcasing they are more dangerous even tho they r not.
China is successful and have better technological advancement in jet engine but If you go and read articles and see some history of engine development than you will understand that jet engine technology is very very complex and it requires money, time and patience same with India and India required more time than china because there is no shortcut in it we will be far away and can't compete with countries having available technologies in developing jet engine but trying and spending money on jet engine eventually makes us different and more capable than other countries who don't have this capabilities not trying to spend huge some of money on this kind of things is huge setbacks . So don't lose hope
@@Ace78928you Indians even can’t build 4th gen fighter without buying aviation systems, navigation systems and engines. The only thing made in India is body. Always brag and boast, that is why you never catch up.
Gaurav the complexities shared by AM Kapoor is well understood. Can u ask him or other SME y despite such old long standing relationship with Russia and last 10 year of rapo Modi built with Putin, we cud not arrange GE404 equiv/superior engine for us. Russia US UK France are only 4 guys and Russia is the best bet and 2nd is France.
exactly at least by 5 to 10 years ahead. its a great threat and pak is also on path. With Bangladesh now in chaos not sure it might turn to a triple threat.why is it so difficult to get a fifth gen as stop gap , so we have a breather.
Dude. China has a lot of money for R@D. If Indian government do not provide free bees , nobody is going to vote for the current government. So you and me also responsible for this...😢
@@kaustav197 if you listen carefully and have some basic knowledge of Indian air Force you will know that kapoor is beating around the bush as brought out by @alphasubscription6741
In the context of aircraft engines, WS-10 and WS-15 refer to Chinese-developed jet engines used in military aircraft. Here’s an overview of their status: WS-10 (Taihang Engine) • Status: Operational and in production. • Purpose: The WS-10 is a turbofan engine primarily used to power fighter jets such as the J-10, J-11, J-16, and J-20 stealth fighter (early variants). • Performance: It has seen continuous improvement over the years to enhance thrust and reliability. The WS-10C is one of its advanced variants, capable of producing up to 13-14 tons of thrust. • Current Use: Widely deployed and considered the backbone of China’s fighter jet fleet. WS-15 (Emei Engine) • Status: Under development/testing. • Purpose: Designed to power advanced stealth aircraft, including later versions of the J-20 stealth fighter. • Performance: Expected to produce 18-19.5 tons of thrust with a high thrust-to-weight ratio, making it capable of supercruise (sustained supersonic flight without afterburners). • Current Use: Not yet fully operational. Reports suggest the WS-15 is nearing production readiness but still undergoing refinement to meet reliability and performance standards. Would you like more details on either engine?
Another basic difference between rocket engine and jet engines are Most of the rocket engines barring some application in space shuttle are mostly one time use engines and there use for few hours whereas jet engines in aircrafts are used multiple times and it's usage is in thousands of hours.
And as far as today's date only 2 nations have been able to develop 5th generation engines 1) usa a) f-119 for f-22 aircrafts b) f-135 for f-35 aircrafts 2) Russia a) idzeliya -30 or al--51 for su-57 which is still in testing stage not yet been operationalized in actual iinduction. United Kingdom(European consortium) Or France are yet to start thier 5th generation project Or actually planning to start 6th generation project for which both them are seeking partnership with India to develop engines for such next generation aircrafts.
@@sigma-sigma1 don't stay in an illusion state and underestimate enemy's strength. Chinese fifth generation fighter jets might not be as advanced as American because of the avionics and electronic warfare system but still those are fighter jets. India is not America so those things are a major threat for us. Even after 2035, AMCA mark 1 can hardly achieve America's f35 avionics and electronic warfare level.
@@RockyMondal-nf5ol no one is underestimating china, since the guest in this podcast had stated that only 4 nations(USA, Russia, united kingdom and France) have developed 5th generation engines it was in reference to that as on date only 2 nations have been able to develop it and only one nation USA has been able to opernationalize it, and in future or near future china too may be able to do it no one can have doubts on that matter.
The whole point of 5th gen is engine to have air intake and air flow design in such a way that it's heat signature got reduce and have long duration of supercruse capability not just sealthy design with inside weapon bay . Radar signature and its rcs can be reduce using radar absorbing composite material and have a design of single engine jets ,which india is doing. Ya all said and done we must move fast but not do things panic like buying white elephant f35 or under develop su57. We must speed up our mk 2 and amca program. @@RockyMondal-nf5ol
@sigma-sigma1 First of all France hasn't developed 5th generation engine yet. Their most powerful engine is M88 thrust -75 kn approx, which is use in rafale. Russia hasn't yet installed their 5th generation engine in SU 57. It's still in a trial phase. India selected the GE 414 engine for AMCA. This engine is usually used in 4th generation fighter jets like F 15 , FA 18 , gripen, KF 21. Now don't you tell me ge 414 also a 5th generation engine...lol
@@rathnakarkp376 he is on a systematic campaign specially against the HAL manufacturing capacities. These delays of tejas are only due GE engines and Israel components integration, yet he runs a campaign to malign HAL
@@parthasarathichakravorty4414 is US offering it even to us? Do you know one fact, US doesn't even allow prat and Whitney to any of our engine programs to compete since those engines are used for f35
The Chengdu J-20 fighter jet is powered by the Shenyang WS-10 and WS-15 engines. The WS-15 is intended to replace the WS-10 and become the J-20's primary engine. WS-10 engine An afterburner turbofan engine manufactured by Shenyang Liming Aircraft Engine Company Enabled supercruise and high maneuverability WS-15 engine A more powerful engine than the WS-10 Intended to improve the J-20's range, maneuverability, and upgrade potential Rivaling the US-made F-22's Pratt & Whitney F119 engines First seen integrated onto the J-20 in single configuration for a test flight in January 2022 First flown in twin configuration in June 2023
Thank you very much to the 2 officers for their service to the nation. Pleasant surprise that the Air Marshall has not blamed DRDO & HAL for not developing an aeroengine.
