@@biz09ification one minute it’s Jordan next minute it’s LeBron one minute Jordan is the Greatest next minute Jordan was a terrible basketball player. I say like who you like without bitterness towards someone else and if you (not you just saying in general) don’t like that players style of play just enjoy the team or players you like. Pippen be trippin’
@@h0llyw00dhoward7 it’s not just about championships 😂😂 Jordan was the best player in the world for 10 years with a shit team around him you can’t win a title with one great player. And those stupid one liners y’all try to use like “iLl wAiT” and “pErIoD” don’t make u any more right
@@ramohnalez3725only arguement yall MJ fans have is rings which is a team accomplishment. We’re talking g about individuals here so to bring up a group accomplishment is kinda weird. But to bring up that Lebron goat james is ahead of MJ is every statistic other than scoring is legit. Lebron James is a better all around player than MJ and it’s without a doubt
Right like it's special. Many guys go 6 rings & all of them didn't quit 2x"s w/o injury..& then came back to stat pad & no playoffs...hell he only played 13/14 total years...sorry I don't hv mj amnesia it's like a pandemic...& he needed Daddie PHILL to show him how..bo rings w/o Phill & got his butt kicked by magic 5rings, bird 3, & even Isiah back to back...if LBJ had a young wade or Kyrie for 8yrs lvj wud hv at least 7rings.
LBJ"s career is his & always had to grind as owners were not gonna let him compete vs Mike their shoe boy & money maker...talk abt colusion's...billionaires are control freaks, esp with the refs..if lbj was favored hed hv 10 rings. 25% plausible & 75% facts...
@@drk.i.a.2969you knock MJ for having a coach that allowed him to iso in triangle offense.... losing to the two best players before him in toughest era and when East was beast... Yet then say IF LEBRON had Kyrie and dwade hed have 7....... You can't make this shit up. Give MJ Kyrie and dwade in LeBron era....he still wouldn't have lost finals, been 6 time MVP and got more rings especially if he didn't retire. The rules work to his advantage in this era bruh. Less physical. Weakest defense. Im a 80s baby I seem them both. It's not close at all to what MJ did.
There's no emotional damage for a guy who wants to be the GOAT & is losing. Imagine getting a high scoring title...only against teams that are losing worst than the Lakers 🤣All the other GOAT contenders were finding ways to keep winning. LeBron flops more than just for fouls.
What? 😂 How about scoring titles? How about DPOY? How about all first team defensive selections? How about highest regular season and playoffs scoring average in NBA history? But sure, its the finals mvps that make a difference 😂
@@MeemXDXD5 Why do y’all think Michael Jordan deserves to be treated better than he treats people. Isn’t it the same Michael Jordan that punched several lesser teammates in the face in practice? It’s not Salty it’s Karma💀💀
Sam Jones won 10 championships and you've probably never heard of that name before 😂 that just means that Mj is the goat because of skill AND championships
It’s so funny that Stephen A says “what does Lebron do that you couldn’t do?” And doesn’t realize that he just said JORDAN LITERALLY HAD A LEBRON ON HIS TEAM while winning those 6 chips and finals MVP’s. Jordan didn’t win ANYTHING until he got Pippen. That in itself should be enough to always have a reasonable debate about who’s the best/greatest
@@czvvs3369 nice try bro Pippen finished 3rd in MVP voting that year and took the bulls to 55 wins and a second round loss. The bulls wins FIFTY FIVE GAMES without Jordan and Pippen got further without Jordan than Jordan ever did without Pippen. TRY AGAIN BUD 😂😂😂😂
Mhm, MJ came into a bum bulls in one of the strongest East ever. Lebron came into a mediocre Cavs in the weakest East ever only to not even sniff the playoffs 🥱 Stop overating pippen dude was a bench player until Mj kept him onto his pocket 😆
@@czvvs3369Did Jordan win a championship when Pippin wasn't there ? No Did Jordan win a championship when he was at Washington? No Also, Pippin had 6 titles too
@@Arthurcollins. You acting like NBA isn't a goddamned team game. Fans like you see things so individually it's funny. Losing finals only means you are bad if you had bad numbers. Losing finals with good numbers just means your TEAM was just not as good
@@AbekrampeMJ played 15 years quit twice to play baseball and had a HOF coach and teammate his whole back half of his career to win titles, yall just don’t give Pippen and those other guys enough credit because it takes away from MJ. Remember that Team was a championship team but got screwed when MJ went to play baseball. Yall forget that Bulls team was SOLID and competing without MJ. Not a single team LeBron played for did a single thing after him matter of fact a single season without him they dropped to being one of the worst teams in NBA History and the League. MJ also played in a league with less teams and less talent, taking more shots than anyone else in the league by a LARGE margin, cried to the Comish when the Pistons and other teams came up with ways of stopping him and he CRIED when he lost so they made up fake ass rules to help him out and allowing him to have his own way. MJ was toxic asf, pissed all over his teammates and opponents and had very little respect for others.
