Fireproof Document Bags: Do They ACTUALLY Work?
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- Опубліковано 15 бер 2021
- I am working on improving my "In Case of an Emergency" binder and wanted to have it protected from fire. I purchased a few different Fireproof Document Bags, but I wanted to see if they would actually work in a fire, so I decided to test them out and make a video. Hopefully this video will help you with your purchase decision of a fireproof document bag for your important documents and cash.
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So "fire proof" actually just means "this bag can cope with getting a bit warm" lol
Thanks for doing this so we don't have to :-)
Seems like false advertising to claim "fireproof" when actual FIRE utterly destroys them.
They are made in China after all
@@urielmartinez2161 The companies and sellers are American. You'd think they test their products first, no matter where they're made. A lot of high tech and high quality products are made in China, including your phone.
@@thehspace no company cares about how their product works as long as you buy it and it makes a profit. Fires are so rare that the chances of any company ruining their reputation because of people finding out that their bags didn’t survive a house fire is minimal. Besides, this product is for peace of mind, no real practical purpose.
Lawsuit waiting to happen
@@yucol5661 This product isn't for peace of mind. This product is for fools who buy $35 solid gold watches.
Glad to see someone actually testing items instead of just a unboxing and reading what it says online. Sounds like youd be better off with a good safe
I’ve watched a couple where they just showed them. I’m glad this is an actual test.
an* unboxing.
@@fyou2327 **golf clap**
We lost our home in the Camp Fire in paradise ca. In 2018. 17000 homes burnt. Safes are not safe in a uncontrolled fire. Everything inside them burnt and destroyed the guns. It was a big lesson to us. Loved your video. I learned multiple copies of important documents is a must. Remember you can have more then one copy of your birth certificate and social security card or equivalents. Keep them off site.
Thanks for the ideas. Keeping them off site is a good idea. Even some hidden away in the car on a flash drive would be a good idea, as most of us would be getting outta dodge in that car, or on a cloud drive as well. I’m so terribly sorry about your home, neighborhood, and the loss of so much around you. It seems like yesterday when it occurred. I hope you’ve been able to recover from your loss. Paradise was a beautiful town to live in.
So disheartened to hear of the devastation to you and those 17000 families. But grateful you are safe. That is so true about those fire safes, they are limited. Definitely agree with keeping multiple copies of important docs, and in off site locations. Another item to add is a home inventory, including model/serial numbers and pictures when possible. Will be that much less drama to deal with when it comes to insurance.
or in an external shed with a fireproof safe inside of a steel trash can
I never thought of multiples of important documents. Thanks for the tip.
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Don't forget to digitize all of your important documents too, even if you lose original ones, digital copy might be enough for some use cases.
Yes I’ve been preaching this to many in low line’s areas for years to save especially those memories like pictures but many don’t listen
And cloud files are excellent and flash drive etc
And/or pay for an extra hard copy and keep it somewhere safe outside your home, like a safe deposit box.
All fireproof safes have a rating for temperature and time it can withstand. Worth looking into and buying the best one you can afford. These videos are very helpful.
Fireproof: proof against or resistant to fire.
Incombustible: not combustible. Non-flammable. incapable of being burned.
Thanks for the clarification. I've had a complete burn of a detached garage. The items that melted into each other that couldn't even be separated was incredible.
Keep in mind that a lot of important documents are made of or covered with plastic, so even if the fire don't hit it directly, any bag with documents will be a mess inside.
This is great info! Love your channel! I’ve been binge watching your videos and you have inspired me to set up some kind of social media to keep me accountable as I get started on this prepping lifestyle. 🙂
Wow... thank you for the review. I have my batteries in a soft sided "fireproof" organizer. I didn't realize it should be used with a safe. This is awesome information that I can definitely use. Thank you again!
Makes me wonder how fireproof the small documents safes really are
Most firesafes that are sold as "fireproof" are actually "fire resistant" the good quality safes from legit manufacturers will tell you how long their safes are fire resistant for. (I used to work at a bank and we had firesafes for all the important documents). Ideally you want to get something that is fire resistant and water resistant. Not all firesafes are water resistant.
@@KellyS_77 I’m really just hoping TUP will test this for us lol
The safes will burn too. When they do sometimes you can get them open and sometimes you can’t. Paper items inside will usually be ash.
There's a video on the Honeywell 1104 on UA-cam a guy did this. It actually worked very well and everything inside was perfect.
@@KellyS_77 it's funny to see you comment about that with that profile image. Amazing. lol
This is fantastic! I have been thinking about adding these to my setup!
Keep it up. Your the OG Bag organizer dude. You helped all of us in thinking about the best way to organize. Dig it!
thank you so much - my mom wanted these and was going to depend on them - showed her video and saved her lots of money
So glad you tested these items since I have both the bags & safe....now We know they work together. Thanks TUP!
You are very welcome, GingerPrep! Thanks for watching!
Wow thank you so much for this video. I have a "so called" fire proof bag with everything in it. Thinking it would be protected in case of a fire. I can't thank you enough. Getting my safe today.