This video must be made mandatory part of the syllabus of Aeronautical Engineering Departments in Engineering colleges across India. It is almost like an educational video. Tremendous work - Gaurav Sir. Jai HInd.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
One of the most insightful and enlightening videos which unravels the complexity of manufacturing a jet engine ...Air Marshall Kapoor has ably revealed the sophistication and the wherewithal required for jet engine manufacture
Extremely thankful to Major for asking those questions which I as a layman and a defence enthusiast have in my mind. You have really gone into the rudiments when you asked why two kaveri engines cannot be used to power the tejas. I also have a question which is almost similar to your's. Dry kaveri (without the hot section) has successfully achieved 45kn ,why two dry kaverys with total power of 90 kn cannot be be used in tejas, without the hot section it will more stealth . GE 404 with hot compressor is 90 kn. Can you please put forth this question to an expert in any of your future podcast. Thank u once again. Jai hind, Vandematram, Bharatmata ki jai.
Russia is gaining a lot of Electronic warfare and jamming experience from the Ukraine war. Collaborating with them in FICV project/ armoured vehicle project and making upgrades to the SU57 may prove valuable. Keep in mind America never faced any opposition with modern equipments in direct war, while Russia is facing european and american cutting edge systems and dismantling them. I believe SU 57 with a top of the line Sensor system, EW system, new engine and better weapon package can be as deadly as an F22. Russian fighters are as deadly as American counterparts in physical aspect, America has them beat in sensors and weapon package. Buying SU 57s with flat nozzle, making refinements, integrating Astra Mk3 is the best stop gap solution, I believe
India should sign a defence pact with Russia and send soldiers to Ukraine to gain modern warfare experience. Also because of modern anti craft batteries, jets have become less important. Try designing FPV and fiber optic drones and plan and mini war in Bangladesh to get a real life war experience.
@ that goes against every Indian policy dude, India can’t attack someone until attacked first. That’s the policy, right from independence. Also India has no enmity with Ukraine.
Had Neru and the congress went capitalist, India would have been second to the US in technology. Keep the people dumb and poor and you rule for life. 😊
I'm sorry to say that Air Marshal Kapoor doesnt give the full facts. Dry Kaveri engine can produce 51 kN thrust and 73 kN with afterburner (wet or hot section). So he says it doesnt have a hot section - this is nonsense. The Ghatak UCAV will fly with de rated dry Kaveri of 49 kN this year. Please note that SNECMA M88 which powers the Rafale is 75 kN per engine. However Kaveri is currently 350kg - 400kg heavier than the M88 and that is a big problem. Currently Godrej aerospace is manufacturing the dry Kaveri and Brahmos aerospace is manufacturing the wet section and efforts are underway to integrate them by ADA and test and uprate the Kaveri to 90 kN. This might take 3-10 years. Please see Saurav Jha's excellent youtube channel Delhi Defence Review which talks about this. ua-cam.com/video/_pWc1Hy-wTg/v-deo.html
The hot section has been subcontracted to Bhramos Aerospace (aka Russia) for a reason. Russia has expertise with high temperature 🌡️alloys needed for the hot section which India needs help with. Perhaps what's been developed for the hot section domestically isn't measuring up or is limiting the engine's performance, among other things.
I fully agree with you, kapoor seems to be either ignorant himself of technical capabilities or not stating correct facts intentionally. It is for @GauravArya to assess and find out and avoid calling such ill informed retired officers
A fantastic podcast. Salute to Honorable Air Marshal, who explained the intricate problems of manufacturing high quality Turbo Jet/Fan engine with so simplicity that it is like a bird flying at the sky with its natural ability. Every point touched for common peoples understanding, nothing left. Thanks to Maj. Arya also.