@@shaneyafanaroLebron isnt as disrespectful but he is definitely a baby. Pistons were intentionally injuring people its better for the league that those things were implemented. What about lebron: flopping, massive free point differentials in his favor, play in tournament introduced. Lebron using his status to build teams and force contracts. Everything you can criticise MJ for, you can criticise Lebron for.
He is ahead on stats and has been for awhile. Cumulative stats are a testament to his longevity and taking care of his body. Not to being the best player
When we talking about the greatest shouldn't longevity matter? Its extremely hard to play at a high level as long as lebron did. If it was easy anyone could do it
@@relaxingaura4395any of those old greats could do it with the physicality level of the NBA during LeBron’s run. There is no physical defense. No “getting punished” every time you go inside. It’s literally a boy’s game now when it used to be a man’s game. The ratings speak for themselves.
@@RKYJHAIRSTUDIOS that's true but I also think you underestimate lebron's intelligence. He knew he couldn't be as physical as he used to be when he was younger because it will wear his body down, even if the league is less physical... so he adjusted his game to match the time. Why do u think at the age of 39 he's shooting 40 percent from the 3? He adapted to the game. Alot of greats couldn't do that the older they got. Longevity has more to do than just physicality
@@relaxingaura4395 he shoots that percentage because he is left wide open, and he’s been on PED’s since Miami. He didn’t adjust anything. The league is the weakest it’s ever been. He’s so smart that he can’t speak proper English, or proper sentences. This is the only era he’d be able to do this. Players, on average, are a lot smaller than they used to be. An example would be the fact that Karl Malone would break him in half. Let LeBron drive into the paint back then, and he’s getting smashed. The NBA purposely doesn’t call traveling, carrying, or offensive fouls on him for clearing out with his elbow. This happens on every drive he does. It’s obvious at this point. The NBA is trying to rig it for him to win, but he’s not good enough.
@@relaxingaura4395 not really. He should be applauded for his longevity but that does measure if you were better. Per game avg does. It took him more games to pass mj in scoring and magic in assist. He was very good in alot of thing but not the best at anything. Making him great but not the greatest. Especially at winning chips
@@squadric7722 Cavs fan, different era, different rules different ways. They played different positions, different height and weight. They're both superstars.
@@davidverlaney7764cool ...but both not goats. There Dan only be one. MJ is better. Going to win more and better chance of beating the best. LeBron not on Kobe level yet when the stats THAT MATTER are broken down correctly.
@@J-Bo-hr9zp I might be a little bit biased. 63 male and LeBron is the only one that won a championship for Cleveland fans since I've been alive. Plus, MJ beat my Cavs when they had price and Eli and all them. The Indian came close but always blew it. And I don't think I need to tell you what it's like to be a Cleveland Browns fan. But my buckeyes are usually good and have won a few. Take care.
How can SA even mention the 6tings 6 MVPs to the person who helped Jordan and not be ashamed? With out the right recipe Jordan would not have that 6 rings to win the goat debate
And that’s why he loses so much. He had to be the whole offense and that causes his teammates to be so out of rhythm since he controls the ball so much. Jordan actually allowed his teammates to play their position and he would focus on his, Jordan also allowed himself to be coached and that’s why he won as much as he did. Lebron wants so much credit that he loves the narrative that he’s never been privileged to have a great coach like an MJ or a magic but the truth is he had a great coach back in Miami but he wanted him fired the minute he got there.
@@miliciciweak argument.. This year and the one Lakers weak ass squad missed.. Was the only time they needed it.. And im sure they were resting lebron old ass and Davis was injured
Hey LeBron is just slightly behind MJ objectively and statistically don't say hes way behind Jordan or he'll never catch him if LeBron won the title this year he would be the goat
@@melvinhhcp3615 bro made it to the finals 10 times and won 4 it doesnt matter Jordan made it only 6 times LeBron made it 10 times, and MJ had so much help for his 6 finals and the times LeBron did he didn't always have the most help
@@alphamaster5455 I'm saying lbj been on superteams since 2010. He left his own team to go learn to win with someone else. Wade said they teamed up to stop Kobe, who is ranked lower than Jordan. So what exactly does this say about lbj?
Or just a logical person don’t watch basketball ball but …. Jordan was aspiring to be the best lebron was aspiring to be Jordan… who was first does matter in this situation
@@do.2808facts people are nostalgia-tied brainwashed goofies they talk about jorfraud like he was a god lebron has surpassed jorfraud and is now playing for the love of the game he dont have to prove nothing else
6 rings, (bron has 4) 6 finals mvps, (bron has 4) 5 regular season mvps, (bron has 4) a defensive player of the year (bron has none) 3x nba steals leader (bron also has none) and MJ is a 10 times scoring leader (the most we’ve ever seen) and bron has one. What are we talking about? It’s not close at all lmao
Da guy who had early success n deallt with physicality more in his conference also dabguy who knew how to win already compared to a guy who had to learn how to win n construct a team yeah mj da goat.
