On Divine Fear - Abba Dorotheos of Gaza

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  • Опубліковано 28 сер 2022
  • St. Dorotheos of Gaza (+565), disciple of Sts. Barsanuphius and John, is one of the most revered teachers on spiritual life, speaking from his direct experience with Christ through his ascetic struggle. Many basic questions we have about the fear of God and how to have it are answered here.
    St. Dorotheos writes, “If, now, even the Saints, who so love the Lord, fear Him, why does St. John say that ‘love casteth out fear?’ The Saint wishes to indicate to us that there are two kinds of fear, one initial and the other perfect, and that, while one is characteristic of neophytes, as we say, in the spiritual life, the other is characteristic of the holy, of those who have been made perfect spiritually and have attained to a measure of holy love. Heed what I am saying. One does the Will of God out of fear of punishment. He, as we have said, is a total neophyte. He does not strive on account of goodness itself, but because he fears chastisements. The other does the Will of God because he loves God and since he especially rejoices when his life is pleasing to God. He knows the essence of goodness; he has tasted of what it means for one to be united to God. This is the one who has the true love that St. John calls ‘perfect.’ And this love leads him to perfect fear. For he fears and does the Will of God, not out of fear of chastisements, not out of fear of perhaps going to Hell, but, just as we have said, because he has tasted of the sweetness experienced by those who are united to God and fears that he might be deprived of it. Thus, this perfect fear, which comes forth from love, distances us from initial fear. And for this reason, it is said that: ‘Perfect love casteth out fear.’ Nonetheless, it is impossible for one to arrive otherwise at perfect fear, save by initial fear.”
    “As St. Anthony the Great says, ‘I do not fear God, because I love Him,’ and as the Lord said to Abraham, after the latter offered to sacrifice his son, ‘for now I know that thou fearest God." It is this sort of fear that is meant: fear that comes into the soul from love.’”
    “For they no longer keep the Law of God out of fear, but have fear because they love.”
    “The Fathers have said that one acquires the fear of God by the constant ‘memory of death’ and of eternal punishment; by examining himself at the waning of every day as to how he passed the day, and every morning as to how he passed the night; by not being audacious; and by dwelling with someone else who truly fears God. It is said, indeed, that a brother asked a certain one of the Elders, ‘What can I do, Father, in order to have fear of God?’ And the Elder told him, ‘Place yourself under submission to someone who lives in fear of God, and you, too, will learn to fear Him.’”
    “...if the fear of God distances one from all evil, then certainly wherever there is no fear of God, one finds every sort of passion.”
    “I do not know if I have ever done anything good; but if the Grace of God has always covered me, I know that I have been protected by that fact that I never favored myself over my brother, but always put my brother first.”
    “Of course, indifference is a bad thing. But neither is it, once more, a good thing for one to become so preoccupied with something that happens that he loses his irenic disposition, such that the soul is harmed. Because, in whatever obedience you may undertake, and even if it is urgent and important, I do not wish you to do anything that occasions squabbling and upset, but to be convinced that every task that you fulfill, great or small, as I earlier said, is but an eighth of what is asked of us. Indeed, to maintain your peace, even if thereby you should fail at your obedience, is four eighths, or half, of what has been asked of you. Do you see the difference?”
    Text from "Our Holy Father Dorotheos of Gaza: Various Soul-Profiting Instructions to His Disciples" by Center for Traditionalist Orthodox Studies. Buy the text here: www.ctosonline.org/patristic/...
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  • @kkonrad4165
    @kkonrad4165 Рік тому +22

    Please keep up this wonderful work, Orthodox Wisdom! You're helping many with your posts! God bless you

  • @almedhamorton4369
    @almedhamorton4369 Рік тому +10

    Lord have mercy on me. I catch my self responding to perplexities , talking to myself. and my Lord God , too loud at work,

    • @normadaly7506
      @normadaly7506 2 місяці тому

      I do this too 🙏☦️☀️

  • @joer9156
    @joer9156 Рік тому +10

    Thank you. This kind of recording is just what I most enjoy - something on one topic, between 30 and 60 minutes. Spot on.

  • @markyoussef6383
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    You have a gift my friend but never forget who gave you it 🙏
    Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of the heavenly lights James 1:17

  • @saadhanna3440
    @saadhanna3440 Рік тому +10

    God bless you amen

  • @d0g_0f_Christ0s
    @d0g_0f_Christ0s Рік тому +3

    This teaching is like a diamond, beautiful in reflecting the light in all directions yet hard enough to pierce any hard surface with efficient precision. Thank you.

  • @hh8222
    @hh8222 Рік тому +4

    God keeps bringing this topic to my attention and I am grateful that you have provided these answers given by the Saint! Thank you!

  • @markyoussef6383
    @markyoussef6383 Рік тому +6

    You should look into the writings of St Anthony the great and St Pachomius the Great

  • @lucycastro9428
    @lucycastro9428 Рік тому +4

    "Life and death depends on our neighbor" wow! I guess it involves putting relationship above task.

  • @boyar3033
    @boyar3033 Рік тому +3

    Brother please if you are able, never stop uploading these readings. At your own pace, but please never stop. Praise be to the lord.

  • @normadaly7506
    @normadaly7506 2 місяці тому

    Thank you very much!!!

  • @tallmikbcroft6937
    @tallmikbcroft6937 Рік тому +2

    Amen

  • @selamtesfaye5962
    @selamtesfaye5962 Рік тому +3

    Thank you!

  • @HomoEucharistica
    @HomoEucharistica 8 місяців тому +1

    Thank you! Truly, the twelve discourses (and sayings) of St. abba Dorotheos of Gaza are to me what the writings of Isaac the Syrian (or was it John of Damascus?) were to St Paisios the Athonite.

  • @leo11190
    @leo11190 Рік тому +2

    Such wisdom!! Thank you🙏🏽😊

  • @kathleankeesler1639
    @kathleankeesler1639 11 місяців тому +1

    Thank you.

  • @Mishakol1290
    @Mishakol1290 Рік тому +3

    Can I use this and put it on my channel?

  • @thenarrowdoor7
    @thenarrowdoor7 5 місяців тому +1

    love god , fear sin

  • @sotirioschortogiannos4363
    @sotirioschortogiannos4363 Рік тому +1

    I wonder what the last 3/8ths of a task are :(

  • @susanengelhard8521
    @susanengelhard8521 Рік тому +2

    Thank you!