I met his father (Kurt’s grandpa) in 2007 at his home. I went to the shop that Kurt bought his first guitar. The guy working there said he gets a lot of people coming to see the store(it’s not the original location but same store) we talked to him for awhile and he pulled out a phone book and showed us Leland Cobains phone number. They said he is a friendly guy and will talk to his grandsons fans. I called him and asked if wanted to meet somewhere for lunch. He told us to stop by his house. We probably talked for 2 hours. Extremely nice man and something I’ll never forget.
God is good. Repent and believe the gospel. Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead. You can be forgiven. You must be born again. There was a woman who had an alabaster box of very precious ointment and she poured it on the head of Jesus. We need to honour the King. The Lord God. ”that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.“ John 3:15 KJV. The Lord Jesus Christ. Repent means change, change from sin. Turn away from sin. Love and fear God. Call on the name of Jesus Christ. Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you. He saved me. There is the lake of fire which is burning for eternity and there is heaven. I have eternal life in heaven because of what the Lord has done. Be ready for the day of judgement.
Watch the interview of the ex teacher of Kurt's. When Kurt got kicked out by his parents, Kurt lived on the teacher's couch for a year. He said what a good kid he was, did all the chores, polite, packed up his sleeping bag each day. The teacher said in that year he never heard once from either Kurt's mother or father.
When Kurt and Courtney lost custody of Frances because of the Vanity Fair article, both said they didn't want their parents to have custody. Show how great of a childhood they had.
Not sure why everyone is accusing him of "not knowing Kurt". You can tell by the look in his eyes, and the emotion and his voice that he realizes who Kurt was, and why his life played out the way it did. And he also is man enough to acknowledge & accept the somewhat negative roll he played in Kurt's life. You look at Kurt's mother's interview and she is a blank slate. No emotion, no feeling. Just yammering on about how they were "best friends" when Kurt himself even said that was not the case. Don Cobain seems like a truly sincere guy..
Cam Olson. Look at the death grip the poor guy has on the armrest of the chair he sits in.in fact in the film the camera man focused in on the arm rest his fingers release and the leather has dimpled from the pressure of him squeezing the chair. He is visually uncomfortable, clearly deep in thought as his wife spoke about Kirk. Definate look of sadness .. And sadly li dont think he was raised with love, and may not have been emotionaly present for his kids... Just very sad.
He didn't know Kurt because Kurt was a reclusive loner who hid behind attention seeking bullshit. The dad regrets it but this is all partly Kurt's fault. People need to call teens out for the way they're also responsible for teen/parent wars. The dad admits it and says "I could've been a better father", kurt played the victim until the very end.
Don Cobain was an asshole who physically and emotionally abused his son. If he feels guilty, then those feelings are justly deserved. Blame Kurt? Why is blaming the victim so popular?
Eva Ragnarsson His mother really bothered me for the same reasons. She was all about pushing the Kurt Legacy where his dad seemed to talk more about his son. IMO, I think Wendy was not a good influence on her son’s life. His dad was flawed but he wanted Kurt to be better. His mom just didn’t seem to care and would kick him out whenever he acted up which was a cry for attention.
I love how brutally honest he is, saying that he could have been a better father is a huge thing to say. Notice how he never once said a bad word about Wendy? I think he’s extremely proud of his son.
Unlike Wendy, who is constantly bad-mouthing Don and who initiated the divorce because the television told her there was more to life than being a wife and mother.
the thing you have to remember is...imagine if you'd taken this guy to one side in 1970. right, mr. cobain...your son is going to be a songwriting genius, and he's going to end up in the biggest band in the world. he's going to be one of the most famous people on the planet. due to the particular idioscyncracies of the band that he's in, it's going to really connect with people, and they're going to feel a huge attachment to him. then, at the height of his fame and success, and at the tender age of 27, he's going to shoot himself. although some people will believe that he was murdered, and there will be considerable debate about this. then a few years later this thing called the internet is going to become popular. then a few years after that this thing called youtube will be started. then you will be interviewed for a film about your son, and it will be broadcast on youtube. and people are going to be commenting on your interview, judging you on things you're doing now. so make sure you're a good dad! not really fair, is it?
First thing is he'd probably think your crazy right ? Same as if someone walked up to you today (1/1/18) & tried to convince you they're from the year 2065 & then tell you your future. Don't mean this in a bad way but it wouldn't make a difference. People are who they are. Don's not a bad guy.I know a couple people that aren't capable of expressing them self's emotionally because they were raised in an in unloving house them self. Sometimes the cycle continues & sometimes it's broken.
Harshitaaa Aaaa I noticed he said "stuff like that" a couple of times, which was one of Kurt's oft repeated lines- even included it in "sliver" (mashed potatoes and stuff like that).
The next day Kurt phoned his father. They talked for over an hour, the longest conversation between the two Cobain men in over a decade. They discussed Iris and her prognosis-the doctors had sent her back to Montesano-and their respective families. Don said he wanted to see Frances, and Kurt proudly recited all the latest things she could say and do. As for their own strained relationship, they avoided reviewing their disappointments in each other, but Don was able to utter the words that many times earlier had eluded him. “I love you Kurt,” he told his son. “I love you too, Dad,” Kurt replied. At the end of the conversation, Kurt invited his father to come see his new house when he returned from tour. When Don hung up, it was one of the few times Jenny Cobain had ever seen her usually stoic husband weeping. ㅡHeavier Than Heaven by Charles R. Cross
His wrestling coach sexually molested him, he remembered right after he went into the hospital. Obviously he wanted to not think about it, so he went home to shoot a Little bit of heroin. Yes two people got there not long after he did. Came up into the spare room he was in,grabbed him and gave him a fatal shot of heroin, killing him. He was already sedated because of what he already had taken, the legal stuff Plus the small bit of heroin. So, Yes Courtney Harrison ordered it to be done. She called Kurt's father to ask where if he had gone to his home. So then after knowing he was not there then she told the two men to go to the house he was staying in. He was about to get a divorce ordered. So she would not get any of the money. Yeah. Just the daughter deserved it. He had not even been allowed to keep that much of it because of his alleged "illness". Normal reactions to abnormal circumstances is not really an illness. I cannot believe those stupid cops actually thought someone can shoot themselves with a shotgun. Nope. Not possible. He didn't even Have a gun, truly. That is true. Says so in a song he wrote. Okay, have a great fucking day, people!!!!!
Yes he was shot After he was already most likely not going to come back from a coma anyhow. Horrific to this day, to me. My life was Already fucked. So I obviously took the case, mostly.
"I stand horrified" at the thought that anyone could think that it's okay to just say, oh well. Just move on!!! Children who are neglected emotionally and abused, no matter who did it. Are the Chosen. JESUS CHRIST is our protector for eternity, living and afterwards. Jesus saves, old age!!!! Imma definitely live into serious old age, healthy and knowing that Christ, and Kurt. Were the best friends I have Ever had!!!!!! I love you, God(Jesus). God bless Kurt Cobain in Heaven. YES, people. HEAVEN!!!!! jews don't get to say that God's real Chosen are evil!!!! NOT anymore! Enough! Is Enough!
Mark G Totally agree. there’s no doubt Kurt and Courtney would have divorced and that would have been his reconnection to his father. It’s hard to raise a child, bond with your child when the other parent is working against you. Kurt would have matured and seen the complexities of his parents divorce. His dad was not perfect but it’s clear he loved his son and still feels the loss.