While I agree with you, let’s not be selective if you wanna use stats. Bron is king of accumulated stats so it’s a poor choice as proof. Bron’s 40k-11k-11k is future-proof. Nobody will ever touch that, kinda like 10x scoring titles and 6-0 finals record of MJ.
Mj played in the NBA for 14 Years including WHITE HOUSE WIZARDS, while Mr. LEBRON JAMES still playing for the NBA and its his 21'st ANNIVERSARY as an NBA SUPERSTAR and still Got it.
Still got what? Flops and crying? All he does is charge through players in the paint and throw up bricks from 3. Iv seen morbidly obese guys put in more effort on defense
@lethanielgangar7605 Indeed, whilst accolades are the biggest key factor in defining greatness, it's only 1 of the many things Michael Jordan did so much better than everyone else 👍 Also, there's nothing wrong with Lebron being in the top 15. That means he's one of the greatest ever, but we all know the undisputed G.O.A.T is Michael Jordan currently
40,000 points 11,000 boards and 11,000 assists later. Jordan will forever be a staple in basketball history. But You’re kidding yourself if you think he’s better than Bron.
Very poor logic. If stat padding is more valued than the combo of winning and individual dominance then I guess you’ll take Malone over Duncan and Westbrook over curry. Westbrook had more points, assist, rebounds, steals, blocks than Curry. Yet we both know no sane person would pick Malone over Duncan or Westbrook over Curry. Remember now that was your criteria cumulative stats.
6 rings, (bron has 4) 6 finals mvps, (bron has 4) 5 regular season mvps, (bron has 4) a defensive player of the year (bron has none) 3x nba steals leader (bron also has none) and MJ is a 10 times scoring leader (the most in nba history) and bron has one. What are we talking about? MJ also did all that in way less time.
@@hsivia__1572 You don’t know my logic, I just posted lebrons stats. There is an abundance of reasons bron is better than Jordan. You clearly don’t know what stat padding is and completely failed in your insinuation.
4-6 in the finals, barely has any defensive player of the year awards, and refused to do the slam dunk contest when Jordan competed and won it twice. Yeah... I'll stick to Jordan
It actually blows my mind how many people think Jordan is the goat. He had the best team and never won anything until the good teams around him fell apart. Lebron made it further with less. MJ was drafted to a fairytale scenario
People tend to not realize that being Finals MVP is NOT the result of ONE player’s doing! You need to also have the best TEAM during those Finals, as only the winning TEAM gets their most valuable player awarded! -And Basketball is a TEAM SPORT!
More than 75% of LeBron's points were scored within 3ft of the rim. If he'd played in the 90's. More than half of them wouldn't have been made. I wouldn't compare those two. LeBron plays more like Magic.
He also only has like 1700 Offensive rebounds Magic is a really good comparison. Both Lebron and magic played in super weak conferences while on some good ass teams 👍
Ppl got to remember when MJ was doing this thing and scoring points the team was losing even if he was the best player, but once they got a system where everyone touched the ball then they started to win championship. Yes lebron can do it all but lebron has never had a coach that has made a system so effective that everyone can get the ball and next man on the bench can be as effective in that system as one of the star players if lebron had a coach like that more titles would be inLebrons future.
You don't know what you are talking about. Why would LeBron play in an equal opportunity offense when his argument for GOAT is stats and longevity. I think Blatt tried to implement one, and then LeBron got him fired quick 😂
Hes actually ahead of Jordan on a bunch of stats. Championship are a team thing so you really cant use that in Goat talk. They're alot closer to each other than people want to believe.
Chips are a TEAM accomplishment. 1v1 bron cooks jordan. Everyone would much rather play with bron than mj. Most clutch player and he elevates every team he is on. Give bron pippen…🤷🏾♂️🥶
Idk why ppl are talkin like he said some crazy shit he said that if u want to compare them using mvps and rings mj is ahead of lebron but using stats lebron is ahead of mj which it the truth
Pippen: I have 6 finals never allowed a game 7 as well so we’re does that put me stat wise?
He flip flops on this topic more often than he showers
Pippin ain’t shit without Jordan. Nobody would’ve ever heard of Scottie pippen
@@gagejernigan5277 when did Jordan win a championship without Pippen in the NBA? I’ll wait. ⏱️
@@biz09ification one minute it’s Jordan next minute it’s LeBron one minute Jordan is the Greatest next minute Jordan was a terrible basketball player. I say like who you like without bitterness towards someone else and if you (not you just saying in general) don’t like that players style of play just enjoy the team or players you like. Pippen be trippin’
@@h0llyw00dhoward7 it’s not just about championships 😂😂 Jordan was the best player in the world for 10 years with a shit team around him you can’t win a title with one great player. And those stupid one liners y’all try to use like “iLl wAiT” and “pErIoD” don’t make u any more right
Keep in mind that this interview was at lastest 2017! Before Scottie went rampage.
