Why Apple Products Use 30 Year Old Software

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  • @woohoo2491
    @woohoo2491 4 роки тому +2100

    "Why cars still use a thousands-of-years-old circular wheel design"

    • @akshaysai1109
      @akshaysai1109 4 роки тому +55

      Circular wheels are the most efficient wheels. If wheels were square, their corners would've always scratched against the ground. And the engine would've had to deliver a lot more power to turn the square wheel on one of it's corners. The ride/ drive would've been very bumpy.

    • @herlingaaland
      @herlingaaland 4 роки тому +108

      @@akshaysai1109 I hope you're being sarcastic cuz my small brain couldn't tell

    • @akshaysai1109
      @akshaysai1109 4 роки тому +12

      @@herlingaaland nope, I'm not being sarcastic.

    • @abhishekj6406
      @abhishekj6406 4 роки тому +31

      Same way people use plate to have food

    • @akshaysai1109
      @akshaysai1109 4 роки тому +23

      @@JeremiahPayne I did, I was just trying to act like Sheldon from tbbt. 😅

  • @Dewibop
    @Dewibop 5 років тому +2102

    I’m confused, he invested $12m and sold the company 16 years later for $429m. Where is the mistake?

    • @blomegoog
      @blomegoog 5 років тому +286

      He was good at flipping, he did the same thing with Pixar.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому +14

      @@blomegoog still poorer than bill gate....

    • @shahan484
      @shahan484 5 років тому +297

      @@campkira what logic is that

    • @kiyoponnn
      @kiyoponnn 5 років тому +353

      @@campkira Still richer than you

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 5 років тому +234

      campkira Bill Gates was motivated by money. Jobs was motivated by great products.

  • @Spyd77
    @Spyd77 Рік тому +212

    If you want a TLDR of this video, it's just that MacOS X is based on NextStep that is based on Unix.
    So you can use exactly the same title changing Apple with Microsoft. Windows 11 is using The NT kernel, an evolution that started with Windows NT 3.1 launched on 1993.

    • @Donyourmom
      @Donyourmom Рік тому +7

      Nerd

    • @Spyd77
      @Spyd77 Рік тому

      @@Donyourmom Thank you!

    • @lorddarthvader6289
      @lorddarthvader6289 Рік тому +2

      Same with Linux.
      Why would you build everything from scratch when it already works.

    • @PhthaloJohnson
      @PhthaloJohnson Рік тому

      @@lorddarthvader6289 What already exists might not be a good foundation. Even the windows kernel went through massive code rewrites, in order to get what we have right now.

    • @Cyril29a
      @Cyril29a Рік тому

      I mean W is one letter away from V, N is one letter away from M and T is one letter away from S. VMS WNT@JimAllen-Persona

  • @djstapler
    @djstapler 5 років тому +2169

    Any $12 million dollar mistake I would make, is buying college textbooks.

    • @Pfyzer
      @Pfyzer 5 років тому +42

      Thats why you pirate😅

    • @waaargh2985
      @waaargh2985 5 років тому +1

      Indeed.

    • @waaargh2985
      @waaargh2985 5 років тому +20

      ABC ABC you must be very dumb as well that you didn’t understand his comment, you definitely need text books.

    • @djstapler
      @djstapler 5 років тому +3

      @Chang Noi at this point there's a high market for used books too. It sucks when the class requires the new edition though

    • @umie66
      @umie66 5 років тому

      He ended up plowing WAY more then 2 million into Next before he sold it for 429, not to mention investments by Ross Perot and Cannon

  • @Ajinkyachavan.
    @Ajinkyachavan. 4 роки тому +639

    So are you telling me even after he left Apple, he built Apple’s greatest thing ever!

    • @a.s.l711
      @a.s.l711 4 роки тому +11

      Yes

    • @dw9932
      @dw9932 4 роки тому +4

      Yes he was the one to make his company big

    • @maheshkumartak3096
      @maheshkumartak3096 4 роки тому +10

      Have you heard about the term "xerox thiefs".

    • @freezingicy9457
      @freezingicy9457 4 роки тому +6

      he was the one to make the company big. but after he passed. apple kinda lost its innovation

    • @Maniacguy2777
      @Maniacguy2777 4 роки тому

      Yes and they are high quality computer hardware comparing with windows computers.

  • @i_am_awesome_j
    @i_am_awesome_j 5 років тому +1017

    Everytime I see pictures and videos of young Steve Jobs I always think he looks like Ashton Kutcher

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 років тому +59

      Why do you think they cast Kutcher for the movie? The casting director had a freebie.

    • @stoichr3324
      @stoichr3324 5 років тому +3

      I AM AWESOME j More like nerdy Ashton kutcher.

    • @i_am_awesome_j
      @i_am_awesome_j 5 років тому +3

      - that’s true

    • @fetz9369
      @fetz9369 5 років тому

      @Carlos Villa??

    • @alilabeebalkoka
      @alilabeebalkoka 5 років тому +5

      That is why Ashton Kutcher should play him in movies and be the Apple official saleman and face of the company.

  • @jaisejacob4516
    @jaisejacob4516 5 років тому +1009

    Steve jobs left Apple? I thought he got kicked out by the Pepsi guy

    • @NafeesMosharrof
      @NafeesMosharrof 5 років тому +160

      Kicked out by the Apple board.

    • @CraigBickerstaff
      @CraigBickerstaff 5 років тому +125

      @@NafeesMosharrof It's a little bit of all of those actually, the Apple board stripped him of all responsibility after Steve's failed coupe on Scully so Steve decided to set up NeXT Step and took a bunch of Apple people with him saying they were all low level. When the Scully found out who he was taking there was another big fight which resulted in Steve stepping down as chairman of the board and selling most of his stock in the company, I think he kept $1 of stock in case he wanted to attend a shareholders meeting.

    • @llothar68
      @llothar68 5 років тому +3

      Urban legend.

    • @Pēm̐cā
      @Pēm̐cā 5 років тому +1

      Yey

    • @llothar68
      @llothar68 5 років тому +21

      @Hideika No. They just stripped him of his voting and decision rights.