I like both equally. Strange, just like Kurt, who was one of the most feminist artists of all time. God, he hated people who were biased against women. His comic painting of Mr.Moustache says it all.
very true if you look at pcitures of don when he was young, he and kurt look alike, because of the eyes. Someone commented on that when his dad came to a show once. Kurt had dons eyes and wendy's angular face shape/blond hair/complexion.....but you can see he was also soft-spoken like Don.
interesting when don saw the artistic side of Kurt he knew he had talent and he would communicate with his son. when his mom saw that side she thought he was gay and she would ignore him.
the montage of heck documentary was one of the most well put together documentaries ive ever seen. truly shows just how tragic kurts life was. you can tell his father truly cares for him. such a sad story.
he seems so full of regret it's sad. what becomes obvious from both don and especially Wendy's interviews is how much they still resent each other. Kurt got his dad's looks
What?!!! Kurt was fucking gorgeous and sexy as a mf’er this dudes not good looking damn!! What y’all on anyway?? Lmao. Gets his looks from his dad my ass! No fucking way!!
@@ginamorrison2829 he's like 70 years old here. you're delusional if you think kurt would be good looking at 70. he'd have to change his lifestyle 180 degrees and even then he'd still be 70 and dealing with wrinkles and saggy skin. his dad may be a bad guy, he may not be, but he doesn't look horrible for his age.
@@ginamorrison2829 You are aware that people age, aren't you? Old people who haven't had $500,000 worth of plastic surgery look like the guy in the video. Another dumb millennial.
Gina Morrison If you saw home videos you would very much see the similarities. Like the other replies, you really think Kurt would look like his 25 year old self at 53? Get real!
I feel bad for Don. From what I've heard and seen, he was a more loving parent than Wendy. The sad thing is that Kurt died before he had a chance to mature enough to reconcile with his dad. I'm just guessing but it happened to me and my dad. For most of my 20's and my early 30s, I hated my dad. Then I grew up and realized that he was a human being. Yes, he made some mistakes but so does everybody. I realized everything he did, he did ou t of love. Nobody's perfect.
I admire his honesty, I knew he went through some shit as a child too, they always do and carry it through to the next, but he's at least explaining his background..we all have to learn and heal from these crazy experiences we don't ask for....
Imagine trying to explain what kind of kid your son was 40 years ago in a 10 minute interview. What can you really say. He was a shy kid or he was an outgoing kid. Or I remember this one time we went camping. What can you really say
yes and truth is no one ever dreamed he'd go on to be a professional entertainer much less the biggest one in the world so they dont have memories of watching him develop his skills or elucidate his dreams of the future...they never knew theyd be expected to have amazing stories from his childhood.
Don seems really chilled. The way Wendy spoke of him seems impossible. Either he changed massively or she has exaggerated the truth. She does seem a bit cunning. Don just doesn't seem to have it in him. He comes across as fairly average, almost monotone. Cant see him going into any kind of rage episodes or anything else emotional. Just goes with the flow.
So after reading persistent comments that Kurt looked like his dad I decided to google Don Cobain young and wow yes everyone is absolutely right, he definitely took after his father, especially the eyes, the Cobain eye gene is strong, just look at Frances! I love you Kurt, happy belated birthday!!
Kurt got his eyes from his dad and the way this poor guy is grasping the arm of the chair in an attempt not to show his tears is heartbreaking...I think he mourns Kurt every day and that he feels an enormous sadness
Disappointing. Brett Morgen had this unique chance to let us listen to people who knew Kurt Cobain. Instead he seems really unskilled at bringing out pertinent details from those who knew Kurt. Really too bad because all these people have personal experiences with this fascinating person we'd all like to know better. They seem awkward rather than relaxed and flowing from an experienced interviewer, like Off Camera with Sam Jones who actually relates to the people and lets them talk freely, thus revealing interesting tidbits. Instead we learn next to nothing new we didn't know before the interview. :>\
Yes, and that's why "About a son" (2006) is way better documentary than "Montage of Heck". The only atractive thing that "Montage.. has is the Nirvana material and some great footage and animations. But it's so intrusive and boring for moments, specially the Courtney Kurt videotapes. The only interviews that i think matters was Novoselic and Marander. "About a son" is less hyperbolic, more sincere and gives a sensible aproach of Kurt's life.
Elena Reed this documentary was disappointing and you’re totally right. The interview was awkward and could have been more insightful with better questions.
Just read "Come As You Are" by Michael Azzerad. It's the best Nirvana bio there is. Straight from Kurts mouth as the author interviewed the band extensively.
Montage Of Heck really made Don look like a horrible dad and made wendy always seem sunshine and rainbows. For example, Wendy when talking about Aberdeen in the movie said 'My kids loved that town.' It takes a singular braincell to know Kurt didn't like Aberdeen. Wendy got profit from Kurt and practically never felt guilty about anything with Kurt. Hell when Kurt got his first paycheck for Nevermind Wendy made Kurt pay her 10k. While you have Don who still to this day every day feels constant guilt about the things that happened with kurt and genuinely feels bad. Don also practically gets zero profit from Kurt, much unlike Wendy
i think alot of the stuff , ie the way Don kobain treated his wife , no gifts, no I love you, no compliments really caused a deep hurt that wounded and the domino effect echoed into Kurt, it was this that caused a huge void in Kurt's psyche, hence the divorce was the last straw. kids learn from their parents, they also obtain coping mechanisms from them as well.
While Don could have been a better husband/father, it sounds like he had some past trauma from his own childhood preventing that. He claims his parents never showed him love, meaning Don probably had no idea to show love to someone else.
@@urora._.111 I don't recall reading that in any of the biographies. Cursory google search doesn't show any accusations of beatings. They were estranged for other reasons
his father was abusive and i don't doubt he did some abusive things like his father taught him. age and different partnership and life humbles you a bit. His son killed himself ffs..that will bring you down big time.
When you choose to have kids, you have to accept all the potential scenarios. You may divorce their mother/father and have to battle for custody. You may not be the parent you thought you would be. You may not be able to handle your child's idiosyncrasies or mental illness. You may not be able to relate to your child as deeply as you hoped. You may not be a happy family. If you are willing to take that gamble, consider it based on the potential losses, just as you would if you were gambling on a horse or football game with your life savings (though at least with sports, the odds are quantifiable). Yes, Kurt became someone his father could be proud of. But he suffered. And his father suffered in his own way. This is not a game you want to play simply because it's "the thing to do".
it's true, you shouldn't have children in a superficial way or because they happen ... it takes a lot of effort to create a family and being a parent means dedicating oneself to the children, putting oneself aside. they made a mistake with kurt, both he and his mother, they created a very strong trauma that he could not compensate with anything. he was a sensitive man, which doesn't mean weak or stupid, but I see they want to pass him off like that
@@annalou9176 most people have kids when theyre still kids and there is little thought put into what having a child will entail, this will never stop tho unless we figure out how to significantly extend our lifespans and our fertility period because it's nature saying you better hurry up and have the kid before it's biologically too late.
After seeing interviews from both of his parents, I just find it odd how much more shit Kurt spoke of his father than his mother. His father seems like a pretty humble guy. But his mother seems like a very caustic person. She even kicked Kurt out after he'd dropped out of high school, then she had the audacity to hop on his money train with Courtney. Meanwhile Kurt kept saying "fuck my dad" in certain interviews. Seems irrational and childish. Maybe things would have changed had he lived.
i think a lot of what kurt said was true but some of it wasnt (as with most things he said), but i also think Don has mellowed a lot since Kurt's death, he certainly seems very regretful about the way he treated him
I'm sure it also helps they have all have had a long time to think about their own actions, miss him, and I'm sure forgive him. I say forgive him bc no one perfect. especially as a teenager. So, his dad may be coming from a more spiritually grown individual. Didn't hear his mom's interview but it seem his dad had a bad home and didn't have the best tools with Kurt.
