Fat Joe Tells Jim Jones Why Big L Went After Mase In Harlem | 2020

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  • During a recent Instagram Live Stream, Fat Joe sat down with the "We Fly High" Hitmaker Jim Jones! In this live stream, Fat Joe explained why Big L went at Mase In Harlem New York! Jim Jones also speaks on why Cam'ron had beef with Mase.
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  • @dollaman2745
    @dollaman2745 3 місяці тому +431

    Who else is here after made told this story on “ it is what it is “ ?

  • @anwarmangum7673
    @anwarmangum7673 2 роки тому +441

    Okay but Mase taught Jim how to rap and introduced Cam to BIG which led to Cam's first record deal. That's worth a lot more than they are giving Mase credit for.

    • @jaybeswick9062
      @jaybeswick9062 Рік тому

      Yea but mase ain't from nyc or New York so you are supposed to look out for those that protect you and look out for you etc ! People thought mase was from Harlem he from Georgia you see him put anybody from Georgia or even talk about Georgia ? He sold nyc cause that was before Georgia became a hip hop mecca now u got mad cats from Georgia who do tracks with nyc but not mase think about that you from new york and Georgia and nobody f**KS with you from either state 💯 that's on your character not on anybody else 🤔

    • @therealliveguy
      @therealliveguy Рік тому +50

      Teaching how to fish is much more valuable than handing out fish. Takes wisdom to understand.

    • @wilsonfisk4741
      @wilsonfisk4741 9 місяців тому +7

      It was cam who thought Jim Jones to rap and big l and herb mcgruff black Rob help cam bloodhed mase etc how to tighten the writing skills and points and tips on developing there flow big facts

    • @freshrich736
      @freshrich736 6 місяців тому +24

      ​@@wilsonfisk4741mase taught Jones how to Rap and he came up with the name diplomats too

    • @wilsonfisk4741
      @wilsonfisk4741 6 місяців тому +4

      @freshrich736 no it was cam and blood shed who taught jim and mase came up with harlem world with cam cam come up with diplomats thus harlem world diplomats a combination of sorts and the reason they both have harlem world tattooed on there arms none the less

  • @montelay8943
    @montelay8943 3 місяці тому +73

    They hate my boy Murda

  • @davebutz2448
    @davebutz2448 2 роки тому +190

    Mase said he didn't have it like that when they thought he did but by the time he did really get the bag, too much drama and damage had been done to their relationships for him to give back the way he really wanted to smh. I still don't get how the next man feels someone owes them anything. smh

    • @grav9992
      @grav9992 2 роки тому +21

      Shouldn't have been trying to count his pockets for him

    • @dwayne-wayne
      @dwayne-wayne 2 роки тому

      He didn't have it puff was fucking erybody

    • @chasestacks7792
      @chasestacks7792 10 місяців тому +5

      They held mase down for years and took care of him its only right he give back

    • @hyyerr83
      @hyyerr83 5 місяців тому +9

      I hate when guys dont understand friends thats IN THE HOOD! If i get rich... im not leavin my main homies out. ESPECIALLY if we all looked out for each other.

    • @gucci_got_ink
      @gucci_got_ink 3 місяці тому +7

      Mase the reason they all got deals he taught him how to rap and brought cam to biggie.

  • @dpizzle911
    @dpizzle911 3 місяці тому +193

    Everyone was pocket watching Mase and didn’t even know what was going on!!💯

    • @Sportsguy0258
      @Sportsguy0258 3 місяці тому +45

      All the girls loved Mase. It pissed everyone off except Cam because he was getting girls to

    • @Forever.Remain.Nameless
      @Forever.Remain.Nameless 3 місяці тому +44

      Puff wasn't paying Mase right and the hood thought Mase was rich rich. Recipe for disaster....

    • @fabolousjada5070
      @fabolousjada5070 3 місяці тому

      @@Sportsguy0258facts

    • @awsohmvision
      @awsohmvision 3 місяці тому +8

      Communication is key!!! Mase should have kept it 💯 instead he was frontin like he had it but really didn’t. He even said that.

    • @Sportsguy0258
      @Sportsguy0258 3 місяці тому +6

      @@awsohmvision lol aye so does everyone in Harlem.

  • @Hollywood24163
    @Hollywood24163 3 місяці тому +71

    If u notice they secretly hate mase

    • @tarloe
      @tarloe Місяць тому +2

      They do.

    • @DubbyDubois
      @DubbyDubois 27 днів тому

      @@tarloeCam gets it. Thats why he squashed it

  • @raulsalazar6362
    @raulsalazar6362 2 роки тому +65

    If everyone around Mase didn't let Jealousy take over them they all could have ate more than they did

  • @ToasterForLife
    @ToasterForLife 2 роки тому +114

    When the underdog wins, they hate. Mase did introduce Cam'Ron to Biggie. Walked him into his bedroom.

    • @prodigy513
      @prodigy513 2 роки тому +35

      Pause, but yeah.

    • @FitsUWeddings
      @FitsUWeddings 2 роки тому +24

      Facts, pause but facts

    • @dujuanjohnson5025
      @dujuanjohnson5025 2 роки тому +9

      And taught Jimmy how to rap

    • @freshrich736
      @freshrich736 6 місяців тому +5

      ​@@dujuanjohnson5025and came up with the name diplomats too

    • @Glennweside
      @Glennweside 2 місяці тому

      Why not big L tho?