What a fascinating expose by Air Marshal Kapoor. One has learnt so much from this elaborate discussion in easily understandable language. So much of the questions which were in our minds regarding the AMCA has been answered. The most important advice he gave was to go for 2 squadrons of Fifth generation aircraft which suits us, be it US or Russian make Russian make, to meet our immediate strategic needs and also to help us with the echo system designing of the AMCA
Appreciate a more informed discussion with Air Marshal Kapoor unlike the previous one which was all over the place. However, I have certain points which have mentioned in my mail to Gaurav Arya which were not discussed . There are many gaping holes in Indian Air force approach to jump from single Engine Tejas to twin engine AMCA 1) How does IAF intend to leapfrog to AMCA without testing a indigenously developed twin engine 4th gen Aircraft like TEDBF / Orca - there are simply too many things to test. China with all its imperfect 5th gen aircrafts and imperfect engines is at least concurrently developing the platforms and testing it systematically. The approach taken by IAF is simply too idealistic and naively optimistic that India can suddenly develop AMCA and make it work without going through the process of testing a 4 or 4.5 generation twin engine aircraft. 2) Air Marshal says that twin engine aircrafts have their problems - if that is the case how is it that Indian Air force assumes that these problems will suddenly be sorted out in AMCA. 3) The Chinese have a much better program management - they are allowing parallel development of critical capabilities unlike Indian Air Force who is creating interdependencies and bottlenecks in the development and testing process. I request Major Gaurav Arya to ask esteemed Indian Air Force to explain their approach of leapfrogging without testing intermediate stages. Where have they seen such an approach work anywhere in the world? I can say with confidence that the day Indian Air Force takes a pragmatic approach to Fighter Aircraft development like the Chinese they will be able to make much faster progress. The bottleneck is at the top always in a bottle. We should assess our capabilities correctly and make use of development and manufacturing capabilities rather than trying to imagine something will suddenly change with privatization. I request everyone concerned to apply Theory of constraints and allow modular development of platforms- please do not entangle yourselves in knots and self-created bottlenecks over and above the ones created by nature of the complex program
kapoor when he says that twin engine have their own problems is highly incorrect information and he despite claiming vast experience lacks basic knowledge. The best and most potent fighter aircrafts of modern era include Rafale, SU-30, MiG 29, F-22 rapter, SU-57 FGFA, Eurofighter Typhoon and many more including chinese J-15, J-16, J-35 FGFA and now their recent Sixth gen aircraft are all twin engine aircraft. So while the world is moving towards twin engine aircrafts they can't be fools in investing billions of dollars in developing all higher generation fighter aircrfats as twin engines. it is on the similar lines that we are developing our AMCA FGFA and TEDBF (Twin Engine Deck basedFighter) for Navy.
Currently, China has imposed strict controls on rare earth elements that enhance the high-temperature performance of alloys, which has severely limited the production of the U.S. F-35. It is challenging for the U.S. to allocate additional rare earth resources for the manufacture of other engines.
Its amusing that Maj Gaurav show concerns about PLAAF or J-20s stationed in Tiber. oh bhai forget about China, they are a super power, stepping into 6th gen fighters, having their own space stations, top dog in AI and what not. You should be concerned about your own league that is Pakistani airforce which is somewhat equivalent to IAF. PLAAF should only be compared with USAF.
Dude even pak air force is superior to iaf.. didnt u see programmes on j35 & kaan fighter.. didnt u see people being scared as hell and mentioning that pak air force will be 10,15 years ahead. You saw these people doing propaganda about jf17 for some years, now compare it with tejas. See iaf chief recent interview and his report on tejas. Atleast pak air force developed 150 aircrafts till block 3 and now there are news about a new variant. By the way indian economy is in tatters these days see reports on that also. Trump is also kicking out indians to make things worse. Development in infrastructure isnt satisfying as well. Poverty is on the rise. Modi ka dhanka bhaj raha ha bhai.
I have alot of indian friends also. The most concerning thing must be economy these days as majority of the population is finding it hard to earn for 2 meals a day. Middle class will soon be below poverty line soon and 2% rich will enjoy all the luxuries of life. Reliance, amazon etc have taken over small retail businesses and jobs within the last few years which only makes unemployment worse and benefits the rich.
@@subhashmondal1132 India should only be compared with Pakistan. The self-proclaimed superpower India is not the same as the real superpower countries like the USA and China.🤣
@@wasiqmehmood3637The two meal a day thing is not true. I don't know who is saying that. Indian economy is in bad shape thanks to tax mafia of nirmala Harami. But people r not left without food. Secondly Tejas fighter jet is not the issue but America is constantly delaying engines for Tejas. Which is why there is no production. Thirdly india is looking to produce many things in house either licence manufacturing or complete indian design and technology which requires funding which government again is delaying although not in all case for example indeginious missile engine is done. Engine for ghatak is done. But engine for fighter jet is not. Finally pakistan is getting the aircrafts from China and maybe in future turkey. But that's not the case with India as india wants to be independent in aerospace sector in future.
Chinese jet engine was invented by Pakistani scientist Qamar Cheema 😂😂😂😂 PAF Lahori Chooran is the dunyas lumber one 7th generation aircraft...😂😂😂😂 JF 17 aircrafts green paint was jointly made by laal topi and his cousin sister/ wife .. Cousin fkers ..giving us lecture..fkoff😂
Shah mehmood Qureshi: all Pakistani are living in fools paradise. Please wake up might is always right. In unsc p5 are not powerful. It is India, Israel, japan etc are powerful.
I am delighted to view the entire program and be a part of it. Highly Commendable Major Sir, I appreciate you bringing us such a podcast and enlightening all of us what Bharat our Nation has and can do in the future with all the capabilities combined together with the kind of eco system we are talking about here, with of course the bright minds scientists, engineers and all others associated with it who do the research and development!! My best wishes to you for making more such programs in future with esteemed guests! Jai Hind Sir, Bharat Mata ki Jai. Regards capt.shyam.
This is one of the biased and propaganda video i have seen. Now tell me is GE414 a fifth generation engine?!...we selected this engine for our AMCA and many countries use this engine in 4th generation fighter jet . USA- F 15, F/A 18. South Korean - KF 21 . Sweden - gripen fighter jet.
i was looking for some clear and good informative video about KAVERI engine and AMCA, thank you so much to Gaurav sir and Air marshal RGK kapoor sir, this show is very special for me, like others i too have so many question about KAVERI engine and AMCA, but now this podcast cleared my all doubts🙏
What was the dump question here? he is an interviewer and has to ask questions understood by common. Air Marshal would also not be well versed if it comes to nitty-gritty of Infantry.
wow this was one of your best podcasts,..I wish you had asked him about Su57 and its fifth generation capibilities and whether India should get this or not
I will repeat it - "Technology delayed is technology denied."