You can hear that Kurt’s father has replayed “what ifs” a lot. I hope he gets to make peace with things. We can never turn back time. Things played out exactly as they did and Kurt is often heralded as the Lennon of the 90’s. I hope one day he gets to focus in his head on the greatness his son achieved. I wouldn’t want to be in his father’s shoes, with millions seeing me as a bad guy.
Don is a good guy. People give him a bad rap because Kurt said some shit. I think Kurt was confused. Don just wanted what was best for Kurt. Wendy wanted what was best for her. Accepted child support from Don while Kurt was living at friends. Different men in and out. And she bad mouths don. I know as a child from divorce, One of the hardest things a child has to endure in a divorce situation is listening to one parent badmouth the other
Both Don and Wendy didn't care about Kurt when he was a teenager and just wanted love. You 🤡. They are awful.You are apparently the same as them, since you justify them! You're an !diot
I like Kurt’s Gramps Leland the best! He welcomed Kurt to stay with him any time he wanted! Kurt’s Dad and Mom I’m not impressed with. They appear to have given up on him and kicked him out of the House. Maybe he was difficult but he was also angry about the divorce. That hurt him and he acted out because of it. He went from a happy kid to an angry kid almost overnight. I know from my own parents divorce how much emotional pain it caused me. I no longer cared about school and let my grades drop. I almost didn’t finish high school because of their divorce. It really messed me up emotionally. So I can relate to the pain of divorce in a family. He ended up a runaway.
True, why give up on a child when he's difficult ...if parents gave up so will the environment all around him will break easily ...he felt unloved abandoned unimportant suddenly and the pain confusion rejection lasted more than a decade before he died
drugs killed kurt, not his parents. I mean parents gettin divorced is a standard issue. and he was special, I mean, he was not a regular guy. He had a gift.
At last some people debating all this nonesense that the "master mind criminal" ploter Courtney Love killed him. Fuck the morbid and "unsolved mysteries" documentaries. RoboTube is right, and drugs amplified all Kurt's darkness and inner feelings that made him feel like shit. If Kurt never got into heroin since 1990 ( the real year he tried it acording to people close to him) probably never killed himself. We never know. Wev'e got the music and that's all that matters.
the real sad thing about this interview is Kurt and his Father never got to bury the hatchet and start over again as father and son . And there is no doubt in my mind Donald and Kurt would of been close in each others lives later on . so sad to see it never happen .
I think that it is coming from a father and a man who felt that his son was gonna do big things, he must of known that Kurt was very smart and talented even at a young age which he was. it is just a father that believes his child can do wonderful things, which most parents feel that way. and hope their child can do great things. he is not saying he knows what is gonna occur he just knew his son was vert talented.
My God looks just like Kurt, I mean this would be how Kurt would look as an old man.... It's sad, cuz I feel this would be him .... Those eyes...my God, exactly the same #GrungeisCobain #RipKC #Loveu4ever
+HDaviator i doubt a loving parent would forget the way their deceased child acted. These people are literally at a loss of words and the interview had just started. It was a simple question of how their son was as a person, and they could not even answer that. Saying that "people change" is like giving them an excuse for not knowing him at all
Most people look into Kurt Cobain's life way more than they should. He had the same problems we all have. He was a normal dude just like the rest of us. The only reason why people make him out to seem more interesting or "tortured" than he really was was because of the fact that he was in a band that sold millions of records and that's not something the average Joe just does. Other than that, the stupid "They never really knew Kurt" thing is blown out of proportion. Most parents never really do get to know their children through and through anyway, and with how fast Nirvana blew up, Kurt's parents wouldn't have been able to keep track of him with the amount of traveling he was doing. Stop romanticizing the guy's life as something out of a Lifetime movie. We all went through some of the same shit he did in his childhood, teens and adulthood. Most of us just aren't famous to be able to talk about it.
I get that vibe from his dad more than the mom. "There was no love in my family" His dad admits that he was brought up by a cold, stern father and was basically like that with Kurt. Those are the kind of fathers who leave all the bonding and "mushy stuff" to the mothers and would rather sit back and I dunno, do manly stuff. My dad was kind of like that with me. He would never want to go out to the movies with my sister and mom or go on outings as a family unless we were eating at a restaurant or something. He was always working or if he wasn't doing that, he'd just stay at home. Only time we bonded was over the tv, watching cartoons. Although, I wasn't born a boy (I'm trans btw). So maybe me being a girl had something to with the distance. I know that fathers sometimes find it harder to bond with daughters than with sons. Idk.
I have a conclusion after researchs. Kurt repressed his anger against his mother unlike to his father. Why. ? Because she and her family were more expressive emotional and supported him in Arts. Courtney is like his mother...when she gave him an ultimátum his biggest trauma came in to play. It was letal.
@@aminalka14 his mother kicked him out of the house over something i cant remember and courtney before he died had just participated in a tough love thing with kurt which im sure involved her saying if he didnt change she'd leave him. And in both cases each woman was acting like it was all only Kurt's fault when both had contributed to his behavioral choices, in fact im sure Courtney was on heroin when she demanded he stop heroin and his mother had married some horrible guy but acted like Kurt was the only bad one.
the way everyone defends his shitty parents make me sick, damn. like, if Kurt couldn't stand his own father it was for a certain reason, he knew his father more than everyone. and he was right, Donald was evil and still is.
@@janecarolbaldivia1430 it's in the book (heavier than heaven) his dad came to his house a couple times but he pretended he wasnt there because he was embarrassed of his herion habit.
I am sad to say that it is simply ideas which are behind families being destroyed! I'm ecstatic to say that simply better ideas can save families and help them be happy! Ideas about what men should be like or what marriages should be like, help to shape people unless they get exposed to other models which are healthier. Obviously women have these same problems with role models. Don seemed to have had issues with expressing love, and his wife Wendy in another video said "Don never said encouraging words" that she was beautiful or that he loved her, etc. So she may have thought she was not loved and she divorced him. However he seemed like the nicest gentleman, who may just have been given a false idea about manhood from his father, and that father probably got the same thing from his father. But think how society as a whole sometimes seems to discourage men from being nice. First they are instructed "nice guys finish last". Great lesson there. Then they are encouraged to get all the sex they can... That another great sign of manhood..... so impressive. They are not encouraged to wait for the right person, as if a happy and faithful marriage was WORTH waiting for, [as women, up until lately, were encouraged to wait for the right man. She's now encouraged to grab all she can also, and if her birth control pills or uterine device fail her, she can simply cut out the offending baby, which causes many women immense grief]. Religions across the world have said that women are less valuable than men and have many ways of setting that idea out there. "Man came from God, and women came from man". Thanks religions for helping keep women in their lower places. Men in other countries have gone so far as to have the women's pleasure organ removed, her clitoris, so she never gets to experience orgasm. Jewish people for the longest time have helped to share their fabulous idea of cutting off a guys foreskin, which gives the women those cool NATURAL ridges that are added ARTIFICIALLY to condoms. Sometimes I think that the powers that be from ages ago, have been quite terrified of happy loving marriages and have conspired to take the pleasure out of marriage for women and for men. As we know families are the building blocks of strong societies... and if people are miserable and their kids are, well how much easier it is to sell them artificial fun, pornography, drugs, "being cool" , being rich, being "powerful", (ugh)and all the rest of things people do to find something so simple and that is acceptance and love. Why is Love a 4 letter word for too many people??? And how can Love be promoted as the best of joys in our world and what the world needs most of? Even God has become a "bad hombre" who actually would allow eternal torture of his children as if God could condone such an horrible idea. I think people create the hell right here on Earth.With better ideas, we could make Heaven on Earth just as Jesus said we could when he suggested his followers pray........"....Thy kingdom come on Earth, as it is in Heaven".