  • @themollymachine
    @themollymachine 3 місяці тому +66

    here because of "it is what it is"

  • @hassan415
    @hassan415 2 роки тому +48

    In most cases it’s either damn he wasn’t even like that growing up now he a shooter. Or he wasn’t like that growing up and they press you till you become the shooter or coward away. It’s a lose lose growing up poor. These niggaz will set you up for failure then do a podcast about it like you the bad guy years later 🤣🤦🏾‍♂️🙅🏾‍♂️👎🏾

  • @jason-fu6tc
    @jason-fu6tc 2 роки тому +95

    Sounds like Mase done blew Chrissy’s back out 🤣🤣🤣

    • @TheEsquireOfSportsFSU
      @TheEsquireOfSportsFSU 3 місяці тому +6

      So did Po, and Jimmy never fixed his mouth to speak about him lmao he knew better.

    • @ronmatthews
      @ronmatthews 3 місяці тому +14

      She touched it in Miami LMAO

    • @kslay14
      @kslay14 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@ronmatthews lol word?

    • @timharris1675
      @timharris1675 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@@kslay14Free The Boss Don😎

    • @kslay14
      @kslay14 3 місяці тому

      @@timharris1675 is that something to look up on UA-cam or what

  • @vlmshv
    @vlmshv Рік тому +138

    They trying to re-write history. Conveniently left out the part that Big L’s NFL crew took a bad boy chain of one of the members prior and then big L wore that chain to the tunnel. Puffy obviously told mase he had to get at Big L and get that chain back since they both from Harlem and came up together. Jimmy been hating on mase his whole career. Shit lame

    • @DJBugsy215
      @DJBugsy215 10 місяців тому

      😮

    • @jonstorm1484
      @jonstorm1484 10 місяців тому

      ​@@DJBugsy215who jimmy😅

    • @MichaelPolite-i5g
      @MichaelPolite-i5g 5 місяців тому

      Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮

    • @TheEsquireOfSportsFSU
      @TheEsquireOfSportsFSU 3 місяці тому +6

      That last line... 100%. I witnessed the early part of that before I left Harlem the first time in '99. I don't fw jimmy hard to this day because he always been a snake.

    • @nikreece7955
      @nikreece7955 3 місяці тому

      Damn that’s deep

  • @dagmantv
    @dagmantv 2 роки тому +188

    Jim Jones: "Mase wasn't a hustler or never knew how to make money..." ... 🤷🏿‍♂️ But we all know Mase signed to BadBoy before any of them got legitimate deals! You can tell why Mase didn't do nothing for any of them because there is a hateful tone to what Jim is saying... Listen to how Memphis Bleek and TyTy talk about Jay; Banks and Ayo talk about 50; Dr Dre talk about Easy-E and PAC; even the Lox and Diddy... No matter what these dudes might go through they always give their bread winner the credit he deserves or is owed...
    And what I mean by that is Cam and Jim constantly dig out Mase like he's a punk but talk like he should have been helping them, make it make sense. You can't clown a man and then expect handouts.

    • @stocksinvestments2788
      @stocksinvestments2788 2 роки тому +16

      🤔 damn that’s something to think about

    • @youbetterknowityoubettersa2685
      @youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 2 роки тому +29

      Look at the million dollars worth of game podcast with Mase he explains it

    • @dagmantv
      @dagmantv 2 роки тому +22

      @@youbetterknowityoubettersa2685 I have and it's basically they were hating on him believing he had more than he had and wasn't sharing the bag. So when he did finally have the bag, he was already at war with them so he couldn't share it.

    • @Camjj89
      @Camjj89 2 роки тому +32

      As much as I rock with Cam and Jimmy, I gotta agree with you on that. Jim Jones seem like he still has ill feelings toward Mase

    • @jh8567
      @jh8567 2 роки тому +32

      @@Camjj89 he grew up thinking hes better than mase, and mase taught him how to rap and make a living. And he cant face it. so he talks down on mase to feel better about it.

  • @pro2callmuzik
    @pro2callmuzik 2 роки тому +135

    Jim Jones acts like he really grew up with Mase. Cam Cleary said Jim isn't from Harlem and they didn't grow up together. Mase taught Jimmy how to rap

    • @khalilburks5331
      @khalilburks5331 2 роки тому

      Bra if u around nigga at 16 17 years old u definitely grew up with them

    • @daddyfamlittle6262
      @daddyfamlittle6262 2 роки тому +4

      Yup!!!

    • @pookeyrich8974
      @pookeyrich8974 2 роки тому +7

      His was born Bronx but he grew up in harlem

    • @jhonstarks4693
      @jhonstarks4693 2 роки тому +2

      U from the town?

    • @HessKnows
      @HessKnows 2 роки тому +12

      Jim stayed with his granny in Harlem so he came up with cam and mase them was his niggas Jim not cappin

  • @scLefQ
    @scLefQ 2 роки тому +62

    Listen to what Jimmy says..."Me and Cam was about hustlin and getting money; Ma$e wasn't with that." Then goes on to say how Ma$e got hand me downs and how they clowned on him. Any of the dudes that's with me don't get to look bummy while I'm getting money. You may not look as fly as me, but ain't no way I'm going to stunt on you if you my homie.
    Ma$e's means of getting money was rap and capitalized on that. How do you expect the dude you used to clown on and stunt on to turn around and give you what he finally achieved? Dudes got things backwards. And then you throw in Puffy robbing him all those years... it just allowed that man to see who was really down for him. I would move out of the city too if my so called "homies" were hating on me.