He’s mind was already stir it upped .. was just a matter of exploding 💥
@bobmonteiro9458 ...but did he lie tho, LeBron has the scoring title and is a TOP assist leader... so he scores AND unselfish... ijs
But MJ still the GOAT!😄
@@ramohnalez3725only arguement yall MJ fans have is rings which is a team accomplishment. We’re talking g about individuals here so to bring up a group accomplishment is kinda weird. But to bring up that Lebron goat james is ahead of MJ is every statistic other than scoring is legit. Lebron James is a better all around player than MJ and it’s without a doubt
@@thatboionyx6375 why you mad bruh?😁
See how he instantly said “6 FINALS 6 FINALS MVPS” That’s all Jordan Fans say💀
Right like it's special. Many guys go 6 rings & all of them didn't quit 2x"s w/o injury..& then came back to stat pad & no playoffs...hell he only played 13/14 total years...sorry I don't hv mj amnesia it's like a pandemic...& he needed Daddie PHILL to show him how..bo rings w/o Phill & got his butt kicked by magic 5rings, bird 3, & even Isiah back to back...if LBJ had a young wade or Kyrie for 8yrs lvj wud hv at least 7rings.
@@drk.i.a.2969 Then why LeBron left if he was carrying the Cavs?
LBJ"s career is his & always had to grind as owners were not gonna let him compete vs Mike their shoe boy & money maker...talk abt colusion's...billionaires are control freaks, esp with the refs..if lbj was favored hed hv 10 rings. 25% plausible & 75% facts...
@@drk.i.a.2969you knock MJ for having a coach that allowed him to iso in triangle offense.... losing to the two best players before him in toughest era and when East was beast... Yet then say IF LEBRON had Kyrie and dwade hed have 7....... You can't make this shit up. Give MJ Kyrie and dwade in LeBron era....he still wouldn't have lost finals, been 6 time MVP and got more rings especially if he didn't retire. The rules work to his advantage in this era bruh. Less physical. Weakest defense. Im a 80s baby I seem them both. It's not close at all to what MJ did.
All of the time. Acting like he did it alone
Bro so in year 30 we still go keep moving the goal post lol
bro steven a can’t say anything cuz scottie played with jordan and his son plays against bron steven a ain’t ever played😭
For the MJ Fans “Emotional Damage” 😂😭💀
There's no emotional damage for a guy who wants to be the GOAT & is losing. Imagine getting a high scoring title...only against teams that are losing worst than the Lakers 🤣All the other GOAT contenders were finding ways to keep winning. LeBron flops more than just for fouls.
Brain damaged lebroon fans
Lebron aint top 10 my boy… real talk. Sorry✌️
Pippen hates Jordan though
@@TheK9ofthascI don’t recall Jordan winning when he was 39 and with the wizards
"You Play to Win the Game"! Herm Edwards
The only argument left for MJ is the 6 rings 😂😂
What? 😂 How about scoring titles? How about DPOY? How about all first team defensive selections? How about highest regular season and playoffs scoring average in NBA history? But sure, its the finals mvps that make a difference 😂
@@IsaacMSingleton1exactly bro
@@IsaacMSingleton1 ok if your talking about rings. Bill russell is the goat then if your talking about rings
@@Drxn0975dude, shut up. Grown folk over here talking. Go sit down over there and just shut it 🪑
@@Drxn0975 my comment didn't even mention rings 😂
The only reason Scottie is saying this is because Jordan’s son is dropping 30 on Larsa pippen every night😭😭
this was before that
Dude, MJs son took an L for that, he could get a younger girl, what he doing with a grandma like that lol
This was years before that 🤦🏽♂️
They are not even together anymore
Pippen just salty bout mj
No Scottie is objectively factual🤭He has absolutely nothing to be salty about
@@williamalexander9485 no he is, he said in his book that he wasn't there for Jordans dads Funeral.
@@williamalexander9485dumass have you watched the last dance???watch it and come back and you will know why
@@MeemXDXD5 Why do y’all think Michael Jordan deserves to be treated better than he treats people. Isn’t it the same Michael Jordan that punched several lesser teammates in the face in practice? It’s not Salty it’s Karma💀💀
@@NbaEdits1376 Firstly just because you drain MJ doesn’t mean that Scottie has to.
Secondly that clip is over 10 years old 🤡🤡🤡🤡
You got all those points, all those assists, and all those rebounds, but y'all still losing? -_-
Russell won 11 chips
Exactly and a a player coach if that isn’t great nothing is
Sam Jones won 10 championships and you've probably never heard of that name before 😂 that just means that Mj is the goat because of skill AND championships
with like 12 teams in the league
lol bill Russel played against bums stop it 😂😂🤣
@@joshuawilliams2447 not buying what your selling.