  • @princeofsomnia7664
    @princeofsomnia7664 5 років тому +563

    next video: why bethesda still using a 10,000 years old engine

    • @iluvmyswamp7948
      @iluvmyswamp7948 5 років тому +10

      Don't you mean 30000 year old engine?

    • @carbonblack1002
      @carbonblack1002 5 років тому +10

      Or 999999999999years old

    • @Jwellsuhhuh
      @Jwellsuhhuh 4 роки тому +1

      lmaoooo imagine playing doom or quake on macos

    • @ksam2000
      @ksam2000 4 роки тому +1

      that would be a great idea

    • @kastro4460
      @kastro4460 4 роки тому +1

      Todd Howard: "people are still buying it, that's it. Btw, buy Skyrim"

  • @GRAHAMAUS
    @GRAHAMAUS Рік тому +81

    Since Macs use BSD Unix, one might argue that it uses 53-year old software, assuming there are any remnants of the original Unix C code in there. There are also a few remains from the earlier Mac OS toolbox, which dates from the early 80s. New code isn't always better, if it works as well as it can already, don't mess with it.

    • @RGG800
      @RGG800 Рік тому +4

      Hell, it’s a Turing Complete machine, so it’s got 50+ year technology!

    • @Freshbott2
      @Freshbott2 Рік тому

      I believe BSD bits are the most OG bits, and that Darwin is a bit more derived (but that both Darwin and BSD are highly modernised), but I could be wrong. I think something like 300 system calls came in the 90s and 2000s vs the 50 or so before that.

  • @xboxcontroller4811
    @xboxcontroller4811 5 років тому +334

    3:13
    Apple: “Who wants a stylus?”
    Samsung: Yes

    • @iveco555
      @iveco555 5 років тому +24

      Samsung note does have a good stylus... have to sy it

    • @CorpusReformatorum
      @CorpusReformatorum 4 роки тому +27

      And now iPad has a stylus.

    • @diegocejudo9704
      @diegocejudo9704 4 роки тому +37

      I think he was talking about those phones and PDA's with displays that could only work with a stylus.

    • @ransom182
      @ransom182 4 роки тому +13

      Corpus Reformatorum the Apple Pencil is not the primary input method.

    • @CorpusReformatorum
      @CorpusReformatorum 4 роки тому

      ransom182 so what? They simply have it

  • @paianis
    @paianis 4 роки тому +57

    Everyone's using decades-old software. :) Windows NT started in 1989 and is still used today. Linux started shortly after and now it's in most phones.

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca 2 роки тому +7

      But Apple fanboys (aka Insider and the BBC) like to make out its unique to apple

    • @BAgodmode
      @BAgodmode Рік тому

      @@WhatALoadOfToscathey really don’t.
      God apple haters are a weird lot.
      “I USE MUH ANDROID PHONE AND YEAH THE SECURITY SUCKS BUT ITS SO CUSTOMIZABLE CAUSE ITS OPEN SOURCE!1!1!”
      What does open source mean?
      “Uh uh uh uh idk.”
      lol.
      Dumbest lot.

    • @jasonjason5325
      @jasonjason5325 Рік тому +1

      ​​@@WhatALoadOfToscaagreed 👍 sick of apple fan boys

    • @OldAussieAds
      @OldAussieAds Рік тому +1

      In don’t understand this. How are Android phones “most phones”? iPhones make up a huge percentage of the global market. The iPhone has a 60% share in Australia at the time of writing this. I’m not saying one is better than the other. But just stating the facts. The smartphone OS market is a duopoly.

    • @OldAussieAds
      @OldAussieAds Рік тому

      @@stickbugstickbug6320 Not at all.

  • @s3rverlord
    @s3rverlord 5 років тому +212

    This video is the history of the OS. Doesn't answer the why part at all.

    • @TheScramblerTV
      @TheScramblerTV 5 років тому +23

      Well the video was claiming that modern apple OSes run NExTSTEP but thats disinformation, they actually run Darwin which is based on FreeBSD, and the reason is because UNIX was the standard back then and UNIX-Like operating systems are still in fashion, whether it be 99% of webservers running Linux or IoT devices using UNIX-Like firmware UNIX is still the standard used today and since its just a base of a greater operating system it needs to stay simple and robust, and FreeBSD is very simple and very robust, plus you probably couldn't make anything better if you tried because UNIX is so sold it is just so simple and since it was made to run on the hardware of old; it runs extremely fast and efficiently on modern hardware.

    • @s3rverlord
      @s3rverlord 5 років тому +1

      @@TheScramblerTV thanks.

    • @ce1601
      @ce1601 4 роки тому +1

      @@TheScramblerTV that is not disinformation. That is Steve Jobs' reality distortion field set to maximum warp.

    • @quisqueyanguy120
      @quisqueyanguy120 4 роки тому +1

      Good old clickbait

    • @ifkaralhaq6620
      @ifkaralhaq6620 4 роки тому

      If it ain't broke

  • @katomiccomics202
    @katomiccomics202 5 років тому +227

    The Next computer’s base price was $6500
    The Next monitor was 3000
    And the Next stand was 1000

    • @gytisdramblewolfskis8521
      @gytisdramblewolfskis8521 5 років тому +20

      I suppose apple learned. The apple pen costs merely 100$ + taxes.

    • @nororlol4life819
      @nororlol4life819 5 років тому +2

      this is a work of an enemy stand

    • @antniomanso
      @antniomanso 5 років тому +9

      coincidence? maybe
      hotel? trivago

    • @omegaman1409
      @omegaman1409 4 роки тому +1

      Typical.

    • @willd0g
      @willd0g 4 роки тому

      Had no idea the work-provided multi-dongle essentially cost $100AUD ; plus my magic keyboard with numpad and magic mouse / and that’s over $500 AUD in (necess)accessories before even getting started. The genuine leather sleeve is like $350... fkn hell

  • @HowieIsaacks
    @HowieIsaacks 4 роки тому +49

    It's a shame that Steve's persnickety perfectionism doomed the NeXT computers in the market before they even went on sale. That said, they were years ahead of everything else on the market. Apple's acquisition of NeXT was, in a lot of ways, a reverse acquisition. NeXT technology became the basis of everything Apple makes today.