    • @naomithomas9572
      @naomithomas9572 3 місяці тому +5

      I grew up in the PJ’s in Cali the had a good friend she was my homegirl. She was poor but extremely poor. But because she was a real one I didn’t dog her I gathered things for her so she can be fly. Because my heart is like that. When you’re a real friend you never talk about the misfortune of your friend. You ride or die with them, rob with them whatever it takes so that our walk is even. You hungry I got a sandwich oh you need something to wear I’m going to my sisters and we hooking up my friend. They dogged out Ma$e now look who’s laughing

    • @nickiversusonika8063
      @nickiversusonika8063 2 місяці тому

      When did Jim say that he and Cam "clowned" on Mase? Jim clearly stated that Mase wasn't about hustling in the streets like he and Cam were. He then stated that he and Cam would make sure that Mase was fresh and were dressed up to par when he was around them. Both Jim and Cam made sure that Mase was good too. At what point, did he say that they basically made fun of Mase?🤔

    • @scLefQ
      @scLefQ 2 місяці тому

      @@nickiversusonika8063 There's another interview in which Jimmy is talking about Ma$e and how they grew up. Search it for yourself.

  • @Rambunctious216
    @Rambunctious216 2 роки тому +26

    Heard Jim wasn't really bout that life either.

    • @robertwhite9976
      @robertwhite9976 2 місяці тому

      Bru there's video on, when beef happens who's running lol Rucker Park smh

    • @olliwest7341
      @olliwest7341 2 місяці тому

      Ask Jimmy how they ran him out of Buff.... I DARE him to deny it

  • @Maczomba1
    @Maczomba1 2 роки тому +117

    Mase was the genius in Harlem, he became a millionaire at 18… he didn’t have carry the whole hood.

    • @DM-lj2mn
      @DM-lj2mn 2 роки тому +29

      Without Mase there is no Dipset dude opened up the flood gates for Harlem and Camron connection to him is what got him signed

    • @KingMK31
      @KingMK31 2 роки тому +3

      @@DM-lj2mn If you didn't know Cam would have went with Biggie at one point in his career!

    • @nathanamazin8464
      @nathanamazin8464 2 роки тому +7

      @@DM-lj2mn without Big L there’d be no Mase

    • @HARDWORKCORP
      @HARDWORKCORP 2 роки тому +10

      @@nathanamazin8464
      That's where ur wrong...L had the deal 1st, but didn't have the pull or power to put ppl on to bigger deals. He may have influenced style-wise but Mase didn't get his deal that changed his life thru L connections or promotion

    • @charlielongstick7157
      @charlielongstick7157 2 роки тому

      Not smart enough to not fuck w ppl he couldn’t beat🤷🏾‍♂️.

  • @swagnificentMAN
    @swagnificentMAN 2 роки тому +75

    Jimmy such a hater 😂😂😂 Mase had the juice and you didn’t just keep it a buck

    • @jada8047
      @jada8047 2 роки тому +2

      Mase an Cam sound the same almost

    • @archsciontrismegistus4194
      @archsciontrismegistus4194 2 роки тому +2

      Word cause how u riding with drivers and dt know who you sliding on?👀 Major major hater cap🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @SLSMe
    @SLSMe 2 роки тому +97

    For those that don’t kno Ma$e corroborated this part of the story. The issues began when his homies started believing he had money he didn’t really have. He got signed to a deal and they expected kickback but he didn’t have it like that.

    • @franklingreene3132
      @franklingreene3132 2 роки тому

      My lol I’m I’m
      M
      N

    • @hrrspaul4
      @hrrspaul4 2 роки тому +2

      Facts

    • @brianteague44
      @brianteague44 Рік тому +4

      Agreed...Diddy was the blame cuz Mase ain't have the paper like he was flexing like he did.

    • @chasestacks7792
      @chasestacks7792 10 місяців тому +2

      Rightfully because ppl was holdin him down before he got paper

    • @Nekowhite93
      @Nekowhite93 3 місяці тому +3

      Even if he HAD the money, why would he owe them ANYTHING?

  • @kevinjohnson963
    @kevinjohnson963 2 роки тому +77

    Before Mase got on he was the brokest and wasn’t fresh at all used hand me downs and nobody thought he would be the one to hit and it was basically revenge for him to shine on everybody when he got it

    • @eyeamgod2734
      @eyeamgod2734 2 роки тому +23

      Mase also said that when he blew up he didn't have the money yet! He wrote all the hits and did the beats while Puff was out partying! By the no way out tour happen he was still figuring out the business side of music! During the end of the tour he figured out that he was the headline but wasn't getting paid! He said when he refused to go out they gave him 15k! He still fighting with Bad Boys right now for his 50% masters because Sony already paid him their 50% of the same masters and paid him back royalties plus more money he is owed!