It’s so funny that Stephen A says “what does Lebron do that you couldn’t do?” And doesn’t realize that he just said JORDAN LITERALLY HAD A LEBRON ON HIS TEAM while winning those 6 chips and finals MVP’s. Jordan didn’t win ANYTHING until he got Pippen. That in itself should be enough to always have a reasonable debate about who’s the best/greatest
This!!
Did pippen win the title the year mj was gone? NOPE!!! Win in Portland? NOPE!!!
@@czvvs3369 nice try bro Pippen finished 3rd in MVP voting that year and took the bulls to 55 wins and a second round loss. The bulls wins FIFTY FIVE GAMES without Jordan and Pippen got further without Jordan than Jordan ever did without Pippen. TRY AGAIN BUD 😂😂😂😂
Mhm, MJ came into a bum bulls in one of the strongest East ever. Lebron came into a mediocre Cavs in the weakest East ever only to not even sniff the playoffs 🥱
Stop overating pippen dude was a bench player until Mj kept him onto his pocket 😆
@@czvvs3369Did Jordan win a championship when Pippin wasn't there ? No Did Jordan win a championship when he was at Washington? No Also, Pippin had 6 titles too
If a game seven takes place that means your playing a decent team.
What does 6 Finals losses indicate?
@@Arthurcollins.that your team was outmatched
@@Arthurcollins. You acting like NBA isn't a goddamned team game. Fans like you see things so individually it's funny. Losing finals only means you are bad if you had bad numbers. Losing finals with good numbers just means your TEAM was just not as good
Stephen A: “Other than scoring points, what does lebron do better than you?”
Like scoring is the least important statistic? 😂
MJ played 13,5 seasons LBJ has played 21? I wonder who’s stat total is higher of the two. 🤦♂️
@@Abekrampe the “you” in this case was Scottie pippen. Stephen A was trying to say lebron and Scottie are on the same level
@@AbekrampeMJ played 15 years quit twice to play baseball and had a HOF coach and teammate his whole back half of his career to win titles, yall just don’t give Pippen and those other guys enough credit because it takes away from MJ. Remember that Team was a championship team but got screwed when MJ went to play baseball. Yall forget that Bulls team was SOLID and competing without MJ. Not a single team LeBron played for did a single thing after him matter of fact a single season without him they dropped to being one of the worst teams in NBA History and the League. MJ also played in a league with less teams and less talent, taking more shots than anyone else in the league by a LARGE margin, cried to the Comish when the Pistons and other teams came up with ways of stopping him and he CRIED when he lost so they made up fake ass rules to help him out and allowing him to have his own way. MJ was toxic asf, pissed all over his teammates and opponents and had very little respect for others.
@@shaneyafanaropreach brah
@@shaneyafanaroLebron isnt as disrespectful but he is definitely a baby. Pistons were intentionally injuring people its better for the league that those things were implemented. What about lebron: flopping, massive free point differentials in his favor, play in tournament introduced. Lebron using his status to build teams and force contracts. Everything you can criticise MJ for, you can criticise Lebron for.
we done with the 90's
Say what u want but LeBron is not jordan
Some of the dumbest sh!t I've ever heard.
@spence_903 ahh yes 1 does not equal to 2
@@spence_903yeah he's better😂
@@midknightsznonly to losers, and participation trophy recipients. This whole era has no backbone. Soft as baby poo
When shump said his goat was Jordan everyone's agreed. But when Mj's teammate says Bron is the goat everyone's got annoyed. like 🤷
if you know the fiance of Michael jordan son
Are you slow? He said only statistics. Statistics isn't everything. Therefore he isn't the goat.
Cos Scotty is salty at Jordan he don't count
I’m saying 😂
@@dhruvmakkad1468This was before that clown
He is ahead on stats and has been for awhile. Cumulative stats are a testament to his longevity and taking care of his body. Not to being the best player
When we talking about the greatest shouldn't longevity matter? Its extremely hard to play at a high level as long as lebron did. If it was easy anyone could do it
@@relaxingaura4395any of those old greats could do it with the physicality level of the NBA during LeBron’s run. There is no physical defense. No “getting punished” every time you go inside. It’s literally a boy’s game now when it used to be a man’s game. The ratings speak for themselves.
