DIY 9:1 Unun End Fed Random Wire Antenna for Ham Radio

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  • This video discusses End Fed antennas and particularly End Fed Random Wire antennas for ham radio. Additionally, we go through the process of building a 9:1 Unun for an EFRW Antenna.
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  • @TheSmokinApe
    @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому +3

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  • @lonmoer9966
    @lonmoer9966 2 роки тому +9

    I'm glad to know I'm not the only one to strip the plastic insulators off wire terminals.

  • @BargainBasementHamRadio
    @BargainBasementHamRadio 2 роки тому +3

    Building toys is the best part of this hobby!!! I've started playing with my radio gear recently and realized how many antennas and other "things" I've made..lol!! Good stuff Ape!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree, thanks for stopping by Ron 👍

  • @Ragchewer
    @Ragchewer Рік тому +4

    With a 117 foot sloper and a 9:1 UNUN I get great performance on 160-6 meters! The wire goes from 10 feet at the edge of my roof to 50 feet in a tree. Using 125 feet of RG8X and a line isolator at the back of the transceiver; all bands are under 3:1, so the internal tuner gets me the entire HF spectrum!
    By the way; earth grounding on the antenna side of the line isolator produces a dramatic reduction in noise.
    W6PDL

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Hey Dale, that’s awesome you are having such luck with it 👍

  • @GeezerDust
    @GeezerDust Рік тому +3

    I was using the 84 ft wire with a 16-17 ft counterpoise and a LDG auto tuner before I moved, worked great. I now have less space and must go to a shorter wire, maybe 41 ft. Great video with most everything you need to know about setting up one of these antennas.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Hey Michael, that’s what I like so much about these antennas… the versatility. Thanks for watching and I’m glad you liked it 👍

  • @paulgarcia1566
    @paulgarcia1566 Рік тому

    Thanks Ape. I'm sitting down with this video this morning with a big cup of coffee and getting everything sorted out.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      That’s awesome Paul, good luck with the project 👍

  • @lonewolf025
    @lonewolf025 7 місяців тому +2

    I'm looking to do this project soon. Gonna have to watch this vid a few more times and read all the comments before I sit down to make it.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  7 місяців тому

      It’s a fun project, good luck with it 👍

  • @oldbassist60
    @oldbassist60 9 місяців тому

    Good job on both construction and a clear and concise explanation. I always install a CMC in addition to the one 8K-ohm choke that's permanently attached to the output of the rig as well as randomly placed, cheap EMI split beads (barrels) clipped on the coax feedline. When using ferrite cores split or not, use the proper size 31 mix core and the "turns-squared" advantage of 3-4 turns over a larger core versus a long string of snap on ferrites. 2-turns equals 4 beads. 3-turns equals 9 beads, etc... The other thing that causes a rise in SWR as frequency increases is leakage inductance and distributed capacitance of the windings as the turns approach a 1/4 wavelength. 73's AD6AE

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому

      Thanks for the info OB. I have used beads in the past but do prefer the toe-roids 👍

  • @jaym1301
    @jaym1301 2 роки тому +2

    I'm impressed by how easily your're able to get the wing nuts on without them wanting to cross-thread like always happens to me.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      I guess I am a pro! Thanks for watching Jay

    • @davep6977
      @davep6977 Рік тому +2

      buy better quality hardware

  • @dougdaniels
    @dougdaniels 2 роки тому +2

    Very good explanation. I have had great luck with 49:1 EFHW antennas, both bought and built, but the 9:1 I built has given me all kinds of problems getting it to resonate. This weekend I'm going to tear it apart and rebuild it from this video. 👍

  • @bduff5004
    @bduff5004 3 місяці тому

    The BEST DIY antenna video I have come across. Thanks for taking the time to explain what many just take for granted

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  3 місяці тому

      Thanks BD, glad you liked it 👍

  • @rickb.6068
    @rickb.6068 2 роки тому +1

    Excellent, I've been thinking of building one of these for quite some time.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Hopefully the video is helpful 👍

