I'll never understand why people in rural England cover their rafters with straw-like material and still use wood-burning stoves. A family of farmers opposite us had a chimney fire at their quite large thatched house. The fire crew put it out but advised them to stay up overnight in case of hotspots - they went out to bingo and came back to find the roof ablaze. They hadn't had the chimney swept for eight years. I missed the drama, but my family said the fire was comparable to the fire in this video. The farming family repaired the house with a tiled roof!
Interesting to see how quick that it can go up, reminds me of what happened to a farmer down the road from me where his bails in his shed caught on fire with the shed with it
Hi Jan, The video doesn't show how poor the bales are, they are too wet for burning at the power station and also not suitable for bedding down the cows. so the best option is to burn them and then spread the ash on to the fields.
Flash backs to my childhood when the Coop used to burn there stubble after harvest behind my house, the heat was amazing even with the headlands ploughed as a fire break.
any commercial composter's in the area, they buy bales/at least haulage and use its carbon content to make sludge break down faster and add structure to the compost. or even mushroom growers
The water would be the problem. Compost is broken down by aerobic bacteria and the anaerobic bacteria in this straw would bring their process to an abrupt halt. The rat infestation would also be a major concern, since it would leave any compost contaminated with Weils Disease.
Our local village celebrated the Queen's Platinum Jubilee with a bonfire made up of waste straw and Wooden boxes stacked 20ft high. It didn't take long to get going and burnt for nearly 1hr
You have to let them know you are having a controlled fire and I work on a railway and whenever we have to burn out line side wood we have to ring them and let them know we are having a controlled fire
It requires 540 calories of heat to evaporate 1 gram of water. So as biomass it would be useless, since it would not produce enough additional heat to produce high pressure steam at the required rate to run the turbines.
Hi George I see in one of the U.K tractor magazines I get sent to me in Canada, the enviro tossers have basically banned used oil burners for workshops with "new rules/regulations and Fees". Didn't I see one in you guys workshop while you worked on the TW? if so and the rules affect you why not put a bale burner/boiler in the yard and use the waist straw to heat the workshop. Or is the issue now the government are so poor they want to tax the living crap out of any heat source thats free or real cheap.
Hi, Yes i read that in Classic tractor as well, you are correct we do have one and i can't believe how much they are charging for a permit and then an annual fee on top, not sure what we'll do but that is a good idea and wouldn't be to hard to make! :) do you have the same problems in Canada?
Hi Goerge thanks for the reply.Our workshop is heated with electric, some guys burn wood/pellets or waist oil. As far as I know in Manitoba where we are, there is no restrictions as long as it's a safety approved system . But as our fearless federal government leader has signed the climate control agreements in Paris. we are heading to huge provincial carbon taxes. Thats going to be real handy in the provinces that are - 30 oc /covered in snow for 4 -6 months, and you need to heat everything, or need parts or anything and may have to drive 50 to 100 miles plus to get it, and there is no public transport in a lot of places like this. I bet you can't build that straw burner you'd have to buy an " approved" one and that will be taxed when everybody switches over just the same . They always seem to win thats why we left the U.K in 2000. That euro referendums going to be real interesting !
You can easily buy yourself one of those big straw burning stove to heat your shop and your homes during the winter months with all that way straw instead of just burning it like that
its too bad you didn't have a biomass furnace, when you burnt it you could have burnt it and generated power at the same time.. win win for everyone i say
George and John both have mentioned it in other videos, the power company wont accept the bales if they are wet past the first string on the outer edge of the bale, and they can only use so much as bedding for their cows.
+MeJustMe. Every gram of water that was drying in the biomass furnace would subtract 540 calories of heat from the output. Coupled with the time that it would take to burn, it would be useless, reducing the heat output of the furnace to less than 10%.
Very flammable material straw. Perfect recipe for major disaster in shed if someone's mucking about with matches or didn't put cigarette out properly.
I'll never understand why people in rural England cover their rafters with straw-like material and still use wood-burning stoves. A family of farmers opposite us had a chimney fire at their quite large thatched house. The fire crew put it out but advised them to stay up overnight in case of hotspots - they went out to bingo and came back to find the roof ablaze. They hadn't had the chimney swept for eight years. I missed the drama, but my family said the fire was comparable to the fire in this video. The farming family repaired the house with a tiled roof!
did you use the ashes as fertilizer?