@@RKYJHAIRSTUDIOS that's true but I also think you underestimate lebron's intelligence. He knew he couldn't be as physical as he used to be when he was younger because it will wear his body down, even if the league is less physical... so he adjusted his game to match the time. Why do u think at the age of 39 he's shooting 40 percent from the 3? He adapted to the game. Alot of greats couldn't do that the older they got. Longevity has more to do than just physicality
@@relaxingaura4395 he shoots that percentage because he is left wide open, and he’s been on PED’s since Miami. He didn’t adjust anything. The league is the weakest it’s ever been. He’s so smart that he can’t speak proper English, or proper sentences. This is the only era he’d be able to do this. Players, on average, are a lot smaller than they used to be. An example would be the fact that Karl Malone would break him in half. Let LeBron drive into the paint back then, and he’s getting smashed. The NBA purposely doesn’t call traveling, carrying, or offensive fouls on him for clearing out with his elbow. This happens on every drive he does. It’s obvious at this point. The NBA is trying to rig it for him to win, but he’s not good enough.
@@relaxingaura4395 not really. He should be applauded for his longevity but that does measure if you were better. Per game avg does. It took him more games to pass mj in scoring and magic in assist. He was very good in alot of thing but not the best at anything. Making him great but not the greatest. Especially at winning chips
Scottie Pippen spitting tho
Omgggg the glazing on Jordan is crazyyyyyy‼️😂😂
I'm taking LBJ every time
bc you have no clue
@@squadric7722 Cavs fan, different era, different rules different ways. They played different positions, different height and weight. They're both superstars.
@@davidverlaney7764cool ...but both not goats. There Dan only be one. MJ is better. Going to win more and better chance of beating the best. LeBron not on Kobe level yet when the stats THAT MATTER are broken down correctly.
@@J-Bo-hr9zp I might be a little bit biased. 63 male and LeBron is the only one that won a championship for Cleveland fans since I've been alive. Plus, MJ beat my Cavs when they had price and Eli and all them. The Indian came close but always blew it. And I don't think I need to tell you what it's like to be a Cleveland Browns fan. But my buckeyes are usually good and have won a few. Take care.
Craig Eloh.
How can SA even mention the 6tings 6 MVPs to the person who helped Jordan and not be ashamed? With out the right recipe Jordan would not have that 6 rings to win the goat debate
Heard pippens voice and immediately scrolled
The fact that this took place that long ago yet still is a debate today
Jordan is forever the goat
🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴🥴
No just no
In your mind
Until someone surpasses him
Nah , just a asshole that won a lot of games
Anyone thats understands basketball knows lebron is more valuable to a team
Exactly
And that’s why he loses so much. He had to be the whole offense and that causes his teammates to be so out of rhythm since he controls the ball so much. Jordan actually allowed his teammates to play their position and he would focus on his, Jordan also allowed himself to be coached and that’s why he won as much as he did. Lebron wants so much credit that he loves the narrative that he’s never been privileged to have a great coach like an MJ or a magic but the truth is he had a great coach back in Miami but he wanted him fired the minute he got there.
Yeah right. Let me tell you something: Goats don’t play in play -in s
@@milicici ya comment don’t have shit to do w being more valuable to a team. Mj at 40 was trash af
@@miliciciweak argument.. This year and the one Lakers weak ass squad missed.. Was the only time they needed it.. And im sure they were resting lebron old ass and Davis was injured
Pip is really envy😂
Never made it to a game 7 I'm that Jordan fan that never switch teams to win an actual championship 😂
Pippi should know he played with him
He flip flops on this topic more than anyone else that has ever talked about it.
Pippen has been hating on Jordan for years now, he bitter af. Hard to take what he says seriously
@@berdddsawell what did you expect Jordan always done them dirty and takes everything personal
Hey LeBron is just slightly behind MJ objectively and statistically don't say hes way behind Jordan or he'll never catch him if LeBron won the title this year he would be the goat
Not with 6 Finals losses
@@melvinhhcp3615 bro made it to the finals 10 times and won 4 it doesnt matter Jordan made it only 6 times LeBron made it 10 times, and MJ had so much help for his 6 finals and the times LeBron did he didn't always have the most help
@@alphamaster5455 You new kids got it backwards. It's actually the other way around.
@@melvinhhcp3615 Are you saying LeBron is statistically slightly better than Jordan because he's not LeBron is probably 2% at the most behind Jordan
@@alphamaster5455 I'm saying lbj been on superteams since 2010. He left his own team to go learn to win with someone else. Wade said they teamed up to stop Kobe, who is ranked lower than Jordan. So what exactly does this say about lbj?
I don’t think he knows getting finals is a team effort😂
MJ fan's only argument "6 finals 6 rings"
MJ will always be the GOAT!
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Of course Lebron is ahead of Jordan. Anyone that says otherwise is just a Jordan fan boy.
Or just a logical person don’t watch basketball ball but …. Jordan was aspiring to be the best lebron was aspiring to be Jordan… who was first does matter in this situation
FACTS
@@Mr.BIRD2121ok? Mj aspired to be dr j or david thompson, yet he surpassed them.