Don said that his side of the family wasn't loving. That explains quite a bit regarding the initial distance between him and Kurt. These dysfunctional cycles repeat themselves... but he should have tried harder. Kurt was his first born.
Guarantee you had Don and Wendy not gotten divorced Kurt would still be alive today. The divorce devastated him and caused all sorts of problems, from depression which led to seeking comfort in drugs, which was his downfall. Had he been in a stable, loving family growing up, he likely would have never ever touched heroin or chosen a person like Courtney Love to be with. He would have made better decisions.
He seems in regret for his faults as a father, Wendy looks like an ego self centered person. Kurt had a hard time with his boyfriends after the divorce.
The thing is Don give everything that he had and Wendy was the one who left him. Don doesn’t possess capacity for some things but Wendy was selfish and ruthless when she left him.
people say divorce can be bad on children and things but think if Kurts parents stayed together we might would never have nirvana. Kurt would probably still be alive but the world would have never felt nirvana.
I don't even want to comment. They (Don and Wendy) feel uncomfortable because of the camera and wrong attitude to their children. They are trying to find someone else to blame. Or find a reason to excuse themselves.
God, it’s so infuriating that people say that Kurt dad is "not so bad", "not bad", or even "good".Annoys🙄 .What would these people say if he beat, insulted and kicked them out of the house? I wish all those who are on the side of Kurt’s parents, those who say that they need to be forgiven, to live with such abusive people for 18 years.🤬🤬🤬😤
I feel bad for Don. Like he said he was raised in a family with no love. You carry that with you. But I see a sensitive, softspoken man behind that. Much like Kurt. What a shame that they couldn't have figured out how to have a better relatiobship when Kurt was alive. Thats how it goes though.
Idk, it takes simple emotional intelligence to not default to abusive behavior with your own children. Belt, verbal abuse ect. Is too much and doesn't teach a child "discipline" at all. Using the older generation as an excuse to hit your own is poor.
Try to remember this is someone’s father. And no matter how bad one might have it with one’s parents, there will always be mixed feelings. And you will always go back and forth, sometimes even second guessing yourself, constantly over analysing everything. I know because I had a similar father. But unlike Kurt Cobain, I lived past age twenty-seven and my dad and I finally reconciled and we made our peace with each other. The only person who has the right to judge his father is God and Kurt, and that’s it. None of us have that right. I am sure that this man probably regretted a lot. His story is not unlike millions of others.
Really? Cause they're still breathing. Nothing he did in 27 short years is enough. Living is winning, and dead is just dead. That's how it works, even in video games. lol
In Kurt's interview, after his dad married his step mom, he felt like he was the least importance on his father's list. But according to this interview, his second wife made him happy. Maybe Kurt was jealous because when Donald was with Wendy, he was stiff and strict. No normal child wants to see his father looks happier with another woman than his mother. Kurt also became more jealous when Chad was born.
wow stop. he wasn't jealous at all. the problem it's y'all drink everything Kurt's entourage said while we shouldn't. the only person we should to believe is Kurt and only him except when he trolled. nobody is a good source when it's about Kurt especially their parents. abusive parents will never tell they abused their children and that is what happened to kurt.
@@bagwiththezy excellent!! that's what I always say too !!! now that kurt is dead, he can't defend himself from any insinuation against him. while all his relatives do nothing but tarnish him and also exploit his enormous wealth. it's a real shame
I met his father (Kurt’s grandpa) in 2007 at his home. I went to the shop that Kurt bought his first guitar. The guy working there said he gets a lot of people coming to see the store(it’s not the original location but same store) we talked to him for awhile and he pulled out a phone book and showed us Leland Cobains phone number. They said he is a friendly guy and will talk to his grandsons fans. I called him and asked if wanted to meet somewhere for lunch. He told us to stop by his house. We probably talked for 2 hours. Extremely nice man and something I’ll never forget.
That's so rad. Memories to cherish for sure.
God is good. Repent and believe the gospel. Jesus Christ died for your sins and rose from the dead. You can be forgiven. You must be born again. There was a woman who had an alabaster box of very precious ointment and she poured it on the head of Jesus. We need to honour the King. The Lord God. ”that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.“
John 3:15 KJV. The Lord Jesus Christ. Repent means change, change from sin. Turn away from sin. Love and fear God. Call on the name of Jesus Christ. Draw nigh to God and he will draw nigh to you. He saved me. There is the lake of fire which is burning for eternity and there is heaven. I have eternal life in heaven because of what the Lord has done. Be ready for the day of judgement.
Watch the interview of the ex teacher of Kurt's. When Kurt got kicked out by his parents, Kurt lived on the teacher's couch for a year. He said what a good kid he was, did all the chores, polite, packed up his sleeping bag each day. The teacher said in that year he never heard once from either Kurt's mother or father.
Kids Future where can I watch that interview
they are doing some big media operations to muddy kurt and clear their conscience ... I wish there really was a god to do justice
I love the contrast. If I was Kurt, I’d never do a thing Don told me to do
@@lilyswal3682 Lamont Shillenger's interview can be found on Soaked in Bleach
When Kurt and Courtney lost custody of Frances because of the Vanity Fair article, both said they didn't want their parents to have custody. Show how great of a childhood they had.
Love how Don lets it out. It's as if he was waiting to talk to someone about Kurt
ye,id love to talk to him
Do you know that he beat Kurt? And do you love him after that?🤢🤡💩
@@urora._.111He's an absolute pos and a dead beat
Not sure why everyone is accusing him of "not knowing Kurt". You can tell by the look in his eyes, and the emotion and his voice that he realizes who Kurt was, and why his life played out the way it did. And he also is man enough to acknowledge & accept the somewhat negative roll he played in Kurt's life.
You look at Kurt's mother's interview and she is a blank slate. No emotion, no feeling. Just yammering on about how they were "best friends" when Kurt himself even said that was not the case.
Don Cobain seems like a truly sincere guy..
Cam Olson. Look at the death grip the poor guy has on the armrest of the chair he sits in.in fact in the film the camera man focused in on the arm rest his fingers release and the leather has dimpled from the pressure of him squeezing the chair. He is visually uncomfortable, clearly deep in thought as his wife spoke about Kirk. Definate look of sadness .. And sadly li dont think he was raised with love, and may not have been emotionaly present for his kids...
Just very sad.
You can tell he regrets how his relation ship with Kurt played out....
He didn't know Kurt because Kurt was a reclusive loner who hid behind attention seeking bullshit. The dad regrets it but this is all partly Kurt's fault. People need to call teens out for the way they're also responsible for teen/parent wars. The dad admits it and says "I could've been a better father", kurt played the victim until the very end.
Don Cobain was an asshole who physically and emotionally abused his son. If he feels guilty, then those feelings are justly deserved. Blame Kurt? Why is blaming the victim so popular?
I kinda agree with you
He seems so full of regrets ... you can see it in his eyes. (I had seen both parents interviews)... and his mother Never show ANY regrets, or sadness.
Eva Ragnarsson His mother really bothered me for the same reasons. She was all about pushing the Kurt Legacy where his dad seemed to talk more about his son. IMO, I think Wendy was not a good influence on her son’s life. His dad was flawed but he wanted Kurt to be better. His mom just didn’t seem to care and would kick him out whenever he acted up which was a cry for attention.
Because she's enjoying his money.
His mother has ties with the murderer
Dude Kurt would not want people talking shit about people he loved just saying he hated gossip
@@Ablequerq exactly, for the father's side financially it's like Kurt never existed.
I love how brutally honest he is, saying that he could have been a better father is a huge thing to say.
Notice how he never once said a bad word about Wendy?
