Reading the Old Testament as a Catholic - Fr. Thomas Joseph White, O. P.
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'Catholics don't read the Old Testament often enough.'
@@ciaranocoigligh1527 I've heard this claim b4...
The every day mass cerebration has old testament readings including on Sundays...i think you mean we don't emphasise on them as much as we do when it comes to the Gospels
@@clinton1369 No. I mean exactly what I said: 'Catholics don't read the Old Testament often enough.' This is, possibly, partly because preachers involved in the celebration of the Mass, rarely, if ever, base their sermons or homilies on Old-Testament texts.
@@ciaranocoigligh1527 Well it's you who's mistaken then. I can testify that We do read the old testament enough, almost daily according to missal, but the sermons are most of the time, if not always, Christocentric. The whole structure fits together so that the Mass is focused on Christ in the Gospels.
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The NT is concealed in the OT, while the OT is revealed in the NT.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge Father White, I appreciate so much your time for teaching to others. God Bless you.
Thank you, Rodrigo.
Thank you Father White.
Frank
Bless you for clarifying many issues that I did not understand. I contue to acquire understanding what it means to be a servent of the Spirit in the Apostodo de la Cruz. I especially like the significant historical references.
Colossians 2:16-17 says that everything in the OT were shadows of the things in the NT.
1:36 I do not think fundamentalism is _rightly_ defined by Ratzinger early nineties as a rejection of the allegoric sense, and I do also not think fundamentalism is _rightly_ defined as not thoroughly thinking through the human authorship under the divine guidance.
By fundamentalism as the word is usually used, one understands _partly_ things that distinguish also moderately modernist Catholics from extreme modernist Protestants (affirmation vs denial of Virgin Birth, physical resurrection, atonement doing something human moral effort can't, and effected by Calvary, real existence of angels and of demons, Christ's exorcisms really driving out demons, human authors of the Gospels having sufficiently credible access to the events to be credible witnesses, and in general being the four Gospellers tradition points to), and _partly_ some things St. Thomas and St. Augustine will share with a Protestant or Catholic Fundie against a moderately modernist Catholic : Young Earth Creationism, special creation of kinds, whatever that means, and especially of mankind, Geocentrism (absent from most but not all of today's Fundies - notably present in this Catholic as well as in Rick DeLano, with whom I have had my differences about this - about _details,_ we are both Tychonian Geocentrics).
This attitude _neither_ depends on denying allegorical senses, _nor_ on denying the human authors had to get their information from somewhere, and that Inspiration was not usually a dictation with revelation of things previously to inspiration unknown to them.
I had just read CCC 115 - 119 and then I came across this. Thank you for the explanation
Thanks to you!
I have a question on the literal sense as Fr. White describes it using the Song of Songs as an example. He says that the literal sense is actually God's love for his people and not the love between a groom and bride.
Today's Gospel reading on the parable of the sower got me thinking. Applying the line of thought, would the literal sense be the explanation that Jesus gives the disciples? Or is the parable a different case than the Song of Songs and the literal sense is actually what happens to seeds depending on where they are sown.
Or does typology and speaking about the literal sense only apply when what we think is a type is in the Old Testament?
Thanks for these questions. You're on the right track with your understanding of the parable, and that gives a good illustration of what St. Thomas means by "literal sense": it includes not only the mere words taken at face value, but what the author intended to signify by the words. Since Jesus reveals what he intended to signify, you could say he himself interprets the literal sense to the disciples and, through the Gospels, to us. St. Thomas says, "the parabolic sense is contained in the literal, for things are signified both properly and figuratively by words."
@@ThomisticInstitute Thank you so much for your response! I shall keep Fr. White's, and St. Thomas' teaching in mind as I read Scripture from now on. This really helps narrow things down to understand a passage better.
I'm trying to post this message on as many videos about St Thomas that I can find. I really need to speak to someone about something that happened to me in regard to St. Thomas. Really don't want to spill my guts here but it's important. I won't go into all the details and I fear talking about this stuff because people think you're crazy. I had a vision of Saint Thomas. There is a lot of meaning in what happened to me but I don't understand it and I need to talk to someone. Every time I watch one of these videos all I do is cry. Can someone who has a lot of knowledge about Saint Thomas reach out to me please?? I've been dealing with this for months now and I need to study more but I don't know where to begin. I have no one to talk to about this and I don't know where to turn it. I have a history of having visions but as soon as you talk about it people look at you like you're crazy so I have a hard time with that. I end up keeping it all to myself. I wish I were an artist so I could paint a picture of him now that I know exactly what he looks like. All those artist sketches do him no justice at all.
@@mvwil I know I've seen Jesus too. What state are you in?
What is the book he mentions he wrote early in the video called?
Thank you for your contributions Father
Shouldn't this be titled, 'A Catholic reading of Old Testament' ? As it is not the only Catholic approach to Scriptures.
The title is a reference to Cdl. Danielou
Did Christ fulfill all Old Testament prophesy?
Tough question! In a sense, he is the fulfillment of all prophecy as God himself revealing the fulness of truth in person. However, in another sense, there are particular things which he has yet to reveal to us who are still on the way to perfect vision of him.
If you read the Old Testament, then the New Testament literally makes no sense at all. So if the second book doesn’t match with the first book the the second book is bogus.
Will the Thomistic institute Angelicum continue without Fr. White?
Fr. White is currently the Director of the Thomistic Institute at the Angelicum in Rome, and we persuaded him to give this lecture from our studio in Washington, D.C. while he happened to be here on a visit. But he is only visiting us during the summer break from classes in Rome, and will return to the Angelicum for the fall semester. So, yes, the TI Angelicum will continue, with Fr. White at the helm, hopefully for many good years to come!
The Thomistic Institute Great news, I was disappointed for a sec because I just finished registration to go to the Angelicum in the fall and Fr. White is one of the big reasons why I picked the school, glad to hear I’ll be able to possibly meet him and attend some T.I. talks while I’m in Rome. Thank you for the update!
@@ThomisticInstitute great news!
@@matthewmayuiers You are very fortunate. Hope you've made the most of it.