Chillax. *China doesn't even have a 5th gen fighter, forget the 6th gen variable engines.* China's top most engine is a 4th gen WS-15 engine used in their latest prototype.
'Patience' is a valuable quality of India, please continue to wait.
@@Cellpeg I agree with you in some degree. But, we have to understand that enemy will not wait for our 5th or 6th gen fighter.
😂😂😂😂
Dream on none of the western countries will ever give India Jet technology.
I bet 1000 USD on my statement.
@@Qwdtdgg2662katora lia pher raha ha surrender dunia bar ma jet engine ka lia ,no one gives him bhik .the late tejo lal samosa surgbash ka mojid .zindabad
this attitude of indian armed forces officers of downplaying china gets me. this has been the attitude since decades and now that china is 100 folds ahead still they come up with same kind of statements
We kind of over estimate china , they are good but if you saying like they are 2 generations ahead of India then I am not going to buy it .Recently they showed photos of 6th gen fighter .Here we are still debating what and how will 6th gen fighter will have in its arsenal or what will be its specs and here people are shouting they have developed their 6th gen fighter .So never underestimate your enemy and neither over estimate your enemy .
@@Ace78928 even am thinking the same thing it is true that china is ahead in military hardware. Even tho they showcased 6th gen capability its operational capacity is still debatable maybe by showcasing 6th gen they just wanted to create a sense of fear among others. They are advanced but they are trying to win war by instilling fear in the heart of enemies without firing a single bullet by showcasing they are more dangerous even tho they r not.
@@ishujaiswal6099 correct bro
China is successful and have better technological advancement in jet engine but If you go and read articles and see some history of engine development than you will understand that jet engine technology is very very complex and it requires money, time and patience same with India and India required more time than china because there is no shortcut in it we will be far away and can't compete with countries having available technologies in developing jet engine but trying and spending money on jet engine eventually makes us different and more capable than other countries who don't have this capabilities not trying to spend huge some of money on this kind of things is huge setbacks . So don't lose hope
@@Ace78928you Indians even can’t build 4th gen fighter without buying aviation systems, navigation systems and engines. The only thing made in India is body. Always brag and boast, that is why you never catch up.
China J20 now have newer WS 15 engine. A significant upgrade to its previous engine in terms of performance. The guy needs to update himself.
I'm not knowing that Ws 15 is coming from China. I need to be learning first.
Chinese junk technology 😂😂😂
Yet it can't match Russian engines of similar category for now.
You go and update him rather than blabbering in comment section here
Gaurav the complexities shared by AM Kapoor is well understood. Can u ask him or other SME y despite such old long standing relationship with Russia and last 10 year of rapo Modi built with Putin, we cud not arrange GE404 equiv/superior engine for us. Russia US UK France are only 4 guys and Russia is the best bet and 2nd is France.
I don’t understand why do we keep downplaying china……they are miles ahead of us but we keep making excuses and downplay a great threat
Absolutely !!! 👍👍👍
exactly at least by 5 to 10 years ahead. its a great threat and pak is also on path. With Bangladesh now in chaos not sure it might turn to a triple threat.why is it so difficult to get a fifth gen as stop gap , so we have a breather.
110% right brother
Dude. China has a lot of money for R@D. If Indian government do not provide free bees , nobody is going to vote for the current government. So you and me also responsible for this...😢
There is no great threat to India when it knows its geopolitical place, India is not a superpower country.
Jet technology, semiconductor technology, lithography technology is very difficult technology.
@@alokkumarsahu9318 for those that dont have it.
DIfficult with less investments our scientist provide so much with so less budget all the blame is on babus and netas
@@gajahmada9539 Correct bro.
The guest is very diplomatic in his answers
Extremely diplomatic!!! He is extremely careful in not annoying anyone !!! 😂😂😂
That's how most ex faujis talk and it is an absolute waste of time 😅
He has been beating around the bush. Basically it will be Abhinandan 2.0 loading
Agree with you
Kaunse part main aapko aisa lagaa..
@@kaustav197 if you listen carefully and have some basic knowledge of Indian air Force you will know that kapoor is beating around the bush as brought out by @alphasubscription6741
The most sensible interview I have so far viewed with correct assessment and explanations . Jai Hind.
In the context of aircraft engines, WS-10 and WS-15 refer to Chinese-developed jet engines used in military aircraft. Here’s an overview of their status:
WS-10 (Taihang Engine)
• Status: Operational and in production.
• Purpose: The WS-10 is a turbofan engine primarily used to power fighter jets such as the J-10, J-11, J-16, and J-20 stealth fighter (early variants).
• Performance: It has seen continuous improvement over the years to enhance thrust and reliability. The WS-10C is one of its advanced variants, capable of producing up to 13-14 tons of thrust.
• Current Use: Widely deployed and considered the backbone of China’s fighter jet fleet.
WS-15 (Emei Engine)
• Status: Under development/testing.
• Purpose: Designed to power advanced stealth aircraft, including later versions of the J-20 stealth fighter.
• Performance: Expected to produce 18-19.5 tons of thrust with a high thrust-to-weight ratio, making it capable of supercruise (sustained supersonic flight without afterburners).