Excellent point regarding direct flame contact vs. storage inside a container such as a safe.
Thank you for the video. It helped set my expectations and decide on a product to buy.
Thanks so much for making this video !! In the future it would be very helpful to know how long the tests were.
Excellent demonstration!! Building the fire in your firepit was fun to watch!!
When you said oven I immediately wondered if you were going to hear, "Mom's pissed" again :D
Good reminder to gather all important documents and information on account numbers, and store appropriately.
Thx for this. Was looking on Amazon for a fire proof envelope and the reviews weren't telling how they'd actually hold up in a fire. Makes sense to use them in conjunction with a fireproof case.
Needed information. Thank you for sharing and be safe.
How about you put one bag into another bag ?
this
thank you for exposing these crooks
I’d be interested in a video on what to include in an ICE binder if you haven’t already done one?
Nicely done. As you went over in the video, these are meant to be a buffer to help keep some valuables safe rather than a catch-all, all in one solution. Thankfully we can backup documents digitally. I don't keep my vehicle registration in the car given my address is on it but have a photo of it on my phone.
All of that being said, preparing to deal with a fire is far more likely for most homeowners than other tragedies.
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts and information.
Perfect timing. My nephew just talked to me a few days ago about securing his valuable paperwork in a fireproof safe etc. Thanks!!!
You are very welcome!
Excellent. Helpful video. This is what I was looking for before buying from eBay
Thanks buddy! Really appreciate this video and demonstration.
Thanks for the demonstration. Another eye opening video.
I've thought of buying these, but also putting them inside of a gun safe for the added fire protection.
Thank you for testing. Just the video I was looking for.
could you do another test this time using a smaller bag and put it in a bigger bag to see if it make a big difference to have a small one inside a bigger one? (like with the Roloway brand that seem the best one)
That was a fun video, thanks for sharing. Are there any bags out there that can withstand direct flame contact?
Great test as usual, thank you!!!!
This video was SO HELPFUL! THANK YOU!!!!!
Wrap your money about 10 raps in heavy-duty aluminum foil then put it in at one of the fire proof bags and then put it in your safe I have a family member that's a fire chief and that's what he recommends. And he recommends keeping it at the lowest level at the house since flame and heat rises
Loved the video and the insight!!!!
Great review! I have had a fireproof bag in my Amazon cart for awhile. Don't think I will purchase now.
It'd be helpful to know how long and how hot your firepit was burning. And it seems like the oven didn't get hot enough to damage the prop bill even without a bag, so it's not clear what protection the bags added.
VERY helpful info. Thanks!
Awesome! Thanks for demonstration!!
Thank you very much for your testing.
Thank you. This was helpful
Thanks for doing this - it makes a good point about what "fire-proof" should mean. I have come to the conclusion that a "fireproof" safe ought to be buried in the ground under the house where possible. Heat rises and the ground doesn't really burn that much so the safe would be under much less heat stress below ground level.
In the ground is good for fire but keep in mind that it's not for water. And from another video I learned that mold is also a concern.
Thanks so much for your review video! :)
Been wondering how ANY physical container could make a change in internal temperature.
Thanks Clay
good to know info, tks for the vid!!
Great as usual Cliff!
Thank you, very informative.
I keep my fireproof pouch in a meal box (a diversionary book safe) to protect from actual flames. With so many countless brands to chose from, it's hard to tell which ones will ACTUALLY hold up.
Thank so much sir for sharing this content.
Here's the additional problem or question - Even if the bags maintain its integrity, does it keep the heat out of the bags? If the interior of the bag rises to around 425F or higher, that's the temp paper burns and once it starts burning, the temp only gets higher until it consumes all the oxy from the container. An analogy is like a dutch oven - you can put it on the fire and while the oven stays intact, it gets so hot inside it cooks the food.
This was such a fun video 🙌🏾
Thank you. :) You should post reviews of these products on amazon and attach this video.
Thanks for that review.
I want to get fire bags for all my old photo albums. Is seems bags are not complete protection but better then storing them in cardboard boxes. Photos are also scanned and backed up on portable hard drive and CD disks which I put in a Sentry fire safe. Good Idea to make digital copies and store at a second location like a relatives house. Photos can be stored in the cloud, but there is privacy concerns with that. Thanks for the review!
Thank you, this was great to know
That's pretty helpful. Thanks.
Good video.. Would like to see how the bags hold up in a small safe thrown in the fire.
Good review. My 2 cents thoughts - a really fireproof safe will have to be huge and bulky, and therefore not portable. So that's for precious metals and stones, which I don't have LOL. Critical documents, HDDs, DVD (non-volatile 3rd level backup to HDDs), passports - then these have to be portable. Grab and go. So the ICE Binder idea is better then. But if fire breaks out when you're not home to grab & run, then the ICE Binder will need to be inside a bigger safe. And in the basement, since heat rises upwards.