    • @tgrogg9301
      @tgrogg9301 2 роки тому +2

      Facts

    • @SonniBlack180
      @SonniBlack180 2 роки тому +7

      Exactly “Now it’s my turn to shit on these niggaz”

  • @turnofeventz
    @turnofeventz 3 місяці тому +6

    Big L was out b4 Ma$e...Jim Jones is a clown...How Ma$e supposed to put Big L on? 😅

    • @harri8162
      @harri8162 2 місяці тому

      Big L flopped.

  • @olearyeugene
    @olearyeugene 2 роки тому +28

    Jimmy ain't really about that neither. Too many stories of him getting his ass beat and crying

  • @richiesantos4818
    @richiesantos4818 3 місяці тому +2

    Cam said he used to get fresh because of mase and mase taught Jim how to rap....Jim is bitter and sad cam and mase are seeing success without him

  • @lfreeman202
    @lfreeman202 2 роки тому +14

    Sounds like a dude who want you to stay under em forever... As a teen he was broke... He changed his own life, then dudes assumed he owed them. They wanted Mase to stay the lil dirty broke cat forever, and couldn't handle Mase now having more... Cam did the same thing to Jim when he came up. He so used to Jim being the hype man, couldn't handle Jim being his own man...

    • @facksvillain2296
      @facksvillain2296 6 місяців тому

      They knew who he’d become, if he was to catch a break. They were hating when they had more than him

  • @urbanflavorz
    @urbanflavorz 2 роки тому +16

    When did Mase talk about selling crack smh. Jim Jones hatin. He put Cam on who put Jim on. He took Cam to Biggie

  • @hydro8sixty
    @hydro8sixty 7 місяців тому +10

    Cam: Ma$e was getting money at 8 on the corner by his self I seen em walking to McDonald's with my mom's Jim is from the Bronx 😂😂

    • @dthomas1583
      @dthomas1583 3 місяці тому

      And Jim was a bum

    • @WhiteSauceher
      @WhiteSauceher 2 місяці тому +1

      😂😂😂 and Jim was broke

    • @dthomas1583
      @dthomas1583 2 місяці тому

      @@hydro8sixty fuck he talking bout

  • @mariusseidel9654
    @mariusseidel9654 Рік тому +20

    Big L Rest in Peace 💯💥👌

  • @Ismail-cf6xu
    @Ismail-cf6xu 2 роки тому +72

    There’s something about Jim…Can’t put my finger on it but when it comes to Ma$e and Cam’s relationship, their history…listening to him talk about it there’s always this emotional thread that sticks out: hate, envy, jealousy? Idk

    • @ThePOSPlug
      @ThePOSPlug 2 роки тому +5

      Yep

    • @bigbusiness4335
      @bigbusiness4335 2 роки тому +1

      He is a loser to him... he couldn't walk in those unfortunate shoes ...

    • @deanod8303
      @deanod8303 2 роки тому +10

      Because he's not from the savage heart of Harlem like they were. So it made him wanna be even more bout it.

    • @bigbusiness4335
      @bigbusiness4335 2 роки тому +2

      @@deanod8303 wtf are you talking about smfh

    • @Ismail-cf6xu
      @Ismail-cf6xu 2 роки тому

      @@deanod8303 you may be right. Interesting theory

  • @kno2much597
    @kno2much597 2 роки тому +17

    Mase said "give me the catalog I'll show you how daddy ball"

  • @AndreWhyte
    @AndreWhyte 3 місяці тому +3

    How was mase not getting to the bag if he got signed at 19? He wasn’t even legal to drink but doing world tours. What is Jim talking about?

  • @MaccaveliDon
    @MaccaveliDon 2 роки тому +13

    All jim do is 🧢

  • @themollymachine
    @themollymachine 3 місяці тому +3

    jim always lying

  • @wafe107
    @wafe107 Рік тому +54

    Big L was that dude. His punchlines were other worldly and his charisma was different. Top 3 dead or alive for me.🙏🏾🎤

    • @300quid
      @300quid 5 місяців тому +4

      the illest to ever do it💙

    • @phillysmallz1
      @phillysmallz1 3 місяці тому

      @@300quid🤣🤣🤣

    • @nivek1660
      @nivek1660 3 місяці тому +1

      @@300quidStole from Mase and Nas

    • @AllPersonalNothingBusiness
      @AllPersonalNothingBusiness 3 місяці тому +2

      ​@nivek1660 everybody took a little something from someone else. Lyrically mase is not even close to L no disrespect

    • @nivek1660
      @nivek1660 3 місяці тому +3

      @@AllPersonalNothingBusiness This is your opinion. L took from Mase not the other way around. Mase didn’t take from L and was sick with the lyrics. Just because you prefer Big L it doesn’t make him the better rapper/lyricist. It’s your personal preference.

  • @breakinbreadwnbjones4341
    @breakinbreadwnbjones4341 2 роки тому +6

    So basically Mase started gettin money and the nigahs who was gettin money in Harlem b4 him got mad he was gettin money. That’s what I’m hearin’

  • @the4thtribe709
    @the4thtribe709 2 роки тому +13

    Jones and Cam come off so Jealous of Ma$e.

  • @wunfoe
    @wunfoe 2 місяці тому +3

    Mase rapped about his money and Playa haters. Sounds like he was accurately rapping about his life.