I think he’s extremely proud of his son.
Unlike Wendy, who is constantly bad-mouthing Don and who initiated the divorce because the television told her there was more to life than being a wife and mother.
@@sageantone7291 u know her personaly? I believe they were both bad parents.
@@sageantone7291 but she would go on to marry a wife beater and have his kid after divorcing Don.
Totally different from Wendy's interview. She was dishonest and seemed to want to push a narrative
@@cgggg5988 she is much like CLove, that is why KC liked her.
the thing you have to remember is...imagine if you'd taken this guy to one side in 1970.
right, mr. cobain...your son is going to be a songwriting genius, and he's going to end up in the biggest band in the world. he's going to be one of the most famous people on the planet.
due to the particular idioscyncracies of the band that he's in, it's going to really connect with people, and they're going to feel a huge attachment to him.
then, at the height of his fame and success, and at the tender age of 27, he's going to shoot himself. although some people will believe that he was murdered, and there will be considerable debate about this.
then a few years later this thing called the internet is going to become popular.
then a few years after that this thing called youtube will be started.
then you will be interviewed for a film about your son, and it will be broadcast on youtube.
and people are going to be commenting on your interview, judging you on things you're doing now.
so make sure you're a good dad!
not really fair, is it?
Good comment dude... damn
Chris James Good outlook on that man
What a great comment. I was fully expecting this poor man to be shredded in the comments. Glad to see some sense. Seems like an average Joe to me.
First thing is he'd probably think your crazy right ? Same as if someone walked up to you today (1/1/18) & tried to convince you they're from the year 2065 & then tell you your future. Don't mean this in a bad way but it wouldn't make a difference. People are who they are. Don's not a bad guy.I know a couple people that aren't capable of expressing them self's emotionally because they were raised in an in unloving house them self. Sometimes the cycle continues & sometimes it's broken.
His mom was the real issue
The way he speaks, his pacing and enunciation, is so similar to Kurt.
That's where Kurt got his voice from.
It's also where his sister got her "you know" "i dont know" from
you mean his voice and like, temperament, like how he pauses and speaks in such a comforting demeanor, yes
Harshitaaa Aaaa I noticed he said "stuff like that" a couple of times, which was one of Kurt's oft repeated lines- even included it in "sliver" (mashed potatoes and stuff like that).
Specifically speech mannerisms
beautiful,, gets me teary
The next day Kurt phoned his father. They talked for over an hour, the longest conversation between the two Cobain men in over a decade. They discussed Iris and her prognosis-the doctors had sent her back to Montesano-and their respective families. Don said he wanted to see Frances, and Kurt proudly recited all the latest things she could say and do. As for their own strained relationship, they avoided reviewing their disappointments in each other, but Don was able to utter the words that many times earlier had eluded him. “I love you Kurt,” he told his son. “I love you too, Dad,” Kurt replied. At the end of the conversation, Kurt invited his father to come see his new house when he returned from tour. When Don hung up, it was one of the few times Jenny Cobain had ever seen her usually stoic husband weeping.
ㅡHeavier Than Heaven by Charles R. Cross
that book is full of lies
His wrestling coach sexually molested him, he remembered right after he went into the hospital. Obviously he wanted to not think about it, so he went home to shoot a Little bit of heroin. Yes two people got there not long after he did. Came up into the spare room he was in,grabbed him and gave him a fatal shot of heroin, killing him. He was already sedated because of what he already had taken, the legal stuff Plus the small bit of heroin. So, Yes Courtney Harrison ordered it to be done. She called Kurt's father to ask where if he had gone to his home. So then after knowing he was not there then she told the two men to go to the house he was staying in. He was about to get a divorce ordered. So she would not get any of the money. Yeah. Just the daughter deserved it. He had not even been allowed to keep that much of it because of his alleged "illness". Normal reactions to abnormal circumstances is not really an illness. I cannot believe those stupid cops actually thought someone can shoot themselves with a shotgun. Nope. Not possible. He didn't even Have a gun, truly. That is true. Says so in a song he wrote. Okay, have a great fucking day, people!!!!!
Yes he was shot After he was already most likely not going to come back from a coma anyhow. Horrific to this day, to me. My life was Already fucked. So I obviously took the case, mostly.
"I stand horrified" at the thought that anyone could think that it's okay to just say, oh well. Just move on!!! Children who are neglected emotionally and abused, no matter who did it. Are the Chosen. JESUS CHRIST is our protector for eternity, living and afterwards. Jesus saves, old age!!!! Imma definitely live into serious old age, healthy and knowing that Christ, and Kurt. Were the best friends I have Ever had!!!!!! I love you, God(Jesus). God bless Kurt Cobain in Heaven. YES, people. HEAVEN!!!!! jews don't get to say that God's real Chosen are evil!!!! NOT anymore! Enough! Is Enough!
@@nannyof2023 Ohh, Okay. I get it.. You are crazy.
Now I know where Kurt gets the `you know’ from
I'm sure they would have become closer if Kurt survived long enough to fully mature.
from what i've read, i highly doubt it. kurt was a very willful boy
@@stubadub2k Yea but as you age people mellow out some usually.
Mark G Totally agree. there’s no doubt Kurt and Courtney would have divorced and that would have been his reconnection to his father. It’s hard to raise a child, bond with your child when the other parent is working against you. Kurt would have matured and seen the complexities of his parents divorce. His dad was not perfect but it’s clear he loved his son and still feels the loss.
"I tried hard to have a father, but instead I had a dad"
Kurt had his father's eyes.
I like Don much better than Wendy.
I like both equally. Strange, just like Kurt, who was one of the most feminist artists of all time. God, he hated people who were biased against women. His comic painting of Mr.Moustache says it all.
There's a a lot of similarities with Wendy and Courtney
@@Mraquanetchris yeah except Wendy wasn't a junkie that tried taking advantage of Kurt.
yes,eyes and gentle talk
Kurt's mom is a deceiver, his dad seems much more normal.
Kurt had his eyes...its like watching Kurt grow old .. sad
very true if you look at pcitures of don when he was young, he and kurt look alike, because of the eyes.
Someone commented on that when his dad came to a show once.
Kurt had dons eyes and wendy's angular face shape/blond hair/complexion.....but you can see he was also soft-spoken like Don.
“You Know” seems like a staple with The Cobain’s
Beautiful to see the mellowness of Kurt in Don
interesting when don saw the artistic side of Kurt he knew he had talent and he would communicate with his son. when his mom saw that side she thought he was gay and she would ignore him.
Why is that interesting?
@@marksusername Interesting because of the contrast between the two.
@@danejurus69 Im wondering if thats what Brad Justin meant by that
Don bullied him
the montage of heck documentary was one of the most well put together documentaries ive ever seen. truly shows just how tragic kurts life was. you can tell his father truly cares for him. such a sad story.
It's fn horrible and inaccurate and the reason Don will not speak to anyone
@@easilyoffended7772 agreed it had pros and too many cons
he seems so full of regret it's sad. what becomes obvious from both don and especially Wendy's interviews is how much they still resent each other. Kurt got his dad's looks
What?!!! Kurt was fucking gorgeous and sexy as a mf’er this dudes not good looking damn!! What y’all on anyway?? Lmao. Gets his looks from his dad my ass! No fucking way!!
@@ginamorrison2829 he's like 70 years old here. you're delusional if you think kurt would be good looking at 70. he'd have to change his lifestyle 180 degrees and even then he'd still be 70 and dealing with wrinkles and saggy skin. his dad may be a bad guy, he may not be, but he doesn't look horrible for his age.
@@ginamorrison2829
You are aware that people age, aren't you? Old people who haven't had $500,000 worth of plastic surgery look like the guy in the video. Another dumb millennial.
