What an astonishingly marvelous collection of interview these are... And a mere 'THANK YOU', cannot express the entirety of the gratitude that fills my heart for your sharing them with the world... Hopefully, those of us who follow Mahler's unparalleled genius will learn still more about the master's intentions, his dreams, and about the expressive beauty of his soul. BLESS YOU! BLESS YOU! ~Cate
Gustav Mahler komponierte eine existenzielle bis zum Wahnsinn strebende Musik sein Adagio in der 5.Symphonie ist zauberhaft und zärtlich die ll. Symphonie ist Visionär ein Bang Bang der ein Traum bleibt 🎉 Sir Simon Rattle in Philharmonie Mahler erleben ist brillantes Fantastisch Grandioses Erlebnis ❤
It is interesting to ponder, if Mahler had lived longer would he have taken music in a new, but not atonal, direction and perhaps led a generation in something we will never know? Personally, I don't think atonality was the answer to "what's next?". Making tonality less constraining is different than losing it altogether. There is something to be said for being able to whistle a tune in the shower or walking down the street. Can that be done by anyone other than the composer with 12-tone music?
Great video, but you gotta think if Rattle didn't insert so many long pauses in his speech, this video would've been 5 minutes, tops! lol, he's kinda long winded sometimes.
Oddly, when he was being very interesting and insightful in his documentary series, his mouth would hang open between sentences and make him look like he'd shat himself
I greatly respect Rattle's admirable work with young musicians in promoting classical music, for which I congratulate him. However, I've been listening to Mahler for over 50 years by a multitude of maestros and personally do not consider him among the elite of Mahler conductors. He's good, but far from great.
Try him in his recordings with Bournemouth. My favorite versions of Mahler symphonies are almost all with “secondary” orchestras (Seattle, Minnesota, Frankfurt, …). The Berlin and Vienna versions are magnificent, but none is my favorite.
What a snob. Utah. Do you know anything about Salt Lake City Simon ? The conductor of the Utah Orchestra from the late 1940's through the 70's was a very well regarded maestro internationally , Maurice Abravanel. Joseph Silverstein, former concert master of the Boston Symphony, conducted the orchestra through the 1990's.
Giving Sir Simon the benefit of the doubt, I think he was dumbfounded in admiration that the Utah Orchestra, located in the Great Basin of the western United States, was on the cutting edge in fulfilling Mahler's own words made in response to the lack of appreciation in Europe for his symphonies during his lifetime: "My time will come."
Rattle's never sure about anything. This guy is so boring. At the end of his sermon one doesn't learn a thing, because it's absolute drivel from start to finish.
I have always been annoyed by Rattles narcissism, but no longer am now, after decades in which to come to understand him better. I think of a richly meaningful statement of Ravel's on Ravel, aimed at his critics, " Does it not occur to them that I am authentically artificial?" I now am comfortable accepting that Rattles narcissism ( revealed for example, in the long pauses and his many wordless emotionally personal moments ) is simply who he actually is. "He was a man; take him for all that" Hamlet, on his own father-pace a slight paraphrase.
Even putting his music aside (if that's possible), Mahler must have been an extraordinary human being and an amazing presence to witness.
What an astonishingly marvelous collection of interview these are... And a mere 'THANK YOU', cannot express the entirety of the gratitude that fills my heart for your sharing them with the world... Hopefully, those of us who follow Mahler's unparalleled genius will learn still more about the master's intentions, his dreams, and about the expressive beauty of his soul. BLESS YOU! BLESS YOU! ~Cate
...You express my feelings about these invaluable interviews exactly. Thank you.
Absolutely LOVE these interviews!!!!
2:46 "You have to believe what he says": extraordinary!
Gustav Mahler komponierte eine existenzielle bis zum
Wahnsinn strebende
Musik sein Adagio in der 5.Symphonie ist zauberhaft und zärtlich die ll. Symphonie ist Visionär ein Bang Bang der ein Traum bleibt 🎉
Sir Simon Rattle in Philharmonie Mahler
erleben ist brillantes
Fantastisch Grandioses Erlebnis ❤
Iv always thought Mengelberg did the entire Mahler symphony cycle back in the 20s in Amsterdam
That's correct.
I don't know if Rattle had this in mind, but I believe the Utah Symphony was the first _American_ orchestra to record a complete Mahler cycle.
In fact, GM almost conducted the Ives 3. He came across the score and reportedly took a copy, but nothing came of it. One of music's great What Ifs.
It is interesting to ponder, if Mahler had lived longer would he have taken music in a new, but not atonal, direction and perhaps led a generation in something we will never know? Personally, I don't think atonality was the answer to "what's next?". Making tonality less constraining is different than losing it altogether. There is something to be said for being able to whistle a tune in the shower or walking down the street. Can that be done by anyone other than the composer with 12-tone music?
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Thanks for you comment
Great video, but you gotta think if Rattle didn't insert so many long pauses in his speech, this video would've been 5 minutes, tops! lol, he's kinda long winded sometimes.
I think he's just being very careful in what he ways.
speaking without long pauses is anxiety inducing
Oddly, when he was being very interesting and insightful in his documentary series, his mouth would hang open between sentences and make him look like he'd shat himself
I greatly respect Rattle's admirable work with young musicians in promoting classical music, for which I congratulate him. However, I've been listening to Mahler for over 50 years by a multitude of maestros and personally do not consider him among the elite of Mahler conductors. He's good, but far from great.
Try him in his recordings with Bournemouth. My favorite versions of Mahler symphonies are almost all with “secondary” orchestras (Seattle, Minnesota, Frankfurt, …). The Berlin and Vienna versions are magnificent, but none is my favorite.
What a snob. Utah. Do you know anything about Salt Lake City Simon ? The conductor of the Utah Orchestra from the late 1940's through the 70's was a very well regarded maestro internationally , Maurice Abravanel.
Joseph Silverstein, former concert master of the Boston Symphony, conducted the orchestra through the 1990's.
Giving Sir Simon the benefit of the doubt, I think he was dumbfounded in admiration that the Utah Orchestra, located in the Great Basin of the western United States, was on the cutting edge in fulfilling Mahler's own words made in response to the lack of appreciation in Europe for his symphonies during his lifetime: "My time will come."
Rattle's never sure about anything. This guy is so boring. At the end of his sermon one doesn't learn a thing, because it's absolute drivel from start to finish.
I have always been annoyed by Rattles narcissism, but no longer am now, after decades in which to come to understand him better. I think of a richly meaningful statement of Ravel's on Ravel, aimed at his critics, " Does it not occur to them that I am authentically artificial?" I now am comfortable accepting that Rattles narcissism ( revealed for example, in the long pauses and his many wordless emotionally personal moments ) is simply who he actually is. "He was a man; take him for all that" Hamlet, on his own father-pace a slight paraphrase.
@@photo161 how are long pauses and emotionally personal wordless moments signs of "narcissism"???