    • @markaurelius61
      @markaurelius61 Рік тому +1

      Exactly. In terms of outcome it would be better to explain this as Next took over Apple.

  • @enoll218
    @enoll218 Рік тому +54

    this is just mind blowing information for me can’t believe they don’t in fact rewrite the entire operating system from scratch in each software update and actually just add that new feature to already existing os

    • @danielratner
      @danielratner Рік тому +8

      That's true for almost all software. Why would you ever start from scratch? Programming is largely an act of taking existing technology and code, and manipulating it perform different functions or work more efficiently

    • @Toothily
      @Toothily Рік тому

      @@danielratnerwhoosh

    • @leafyon
      @leafyon Рік тому +15

      @@danielratnerhe was being sarcastic

    • @ironfist7789
      @ironfist7789 Рік тому

      I mean, you'd probably want to create a new programming language first that is up to date at the time of each update

  • @jakederouin9116
    @jakederouin9116 4 роки тому +25

    For those of you in iOS development the NS in classes such as NSUserDefaults and NSKeyedArchiver stands for NextStep.

    • @SKCodesForFun
      @SKCodesForFun Рік тому +1

      I just replied with this to another thread :), crazy how this is true !!!

  • @colehuesca
    @colehuesca 5 років тому +197

    While everyone played an instrument, he played the orchestra.

    • @HammadKhan-is5pb
      @HammadKhan-is5pb 5 років тому +7

      Oh u also watched that movie

    • @smks8er
      @smks8er 5 років тому

      Others were playing checkers he was playing chess

    • @happysmash27
      @happysmash27 4 роки тому +1

      @@HammadKhan-is5pb Which movie?

    • @HammadKhan-is5pb
      @HammadKhan-is5pb 4 роки тому +1

      @@happysmash27 Steve Jobs 2015.
      Its a really gr8 movie u should give it a try

    • @glossygloss472
      @glossygloss472 4 роки тому +2

      cringe

  • @carlolabadia5610
    @carlolabadia5610 5 років тому +33

    "NS" prefixed libraries of Apple's sofwares-Objective C and swift- mean NextStep. The software engineers from neXt were some of the brilliant guys at that time, and brought their ideas that powered Mac, iPad, iPhone, and apple watches' OS till today.

  • @PassiveSmoking
    @PassiveSmoking 4 роки тому +17

    The core of OSX is in fact pushing 50 years old. BSD Unix (which serves as the core of both NeXTStep and OSX with the exception of the Mach kernel) dates back to the 70s.
    As to why? If it works, then it works. Why change it just because it's been around a while?

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican 5 років тому +342

    An apple from Isaac Newton's tree landed on Steve Jobs' head and that saved Apple

    • @nocturnalsonder
      @nocturnalsonder 5 років тому +8

      Funny enough, Apple's first logo is a depiction of Isaac Newton under the Apple tree

    • @mrhumphrey7190
      @mrhumphrey7190 5 років тому

      Apples basically died again

    • @thatocelot879
      @thatocelot879 5 років тому

      And then Apple died again.

    • @TAILSORANGEs
      @TAILSORANGEs 5 років тому +5

      And then Tim placed Apple in front of the Cook so that Steve would not have a job...
      Tim: Please help me find the way...
      Steve: Way? What way? ( I am hinting something)
      Also Steve: For God sake, get yourself a book...
      Meng Wang zhou: ... And Mate that Book. [MateBook]
      Also Meng: Can I buy an apple Pie at MacDonald's?
      Lei Jun: Yes. An Organic one. Get ME a note book please. [Xiaomi Mi notebook pro]

    • @charleskim6711
      @charleskim6711 4 роки тому

      Mr Humphrey not even close

  • @viiz6248
    @viiz6248 5 років тому +97

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  • @rosaliamiranda4808
    @rosaliamiranda4808 4 роки тому +10

    I love how Steve convinced a dude to drop out of his job to work with him, didn't like it, dropped out of the company and in the end the dude had to drop out this company as well 🙂

  • @musicalneptunian
    @musicalneptunian 5 років тому +84

    I was in the high school system in the late 80's as a student. The computer labs had:
    [1] IBM [compatibles?]: 80%
    [2] Apple 2 e : 20% and decreasing in senior computer labs.
    There was no Apple NEXT computer anywhere. It got nowhere in education. A reminder as well: the school market was a gold prize then because back then software had total incompatbility. ThaT IS, a word processor program's file would not open on the other brand of computer. So kids had to have the same computer at home. So to get the school market was 24 carat gold because then you got the home market.

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 5 років тому +5

      Musical Neptunian NeXT was too expensive for schools and colleges.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 4 роки тому +2

      Now look..... we ALL own iPads, iPhones and a bunch of watches...... the majority most likely selling to folks 16 - 40 yo.......HOLY COW !!!!!!

    • @saimajavedsaimajaved4515
      @saimajavedsaimajaved4515 4 роки тому +3

      @@goobfilmcast4239 not everybody owns a iphone or ipad

    • @saimajavedsaimajaved4515
      @saimajavedsaimajaved4515 4 роки тому +3

      @@goobfilmcast4239 some people use android

    • @wlonsdale1
      @wlonsdale1 4 роки тому +1

      So because your school didn’t have it no one did?

  • @國鈞-r3m
    @國鈞-r3m 4 роки тому +26

    "Hey, I'm Steve Jobs. I make computers." What a statement

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca 2 роки тому

      Bit of a stretch. Woz made the computers. Steve never made anything. He did copy of lot of things that other people made though.