• Current Use: Not yet fully operational. Reports suggest the WS-15 is nearing production readiness but still undergoing refinement to meet reliability and performance standards.
Would you like more details on either engine?
Blueprints please.
Another basic difference between rocket engine and jet engines are
Most of the rocket engines barring some application in space shuttle are mostly one time use engines and there use for few hours whereas jet engines in aircrafts are used multiple times and it's usage is in thousands of hours.
And as far as today's date only 2 nations have been able to develop 5th generation engines
1) usa
a) f-119 for f-22 aircrafts
b) f-135 for f-35 aircrafts
2) Russia
a) idzeliya -30 or al--51 for su-57 which is still in testing stage not yet been operationalized in actual iinduction.
United Kingdom(European consortium) Or France are yet to start thier 5th generation project Or actually planning to start 6th generation project for which both them are seeking partnership with India to develop engines for such next generation aircrafts.
@@sigma-sigma1 don't stay in an illusion state and underestimate enemy's strength.
Chinese fifth generation fighter jets might not be as advanced as American because of the avionics and electronic warfare system but still those are fighter jets. India is not America so those things are a major threat for us.
Even after 2035, AMCA mark 1 can hardly achieve America's f35 avionics and electronic warfare level.
@@RockyMondal-nf5ol no one is underestimating china, since the guest in this podcast had stated that only 4 nations(USA, Russia, united kingdom and France) have developed 5th generation engines it was in reference to that as on date only 2 nations have been able to develop it and only one nation USA has been able to opernationalize it, and in future or near future china too may be able to do it no one can have doubts on that matter.
The whole point of 5th gen is engine to have air intake and air flow design in such a way that it's heat signature got reduce and have long duration of supercruse capability not just sealthy design with inside weapon bay .
Radar signature and its rcs can be reduce using radar absorbing composite material and have a design of single engine jets ,which india is doing.
Ya all said and done we must move fast but not do things panic like buying white elephant f35 or under develop su57.
We must speed up our mk 2 and amca program. @@RockyMondal-nf5ol
@sigma-sigma1 First of all France hasn't developed 5th generation engine yet. Their most powerful engine is M88 thrust -75 kn approx, which is use in rafale.
Russia hasn't yet installed their 5th generation engine in SU 57. It's still in a trial phase.
India selected the GE 414 engine for AMCA. This engine is usually used in 4th generation fighter jets like F 15 , FA 18 , gripen, KF 21.
Now don't you tell me ge 414 also a 5th generation engine...lol
Summary - Gaurav Arya doing lobby for f35 for the 101th time in 3 months
😂
With whom? Government a podcast deke thodi influence hotha hain.
Even if he is, find it reasonable.
F 35 remains one of the top platforms.
Koi shak ?
@@rathnakarkp376 he is on a systematic campaign specially against the HAL manufacturing capacities. These delays of tejas are only due GE engines and Israel components integration, yet he runs a campaign to malign HAL
@@parthasarathichakravorty4414 is US offering it even to us?
Do you know one fact, US doesn't even allow prat and Whitney to any of our engine programs to compete since those engines are used for f35
The Chengdu J-20 fighter jet is powered by the Shenyang WS-10 and WS-15 engines. The WS-15 is intended to replace the WS-10 and become the J-20's primary engine.
WS-10 engine
An afterburner turbofan engine manufactured by Shenyang Liming Aircraft Engine Company
Enabled supercruise and high maneuverability
WS-15 engine
A more powerful engine than the WS-10
Intended to improve the J-20's range, maneuverability, and upgrade potential
Rivaling the US-made F-22's Pratt & Whitney F119 engines
First seen integrated onto the J-20 in single configuration for a test flight in January 2022
First flown in twin configuration in June 2023
Begger sotted.
Our people keep bragging that J20 is not a 5th gen Engine...
We should keep our focus on our work our engines are not even 3rd gen
It's not bragging they says that china is not that capable which he claims of by bragging all over the social media
excuse me？😂世界上根本没有所谓航空发动机划代，印度网民们到底在讨论一些什么？
excuse me？😂世界上根本没有所谓航空发动机划代，印度网民们到底在讨论一些什么？
Awesome discussion
Thank you very much to the 2 officers for their service to the nation.
Pleasant surprise that the Air Marshall has not blamed DRDO & HAL for not developing an aeroengine.
Love the weapons discussion based podcast…good going GA…
This video must be made mandatory part of the syllabus of Aeronautical Engineering Departments in Engineering colleges across India. It is almost like an educational video. Tremendous work - Gaurav Sir. Jai HInd.🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Nonsense suggestion, the aeronautical engineering students will get misguided by this trash.
@@savinderpalsingh2061lagta hay tu kisi bureaucratic baap ki emotionally stupid paidaish hay jiski criticism huwi hay 😂
The officer himself needs to update his knowledge 😂
Brilliant Content Awesome Insights on Tejas MK 2 & AMCA fighter & on MRFA 👌🏼🤘🏻💯🇮🇳
Most informative video
One of the most insightful and enlightening videos which unravels the complexity of manufacturing a jet engine ...Air Marshall Kapoor has ably revealed the sophistication and the wherewithal required for jet engine manufacture
Superb interview ❤
happy to see such a good detail podcast thanks to air marshal RGK kapoor. I think the whole knowledge have conveyed well.
Absolutely awesome and detailed podcast.