  • @garyh8315
    @garyh8315 2 роки тому

    Great explanation into the unit that is a 9:1. A good antenna for /p where there is a need to be wary of EMF to those members of the public that may not be aware. I use my own with wire, vertical on a 10m f/glass pole.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Thanks for checking it out Gary 👍

  • @W6IWN_Radio
    @W6IWN_Radio Рік тому +1

    Crimping ain't easy! Thanks for the great information Ape 👍👍

  • @eddy2561
    @eddy2561 Рік тому +1

    I've run both the 9:1 and 49:1 and both antennas worked very well....the 9:1 was much shorter which helped in my installation - however, I was constantly fighting RFI both in the house and my IC7300. And yes, I tried all the recommended fixes for RFI and none worked to my satisfaction!! The 49:1 EFHW has never caused RFI so it's the wire antenna I use. 73/K6SDW

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      the 9:1's are more noisy, the 49:1 is my daily antenna as well 👍

  • @ki4dbk
    @ki4dbk Рік тому

    Yeah. I'm using one now and it lit up my random wire. 👏

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Nice, I love the random wire antennas.

  • @jimcaddis9417
    @jimcaddis9417 Рік тому +7

    I would Never PUT A LINE ISOLATOR AT THE ANTENNA SIDE. 1. It will effect your SWR and 2. Any interference picked up on the co-ax will feed direct to the TX. After decades of trying various lengths and configurations I found that a 10.14 Meter wire and 9:1 using the co-ax as a counterpoise around 10m at least of RG213 will perform well from 40 to 6m (if ATU goes above 30Mhz) The Isolator should be before the ATU. Best configurations are horizontal or L config. A word on toroid rings, a 140 may be fine for 100w CW or SSB but is not suitable for say FT8 above 25w, many commercial antenna unun's state that these are not suitable for constant power data modes. In that case up to 100w a 240/43 9.1 with PTFE wire is required at least. On the home brew Line Isolator use the same 240/43 with RG214 Coax Cable Double Shielded.

    • @mrtechie6810
      @mrtechie6810 8 місяців тому

      Also interested in one good for 80m. I need a good multiband antenna for Hermes Lite 2 SDR transceiver!

  • @Tocsin-Bang
    @Tocsin-Bang 9 місяців тому

    I put up an EFRW with a 9:1 balun, and a ferrite chole on the shack end of the co-ax (13ft long). Works great on 40 & 20, first contact was 3,000+ miles with 3.5W SSB on 20! The antenna runs slightly down, with the end just 6ft from the ground. I use a usSDX+ and an ATU-100.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому

      Sounds like an awesome setup, thanks for the comment bro 👍

  • @mikemiles3068
    @mikemiles3068 Рік тому +1

    Good video Ape and while I was re-watching this video my wife came in with my with my order of wire and Toroids from JPM SUPPLY. Time for me to ge busy going to wind (2) 49/1 and (1) 9/1. JPM SUPPLY is very FAST, I ordered this on SATURDAY and here on Tuesday, that’s fast and THANKS for recommending them❗️👍 73 KV5P

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Hey Mike. JPM is great, good luck with the builds 👍

  • @buzzsah
    @buzzsah 2 роки тому

    Nicely done.

  • @spencerhochstetler
    @spencerhochstetler Рік тому +2

    Your soldering iron heats up the connection WAY faster than mine! lol (that same music plays while I solder, though)... Thanks for the lesson!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Thanks for checking it out Spencer 👍

  • @AuSnuff
    @AuSnuff 8 місяців тому

    Noticed 4,5,6 and 7 colors are reversed in the graphic, but then corrected in 8. 9 and 1 the critical ones. I'm using the 14 ga. enameled magnet wire so following the windings closely. Love the way you explain things, no hype and down to earth! Subscribed. 73

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  8 місяців тому

      Thanks AuSnuff, glad you liked it!