    • @kiran-thetributechannel
      @kiran-thetributechannel 2 роки тому

      @@WhatALoadOfTosca What ? Woz just made the circuit board, he made all the other parts and built it by himself

    • @OldAussieAds
      @OldAussieAds Рік тому

      This old chestnut. If you run a company that makes computers then you’re making computers. The Apple II (and other machines from the late 70s) were unique in that they could be made by one person. By the time of this quote from Steve, no computer was made by just one person and the person who was playing conductor was just as important as the orchestra.

    • @猫娘-j4t
      @猫娘-j4t 5 місяців тому

      Well, you need someone to talk to people. While some people who make computers had no social skills and would confuse people outside their circle.

  • @danh5637
    @danh5637 5 років тому +9

    It's actually even older because NextStep was built on OpenBSD, which is an OS in its own right!

  • @clahrenssgramula4374
    @clahrenssgramula4374 5 років тому +77

    And now I'm 2019
    we have an aluminium rotating stick costing 999 dollars. Wow how times have changed.

    • @denis_denis05
      @denis_denis05 5 років тому

      But ..... it's Fred shipping

    • @lilvodka7647
      @lilvodka7647 5 років тому

      Denis Denis Fred shipping pog

    • @mxmln8699
      @mxmln8699 5 років тому +4

      Hi 2019, I’m Max.

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 5 років тому

      Clarence Gramula the universe will eventually collapse on itself anyways.

    • @denis_denis05
      @denis_denis05 5 років тому

      @@alphazar but still Fred shipping

  • @alilabeebalkoka
    @alilabeebalkoka 5 років тому +50

    Because it works and why reinvent the wheel?
    I do not even have to watch this video.
    I am a software engineer. You use codes that works regardless of when it was written. Saves time and 💰 money honestly in developing software.

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 років тому +7

      Now watch the video!

    • @alilabeebalkoka
      @alilabeebalkoka 5 років тому +3

      @@nadeemshaikh7863 Nope! It was suggestions in my feeds for some reason. I do not like Apple at all. Microsoft fan!!!

    • @TheScramblerTV
      @TheScramblerTV 5 років тому +5

      Glad you didnt watch, the history of Apple and other companies like Microsoft are every interesting to me and as such i know alot about the topic and the video was misinformation and didn't even answer the question

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 років тому +4

      @@alilabeebalkoka Man, you're such a Drama queen!

    • @nadeemshaikh7863
      @nadeemshaikh7863 5 років тому

      @@TheScramblerTV What misinformation were there?

  • @aeonhelendale8777
    @aeonhelendale8777 5 років тому +6

    Jobs didn't leave Apple, he was removed and forced to launch the company NEXT as a showing to Apple that they've made a mistake. NEXT was never made to be successful or productive, it was a vengeful base to start a campaign to eventually force Apple to want him back. watching Apple hit failure meant his mission was a success, his replacement stepped down and he knew he was going to win. Therefore he released the best of software from next to encourage a buy out. Pocketed over 400% from the original startup cost of next and slipped back into Apple at the same time. A win followed by a win followed by a sneaky success.

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 років тому +2

      No, he left on his accord. He was offered to be VP of R&D division but declined.

    • @robbmonn
      @robbmonn Рік тому +2

      I know that this is the story that has been told, but it is not the whole story. Jobs looked around and saw that Unix workstations were the most powerful computers on desktops and were far ahead of windows and mac desktops and made the calculation that the next generation of desktops would need the kind of OS and UI environments that people were using Suns and SGIs and AIX systems for in the late 80s and 90s but tuned to the normal user. So he started Next. He had to build the hardware to start because he couldn't run it on commodity hardware, which was too limited. If you were in the headspace of these UNIX workstations at the time Next made a lot of sense. Not as a computer for normal people, but as a way of making OSes that would eventually be for normal people. He wasn't alone. IBM's OS2 project and Windows NT were very similar projects... they were not in use as commodity OSes for years and years but the idea was that they would eventually be the new norm.

  • @ktcool4660
    @ktcool4660 5 років тому +71

    LOL, NextStep is a BSD fork. Unix made iPhone possible!

    • @Locutus
      @Locutus 5 років тому +9

      Why is this funny? It's not as if it's been a secret for 30 years.

    • @ckingpro
      @ckingpro 5 років тому +3

      What do you mean by LOL? If you check the iPhone's introduction, it said that iPhone's software is based on Mac OS X, with its "rick-solid UNIX foundation". So, it was a surprise just to you?

    • @vampirzhul8115
      @vampirzhul8115 4 роки тому +2

      @@Locutus its funny because Jobs and people at Apple working for him had habit to "steal" open source community. Like for their first web navigator they said to open source community "we like your web navigator please give it to us, we will keep updates open source bla bla bs bs ..." then basically stole navigator and never published updates seriously then did everything they could to bury the original web navigator open source project. They did this many times for "their" OSX OS. Also OSX is rather a fork of FreeBSD than anything else... so this video is kinda bs too.

    • @Maddie_is_a_swiftie
      @Maddie_is_a_swiftie 4 роки тому

      I thought it was Linux??

  • @willblack7353
    @willblack7353 4 роки тому +7

    "Hey, I'm starting my own computer company and I'm looking to poach some chumps. You in?" -Steve Jobs, 1985

  • @adam872
    @adam872 2 роки тому +15

    OSX is the best desktop operating system I've ever used. I lusted after a NeXT machine when I was a student but in the end I've actually got one in a different guise. The fact that it runs a version of Unix means it's incredibly stable and pretty secure and also puts a nice GUI on top of it. I can't see myself changing any time soon.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Рік тому +2

      having used solaris unix, minix even, all windows variants, linux gnome, kde and macos I'll say it's okay for regular users, but it's lacking for power users. Still requiring spectacles to make its window management acceptable, a basic feature found for many years in linux desktop managers.
      NextStep was an innovation, but it seems when Apple got it, they didn't do much with it other than a paintjob

    • @adam872
      @adam872 Рік тому +5

      @@Cenot4ph I'm similar in that I've used (in order) SunOS, Ultrix, OSF/1, Solaris, IRIX, Redhat, SuSE and Ubuntu. I get the criticism of OSX from Linux people who prefer the customisability and power features of their preferred distro. At work I'd probably crave that, but at home with my Mac I don't need much of it to be honest. The great thing is that the market caters for all tastes and OSX happens to be mine.