  • @nicestuff8755
    @nicestuff8755 2 роки тому +91

    Mase was the smart one, he didn’t had to be bout that “life” to succeed, but was surrounded by a bunch of haters

    • @michaelpolite5805
      @michaelpolite5805 2 роки тому +3

      Street 🐈 cats got at Mase according to Cam'ron

    • @RazorReg
      @RazorReg 2 роки тому +4

      Well if that's the case why have a rap name " Murda Mase"???? That name alone is gonna get you checked.

    • @INCRWDntwrk
      @INCRWDntwrk 2 роки тому +17

      “Murda” being a metaphor for murdering beats or murdering rappers on wax.

    • @Kingjames313
      @Kingjames313 2 роки тому

      Facts

    • @Kingjames313
      @Kingjames313 2 роки тому

      @@michaelpolite5805 According to a nigga that don’t fuck with him………

  • @njguy4844
    @njguy4844 2 роки тому +100

    I never really heard Mase talk and rhyme about “that life”. He was on some smooth stuff.

    • @lisalopez8026
      @lisalopez8026 2 роки тому +28

      His nickname was Mase Murda bro....Listen to Danger Zone

    • @malikburberry9981
      @malikburberry9981 2 роки тому +19

      Yeah I was murder p Diddy name me pretty yeah murder mase was on gangsta shit in the beginning listen to his verse on niggas done started something of DMX Album

    • @SupremeSpeaking
      @SupremeSpeaking 2 роки тому +18

      Murda Mase… Children of The Corn. Murda was DEFINITELY talking that talk lol

    • @MillieMoBuckz
      @MillieMoBuckz 2 роки тому +18

      Murda Mase was Street …. MA$E was smooth

    • @adamcosman8789
      @adamcosman8789 2 роки тому +1

      @@lisalopez8026 *murda mase

  • @monnyo1123
    @monnyo1123 2 роки тому +12

    Mase never rapped about that but sometimes Jim can do extra

  • @chrisrobinson8339
    @chrisrobinson8339 2 роки тому +6

    But Jim. Didn't mase teach you how to rap?

  • @brianingram6214
    @brianingram6214 2 роки тому +6

    Grow up guys.Black on black negative energy

  • @marlonennis4786
    @marlonennis4786 2 роки тому +21

    Jim sounds like yal were trying to extort Mase not help him.

    • @treydeuce8479
      @treydeuce8479 2 роки тому +1

      exactly.. He said they were mad that he wasnt kicking back (that becomes extortion once you start pressing them for not kicking back)
      Then he said that mase was being ran out of harlem by guys who owned blocks and got money lol so why’d they need a kick back?
      Lol 🤷🏾‍♂️

    • @alexvilma599
      @alexvilma599 2 роки тому

      Becuz like Jim said. When he didn’t have he held him down. Y’all missed that part. And even Mase said it. Cam would give him clothes and sneakers. If you my man and I’m giving you my clothes and sneakers so you can keep up with us. Then you blow up and you not gonna bless niggaz that helped you? Cmon

    • @alexvilma599
      @alexvilma599 2 роки тому

      But that shit water under the bridge. Mase admitted he messed up. He got the money and wilded out. Him and Cam are cool. They just was talking a few days ago. Mase posted it

    • @slycooper1979
      @slycooper1979 2 роки тому

      @@alexvilma599 bruh mase did not have the money when he first blew up what exactly did you expect him to kick back???? It took a couple months for mase to start seeing that money

  • @JulioCoca-th9le
    @JulioCoca-th9le 3 місяці тому +2

    20 30 deep Joe a punk

  • @Honeybadger007-hklrkch
    @Honeybadger007-hklrkch 3 місяці тому +3

    Jim know he is done since Cam hooked up with Ma$e...its just a matter of fact 😂😂😂😂

  • @jadakiss7778
    @jadakiss7778 3 місяці тому +4

    To depend on a 18 year to lift everyone else up is a serious issue. If you and cam were hustlers why would you be salty at a 18 year old for not lifting everyone else. These dudes crazy!

  • @leefortuin9839
    @leefortuin9839 2 роки тому +24

    Ma$e a better emcee than both Jim & Crack.They didnt do or live all the things they rapped about either.

    • @shabazz360
      @shabazz360 11 місяців тому +1

      Jim didn’t but then TS dudes was for real. Joe included.

  • @andrik78
    @andrik78 3 місяці тому +2

    Jim jones was from the Bronx what’s he talking about

  • @giftedimagesllc
    @giftedimagesllc 9 місяців тому +2

    What’s funny is that Mase corroborated most of this stuff on Million dollars worth of game podcast. Mase said he was poor and used to clean Cam’s sneaker and also saying Cam’s hand me downs were his get fresh. He felt like he was always #2 to Cam.
    It always feels like Jim is speaking from a personal place whenever he talks about Mase. Always in a backhanded tone.
    Maybe it’s just me. 🤔🤷🏾‍♂️

  • @andrik78
    @andrik78 3 місяці тому +2

    These 2 are the biggest liars

  • @rasta9658
    @rasta9658 2 роки тому +7

    that's what goes on in the hood i guess, peeps you grow up with envy you for making money and moving up. i always say this, the hood is the worst place to live, nothing good happens there.