  • @hughpatterson1480
    @hughpatterson1480 11 днів тому

    I wish I had a dollar for each time some sad ham told me "You can't use that. It won't work. You should know better as an extra class ham, blah blah and blah." I have a 9:1 Unun End Fed Random Wire antenna as my permanent antenna and it works great. I also made a point of using mainly components that I was told wouldn't work. With this antenna, I've reached Hungary from Northern California, which is 6,100 miles. The only adjustments I've made have been getting the antenna higher up and positioning the counterpoise. This was a really informative video! I always have problems with the order in which the wires are connected coming off of the toroid (I suspect I would have done better if I was wearing those magical "splaining" glasses). This video cleared things up. Thanks again...73...KN6KNB

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  10 днів тому

      Hey Hugh, I guess they read that on the internet somewhere... couldn't be further from the truth.

  • @cWatts-zv3oo
    @cWatts-zv3oo Рік тому

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @vk6xcj
    @vk6xcj 4 місяці тому

    Very good ,well explained 😊

  • @trig6712
    @trig6712 11 місяців тому

    Excellent much appreciated

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  11 місяців тому

      Thanks Trig, glad you liked it 👍

  • @markvining1760
    @markvining1760 Рік тому

    Awesome video

  • @waynebellamy1217
    @waynebellamy1217 Рік тому

    Hi nice video, I built a similar set-up a while ago but with very thin SOTABEAMS Wire, at 52 feet, it's in a SLOPER setup, it works quite well but sometimes I struggle at my legal limit of 10 watts, but it's quite a stealth antenna,

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      Hey Wayne, I had a 9:1 for my first "real" HF antenna. I love them 👍

  • @george_KC1TQF
    @george_KC1TQF 8 місяців тому

    Great information. I saw what you did there at 10:40, LOL

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  8 місяців тому +1

      Lol, thanks George! Glad it was helpful…

  • @frequencywatchers
    @frequencywatchers 9 місяців тому

    I Love The Experimental Mindset. Just LOVE IT !

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому

      Thanks FW, I appreciate the comment!

  • @VASGENR6DJF
    @VASGENR6DJF Рік тому

    good work

  • @jonmcadams5401
    @jonmcadams5401 2 роки тому +3

    Thanks! A great low cost multi-band stealth antenna! I have a 71' sloper with 9:1 unun, 50' RG8x, & common mode choke at my XPA125B amp. No tuner needed on 20, 17, 15, 12, 10. Can use the XPA125B's internal tuner for 160, 80/75, 60, 40, 30. I fortunately get SWR of 1:6 to 1 or less on all HF bands. Have made SSB DX contacts from California to Europe, Caribbean, Asia on 40, 20, 17 SSB, & get 5/9 reports on 80, 40 SSB nets. Nope, NOT a hex beam, Yagi or multi wavelength loop, but still gives lots of QRP & 100 watt thrills!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Thats awesome, thanks for sharing Jon 👍

  • @jtandchelvlogs3709
    @jtandchelvlogs3709 2 роки тому +1

    Great video! I am planning one of these now after watching your build. By way of comparison, would you be able to also show the difference in changing the antenna side to one of the longer wires maybe a 107/119?
    Keep up the great vids!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Hey JT, glad you liked the video and thanks for watching. You should be fine if you stick to one of the recommended lengths; the long you go the better for the low end bands.

  • @petermajor4599
    @petermajor4599 Рік тому

    Hello ! Thanks for all - BUTT please tell us the TYPE from that FERRO AMIDON. Thank you so 👋👋💪💪🍀🍀

  • @Olli_Kuhta
    @Olli_Kuhta 11 місяців тому

    Thank You :)

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  11 місяців тому

      Sure thing, thanks for watching Juha 👍

  • @bruceweight7319
    @bruceweight7319 Рік тому

    I love the ptfe wire. I have a triple core I run 450 Watts no problem ssb

  • @peregon_tv
    @peregon_tv 4 місяці тому

    Благодарю за подробную инструкцию. Ты единственный хорошо всё объяснил и показал. Другие не показывают как правильно соединить провода.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  4 місяці тому +1

      Thank you, glad you liked the video 👍

  • @KU9L
    @KU9L Рік тому

    I seriously enjoyed this video and look forward to the test results and impedance measurements. I am seeing so many use small company commercial versions without a counterpoise and would like to see the performance differences as I am still confused on this, Dave- KU9L

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      Check out this video: ua-cam.com/video/Y7vaXcaeVgM/v-deo.html. I always tell folks, ABC... Always Be Counterpoising.