@@do.2808facts people are nostalgia-tied brainwashed goofies they talk about jorfraud like he was a god lebron has surpassed jorfraud and is now playing for the love of the game he dont have to prove nothing else
@@spas7232exactly
stephen a. always plays the 6 finals wins card
Second it was turned on him he couldn’t speak 😂😂
6 rings, (bron has 4) 6 finals mvps, (bron has 4) 5 regular season mvps, (bron has 4) a defensive player of the year (bron has none) 3x nba steals leader (bron also has none) and MJ is a 10 times scoring leader (the most we’ve ever seen) and bron has one. What are we talking about? It’s not close at all lmao
Bron 40k plus points, 11k assists and 11k rebounds. Numbers don't lie
Da guy who had early success n deallt with physicality more in his conference also dabguy who knew how to win already compared to a guy who had to learn how to win n construct a team yeah mj da goat.
you dont know what stats are? those are accolades not stats
Hell yeah homie tell the truth
While I agree with you, let’s not be selective if you wanna use stats. Bron is king of accumulated stats so it’s a poor choice as proof.
Bron’s 40k-11k-11k is future-proof. Nobody will ever touch that, kinda like 10x scoring titles and 6-0 finals record of MJ.
When a dish you’re cooking requires a LOT of SALT just use a bottle of Pippen.
Lol at longevity being better than absolute dominance.
Stephen said blasphemy 🤦♂️
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LeBron wears number 23. Says it all.
Number 23 exists before Jordan who 😂😂
Draymond do too. Bron just better all around
@@kuenzanglhendup3207everyone wears 23 because of Jordan
Lebron wore 6, does that mean bill Russel is better?
Mj played in the NBA for 14 Years including WHITE HOUSE WIZARDS, while Mr. LEBRON JAMES still playing for the NBA and its his 21'st ANNIVERSARY as an NBA SUPERSTAR and still Got it.
Still got what? Flops and crying? All he does is charge through players in the paint and throw up bricks from 3. Iv seen morbidly obese guys put in more effort on defense
What players did Jordan face in his career? Exactly
What players did Lebron face in his career?
Exactly
Stats dont matter how many championships is he going to win in a row
Lebron overtook Jordan...long ago
Elaborate, what’s your goat criteria?
When did he pass Jordan?
MJ better than Lebron any day of the week
Say no to drugs
LeBron James will never pass Michael Jordan. Michael Jordan is the goat and always will be..
Yes we all Jordan won 11 championship and finals mvps and 50,000 points
You’re not a hall of famer your opinion will never matter…Lebron is twice as good as Jordan
He won't always be the G.O.A.T one day someone will surpass him lol
@@johnyervins5824and lebron did🤦🏽♂️ accolades aren’t everything 😂
@lethanielgangar7605 Indeed, whilst accolades are the biggest key factor in defining greatness, it's only 1 of the many things Michael Jordan did so much better than everyone else 👍
Also, there's nothing wrong with Lebron being in the top 15. That means he's one of the greatest ever, but we all know the undisputed G.O.A.T is Michael Jordan currently
Thing is…Scottie ain’t lyin tho…🤷🏾♂️
Facts this before That little highlight movie
40,000 points 11,000 boards and 11,000 assists later. Jordan will forever be a staple in basketball history. But You’re kidding yourself if you think he’s better than Bron.
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Very poor logic.
If stat padding is more valued than the combo of winning and individual dominance then
I guess you’ll take Malone over Duncan and Westbrook over curry.
Westbrook had more points, assist, rebounds, steals, blocks than Curry.
Yet we both know no sane person would pick Malone over Duncan or Westbrook over Curry.
Remember now that was your criteria cumulative stats.
6 rings, (bron has 4) 6 finals mvps, (bron has 4) 5 regular season mvps, (bron has 4) a defensive player of the year (bron has none) 3x nba steals leader (bron also has none) and MJ is a 10 times scoring leader (the most in nba history) and bron has one. What are we talking about? MJ also did all that in way less time.
@@hsivia__1572 You don’t know my logic, I just posted lebrons stats. There is an abundance of reasons bron is better than Jordan. You clearly don’t know what stat padding is and completely failed in your insinuation.
4-6 in the finals, barely has any defensive player of the year awards, and refused to do the slam dunk contest when Jordan competed and won it twice. Yeah... I'll stick to Jordan
Hes not lying tho. LBJ had better pg% than Jordan career wise.
Jordan never lost a Finals series and went to a game seven!
@@louistully1810 Because he didnt make it to the finals in first place. Got swept in the 1st round
@@GodAres-actually had competition out East. LeBron missed the Playoffs his 1st two yrs
@@GodAres- so he is lying
@@GodAres- and no he doesnt
Both goats I’m tired of comparing
I like that the one who's mad are the people who didn't played with jordan or not even playing basketball
Brian Scalabrine is closer to Lebron than Lebron is too MJ
The biggest cap ive ever seen on the internet
It actually blows my mind how many people think Jordan is the goat. He had the best team and never won anything until the good teams around him fell apart. Lebron made it further with less. MJ was drafted to a fairytale scenario
Exactly. Look how many times mj got bounced out first round ect. 😂 ppl jus be glazing. Without pippin Jordan wouldn't have 6. Maybe 1 or 2
@@kingohighlight1867 how many would Bron have without another franchise player?