  • @MarcPlaysDrums
    @MarcPlaysDrums 2 місяці тому +2

    Jim hating on Mase. Cam said Mase was outside before Cam. Jim was know for being good with hands but not for hustling. Also, Mase put Cam on who put Jimmy on…what more could they ask from him? I like Jim but he be hating a lot. That’s kinda why Cam doesn’t rock with him but he rocks with Mase, cuz Mase is about the bag. Why you think he still getting money with Cam and Jimmy ain’t? Cuz Cam(who’s all about the hustle)knows Mase is about his money.

  • @YungDes83
    @YungDes83 4 місяці тому +2

    Just cuz your signed doesn’t mean you can put people on. Plus Jim weds to grow up. Mase is the smart one. Where’s Big L now And Jim still fighting in the streets t forty something

  • @dandojambo1176
    @dandojambo1176 2 роки тому +13

    Big created a style that transcend hip hop forever 😎🗣️💨🔥

  • @asktizz8034
    @asktizz8034 3 місяці тому +3

    Jim a weirdo ! U can tell he use to wanna be down

  • @acidmack1041
    @acidmack1041 2 роки тому +7

    Jim still mad that the most successful cat from their clique didn't carry him

  • @ericatkinson2752
    @ericatkinson2752 3 місяці тому +3

    Jim took the convo on some clown s×××

  • @johanmassy5290
    @johanmassy5290 2 роки тому +35

    He was smart for as you put it "Mase never trusted me (Fat Joe) again". If not for the Harlem love Big L. (R.I.P.) & Mase had this story may have concluded violently. Truth is many in Harlem & NYC were hating on how Mase fan base blew up + the fact he was embraced by Puffy, Biggie LOX & R.I.P. Darkman X!

    • @brandonlujoso7447
      @brandonlujoso7447 2 роки тому +6

      Nah that’s not the truth, the truth is Mase did a lot of sucka shii in Harlem… I’m from Harlem so I know the bs he was did

    • @lward528
      @lward528 2 роки тому +2

      @@brandonlujoso7447 A WHOLE lotta sucka shit. R.I.P. Baby Maine & Pop Lotti.

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 роки тому +1

      @@brandonlujoso7447 All I heard him do was sleep with his godson's mother(Maine's BM),Jimmy and Cam referenced a book he wrote and sign Harlem World to a bad deal...other than that what did he do?

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 роки тому +2

      @@lward528 wait but I thought Maine and Lotti crews had beef before Mase slept with Maine's girl

    • @lward528
      @lward528 2 роки тому +3

      @@dtraversodt Mase pitted the 2 against each other, after he violated & put that song out. He shoulda stayed in his rapper lane, especially knowing he ain't gon bust a grape in a fruit fight.

  • @weedkanda6531
    @weedkanda6531 2 роки тому +25

    You try to jump me I'm not putting u on either. And then the guy mad at mase was over a chick..soooooooo?!?!!? What are we really saying

    • @asonc5043
      @asonc5043 2 роки тому +1

      Jumping someone and calling someone out is different man. Mace don’t rep the hood, L did. Listen to the songs. L call out his brothas every time. Mace? Never.

    • @asonc5043
      @asonc5043 2 роки тому +1

      I’d be mad too if I was all around better and someone else getting hyped.

    • @el84oro
      @el84oro 2 роки тому +1

      @@asonc5043 mase put cam on. Cam got his first deal on the strength of mase introducing him to big. Betha taught Jim how to rap. He stopped messing wit Jim over some other shit

    • @TA-ht4jo
      @TA-ht4jo 2 роки тому +1

      @@asonc5043 That’s not true. Mase called out a few of his homies like Cam

    • @Black-cd3lc
      @Black-cd3lc 2 роки тому +4

      So Mase making a group with Cardan, Blink, Loon and Baby Stase wasn’t putting Harlem on? Taking Cam to Big and cam getting his deal through Big with Un? Teaching Jim to rap? All of that is NOT showing love. All of this done while going 5x platinum on Julie solo debut and writing hits for Puff….make it make sense.

  • @TB-rt1hm
    @TB-rt1hm 2 роки тому +10

    i went to college with mase.

  • @abdullahhardy8799
    @abdullahhardy8799 2 роки тому +28

    Jim need to chill out!, because had it not been for Ma$e , JIM WOULD NOT BE RAPPING!, let’s talk about it!!

    • @TheSstretch68
      @TheSstretch68 2 роки тому +6

      TRUTH SPOKEN!!!!! Don’t bite the hand that fed you.

    • @acidmack1041
      @acidmack1041 2 роки тому +3

      Jim barely had a rap career anyway...he needs to remember that 🤣

    • @brianbrown4415
      @brianbrown4415 2 роки тому

      @Abdullah Hardy Exactly 💯Mase thought Jim Jones how to rap... Pop lotty aka popa 135 Broadway all day was looking out for Mase stop it Jim.. Talk about Gangsta Lou putting a T.O.S ON YOUR HEAD .. T.o.s Terminate on sight so Jim moved to Miami... or how about when The homie D. Only 5"5 back slap you in Newark New Jersey for not showing up to perform for his mother birthday.. he paid you already you didn't show up but Juelz did so he slap the shit out of you and you ran to your Bentley and drove/ crashed because you was still dizzy from the smack🤣true story!!!!! ask around Newark/ the bricks .. you love Mase always got his name in your mouth sucker gossip ass dude "Jimmy ". This ain't gossip true facts from B. Ninja

    • @ValentinoB
      @ValentinoB 10 місяців тому

      @@acidmack1041I mean, his verses on Real N*ggaz, I'm Ready, Come Home with Me are actually fire

  • @yahstruck67
    @yahstruck67 3 місяці тому +1

    Wow! Fat Joe corny as hell and I used to love young Joe. People get old and now think they have to gossip to make a living. God bless the dead. Rest easy Big L. The man is not here to defend this crap.