Excellent review thank you
I went through a house fire. The only thing that survived was a metal locked box. But the paper burned on the edges. It was cash. We also had a Craftsman tool box and what ruined the tools was the mat that melted under the tools. Lost everything. For some reason 2 souvenior glasses survive. Other stuff was smoked damaged. Burned to the ground in a heavy 2 inch rain storm. Duplex.
We recovered ok. It was many moons ogo. Red Cross gave my BF used sheets. Because he and roommates were single male no assistance. No Rental insurance
:( glad you and your family are ok.
Whoa, good experimentation!
I picked up a fireproof storage bag from Brimstone Fire Protection. It wasn’t cheap, but they make very bold claims on their website and the product itself seems robust. Would love to see a fire test on one of their bags. I keep mine inside a consumer grade fireproof safe.
That would be fun! Some of their products are VERY expensive. I wonder if they would send me one to try to burn?
Thank you! you saved me a ton of money.
Good job...indeed you saved my money, I was weighing on that. BZ
Thanks for doing the test. I was tempted to buy one of these bags for cash but was not convinced they would actually work 😅
You're welcome! I think they will work if stored in your safe, but not as a standalone measure.
"Stand back, and try not to inhale the toxic fumes."
-- 'Reverend Lovejoy', _The Simpsons_
If only aerogel was cheap and somehow formed into a bag or box. A cheaper alternative might be intumescent paint or fire retardant spray and coating a canvas bag or other container. Would like to see a test of that.
THANKS .. that was helpful 👍
Great test. But to get the higher temps, get 2 simple large pans place bag in one pan, use other pan as lid and place I fire pit outside
Great honest review
This is great. I have one and my cash isn't play money. Thanks for another great video!
Anyone else aware that paper burns at 451 degrees?
Thank you for that!
Nice. Thanks so much!
Interesting video! I bought a fireproof bag and the coating was so bad I had to return it. Thanks for the demos! 👍
Hello, I have created a fireproof bag made with a new coating, I can give it to you for free to try, I hope you can give me some advice on improving my product, I am willing to listen to your professional advice, and we will work together to create a more perfect product！
So, what have we learned here? That paper will burn if exposed to naked flame. That this type of bag is no protection in a real life fire situation. That the bags will protect but are destroyed in the process if cooked in an oven and that your papers will be fine, unprotected, under the same conditions since the $100 bill looks undamaged at the end of being cooked in the oven as seen at 5:36. So the advantage of the bag was what? 😊 Fun video though.
You stopped at Fahrenheit 450 .?.
You were SO close.
LOL!!
Ray Bradbury would be so upset.
Nice Mora! How long did you perform the oven test for? The play money didn't seem any more damaged than the bags.
thank you for your info
Great job.. I was surprised they melted and the money was dust.
How long did you keep them in the oven? All you said was "an extended period of time". How long did you wait between the two times you checked on them?
Great job!! I wondered about these myself!! Glad you didn’t go with real bills!!
Any plan on updating the emergency folder for a vid soon?
Yep! I'll be coming out with the binder video soon.
Would still make a good storage for things that are heat sensitive that we keep in the car eg backup battery, documents etc
Have you found one that actually works? because I'd like to buy one but none seem to work. Thanks.
Thanks so much for making this video. I saw another one where Roloway was the winner too. The hard fire safes by Sentrysafe and Honeywell are so damn heavy, and small inside, and many of them don't even have handles to pick them up. I wish someone could test a small $60-90 USD metal filing cabinet or metal ammo boxes with the flexible fire safes inside. I know metal will eventually burn, but mainly concerned how to protect photos, photo albums and hard drives. Many of these safes promise to protect from 2000 degrees for 30 minutes. Doubtful.
Cliff your crazy good idea.
Thanks for this 👍
Thx. Good test.
Your oven will get up to about 1000 deg. F. if it has a self-cleaning cycle?
YAY! Awesome video, thanks for testing those! I was sooo curious about these. Well, I did something else since I have trust issues in similar products LOL I saved all scans of my important documents on one of those 400GB camera memory cards (now they are trending around 50 USD!!! WHATTA STEAL) - they are tiny, super light, forget bulky and low performing USB flash drives, camera memory cards! :-) Just a thought .... :-)
5:40 WHat the money did not burn neither. What's the bag for then?
Thanks for reviewing these. I’m sticking to my small grab n go safe. So how do you store your emergency cash? I’ve never been one to have much cash on hand at all but have realized how impt it is to have some for shtf.
I've been storing mine in a safe, but now I'm going to put it in one of these bags, in the safe for heat protection. I think these bags should really be listed as "Heatproof".
Paper ignites at around 480F (not Ray Bradbury's 451F) so that would have been a better test.
I heard a comedian once say, and I'm paraphrasing... "I'm single so I never cook, but I do use my oven. I store all my important documents in there in case of a fire." :-D
Thanks for the review. You saved me from wasting money on these fire bags. My Sentry fire safe is UL class 350/177, rated for half hour. These fire bags have no UL or CSA listing, scam in my opinion.