  • @E4est
    @E4est 5 років тому +7

    Yeah...anybody else who noticed that the "Mac OS X" screenshots in this video feature Internet Explorer in the dock?
    4:22

    • @squidgrill
      @squidgrill 5 років тому +6

      Internet Explorer was the default browser in OS X before Safari started existing.

    • @E4est
      @E4est 5 років тому +1

      @@squidgrill I just checked it and you're right. I didn't know that, thank you!

  • @Maxfli82
    @Maxfli82 5 років тому +11

    You’re right. There are a lot of features and looks of macOS that comes from nextstep OS. There is an old video on UA-cam about Steve Jobs demoing the nextstep os. You can tell that the finder, the dock, and system preferences were almost direct ports from Nextep OS when you watch that.

    • @ConernicusRex
      @ConernicusRex 2 роки тому +4

      Not features of.... macOS is NeXTStep. Quite literally.

    • @Warp2090
      @Warp2090 Рік тому

      why do apple users call it a dock and not a taskbar like normal windows users

    • @user-dj2yf6xl5k
      @user-dj2yf6xl5k Рік тому

      @@Warp2090because even in Linux and Unix base system we call it docks and taskbars they have a different approach and functionalities they aren’t the same things that’s why Microsoft is turning the taskbar into a dock in windows 11 centering things and in previous windows versions they changed the behavior of the icons and the menus on the taskbar turning into more app dock like

    • @superultrafabulous
      @superultrafabulous Рік тому +4

      @@Warp2090why do windows users call it taskbar not a dock like normal apple users?

    • @leothehuman_9476
      @leothehuman_9476 Рік тому

      Why do Windows and Mac users fight about their UIs when Linux can have both? And more?

  • @ten._.s
    @ten._.s 5 років тому +27

    1:12 left apple?! He was FIRED!!!

    • @capndavey1
      @capndavey1 4 роки тому +4

      he was forced to resign in his mind he was fired! but he still had controlling stock thats why NEXT computers were very similar in design to a Mac

    • @gerardosalas9477
      @gerardosalas9477 4 роки тому +1

      Ten S but he left it, didn’t he?

    • @AZmotion
      @AZmotion 4 роки тому +3

      He was removed from the Apple board, but then left the company by himself later on

  • @MegumiHayashida
    @MegumiHayashida 5 років тому +10

    I've watched a couple of 'motivational speeches' from successful individuals and I realised that what they have in common is the fact that failures seem inevitable which is a life testimony on how the road to success is rarely following the initial target according to our plans, surprisingly there are always an unpredictable punch in the face or a tragic turn of event and we all know without ppl working in the shadow like Wozee the process in order to succeed would take an eternity to progress.

    • @MegumiHayashida
      @MegumiHayashida 5 років тому +2

      @James Franko I see where you're coming from but you don't know me neither what I'm going through nor even the sacrifices I'm currently making to reach my goals. Only time will tell if I took the right risks but I certainly not brag about my personal journey on the internet. Watching these 'motivational vids' once in a while can help as simple reminders that actions speak better than words and maybe someone somewhere will see my comment and get back on track after experiencing a brutal failure.

    • @augustogalindo8687
      @augustogalindo8687 4 роки тому

      I get the point of James, most of the people advertising motivational speeches end up in those pyramid or multi level businesses and claim they’re entrepreneurs. It’s painful to see and they don’t realize how ridiculous they are.
      Obviously I’m not saying that you are one of them, there’s no way for me to know, but just be careful with that kind of people.

    • @robbmonn
      @robbmonn Рік тому

      I saw Steve Jobs speak a few times when I worked for Apple. What he often said was that he was no smarter than anyone else but that he figured out very early on that he needed to get better at failing than everyone else to succeed. "Most people are terrible at failing. They get emotional and loose all the really valuable lessons and information that you get when you fail. They quit thinking that a failure gives you nothing... but failures will eventually tell you all the things that you need to know that literally no one could teach you because no one else knows them." The quotes from memory but that's more or less what he said. I'll never forget it. Get better at failing.

  • @VealCalf1
    @VealCalf1 4 роки тому +16

    "Unix dates back to the 1960's"
    Please see "unix epoch," I can assure you that unix does not date back to the 1960's.

    • @quisqueyanguy120
      @quisqueyanguy120 4 роки тому

      @@JeremiahPayne Thats what he meant by "unix epoch"

    • @christophernuzzi2780
      @christophernuzzi2780 4 роки тому

      The first edition of the Unix Programmer's Manual by Ken Thompson and Donald Ritchie - a typewritten document "published" internally at Bell Labs - is dated November 3rd, 1971. Between that and the Unix epoch, I think it is pretty safe to consider Unix to be 1970s technology.

  • @matchesburn
    @matchesburn 5 років тому +13

    1:44
    "But the NEXT computer was expensive..."
    Just like Apple.

  • @LaurentCourtin
    @LaurentCourtin 5 років тому +14

    Didn’t they actually try to buy BeOS first (but it was too expensive), and went for Jobs/NeXT when they realized there was no other choice?

    • @oldtwinsna8347
      @oldtwinsna8347 5 років тому +9

      It's far more complex. Apple began to search for a replacement OS as far as back 1987 when they realized what they had would not be competitive and was well known as a turd OS in the computing circles. They had one in-house design with IBM that lead to total failure (Taligent), and then another one (Copland) that was an even bigger failure. By then it was late 1996 and so Apple pissed away nearly a decade of development and had absolutely nothing on the table. Meanwhile, they were getting slaughtered financially from poor sales and were downright desperate for any solution available, but it had to come from an external vendor because Apple's track record of in-house development was not going to be replicated again. And then you have the story from there.

    • @FinnProp
      @FinnProp 4 роки тому

      I think BeOS didn’t even have printing functionality when Apple went shopping for OS. I tried installing it on an 486 PC and I ended up with fried motherboard.