Gina Morrison If you saw home videos you would very much see the similarities. Like the other replies, you really think Kurt would look like his 25 year old self at 53? Get real!
@@ginamorrison2829 I'm ashamed that you and my mother share the same name
I feel bad for Don. From what I've heard and seen, he was a more loving parent than Wendy. The sad thing is that Kurt died before he had a chance to mature enough to reconcile with his dad. I'm just guessing but it happened to me and my dad. For most of my 20's and my early 30s, I hated my dad. Then I grew up and realized that he was a human being. Yes, he made some mistakes but so does everybody. I realized everything he did, he did ou t of love. Nobody's perfect.
You are mistaken
He says "stuff like that" a lot. So did Kurt.
Mashed potatoes and stuff like that
@@jlouis4407 was just going to comment this 😂
Kurts dad, sister, and himself say "you know"'a lot
That's none of your business you know.
Tell Em!
Rick Grimes
You know they really do 😎👍
@@jeepers10710 lol
I admire his honesty, I knew he went through some shit as a child too, they always do and carry it through to the next, but he's at least explaining his background..we all have to learn and heal from these crazy experiences we don't ask for....
lovely
*Stop making excuses for the abuser*
I like it how he acknowledges that his son was a genius and ahead of his time
Imagine trying to explain what kind of kid your son was 40 years ago in a 10 minute interview. What can you really say. He was a shy kid or he was an outgoing kid. Or I remember this one time we went camping. What can you really say
Lol fr
yes and truth is no one ever dreamed he'd go on to be a professional entertainer much less the biggest one in the world so they dont have memories of watching him develop his skills or elucidate his dreams of the future...they never knew theyd be expected to have amazing stories from his childhood.
Don seems really chilled. The way Wendy spoke of him seems impossible. Either he changed massively or she has exaggerated the truth. She does seem a bit cunning. Don just doesn't seem to have it in him. He comes across as fairly average, almost monotone. Cant see him going into any kind of rage episodes or anything else emotional. Just goes with the flow.
What a Beautiful Magical voice, takes me to heaven ✨ thank you for passing th genes 🌺✨ #GrungeIsCobain #MissYouKurt
So after reading persistent comments that Kurt looked like his dad I decided to google Don Cobain young and wow yes everyone is absolutely right, he definitely took after his father, especially the eyes, the Cobain eye gene is strong, just look at Frances! I love you Kurt, happy belated birthday!!
Kurt got his eyes from his dad and the way this poor guy is grasping the arm of the chair in an attempt not to show his tears is heartbreaking...I think he mourns Kurt every day and that he feels an enormous sadness
Disappointing. Brett Morgen had this unique chance to let us listen to people who knew Kurt Cobain. Instead he seems really unskilled at bringing out pertinent details from those who knew Kurt. Really too bad because all these people have personal experiences with this fascinating person we'd all like to know better. They seem awkward rather than relaxed and flowing from an experienced interviewer, like Off Camera with Sam Jones who actually relates to the people and lets them talk freely, thus revealing interesting tidbits. Instead we learn next to nothing new we didn't know before the interview. :>\
Elena Reed well said
Yes, and that's why "About a son" (2006) is way better documentary than "Montage of Heck". The only atractive thing that "Montage.. has is the Nirvana material and some great footage and animations. But it's so intrusive and boring for moments, specially the Courtney Kurt videotapes. The only interviews that i think matters was Novoselic and Marander. "About a son" is less hyperbolic, more sincere and gives a sensible aproach of Kurt's life.
Elena Reed this documentary was disappointing and you’re totally right. The interview was awkward and could have been more insightful with better questions.
Just read "Come As You Are" by Michael Azzerad. It's the best Nirvana bio there is. Straight from Kurts mouth as the author interviewed the band extensively.
Right. Just generic questions.
Montage Of Heck really made Don look like a horrible dad and made wendy always seem sunshine and rainbows. For example, Wendy when talking about Aberdeen in the movie said 'My kids loved that town.' It takes a singular braincell to know Kurt didn't like Aberdeen.
Wendy got profit from Kurt and practically never felt guilty about anything with Kurt. Hell when Kurt got his first paycheck for Nevermind Wendy made Kurt pay her 10k.
While you have Don who still to this day every day feels constant guilt about the things that happened with kurt and genuinely feels bad. Don also practically gets zero profit from Kurt, much unlike Wendy
i think alot of the stuff , ie the way Don kobain treated his wife , no gifts, no I love you, no compliments really caused a deep hurt that wounded and the domino effect echoed into Kurt, it was this that caused a huge void in Kurt's psyche, hence the divorce was the last straw. kids learn from their parents, they also obtain coping mechanisms from them as well.
I know where Kurt got the classic "ya know" from. I do it too lol.
His voice almost sounds like Kurt
I'm glad I got to see the whole thing. I wish they didn't edit this stuff out of movies.
@2:40 You can hear pain in his voice when he says that maybe Kurt was changed by his father going back on his promise to never get married again.
You can see the regret in his eyes. His voice.
He wasn’t a good father, but you can see he regrets the way he approached Kurt.
While Don could have been a better husband/father, it sounds like he had some past trauma from his own childhood preventing that. He claims his parents never showed him love, meaning Don probably had no idea to show love to someone else.
Seems more sincere and real than his mom
They are so similar with Kurt. Eyes, nose, lips, the way how he talk
Maturing is realizing that Don was actually a good guy
Everyone deserves a second chance, I wish he had his to reconnect
*No. How can you write something like that? He beat Kurt! How can you call a man who beats children a good guy?!!!wth!?*
@@Splandrocityyou 🤡🤦🏼♀️
@@urora._.111 I don't recall reading that in any of the biographies. Cursory google search doesn't show any accusations of beatings. They were estranged for other reasons
His dad seems really nice and soft spoken. Doesn't come off like the guy Kurt and his Mom describes him as...
his father was abusive and i don't doubt he did some abusive things like his father taught him. age and different partnership and life humbles you a bit. His son killed himself ffs..that will bring you down big time.
Amazing how much has changed in 2 generations
When you choose to have kids, you have to accept all the potential scenarios. You may divorce their mother/father and have to battle for custody. You may not be the parent you thought you would be. You may not be able to handle your child's idiosyncrasies or mental illness. You may not be able to relate to your child as deeply as you hoped. You may not be a happy family. If you are willing to take that gamble, consider it based on the potential losses, just as you would if you were gambling on a horse or football game with your life savings (though at least with sports, the odds are quantifiable). Yes, Kurt became someone his father could be proud of. But he suffered. And his father suffered in his own way. This is not a game you want to play simply because it's "the thing to do".
it's true, you shouldn't have children in a superficial way or because they happen ...
it takes a lot of effort to create a family and being a parent means dedicating oneself to the children, putting oneself aside. they made a mistake with kurt, both he and his mother, they created a very strong trauma that he could not compensate with anything. he was a sensitive man, which doesn't mean weak or stupid, but I see they want to pass him off like that
@@annalou9176 most people have kids when theyre still kids and there is little thought put into what having a child will entail, this will never stop tho unless we figure out how to significantly extend our lifespans and our fertility period because it's nature saying you better hurry up and have the kid before it's biologically too late.
After seeing interviews from both of his parents, I just find it odd how much more shit Kurt spoke of his father than his mother. His father seems like a pretty humble guy. But his mother seems like a very caustic person. She even kicked Kurt out after he'd dropped out of high school, then she had the audacity to hop on his money train with Courtney. Meanwhile Kurt kept saying "fuck my dad" in certain interviews. Seems irrational and childish. Maybe things would have changed had he lived.
mother's have a way of brainwashing kids when it comes t o there father's plus more you ignore someone and are a jerk to them the more they like you
i think a lot of what kurt said was true but some of it wasnt (as with most things he said), but i also think Don has mellowed a lot since Kurt's death, he certainly seems very regretful about the way he treated him
if you love someone a lot youre going to be very mad at them if they cross you. its because he was upset. his mom was not too great to him.