Extremely thankful to Major for asking those questions which I as a layman and a defence enthusiast have in my mind. You have really gone into the rudiments when you asked why two kaveri engines cannot be used to power the tejas. I also have a question which is almost similar to your's. Dry kaveri (without the hot section) has successfully achieved 45kn ,why two dry kaverys with total power of 90 kn cannot be be used in tejas, without the hot section it will more stealth . GE 404 with hot compressor is 90 kn.
Can you please put forth this question to an expert in any of your future podcast. Thank u once again.
Jai hind, Vandematram, Bharatmata ki jai.
Dhuruv helicopter to ura lete pehle 26 janurary ki parade me. 😂😂😂
Pakistani and china only posses Chinese technology 😂😂😂😂
Khatna hua ki m karu??? 😂
Hum toh kapde bhi utarwa chuke pakistani army ki 1971 me 😂😂😂
India is working on it.. what about bhirkaristan??? Even Sui is imported from china😂😂
Sir u stay in Pakistan
Please call him again and again, his way of explanation is excellent
Russia is gaining a lot of Electronic warfare and jamming experience from the Ukraine war. Collaborating with them in FICV project/ armoured vehicle project and making upgrades to the SU57 may prove valuable. Keep in mind America never faced any opposition with modern equipments in direct war, while Russia is facing european and american cutting edge systems and dismantling them.
I believe SU 57 with a top of the line Sensor system, EW system, new engine and better weapon package can be as deadly as an F22. Russian fighters are as deadly as American counterparts in physical aspect, America has them beat in sensors and weapon package.
Buying SU 57s with flat nozzle, making refinements, integrating Astra Mk3 is the best stop gap solution, I believe
India should sign a defence pact with Russia and send soldiers to Ukraine to gain modern warfare experience. Also because of modern anti craft batteries, jets have become less important. Try designing FPV and fiber optic drones and plan and mini war in Bangladesh to get a real life war experience.
@ that goes against every Indian policy dude, India can’t attack someone until attacked first. That’s the policy, right from independence. Also India has no enmity with Ukraine.
Nice
So less likes
People really need to know where you get knowledge
Hats off Gaurav sir
Jai Hind
❤ Great,Only 2 Years Service as Captain in 🇮🇳 Indian Army
Golf ball analogy ❤❤❤❤ solved ❤
Thanku so much gaurav aarya sir because of you ....i have got all answers regarding INDIAS 5TH GEN AIRCRAFT ❤
The late tejo lal samosa surgbash , 10th generation jet fighter zindabad
Thank u 🙏
It will took 60, 70 more years for India to develop the 5th generation fighter jet.
Had Neru and the congress went capitalist, India would have been second to the US in technology.
Keep the people dumb and poor and you rule for life. 😊
I'm sorry to say that Air Marshal Kapoor doesnt give the full facts. Dry Kaveri engine can produce 51 kN thrust and 73 kN with afterburner (wet or hot section). So he says it doesnt have a hot section - this is nonsense. The Ghatak UCAV will fly with de rated dry Kaveri of 49 kN this year. Please note that SNECMA M88 which powers the Rafale is 75 kN per engine. However Kaveri is currently 350kg - 400kg heavier than the M88 and that is a big problem. Currently Godrej aerospace is manufacturing the dry Kaveri and Brahmos aerospace is manufacturing the wet section and efforts are underway to integrate them by ADA and test and uprate the Kaveri to 90 kN. This might take 3-10 years. Please see Saurav Jha's excellent youtube channel Delhi Defence Review which talks about this.
ua-cam.com/video/_pWc1Hy-wTg/v-deo.html
The hot section has been subcontracted to Bhramos Aerospace (aka Russia) for a reason.
Russia has expertise with high temperature 🌡️alloys needed for the hot section which India needs help with.
Perhaps what's been developed for the hot section domestically isn't measuring up or is limiting the engine's performance, among other things.
I fully agree with you, kapoor seems to be either ignorant himself of technical capabilities or not stating correct facts intentionally. It is for @GauravArya to assess and find out and avoid calling such ill informed retired officers
The officer has half knowledge 😂
@@madleon81 Agree completely
Perfectly explained by Air Marshal Kapoor. We just criticise, if Jet Technology was easy all countries would have started production.
As a metallurgist , I totally agree!
A fantastic podcast. Salute to Honorable Air Marshal, who explained the intricate problems of manufacturing high quality Turbo Jet/Fan engine with so simplicity that it is like a bird flying at the sky with its natural ability. Every point touched for common peoples understanding, nothing left. Thanks to Maj. Arya also.
Sui tak ka mothaj china ka ho tum .tumari technology zero .
What a fascinating expose by Air Marshal Kapoor. One has learnt so much from this elaborate discussion in easily understandable language. So much of the questions which were in our minds regarding the AMCA has been answered. The most important advice he gave was to go for 2 squadrons of Fifth generation aircraft which suits us, be it US or Russian make Russian make, to meet our immediate strategic needs and also to help us with the echo system designing of the AMCA
I think Tejas Samosa is fully 5th generation 😂😂😂
Junk blunder 17😂😂
Realistic approach by respectable RGK Kapoor. Kind regards from Pakistan 🇵🇰
Appreciate a more informed discussion with Air Marshal Kapoor unlike the previous one which was all over the place.