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca 2 роки тому

      BeOS knocked the socks off Next.

    • @ConernicusRex
      @ConernicusRex 2 роки тому

      Internally it was thrown around but it seems like it never got past a tech demo or two.

    • @ConernicusRex
      @ConernicusRex 2 роки тому

      @@WhatALoadOfTosca It most certainly did not.

  • @loyaltheoristgirl1018
    @loyaltheoristgirl1018 4 роки тому +15

    Facorite Steve Jobs quote: *Who wants stylus'? Yuck!*

    • @Hans-gb4mv
      @Hans-gb4mv 4 роки тому +2

      Apple: let's call it a pencil.

    • @loyaltheoristgirl1018
      @loyaltheoristgirl1018 4 роки тому +1

      @@Hans-gb4mv your a genius

    • @kpbendeguz
      @kpbendeguz 8 місяців тому

      And he was right. Stylus is a creativity tool for special use and not an everyday interface device.

  • @Treblaine
    @Treblaine 4 роки тому +3

    Huh, they also skipped number 9 of their versions of operating system, just like Microsoft would with Windows 8 to win-10.

  • @RudieObias
    @RudieObias 5 років тому +3

    I was a Windows user from 1995 until 2003. I switched to Mac just for the Exposé feature in MacOS X.

  • @richardike2342
    @richardike2342 4 роки тому +2

    Steve Jobs did not leave Apple, he got fired from Apple, then got rehired later. It's in his biography.

  • @TheAbu420
    @TheAbu420 4 роки тому +4

    Steve jobs in his younger days looks more nawab Pataudi than saif ali khan 😂😂

  • @prashanrathnayake2476
    @prashanrathnayake2476 5 років тому +1

    What is that background at 2:24 ?????

  • @chrisquick7160
    @chrisquick7160 5 років тому +4

    Man I miss the days of Apple when Jobs was alive. It truly was the tip of innovation.

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca 2 роки тому +1

      Innovation? Apple haven't ever been innovate. Great at marketing and taking other people's ideas and marketing as their own, yes. But innovating themselves? They've never done that.

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Рік тому

      @@WhatALoadOfTosca genius marketing and UX design basically, then being able to ask steep prices and vendor lock customers.
      Most people don't seem to mind, I'll never buy into this walled garden

    • @k.b.tidwell
      @k.b.tidwell Рік тому

      @@WhatALoadOfToscathey are the China of tech companies.

  • @marcdave9521
    @marcdave9521 4 роки тому +2

    Apple made a company to challenge apple and made more money and became CEO again,
    What a legend

  • @jso19801980
    @jso19801980 4 роки тому +5

    3:05 a guy from pepsi isnt going to help

  • @addyperps
    @addyperps 4 роки тому +1

    "Why Earth Still Uses 5 Billion Year Old Water"

  • @zey2012
    @zey2012 4 роки тому +10

    I'm not surprised Steve Jobs charged $6,500 for a desktop in that time.

    • @honkhonk8009
      @honkhonk8009 Рік тому +1

      Atleast it was next gen shit at the time.
      Wtf is MacOS today? Sure it got an M1, but for years its just been litterally a scam.

    • @hisyam1664
      @hisyam1664 Рік тому

      @@honkhonk8009 M2's now, they're really smooth

    • @romanval69
      @romanval69 Рік тому

      @@honkhonk8009 iOS is a decendent of MacOS/NeXT, so there's literally hundreds of millions using it.

    • @leothehuman_9476
      @leothehuman_9476 Рік тому

      @@honkhonk8009 Macs got no qualities other than their aesthetics and build quality. Any other computer cost less than half with everything superior.

  • @pitopintogorgorito4309
    @pitopintogorgorito4309 4 роки тому +1

    Say Mac OS is the same software as 30 years ago is clearly say “I have not fckng clue of what I’m talking about”

  • @ratuldeoun7228
    @ratuldeoun7228 5 років тому +3

    This video shows how young Apple still is. They switched many CEOs.

    • @Warp2090
      @Warp2090 Рік тому +1

      yeah and the new one is terrible

  • @RobertKoflerWien
    @RobertKoflerWien Рік тому +2

    we used to run NextSTEP on a intel 486 (!!). it was a tremendous boost of performance compared to windoooozzze and OS/2. e.g. the demo medical video (gastroscopy) included with Next came with 30fps compared to flickering 15-20fps on windows. Since then we turned away from Microsoft as they were and are still years behind of what is state-of-the-art!

  • @felixxdenolo6793
    @felixxdenolo6793 5 років тому +4

    Steve Jobs - Who wants a stylus ?
    iPad Pro - me please 🖐

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 5 років тому

      Who wants a bigget screen phone? Iphone plus

    • @aarushsoni3785
      @aarushsoni3785 4 роки тому

      Teluric 1 nah

  • @Arkid77777
    @Arkid77777 4 роки тому +2

    Did I just get clickbaited

  • @rusitoexplorador
    @rusitoexplorador 4 роки тому +7

    Damn imagine being a programmer in the 1960'

    • @robbmonn
      @robbmonn Рік тому

      My pop's first programming job in 1968: the computer had no monitor: the main way that things worked was reading, writing and advancing magnetic tape (a literal turning machine), and output could be viewed on multiple banks of 8 lights. The input was entirely done with punch cards and a card punch machine. The memory of the computer was a matrix of tiny magnetic donuts strung on silk fibers and tiny wires (a memory core).

    • @rusitoexplorador
      @rusitoexplorador Рік тому

      @@robbmonn Wow that is incredible! Thanks for sharing

  • @mamoon3737
    @mamoon3737 5 років тому +40

    Thank you, Next.