I'm sure it also helps they have all have had a long time to think about their own actions, miss him, and I'm sure forgive him. I say forgive him bc no one perfect. especially as a teenager. So, his dad may be coming from a more spiritually grown individual. Didn't hear his mom's interview but it seem his dad had a bad home and didn't have the best tools with Kurt.
kurt only said that becouse he was a feminist he used to thunk that girls have to govern the world and all that things...
You can hear that Kurt’s father has replayed “what ifs” a lot. I hope he gets to make peace with things. We can never turn back time. Things played out exactly as they did and Kurt is often heralded as the Lennon of the 90’s. I hope one day he gets to focus in his head on the greatness his son achieved. I wouldn’t want to be in his father’s shoes, with millions seeing me as a bad guy.
He's the bad guy !Stop making excuses for the abuser
Apparently everyone in Aberdeen, Washington says "you know" a lot
Fuiste?
Don is a good guy. People give him a bad rap because Kurt said some shit. I think Kurt was confused. Don just wanted what was best for Kurt. Wendy wanted what was best for her. Accepted child support from Don while Kurt was living at friends. Different men in and out. And she bad mouths don. I know as a child from divorce, One of the hardest things a child has to endure in a divorce situation is listening to one parent badmouth the other
Stoney McGee you got me at the badmouthing part
Stoney McGee bravo!
Both Don and Wendy didn't care about Kurt when he was a teenager and just wanted love. You 🤡. They are awful.You are apparently the same as them, since you justify them! You're an !diot
Sounds like Don had a rough childhood. Shit roles down hill. You can tell he misses his son and is proud of him.
I like Kurt’s Gramps Leland the best!
He welcomed Kurt to stay with him any time he wanted! Kurt’s Dad and Mom I’m not impressed with. They appear to have given up on him and kicked him out of the House. Maybe he was difficult but he was also angry about the divorce. That hurt him and he acted out because of it. He went from a happy kid to an angry kid almost overnight. I know from my own parents divorce how much emotional pain it caused me. I no longer cared about school and let my grades drop. I almost didn’t finish high school because of their divorce. It really messed me up emotionally. So I can relate to the pain of divorce in a family. He ended up a runaway.
True, why give up on a child when he's difficult ...if parents gave up so will the environment all around him will break easily ...he felt unloved abandoned unimportant suddenly and the pain confusion rejection lasted more than a decade before he died
He's not a toy robot or Barbie doll.
Dude it's just a divorce grow some balls.
I feel sorry for Don. They had made plans to reconnect after the European tour in 1994.
kurt was a slave to a very powerful drug, nothing would have gone well as long as he stayed on it.
drugs killed kurt, not his parents. I mean parents gettin divorced is a standard issue. and he was special, I mean, he was not a regular guy. He had a gift.
courtney killed kurt. didn't you watch soaked in bleach yet
Oh sweet Jesus, will you people just die FFS?!
drugs didn't kill kurt. courtney hired someone to kill him for his money. interesting spin on reality courney.
David Anderson You know your Right
At last some people debating all this nonesense that the "master mind criminal" ploter Courtney Love killed him. Fuck the morbid and "unsolved mysteries" documentaries. RoboTube is right, and drugs amplified all Kurt's darkness and inner feelings that made him feel like shit. If Kurt never got into heroin since 1990 ( the real year he tried it acording to people close to him) probably never killed himself. We never know. Wev'e got the music and that's all that matters.
Omg kurt looked so much like his dad
I can hear Kurt’s voice in his, soft and gentle too.
the real sad thing about this interview is Kurt and his Father never got to bury the hatchet and start over again as father and son . And there is no doubt in my mind Donald and Kurt would of been close in each others lives later on . so sad to see it never happen .
drugs were the true culprit
It usually does I made amends with Dad, I wish I saw him again before he passed but I forgive him for being a not great Dad but he tried his best
No No No NO Terrible parents don't deserve forgiveness !
I think that it is coming from a father and a man who felt that his son was gonna do big things, he must of known that Kurt was very smart and talented even at a young age which he was. it is just a father that believes his child can do wonderful things, which most parents feel that way. and hope their child can do great things. he is not saying he knows what is gonna occur he just knew his son was vert talented.
God ! How many times he says "You know!" ?
My God looks just like Kurt, I mean this would be how Kurt would look as an old man.... It's sad, cuz I feel this would be him .... Those eyes...my God, exactly the same
#GrungeisCobain #RipKC #Loveu4ever
Man the last line broke me 😢
There he is... "Mr. Moustache" (an older and more humble version of him I guess).
Don is not who the song is based off of.
Kurt was the one that got Bullied in school Not the other way round😪💔💔💔
Peace & Love💜💗🖤👑
He feel sorry for not doing better for his sun
Even the way Don and Kurt talk is the same
It's sad to watch this... our parents are just victims of their own childhoods too ☹
Wendy injected into Kurt hate for his father, now Courtney does the same thing with Francis.
It's so odd to see the familial resemblance in the face and mannerisms
For some reason i also seem to mind when people ask me to do stuff...
PAINFUL 😦
Watching the interviews of both his parents i realize that they never really knew him at all :/
And you did? lol. You realize people change. They probably knew the kid, but the adult was obviously not the same person.
+HDaviator i doubt a loving parent would forget the way their deceased child acted. These people are literally at a loss of words and the interview had just started. It was a simple question of how their son was as a person, and they could not even answer that. Saying that "people change" is like giving them an excuse for not knowing him at all
Most people look into Kurt Cobain's life way more than they should. He had the same problems we all have. He was a normal dude just like the rest of us. The only reason why people make him out to seem more interesting or "tortured" than he really was was because of the fact that he was in a band that sold millions of records and that's not something the average Joe just does. Other than that, the stupid "They never really knew Kurt" thing is blown out of proportion. Most parents never really do get to know their children through and through anyway, and with how fast Nirvana blew up, Kurt's parents wouldn't have been able to keep track of him with the amount of traveling he was doing. Stop romanticizing the guy's life as something out of a Lifetime movie. We all went through some of the same shit he did in his childhood, teens and adulthood. Most of us just aren't famous to be able to talk about it.
I get that vibe from his dad more than the mom. "There was no love in my family" His dad admits that he was brought up by a cold, stern father and was basically like that with Kurt. Those are the kind of fathers who leave all the bonding and "mushy stuff" to the mothers and would rather sit back and I dunno, do manly stuff.
My dad was kind of like that with me. He would never want to go out to the movies with my sister and mom or go on outings as a family unless we were eating at a restaurant or something. He was always working or if he wasn't doing that, he'd just stay at home. Only time we bonded was over the tv, watching cartoons. Although, I wasn't born a boy (I'm trans btw). So maybe me being a girl had something to with the distance. I know that fathers sometimes find it harder to bond with daughters than with sons. Idk.
fuck off pat
I have a conclusion after researchs. Kurt repressed his anger against his mother unlike to his father. Why. ? Because she and her family were more expressive emotional and supported him in Arts. Courtney is like his mother...when she gave him an ultimátum his biggest trauma came in to play. It was letal.
What kind of ultimatum?
@@aminalka14 Divorce.