If we do that in Belgium, we go to jail :-/
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Interesting to see how quick that it can go up, reminds me of what happened to a farmer down the road from me where his bails in his shed caught on fire with the shed with it
In Holland we never seen this ;) what is the reason George?
i think to make room not sure tho we dont this in the states either
+JD Vlogger theirs no point in having it around the yard if ya dont need to have it
Hi Jan, The video doesn't show how poor the bales are, they are too wet for burning at the power station and also not suitable for bedding down the cows. so the best option is to burn them and then spread the ash on to the fields.
Ok thank you George, now i understand it. :-)
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came here from the quarry.
im saying
Flash backs to my childhood when the Coop used to burn there stubble after harvest behind my house, the heat was amazing even with the headlands ploughed as a fire break.
any commercial composter's in the area, they buy bales/at least haulage and use its carbon content to make sludge break down faster and add structure to the compost. or even mushroom growers
The water would be the problem. Compost is broken down by aerobic bacteria and the anaerobic bacteria in this straw would bring their process to an abrupt halt. The rat infestation would also be a major concern, since it would leave any compost contaminated with Weils Disease.
I would used this old straw as fire starters for the winter. I'm so tempted to find I could use as an oven to do some barbecuing
such awaste of good rope what are you gonnause now for tying things up
last year I managed to melt the wrap of 300 silage bales burning a stack of straw😕
Oh dear!
Why are you
Setting the bales on fire
quick tip if you leave bigger gaps and step baked that go up quicker and burn out quicker
Our local village celebrated the Queen's Platinum Jubilee with a bonfire made up of waste straw and Wooden boxes stacked 20ft high. It didn't take long to get going and burnt for nearly 1hr
Why do you burn that down? Its just so mad, we would have taken all of that....
Yes, it's an excellent biofuel.
+Andy Green they were too wet
and full of rats and would you have payed to get it took too your farm
Schlepperfahrer 718 same here old boy
Some of that straw looked like it was staring to rot.. thats why they were burning it, you dont wanna feed straw that is molding..
Do you give the fire brigade a call before you go and do that?
Yes we do
You have to let them know you are having a controlled fire and I work on a railway and whenever we have to burn out line side wood we have to ring them and let them know we are having a controlled fire
Sinky You i seen you im daggerwin video !!!
get out the marshmallows 😁😁
Marsh mellows and hotdogs too ...picnic time Bill.😁
A brilliant fire educational video..it commands respect..
How long would this take to burn out ?
Look at all tht lovely green grass haha
There was an old sugar beet clamp near mine that burnt up,the fire brigade an all were there
that will kill the rats in there !!!!!!! great video
Do u use the ash
Can you do a tour of all the machinery.
Evan if the bales are crap is it not a waste? There must be something somone could use them for surely!
Where's the marshmallows
you can sit around the camp fire
Does it ever go down? Or just a big black blob forever there?
why do you do this can power stations use this if it has to be burned ??? SC UK
That should take care of a few of them rats.
get a pack of hotdogs and grill lol
Scary!!! Do you have to inform local fire service?
Yes Mik, we let them know so that they don't send an appliance out unnecessarily.
Why burn it? Instead of giving it away.
how do you have so many big deer machines
Could you not sell it to some biomass power station somewhere?
no. to wet. poor bales. no use
If you let them dry out for a while, they could become useful.
no they wouldn't and rats where in it
It requires 540 calories of heat to evaporate 1 gram of water. So as biomass it would be useless, since it would not produce enough additional heat to produce high pressure steam at the required rate to run the turbines.
Josh Ower Agri Photography rats are in all straw
health and safety own be happy to see it were is your yard
Hang on im waiting to hear the sirens,..neenaw neenaw..
Hi George I see in one of the U.K tractor magazines I get sent to me in Canada, the enviro tossers have basically banned used oil burners for workshops with "new rules/regulations and Fees". Didn't I see one in you guys workshop while you worked on the TW? if so and the rules affect you why not put a bale burner/boiler in the yard and use the waist straw to heat the workshop. Or is the issue now the government are so poor they want to tax the living crap out of any heat source thats free or real cheap.
Hi, Yes i read that in Classic tractor as well, you are correct we do have one and i can't believe how much they are charging for a permit and then an annual fee on top, not sure what we'll do but that is a good idea and wouldn't be to hard to make! :) do you have the same problems in Canada?