  • @Johnnyboycurtis
    @Johnnyboycurtis 5 років тому +9

    TL;DR
    Unix saves Apple

  • @headbumb9022
    @headbumb9022 Рік тому +1

    aye, dont mind me watching this video on a MacBook 💀💀

  • @mayureshdhat3480
    @mayureshdhat3480 5 років тому +5

    0:39 always gives me goosebumps

  • @MobileNews24
    @MobileNews24 5 років тому +15

    nice video

  • @ericpa06
    @ericpa06 5 років тому +6

    Didn't Apple totally break backward compatibility years ago when they change from power-PC to intel based processors? I mean, saying "it's the same software" make look as if you could get a program written for mac in 1998 and run it today on your macbook. Windows is "the same software", I mean they at least kept backward compatibility somewhat.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 5 років тому +1

      Apple used a series of system "enhancements" to allow for the bridge between OS 8 (old) to OS X (new, unix based) then did the same thing to allow non X86 PPC software to run in Intel-based Macs. It wasn't perfect but it allowed the installed base to keep the core functionality of their earlier purchased applications as Apple moved the Mac "upward". This support was relatively short-lived but it kept a lot of user happy enough to stay committed. BTW, I am currently using an 11 yo Mac Pro as my daily driver while my friends have tossed at least two or three (and more) Win PCs and laptops in the trash while struggling with everything from Win XP on down.

    • @Rhythmattica
      @Rhythmattica 5 років тому

      @@goobfilmcast4239 10 year old Mac Pro here... Winning ! ;)

    • @enzonolastname1181
      @enzonolastname1181 4 роки тому

      No they actually added compatibility tools like universal and Rosetta

    • @Cenot4ph
      @Cenot4ph Рік тому

      @@Rhythmattica back when the hardware was actually good, nowadays it's just a phone. Forget about servicing, but you pay a premium regardless.
      Buying Apple now is throwing your money away literally

  • @boostedmaniac
    @boostedmaniac 5 років тому +1

    When is Mac OS XI coming out?

    • @alexandrebouvier7731
      @alexandrebouvier7731 5 років тому

      X was for Uni"x" or NeXT. Now they just call their OS macOS. The last version is the 15.2 one.

    • @aarushsoni3785
      @aarushsoni3785 4 роки тому

      Alexandre Bouvier no, x was for macOS 10. It’s macOS 11 now

  • @alberteinsteinthejew
    @alberteinsteinthejew 4 роки тому +5

    Steve Jobs didn't leave Apple, he was fired

    • @goldenhourkodak
      @goldenhourkodak 4 роки тому +1

      Nope. He left. He claimed he was fired but it was not true. He was fired from the Macintosh project.

  • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
    @user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 років тому +12

    0:08 - Pft. Jobs didn't make computers, Wozniak did. Jobs _sold_ computers; he was little more than a used-car salesman, repleat with sleazy used-car salesman tactics. 😒

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 5 років тому

      - Jobs created a company that make computers. It's not that hard to understand. Wozniak was an engineer, he made boards and wrote software but he wasn't in charge of the whole computer design like casing, mouse, GUI etc.

    • @goobfilmcast4239
      @goobfilmcast4239 5 років тому

      Walt Disney worked alone in a cave 422.5 days a year for 20.68 years to animate Snow White directly onto film stock frame by frame and built DisneyLand with just a hammer, saw and a paint bucket on the nights he could not sleep...SJ was a piker in comparison :-)

  • @cybermonkeyusa
    @cybermonkeyusa 4 роки тому +3

    The Newton was actually showing a profit when Steve decided to kill it off.

  • @ignskeletons
    @ignskeletons Рік тому +1

    I love MacOS, and with the new Sonoma update it gets better with widgets on desktop, better animated wallpapers from Apple, and more. I'm.a fan, and as someone who also likes Windows, I can make VMs with Parallels!

  • @TheGreatCooLite
    @TheGreatCooLite 5 років тому +5

    Was it just me or was it hard to distinguish when the narrator was saying the word "next" from when he was saying the company name?

    • @fahoudey
      @fahoudey 5 років тому

      English is not your mothertongue obviously

  • @eugrus
    @eugrus 5 років тому +2

    Having some 30 year old code in modern products is quite ok. It's not different with the NT line.

  • @Viewerce4ry
    @Viewerce4ry 5 років тому +8

    Gosh Steve Jobs looks exactly like Ashton cutcher XD *young Steve jobs*

    • @James-iw4fz
      @James-iw4fz 5 років тому

      DrFcku 2350 yeah I thought that was Ashton

  • @ramoberoi8285
    @ramoberoi8285 2 роки тому

    "Why computers still use billions of years old elements"

  • @rahulvaidya6753
    @rahulvaidya6753 5 років тому +21

    Comments have more knowledge than video.. :)

  • @olsmokey
    @olsmokey 4 роки тому +1

    And all PCs run with a core of that CP/M derivative called DOS. How far back does THAT go? A lot further than NeXT.

  • @ali_armaan2093
    @ali_armaan2093 5 років тому +3

    Sir your voice is magical and attractive.
    Love 💓 from India 🇮🇳

  • @Algoframe
    @Algoframe 4 роки тому +2

    Apple is famous in America and Europe. But in India 9 out of 10 use Windows.

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 4 роки тому +3

      Apple is super expensive for us. With avg income of $3500 in India vs $35000 in USA.
      Hardly any person uses Apple here

  • @jameschristensen1658
    @jameschristensen1658 4 роки тому +3

    it’s like when michael scott left dunder mifflin

  • @timothycrawford3476
    @timothycrawford3476 3 роки тому

    You guys left so much of the story out, to quote Tim and Eric “You blew it”.

  • @TheMIBlack
    @TheMIBlack 4 роки тому +3

    Steve Jobs is the father of innovation in this field. Apple innovation died with him. Now I see little to no innovation at all. Apple does not introduce something NEW nowadays.

    • @WhatALoadOfTosca
      @WhatALoadOfTosca 2 роки тому +1

      Steve and innovation is an urban legend. He never "innovated". He took ideas others innovated and made them out to be his own. He marketed them well and people fell for it.