@@aminalka14 his mother kicked him out of the house over something i cant remember and courtney before he died had just participated in a tough love thing with kurt which im sure involved her saying if he didnt change she'd leave him. And in both cases each woman was acting like it was all only Kurt's fault when both had contributed to his behavioral choices, in fact im sure Courtney was on heroin when she demanded he stop heroin and his mother had married some horrible guy but acted like Kurt was the only bad one.
Kurt tried hard to have a father but instead he had a dad.
I had to watch this video of Don to understand a bit more of Kurt. Things start to make sense. In the end, we´re all victims, and survivors.
the way everyone defends his shitty parents make me sick, damn. like, if Kurt couldn't stand his own father it was for a certain reason, he knew his father more than everyone. and he was right, Donald was evil and still is.
Im glad they didnt end on a bad note and had some good conversations in the end of Kurt's life..
Can you share me link on document mentioning Kurt talked to his dad a few weeks before his passing ? Thank you.
@@janecarolbaldivia1430 it's in the book (heavier than heaven) his dad came to his house a couple times but he pretended he wasnt there because he was embarrassed of his herion habit.
I find Montage of Heck hard to get through without welling up
He was holding on to this
I am sad to say that it is simply ideas which are behind families being destroyed! I'm ecstatic to say that simply better ideas can save families and help them be happy! Ideas about what men should be like or what marriages should be like, help to shape people unless they get exposed to other models which are healthier. Obviously women have these same problems with role models. Don seemed to have had issues with expressing love, and his wife Wendy in another video said "Don never said encouraging words" that she was beautiful or that he loved her, etc. So she may have thought she was not loved and she divorced him. However he seemed like the nicest gentleman, who may just have been given a false idea about manhood from his father, and that father probably got the same thing from his father. But think how society as a whole sometimes seems to discourage men from being nice. First they are instructed "nice guys finish last". Great lesson there. Then they are encouraged to get all the sex they can... That another great sign of manhood..... so impressive. They are not encouraged to wait for the right person, as if a happy and faithful marriage was WORTH waiting for, [as women, up until lately, were encouraged to wait for the right man. She's now encouraged to grab all she can also, and if her birth control pills or uterine device fail her, she can simply cut out the offending baby, which causes many women immense grief]. Religions across the world have said that women are less valuable than men and have many ways of setting that idea out there. "Man came from God, and women came from man". Thanks religions for helping keep women in their lower places. Men in other countries have gone so far as to have the women's pleasure organ removed, her clitoris, so she never gets to experience orgasm. Jewish people for the longest time have helped to share their fabulous idea of cutting off a guys foreskin, which gives the women those cool NATURAL ridges that are added ARTIFICIALLY to condoms. Sometimes I think that the powers that be from ages ago, have been quite terrified of happy loving marriages and have conspired to take the pleasure out of marriage for women and for men. As we know families are the building blocks of strong societies... and if people are miserable and their kids are, well how much easier it is to sell them artificial fun, pornography, drugs, "being cool" , being rich, being "powerful", (ugh)and all the rest of things people do to find something so simple and that is acceptance and love. Why is Love a 4 letter word for too many people??? And how can Love be promoted as the best of joys in our world and what the world needs most of? Even God has become a "bad hombre" who actually would allow eternal torture of his children as if God could condone such an horrible idea. I think people create the hell right here on Earth.With better ideas, we could make Heaven on Earth just as Jesus said we could when he suggested his followers pray........"....Thy kingdom come on Earth, as it is in Heaven".
Kinda ghostly hearing Kurt’s voice inflections in his father.
He loved his son.
Don said that his side of the family wasn't loving. That explains quite a bit regarding the initial distance between him and Kurt. These dysfunctional cycles repeat themselves... but he should have tried harder. Kurt was his first born.
Guarantee you had Don and Wendy not gotten divorced Kurt would still be alive today. The divorce devastated him and caused all sorts of problems, from depression which led to seeking comfort in drugs, which was his downfall. Had he been in a stable, loving family growing up, he likely would have never ever touched heroin or chosen a person like Courtney Love to be with. He would have made better decisions.
Kurt Cobain was the kid that found some of dB Cooper's money on the river bank
he sold his step father's guns
He seems in regret for his faults as a father, Wendy looks like an ego self centered person. Kurt had a hard time with his boyfriends after the divorce.
The thing is Don give everything that he had and Wendy was the one who left him. Don doesn’t possess capacity for some things but Wendy was selfish and ruthless when she left him.
people say divorce can be bad on children and things but think if Kurts parents stayed together we might would never have nirvana. Kurt would probably still be alive but the world would have never felt nirvana.
I don't even want to comment. They (Don and Wendy) feel uncomfortable because of the camera and wrong attitude to their children. They are trying to find someone else to blame. Or find a reason to excuse themselves.
RIGHT ? i thought I was the only one who noticed their hypocrisy.
Sweet bloke
And stuff like that & everything. They talked alike
God, it’s so infuriating that people say that Kurt dad is "not so bad", "not bad", or even "good".Annoys🙄 .What would these people say if he beat, insulted and kicked them out of the house? I wish all those who are on the side of Kurt’s parents, those who say that they need to be forgiven, to live with such abusive people for 18 years.🤬🤬🤬😤
Def can see kurts smile in don..or visa versa
I feel bad for Don. Like he said he was raised in a family with no love. You carry that with you. But I see a sensitive, softspoken man behind that. Much like Kurt. What a shame that they couldn't have figured out how to have a better relatiobship when Kurt was alive. Thats how it goes though.
Idk, it takes simple emotional intelligence to not default to abusive behavior with your own children. Belt, verbal abuse ect. Is too much and doesn't teach a child "discipline" at all. Using the older generation as an excuse to hit your own is poor.
Omg Kurts demeanour is so much his dad.
Chad looks so much like his Dad now.
He has a good heart. He just has issues. Kurt is just like him. That's why he knows Kurt...
Kurt wasn't the first in the Cobain family who killed himself, allot of depressions and stuff like that in that family, think its genetic,
I'm tired of disliking you🙄Stop making excuses for the abuser
Try to remember this is someone’s father. And no matter how bad one might have it with one’s parents, there will always be mixed feelings. And you will always go back and forth, sometimes even second guessing yourself, constantly over analysing everything. I know because I had a similar father. But unlike Kurt Cobain, I lived past age twenty-seven and my dad and I finally reconciled and we made our peace with each other. The only person who has the right to judge his father is God and Kurt, and that’s it. None of us have that right. I am sure that this man probably regretted a lot. His story is not unlike millions of others.
Well... he did better then his own folks.
Really? Cause they're still breathing. Nothing he did in 27 short years is enough. Living is winning, and dead is just dead. That's how it works, even in video games. lol
Yeah you know
In Kurt's interview, after his dad married his step mom, he felt like he was the least importance on his father's list. But according to this interview, his second wife made him happy. Maybe Kurt was jealous because when Donald was with Wendy, he was stiff and strict. No normal child wants to see his father looks happier with another woman than his mother. Kurt also became more jealous when Chad was born.
wow stop. he wasn't jealous at all. the problem it's y'all drink everything Kurt's entourage said while we shouldn't. the only person we should to believe is Kurt and only him except when he trolled. nobody is a good source when it's about Kurt especially their parents. abusive parents will never tell they abused their children and that is what happened to kurt.
@@bagwiththezy excellent!! that's what I always say too !!! now that kurt is dead, he can't defend himself from any insinuation against him. while all his relatives do nothing but tarnish him and also exploit his enormous wealth. it's a real shame
@@annalou9176 i feel bad for him, even in his death his entourage sees him as a cash cow. i would be angry at his place...
@@bagwiththezy true ç_ç
He didn't talk about going to that show and leaving him at Grandpa Joe's
Definitely could of been a better father never give your kids the cold shoulder
He hardly contains his tears