However, I have certain points which have mentioned in my mail to Gaurav Arya which were not discussed . There are many gaping holes in Indian Air force approach to jump from single Engine Tejas to twin engine AMCA
1) How does IAF intend to leapfrog to AMCA without testing a indigenously developed twin engine 4th gen Aircraft like TEDBF / Orca - there are simply too many things to test. China with all its imperfect 5th gen aircrafts and imperfect engines is at least concurrently developing the platforms and testing it systematically. The approach taken by IAF is simply too idealistic and naively optimistic that India can suddenly develop AMCA and make it work without going through the process of testing a 4 or 4.5 generation twin engine aircraft.
2) Air Marshal says that twin engine aircrafts have their problems - if that is the case how is it that Indian Air force assumes that these problems will suddenly be sorted out in AMCA.
3) The Chinese have a much better program management - they are allowing parallel development of critical capabilities unlike Indian Air Force who is creating interdependencies and bottlenecks in the development and testing process.
I request Major Gaurav Arya to ask esteemed Indian Air Force to explain their approach of leapfrogging without testing intermediate stages. Where have they seen such an approach work anywhere in the world?
I can say with confidence that the day Indian Air Force takes a pragmatic approach to Fighter Aircraft development like the Chinese they will be able to make much faster progress. The bottleneck is at the top always in a bottle. We should assess our capabilities correctly and make use of development and manufacturing capabilities rather than trying to imagine something will suddenly change with privatization.
I request everyone concerned to apply Theory of constraints and allow modular development of platforms- please do not entangle yourselves in knots and self-created bottlenecks over and above the ones created by nature of the complex program
Absolutely right
kapoor when he says that twin engine have their own problems is highly incorrect information and he despite claiming vast experience lacks basic knowledge. The best and most potent fighter aircrafts of modern era include Rafale, SU-30, MiG 29, F-22 rapter, SU-57 FGFA, Eurofighter Typhoon and many more including chinese J-15, J-16, J-35 FGFA and now their recent Sixth gen aircraft are all twin engine aircraft. So while the world is moving towards twin engine aircrafts they can't be fools in investing billions of dollars in developing all higher generation fighter aircrfats as twin engines. it is on the similar lines that we are developing our AMCA FGFA and TEDBF (Twin Engine Deck basedFighter) for Navy.
Good analysis 🎉🎉🎉
Fantastic podcast. Liked it thoroughly. Learned quite a few things.
Just like Tejas came 2 decades late, AMCA will be Atleast 3 decades late. Considering Tejas was a light fighter and AMCA is supposed to be “stealthy”
brilliantly explained such a complex topic in such a limited timeframe Wow
Salute to Gourav AryaSir
China doesn't have jet engine. 😂😂😂😂
Kaiser Tufail lol😂😂😂😂
Chinese have jet engine 🚂🚂🚂
But no jet engine technology 😂😂😂🎉
@santhugowda7179 I know. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Most awaited discussion and analysis on important issue! Thank you Chanakya Team, Major Gaurav Arya sir and esteemed guest!
G414 need Chinese parts 😂😂😂
Yes titanium is very important for fighter jets
Extremely unlikely !!! 😂😂😂
Precisely correct
Currently, China has imposed strict controls on rare earth elements that enhance the high-temperature performance of alloys, which has severely limited the production of the U.S. F-35. It is challenging for the U.S. to allocate additional rare earth resources for the manufacture of other engines.
Thank you very much ❤🎉
Its amusing that Maj Gaurav show concerns about PLAAF or J-20s stationed in Tiber. oh bhai forget about China, they are a super power, stepping into 6th gen fighters, having their own space stations, top dog in AI and what not. You should be concerned about your own league that is Pakistani airforce which is somewhat equivalent to IAF. PLAAF should only be compared with USAF.
No , it's wrong...PLAAF is not war tested and experience as compared to USA. 😂😂 PLAAF. May be compared with India or Russia Air force.
Dude even pak air force is superior to iaf.. didnt u see programmes on j35 & kaan fighter.. didnt u see people being scared as hell and mentioning that pak air force will be 10,15 years ahead. You saw these people doing propaganda about jf17 for some years, now compare it with tejas. See iaf chief recent interview and his report on tejas. Atleast pak air force developed 150 aircrafts till block 3 and now there are news about a new variant. By the way indian economy is in tatters these days see reports on that also. Trump is also kicking out indians to make things worse. Development in infrastructure isnt satisfying as well. Poverty is on the rise. Modi ka dhanka bhaj raha ha bhai.
I have alot of indian friends also. The most concerning thing must be economy these days as majority of the population is finding it hard to earn for 2 meals a day. Middle class will soon be below poverty line soon and 2% rich will enjoy all the luxuries of life. Reliance, amazon etc have taken over small retail businesses and jobs within the last few years which only makes unemployment worse and benefits the rich.
@@subhashmondal1132 India should only be compared with Pakistan. The self-proclaimed superpower India is not the same as the real superpower countries like the USA and China.🤣
@@wasiqmehmood3637The two meal a day thing is not true. I don't know who is saying that. Indian economy is in bad shape thanks to tax mafia of nirmala Harami. But people r not left without food.
Secondly Tejas fighter jet is not the issue but America is constantly delaying engines for Tejas. Which is why there is no production.
Thirdly india is looking to produce many things in house either licence manufacturing or complete indian design and technology which requires funding which government again is delaying although not in all case for example indeginious missile engine is done. Engine for ghatak is done. But engine for fighter jet is not.