    • @LuxeFilmography
      @LuxeFilmography Рік тому

      Apple Silicon, AirPods, AppleWatch, VisionPro, etc but yeah, what you said

  • @TheGreatest88729
    @TheGreatest88729 4 роки тому +1

    if you ever talk to every engineer that NextStep not really working on Apple devices, they really start over from the beginning but with the same design.

  • @mikecar52
    @mikecar52 5 років тому +4

    Mac os based on a discarded version of FreeBSD AFAIK. I think around the time they changed over to intel chips.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      legacy... it just how it is...

  • @ItsGroundhogDay
    @ItsGroundhogDay 5 років тому +13

    Charging 10 times as much for an inferior product? Sounds just like Apple.

    • @BeeRich33
      @BeeRich33 5 років тому

      Not understanding real technology, sounds just like MS poor boys.

    • @Teluric2
      @Teluric2 5 років тому

      @@BeeRich33 there s a resson why more teenagers and women use apple and its not intelligence..sorry you need to buy a life and status

  • @eugrus
    @eugrus 5 років тому +2

    2:20 hearing the Unix birthdate mixed up hurts!

  • @nicholastravisano3439
    @nicholastravisano3439 5 років тому +8

    Nothing jobs ever did was a failure 😤💪🏼

  • @ConernicusRex
    @ConernicusRex 2 роки тому +1

    They use brand new software. What you mean is a 30 year old language architecture. But if you said that upfront then people might realize it isn't rare or any more worthy of a video than "Why financial institutions still use 63 year old COBOL for everything".

  • @jahanzaibsiyal3239
    @jahanzaibsiyal3239 5 років тому +6

    My windows 10 is working fine.

  • @rickkarrer8370
    @rickkarrer8370 Рік тому

    The macOS build number corresponds to the NeXTSTEP version. macOS 14 Sonoma is, in a sense, NeXTSTEP 23.

  • @Andre-Vids
    @Andre-Vids 5 років тому +6

    Irony: I am watching this on my iPhone XR

  • @jaybone8119
    @jaybone8119 Рік тому

    Steve Jobs was forced out and fired. He didn’t leave on his own.

  • @blazingguyop
    @blazingguyop 5 років тому +4

    But I love Steve jobs
    He is like my mentor
    He is my inspiration
    If he still lives apple would be a great company
    "Great people die early"
    😭

    • @user-vn7ce5ig1z
      @user-vn7ce5ig1z 5 років тому +4

      It's obsessive, myopic, apologist fanbois like you who made Apple the horrible abusive company it has become. ¬_¬

    • @blazingguyop
      @blazingguyop 5 років тому

      @@user-vn7ce5ig1z bro I don't have iPhone or any apple product 😄😛

    • @alphazar
      @alphazar 5 років тому +1

      - you should calm down and buy an iPhone

  • @saskiavanhoutert6081
    @saskiavanhoutert6081 Рік тому

    To me Steve Jobs could never been fired from APPLE. He was the know-how from that company. Somehow I still not understand how that could happen. Now with various now devices like the I-PHONE and the INTERNET you should agree that Steve Jobs is the man all behind it. With others of course perhaps but Steve remains the man behind APPLE. Kind Regards.

  • @boxertest
    @boxertest 5 років тому +3

    SJ still the ghost in the Apple machine

    • @musicalneptunian
      @musicalneptunian 5 років тому +1

      If you look closely at the apple screen and you see a ghostly man in a turtleneck sweater and jeans...

    • @musicalneptunian
      @musicalneptunian 5 років тому

      @@zux128 No, it is Woz using a computer program to imitate Steve.

  • @lokeshwaranvr
    @lokeshwaranvr 4 роки тому

    Tech Insider about Mac OS: After 20 years still millions are using it!
    Windows: Am I a joke to you?

  • @RayMak
    @RayMak 4 роки тому +7

    It's a great software

    • @freezingicy9457
      @freezingicy9457 4 роки тому +2

      comments like this won't save your dying chanell.

    • @freezingicy9457
      @freezingicy9457 4 роки тому +1

      @Icey Hes coincidence? I think not

    • @ronaldddoooo
      @ronaldddoooo 4 роки тому

      @@freezingicy9457 wait really?

    • @ronaldddoooo
      @ronaldddoooo 4 роки тому

      I have saw many comments of yours...

    • @freezingicy9457
      @freezingicy9457 4 роки тому

      @@ronaldddoooo yea he's only getting upto 10k views with upwards of 300k subs. his chanells not looking so good.

  • @shehzad2519
    @shehzad2519 4 роки тому +1

    If Steve Jobs was alive, he would ban the notch

  • @carlmanalo3444
    @carlmanalo3444 5 років тому +5

    Too many misinformations

  • @lundsweden
    @lundsweden Рік тому +1

    I can, at a pinch use Win 95/98 programs on Windows 11. Win 95 came out nearly 30 years ago- try doing that on a Mac!

  • @diboymashesha
    @diboymashesha 5 років тому +2

    Your the first source that says he left wasn't he fired?

    • @hadis5160
      @hadis5160 5 років тому

      For my knowledge in one of the books about his career it said that he got kicked out of the company's board and thus he left to found a new company where he could be the person making the decisions again.
      Correct me if I'm wrong.

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      Technically he was force out... but the shareholder... it a business world Job back then burn cash too much...

    • @campkira
      @campkira 5 років тому

      @@hadis5160 the only reason why they bring Job is they do the same thing with Billy Martin... He gown older and technology just give more ability for him to sale the product...

  • @krisjonesuk
    @krisjonesuk 4 роки тому

    Since both NeXt and Mac OS are based on Unix, one could argue this video should be titled Why Macs use 50 year-old software.

  • @anandnairkollam
    @anandnairkollam Рік тому

    Is this interfering music necessary?

  • @wonderwallflower
    @wonderwallflower 4 роки тому

    Steve Jobs: who wants a stylus, yuck!
    Apple now: who wants to buy a $$$ Apple pen?

  • @juniorsilvabroadcast
    @juniorsilvabroadcast 4 роки тому +1

    And with that huge progress. Microsoft still destroyed and crushed apple with Windows XP. and it continued until today.