LeBron the Goat
Yeah and Lebron also would have never won a ring without building a super team
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He said sun about assist and rebound he started ranting about rings
Saying 6 final Infront of Scottie is top tier disrespectful towards his greatness
Scottie speaking facts!! Bron better!💪🏾 .. Go head max!!
Micheal Jordan and Kobe are the goats of basketball born is not even close
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Shiiiiid...Uncle Scottie should see where we at na🤷🏽♂️🍻🍺
you’d think for being Jordan’s best teammate, he’d know who the better player is.
Statistics song mean shit. You can't compare Statistics because the eras are completely different. It's easier to score now than it was back then.
They Say 6 Finals and Finals MVP like he's That one Avatar You Play Only One Game With So he Has a Win % of a 100
He never went to a game 7 "in the finals".
Passing reel
SCOTTIE PIPPEN KNOW HE WAS PLAYING AGAINST SOME SORRY MFS. RESPECT THE HONESTY
MJ can't even compare to LeBron...it' disrespectfull to the king
That mellow guy mentioned next to Jordon is blasphemy in itself
People tend to not realize that being Finals MVP is NOT the result of ONE player’s doing! You need to also have the best TEAM during those Finals, as only the winning TEAM gets their most valuable player awarded! -And Basketball is a TEAM SPORT!
Good point Steven 👌🏾💯 ...
Mj never miss a fine for being poked in the eye
He played wit mike he would know
Basketball is a team game so saying 6 finals wins doesn’t mean anything.
I checked the rebounding stats it took bron 21 years to pass a 2 guard in offensive rebounds
Jordan with the defensive player of the year award and multiple all defensive teams. It’s not even close. Jordan is the goat. Always has been
More than 75% of LeBron's points were scored within 3ft of the rim.
If he'd played in the 90's. More than half of them wouldn't have been made.
I wouldn't compare those two.
LeBron plays more like Magic.
He also only has like 1700 Offensive rebounds
Magic is a really good comparison. Both Lebron and magic played in super weak conferences while on some good ass teams 👍
You call Cleveland good team? 😂😂😂.
You need Jesus, bro
remember it took him like 10 more years of playing to get to this point
Lbj is also ahead on flopping, excuses and complaining to the ref. 🤣🤣🤣
Ppl got to remember when MJ was doing this thing and scoring points the team was losing even if he was the best player, but once they got a system where everyone touched the ball then they started to win championship. Yes lebron can do it all but lebron has never had a coach that has made a system so effective that everyone can get the ball and next man on the bench can be as effective in that system as one of the star players if lebron had a coach like that more titles would be inLebrons future.
You don't know what you are talking about. Why would LeBron play in an equal opportunity offense when his argument for GOAT is stats and longevity.
I think Blatt tried to implement one, and then LeBron got him fired quick 😂
Get him Steven A 😂😂 some times you gotta put it on the desk and let them see it son
Scottie be like: Im closer to lebron than you to getting a single girl😂😂😂
Hes actually ahead of Jordan on a bunch of stats. Championship are a team thing so you really cant use that in Goat talk. They're alot closer to each other than people want to believe.
Scottie get your head checked 🤪
scottie pippen was bitter and resentful abot the GOAT MJ probably throughout his career .
Chips are a TEAM accomplishment. 1v1 bron cooks jordan. Everyone would much rather play with bron than mj. Most clutch player and he elevates every team he is on. Give bron pippen…🤷🏾♂️🥶
He saying mj didn't allow a game 6. Shhiidd Scottie didn't either
Bro would take any chance to come at Jordan💀
Check his turnovers, check his flopping...
That's mans response to any LeBron James debate 6 this 6 that like that's all his got just let it go
How about 10 scoring tiltles, 1 DPOY and a better defender, the fact that he only needed 1 other all star to create the best team ever !!
Stephen is the biggest mj glazer the world will ever see
Idk why ppl are talkin like he said some crazy shit he said that if u want to compare them using mvps and rings mj is ahead of lebron but using stats lebron is ahead of mj which it the truth
Kenny smith just shut down Scottie 😬
How is the only argument for the goat debate are rings?
Bro if his teammate that knows mj better than you do why would you argue with him
He's not wrong
Longevity.. and he got those stats. Hehehe
Pippen saying lebron has more rebounds
Stephen a smith OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHH MY GODDDDDD
I trust what he says after all he’s the reason why Chicago won rings 😜
when can we have a raven vs jordan debate
LeBron played 21 seasons. Michael Jordan played 15
It's funny to me how NBA fans compare Team results to personall greatness all the time... -Coming from individual sports