  • @rcvolts1283
    @rcvolts1283 2 роки тому +9

    Jim playin with his hair like a little girl happy her mom just braided it

    • @bribear0030
      @bribear0030 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @automatic1
    @automatic1 3 місяці тому +1

    So when made was broke everybody was cool with it but when he got money everybody started hating 😂 the hood is funny. Is Jim jones is even funnier saying the ppl that got the real money did t like him getting money. And him taught jim how to fish (RAP) and him hate him too lol

  • @Nekowhite93
    @Nekowhite93 3 місяці тому +1

    😔 “he wasn’t showing no love”
    Mase: sat down and TAUGHT JIM JONES HOW TO WRITE RAPS(literally taught him how to fish) Mase took cam’ron to biggie this starting Camron’s music career and by proxy helped father dipset if things like artistic lineage matter. So already mase hand held & directely put on his best friend and the next 20 years of harlems hip hop influence. And that’s just by putting cam in place, mase was bad boy entrainment it’s biggie in 1st place then it’s mase all of puffys 90 hits run outside of victory and all about the Benjamin mase wrote. Puff betrayed him, He Tried to put on harlem world the group, he got betrayed by his best friend in cam… big l another childhood friend tried to set him up to get robbed and this story from the tunnel, the hot 97 call where Jim shat on the person that is the reason he can even be a success (mase) and mase never even until this day has said any public negative thing towards jimmy. Not to mention the other street beefs you hear he had over 🐱 here we are all these years later and mase was right from the start! And peep this he outlived all that did him wrong and made more money than all of them and “thought he was the king of harlem” look at it like this. Till this day no other harlem rapper that I know of has sold more records than mase. And he only has 3 albums. Harlem world went platinum 4 times. All of the other harlem rappers album sales combined don’t equal that. He is until further notice the king of harlem.

  • @mase552000
    @mase552000 3 роки тому +14

    This was posted a month ago but ...First lol . I've never been first it feels good

    • @frenchy2047
      @frenchy2047 3 роки тому

      Booo!!! 🍅 👋🏾

    • @_bigmalo_
      @_bigmalo_ 2 роки тому

      LMAO

    • @NVTwistedProductions
      @NVTwistedProductions 2 роки тому +5

      Imagine feeling good about being first on a youtube comment.

    • @Loyale1229
      @Loyale1229 2 роки тому +6

      @@NVTwistedProductions Let the kid have his moment danggggg lol

    • @trueking1857
      @trueking1857 2 роки тому

      If that feels good too you then you need too get out more

  • @robertjackson8835
    @robertjackson8835 2 роки тому +23

    Rip Big L

  • @StuLenS_Gaming
    @StuLenS_Gaming Рік тому +3

    So Mase was the „Chief Keef“ of Harlem back then 🤣

  • @apeshit111906
    @apeshit111906 3 місяці тому +2

    Jimmy a hater

  • @mjones3911
    @mjones3911 2 роки тому +2

    Sounds like dudes was tight about Mase's success

  • @crystalstar3907
    @crystalstar3907 3 місяці тому +1

    Mase left Puff cause he wasn't fkn him

  • @atheaternearU804
    @atheaternearU804 3 місяці тому +1

    Free Max B. Coming home soon

  • @chrisgoffe5048
    @chrisgoffe5048 Рік тому +2

    ..always LOVED ma$e especially with 50 cent

  • @KD_SWAGGER
    @KD_SWAGGER 2 роки тому +63

    R.I.P. Big L! I'm all for hearing and reading about Big L stories. I highly assume Big L & Mase would have had diss records on each other at some time if Big L was alive today.

    • @jasongil6200
      @jasongil6200 2 роки тому +22

      The craziest thing was BiG L was literally undissable. Every bar was a punchline there wasent anything any one could say that he couldn’t flip

    • @columbusohio72
      @columbusohio72 2 роки тому +26

      @@jasongil6200 no such thing as "undissable". You sound like a groupie

    • @jasongil6200
      @jasongil6200 2 роки тому +12

      @@columbusohio72 also who dissed big L during his short life time on earth? Who has something bad to say about big L ? You know who influenced the style of slim shady?

    • @jasongil6200
      @jasongil6200 2 роки тому

      Do u know who the only person nas feared??🤣🤣🤣 you sound like someone who has zero to no knowledge about the foundation of hip hop…

    • @johanmassy5290
      @johanmassy5290 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah but that is just a presumption. If that's true why wouldn't Cam'Ron & Jim Jones be on that list along with Jay-Z?

  • @kennethmanson8871
    @kennethmanson8871 2 роки тому +2

    jim is corny grown man with twist he didn't have that energy when they chase him

  • @immunetoevil2324
    @immunetoevil2324 Рік тому +1

    LMAO At least have a couples dudes with you that really about that life....