Finally pakistan is getting the aircrafts from China and maybe in future turkey. But that's not the case with India as india wants to be independent in aerospace sector in future.
Peak Pajeet Mindset that China can't do this China can't do that😂 putting own failures under the carpet
Burnol is imported by Pakistani from Dubai . 😂😂😂😂
Aate ki line lag jaa ke
Mujeet ka abbu china
Pakistan be like abbu koh bura mat bolo lol Pakistan mindset
Chinese jet engine was invented by Pakistani scientist Qamar Cheema 😂😂😂😂 PAF Lahori Chooran is the dunyas lumber one 7th generation aircraft...😂😂😂😂
JF 17 aircrafts green paint was jointly made by laal topi and his cousin sister/ wife ..
Cousin fkers ..giving us lecture..fkoff😂
You are the best Mr. Gaurav 👍
Fool paradise😊 with two 🎉
Shah mehmood Qureshi: all Pakistani are living in fools paradise.
Please wake up might is always right.
In unsc p5 are not powerful.
It is India, Israel, japan etc are powerful.
Very Informative Podcast ❤
Firse hutiya banaya desh ki janta ko
Hiding their incompetence
China has 5th gen fighter and we must accept this truth
We are nothing infront of them
😂😂😂😂😂
I am delighted to view the entire program and be a part of it. Highly Commendable Major Sir, I appreciate you bringing us such a podcast and enlightening all of us what Bharat our Nation has and can do in the future with all the capabilities combined together with the kind of eco system we are talking about here, with of course the bright minds scientists, engineers and all others associated with it who do the research and development!! My best wishes to you for making more such programs in future with esteemed guests! Jai Hind Sir, Bharat Mata ki Jai. Regards capt.shyam.
This is one of the biased and propaganda video i have seen.
Now tell me is GE414 a fifth generation engine?!...we selected this engine for our AMCA and many countries use this engine in 4th generation fighter jet .
USA- F 15, F/A 18. South Korean - KF 21 . Sweden - gripen fighter jet.
U need to see the video properly. They themselves discussed already what you said.
GE414 is a 4th generation engine this is what he said, skip kar kar ke viseo dekega tho pata kaise chelega
First see the video then comment
Thank you 🙏
Thank you for the excellent presentation by the Air Marshal.
With such confident military leaders India is in safe hands .
Jai Hind.
One of the best guest on this show.
Detailed, lots of functional inputs
Salute to the Guest to be so knowledgeable and professionally practical approach towards critical technology!!!
One of d best podcast of 2025🎉
love the podcast Gaurav sir .. thanks for getting such esteemed knowledgeable guests on the pod casts... amazing!!!!
I am delighted listening to Sir RGK Kapoor.. learnt a lot and understood the potential of our Air force Mens... Thank you Gaurav ji....
Very well explained!❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉
For the very first time, I am completely satisfied.
After a long time ….. in depth … info…… thanks … Mr Kapoor for enlightening us on this subject … in detail ….. 🫶🙏
Good podcast ❤
Sir it's emence knowledge you have given to us Thank you very much
Wow!!! I LEARNED A LOT TODAY. Thank You.
Very nice to see your analysis thanks a lot 🎉🎉
Superb interview.
Best analysis and knowledge given by Air Marshal kapoor sir🙏
Thank You for your service Gentlemen 🙏🏻💪🏼🚩🇮🇳
Respect 🇮🇳
Gem of a podcast❤
Pls do these informational podcast in hindi also.
I hope nxt time, podcast will be in hindi on airforce
Excellent answerd by the officer. Great podcast❤
Excellent comprehension 🙌
Highly informative! reduce a lot about the ambiguity in the engine design
Thanks for updating us on the Air Force . Jai Hind
Very well described. Now it's clear regarding our AMCA project. Awesome Sir,
JAI HIND
Excellent Interview!
Excellent explanation of reality which every Aam Aadmi should understand
Awesome ❤ podcast
i was looking for some clear and good informative video about KAVERI engine and AMCA, thank you so much to Gaurav sir and Air marshal RGK kapoor sir, this show is very special for me, like others i too have so many question about KAVERI engine and AMCA, but now this podcast cleared my all doubts🙏
Salute to Air Marshal Kapoor for explaining in detail to dumb questions typical of a infantry man
This man AM Kappor is just brilliant. Thank you sir
Infantry man dumb ??? Where do you come from ??? 😂😂😂
Why you are saying him dumb
He is just not informed much
What was the dump question here? he is an interviewer and has to ask questions understood by common. Air Marshal would also not be well versed if it comes to nitty-gritty of Infantry.
Another incredibly informative interview 👍🏻👍🏻‼️
Air Mshl Spoke extremely well. Cristal clear vision. I thank Major Gaurav Arya, to bring across such a knowledge & professional dialogue. Regards
Please read and find for your self that Kapoor gave all incorrect information
I love this podcast
Lot of information and very knowledgeable.
Thank you 🙏
wow this was one of your best podcasts,..I wish you had asked him about Su57 and its fifth generation capibilities and whether India should get this or not
Great Analysis.
I'm a chinese，I like to read the comments of Indian netizens
Awesome information! Incredible ! Thank you Major ji !
Fantastic podcast … ever seen ❤
Excellent
Absolutely brilliant and informative podcast Maj Sahab. Tons of thanks AM Kapoor Sahab 🫡🚩🇮🇳
Very insightful
sir ur doing amazing job. i stutdied geopolitics and defence things from ur videos