Hi Goerge thanks for the reply.Our workshop is heated with electric, some guys burn wood/pellets or waist oil. As far as I know in Manitoba where we are, there is no restrictions as long as it's a safety approved system . But as our fearless federal government leader has signed the climate control agreements in Paris.
we are heading to huge provincial carbon taxes. Thats going to be real handy in the provinces that are - 30 oc /covered in snow for 4 -6 months, and you need to heat everything, or need parts or anything and may have to drive 50 to 100 miles plus to get it, and there is no public transport in a lot of places like this. I bet you can't build that straw burner you'd have to buy an " approved" one and that will be taxed when everybody switches over just the same . They always seem to win thats why we left the U.K in 2000. That euro referendums going to be real interesting !
Hear George how do you get away with burning straw in this quantity
Mark Eden as long as its on private property and you have rang the local fire department and they have give it the ok you are sorted
Dominic
Not commenting on the actual fire but the emissions ie Smoke as a pollutant
Are there any rules or regulations for burning this type of waste?
+Ian Yes theyre are, used to be with burning stubble a long time ago which got banned due to health and safety.
+TechnoMoffat was hoping you'll tell us the basic rules. ;-)
Nice video!! How much money would there of been if u had to have sold them??!
You'd practically be paying to get rid of them because of the quality of them
You can easily buy yourself one of those big straw burning stove to heat your shop and your homes during the winter months with all that way straw instead of just burning it like that
can't straw be put back on the fields and turned into the ground to improve the soil
why are you burning those bales ?
they were left over bales from last year
George you and Liz had a fall out ? Noticed her name at the end wasn't there I.E lizsaundersphotography lol
Haha lol, don't think i've upset her!
What no rats ?
@CIWJL Haha! :)
Imagine all the rats in there like oh fuck I’m gone
Use a bale shredder and spread them over the fields and plow them in or disc them in.
i thought u were not allowed to burn straw anymore
Thats the stubble that your banned from
2 words:
the quarry
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Would it not be possible to turn the hay into compost or plough it into the fields rather than burn it?
well the ash gets spread on the field
whoop de doo. A pile of compost does a lot more than a shovel or two full of ash, and has no smoke pollution side effects.
In germany you could nerver do that
One of method how to kill the rats =) =)
i just subbed!
Grilled rat, slightly chard
Yum!🤣
its too bad you didn't have a biomass furnace, when you burnt it you could have burnt it and generated power at the same time.. win win for everyone i say
surely the power station would have took them, the way thats burning..
Obviosly too wet the power station is fussy
so the rich people are having a barbi, they havent seen yours, now thats what you call a barbique, now where did i put that side of beef...
they probably burnt it to spread it back on to there field as potash
is this mrsealyp filming this.......lol
The next time send the bales to OLF he can make compost from it .
yea cause that would clearly work nice 1
Carbon cycle moves on one step
Why do you burn old hay?
I thought some young punks had took to the straw with matches 😂 phew !!
Same
+theoverworked farmer happens to often here in Scotland
same
that's criminal now in 2024
y not sell it
It's not farm Sim whera bales are worth £200 odd pound a bale and stay in perfect condition all year round
Why did You do that
cause there wet old bales rats in the stack and no use
Why did u do that?😔😔
I bet forage aid would be glad of that!
***** I know it happened to somebody that drives for us before
at night, with drone plz.
Wow that's a lot of waste straw for one year
not for them thats none
Oh fair enough.. we don't even get half of that per year
Jake Downs MGA yea that's probably only 3% of there total straw
Hey kids wanna preview of what hell looks like well here it is
Concrete mixer on job
Could have been made in the paper
WHY You doing that
get the hoses out
That will be the end off the rats
Wow!!!huge
Takes care of a the pests too me and my father do this
🚜🔥🚒
RIP rats
Bloody hell they go black quick
All you need now is a couple burgers and a few kababs
pity these cant go to a power company and produce electricity
George and John both have mentioned it in other videos, the power company wont accept the bales if they are wet past the first string on the outer edge of the bale, and they can only use so much as bedding for their cows.
Syd Syko pretty bad decision from the power company. These burn no problem.
+MeJustMe. Every gram of water that was drying in the biomass furnace would subtract 540 calories of heat from the output. Coupled with the time that it would take to burn, it would be useless, reducing the heat output of the furnace to less than 10%.
There's nothing wrong with that straw
I thougt that but on a comment higher up George replys explaing i thought it was a wast too.
+Harvey Finch aye
A lot of waste
It is used after the fire to spread ashes on the fields.
What a waste!
***** haha at least I'm not the only one
ive seen it happen natrually go up in flames on a hot day in a barn. The whole barn went up in flames.
on my farm straw is like 10 times worse and it is used for bedding
health and safety won't be happy
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great vid George that will cook them dammed rats just rite!
Where's the marshmallows