  • @anythinggoesvideospart-2242
    @anythinggoesvideospart-2242 2 роки тому +39

    Damn, I wanted to hear more detail about the BIG L and LIL KIM situation that JIM JONES was speaking on.
    FAT JOE as usual had to cut the topic, and change it to a whole other Topic he wanna speak on.
    SMH 😡

    • @MaccaveliDon
      @MaccaveliDon 2 роки тому +6

      Yeh he cut that short I thought I missed something

    • @henny6566
      @henny6566 2 роки тому +1

      Fat Joe is terrible. The MF loves hearing himself talk. All he does is ask a question then cut the person off and somehow make it about himself by putting himself in the situation.

  • @BoomBoom-fw5zk
    @BoomBoom-fw5zk 2 роки тому +3

    I would love to know Harlem thinks about Jim Jones wearing blouses..???

  • @nemisis49
    @nemisis49 2 роки тому +2

    Jim a hater

  • @bigcohiba298
    @bigcohiba298 2 місяці тому +1

    But Cam said Mase used to give him stuff
    Sounds like Jim Jones cappin

  • @doobzthechamp3134
    @doobzthechamp3134 3 місяці тому +3

    BIG L BIG BROTHER WAS PUTTIN ON….
    AND L WAS STANDIN ON HIS NAME WIT BULLSHIT.

    • @fabolousjada5070
      @fabolousjada5070 3 місяці тому

      and they both got hit and big L got it to the face

  • @duwho27
    @duwho27 Місяць тому +1

    Jim from the bx, well they met him while he was working in a store in the bx, I don’t think he around when they was young

  • @hr9336
    @hr9336 7 місяців тому +1

    Mass said it himself. He was the dirty dude in the background until he met Puff. Then all these dudes expected him to take care of them before he take care of himself. No wonder he bounced on them clowns.

  • @dtraversodt
    @dtraversodt 2 роки тому +20

    What's crazy is Jimmy ain't meet Mase till '94 after knowing Zeke since kids in school in the Bronx and Harlem and Cam in '93 through Zeke. I don't know how true it is but Jimmy claims Mase taught him how to rap in exchange for him living in Taft with him and Cam before he blew up

    • @SupremeSpeaking
      @SupremeSpeaking 2 роки тому +14

      That’s a fact Mase taught Jimmy how to rhyme

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 роки тому +9

      @@SupremeSpeaking yup in '96 cause Mase said if Jim wanted to keep coming on tour he had to learn like Huddy did

    • @oshinsview4227
      @oshinsview4227 2 роки тому

      That is wholeheartedly not true of when Jomo met Mase

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 роки тому +8

      @@oshinsview4227 it had to be when they were 18 cause remember Jimmy was cool with Cam through Zeke before he was ever cool with Mase. Mase did say Cam and Jim hustled together and gave him their hand me downs so he could get fresh so that had to be happening around when they were all 17 or 18.

    • @dtraversodt
      @dtraversodt 2 роки тому

      @@oshinsview4227 😐

  • @qs721
    @qs721 2 місяці тому +1

    Jim really hates Mase. Jealous of his relationship with Cam too.

  • @MrAwak3
    @MrAwak3 Рік тому +1

    So pressing Mase because he was successful ? The more that comes out about Big L, the more you realize he was a low life.

  • @RJ_Focused
    @RJ_Focused Місяць тому +1

    Jim’s story doesn’t match Cam’s. Cam said Mase was outside

  • @S__B.
    @S__B. 3 місяці тому +1

    Jim ain’t bout that neither. Just ask true life & mendecees

  • @Ruby_Sterling
    @Ruby_Sterling Місяць тому +1

    They trying to act like Mase was a bum.

  • @coolchris478
    @coolchris478 3 місяці тому +1

    Jim so Jelly of Cam n Ma$e

  • @olliwest7341
    @olliwest7341 2 місяці тому +1

    What you laughing at? Smh. Goofies

  • @Until_january95
    @Until_january95 Місяць тому +1

    Jim wasn’t around lol he chatted like he was

  • @natsusatsujinki8342
    @natsusatsujinki8342 2 роки тому +2

    All that tough guy 💩 hardly lasts long. All the guys thinking pressing another man over jealousy hardly think how cheap a life can be bought.

  • @talk_yo_shiii8537
    @talk_yo_shiii8537 Рік тому +1

    How Could Mase put anybody ON when he was getting played by Puff, & give bk what when he had nothing & was tryna figure out how to get tf away from BadBoy

  • @itsamedjmario
    @itsamedjmario 2 роки тому +4

    Fat Joe felt like the biggest back stabbed ever ??? Let’s ask Big Puns wife and kids what THEY THINK 🤔

  • @flamboyentpromotions3471
    @flamboyentpromotions3471 2 місяці тому +1

    Jim don't know why Mase an L fell out

  • @michaeljohnson8353
    @michaeljohnson8353 6 місяців тому +2

    Mase was and is a better rapier than both of them. 🤷🏿‍♂️

  • @KING0420
    @KING0420 3 місяці тому +1

    Crabs in a bucket

  • @idkyoou
    @idkyoou 2 місяці тому +1

    Jealous ass dudes SMH Peep game folks.💯

  • @amaxwel3277
    @amaxwel3277 2 роки тому +2

    Mase Made more history then all of them and they still hating

  • @kaliefhampton2483
    @kaliefhampton2483 2 місяці тому +1

    So basically yall were hating? Ok