  • @WR3ND
    @WR3ND 3 місяці тому

    Thanks, buddy. I did this with 14 gauge solid copper core. Bit of a job on my fingers to wind, especially since they are still healing from sharpening my axes. But anyway, I think it turned out real nice. Cheers.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  3 місяці тому +1

      Oh man, 14g is no walk in the park 😳

    • @WR3ND
      @WR3ND 3 місяці тому

      Your method of feeding the wire through helped a lot. It was firm enough that the loop it formed gave good leverage to also tighten the wind while pulling it through. 👍

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  3 місяці тому +1

      Glad it was helpful 👍

  • @bruceweight7319
    @bruceweight7319 10 місяців тому

    Nice Job. looks good. I have been thinking of trying one in place of my 80m EFHW I have one built but can't remember if I tested it.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому

      Thanks, this kit was an easy build 👍

  • @brianmartin7964
    @brianmartin7964 4 місяці тому

    Does the number of times you wrap the wires around to torad make a difference?

  • @hustonherman7870
    @hustonherman7870 Рік тому

    Thank you I've been a Technician only for many years ever since the no code change. However recently I have found so much interest in the HF bands and QRP projects. I just picked up a used G90 and hope to take the GENERAL Lic very soon and open the door to HF. Your video was awesome and can't wait to build one myself. Does anyone here have the answer to this: LDG shows no counterpoise on the 9:1 unun I will be using a 100' RG8X to the unun. Planned on no counterpoise with Ferrite Beads at transceiver to avoid possible rf return. Transmit is at 20W max. Or do I need a 1:1 Balun choke? Any info would be great. THANKS again for this great video!!!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Hey USA P! Good luck on the test. Many companies who make 9:1 antennas claim you don’t need a counterpoise, they rely on the coax shield to act as the counterpoise. While this would work, it’s not optimal or ideal. You r beads would reduce the RF from coming back into the radio but I would encourage you to add a balun / choke at the antenna feed point and use a counterpoise if possible.

  • @scottpastor1
    @scottpastor1 7 місяців тому

    “Box of these nuts” got me.😂😂

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  7 місяців тому

      Thanks for watching Scott 👍

  • @markanderson8066
    @markanderson8066 9 місяців тому

    I built a couple of these a few years ago. They are my go to antenna for POTA. I use a random length counterpoise and no common mode choke. Btw, the choke IS an unun, but a different build for common mode. I do not understand how this antenna generates RFI tho. POTA on and thanks for the video. WB2SMK

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому

      I do like these types of antennas, the CMC is a result of the antenna being unbalanced 👍

  • @HOAHamRadio
    @HOAHamRadio 2 роки тому +4

    "...we're just gonna white trash this...." LOL. Fun to watch Ape. I enjoy how you teach as you go.

  • @MrLittlmike22
    @MrLittlmike22 2 роки тому

    amazing
    clear
    detaled love it!
    only question is
    PTFE 16awg wire - is that soid core? or stranded?
    and does that matter?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому +1

      It 18g stranded, it’s debatable but I’ve had no problems with stranded 👍

  • @the_mad_swimbaiter455
    @the_mad_swimbaiter455 2 роки тому

    Second time watching. I want to build more! I need to order toroids! Yall should sell em! Wrapped and unwrapped!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Haha! Glad you liked the video Swimbaiter 👍

  • @ponzzo5663
    @ponzzo5663 15 днів тому

    Thank you of great video, very good content and structure. Question: Did you release video of measuring and using this antenna?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  15 днів тому

      Hey Ponz. I have used it quite a bit and it works well but I don’t think I’ve done any videos showing that 👍

  • @alanthomas8817
    @alanthomas8817 11 місяців тому +1

    These are great, but when are you going to post part two set-up tune and test? been looking but haven't found it. :-)

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  11 місяців тому +1

      I can do something, it's my current antenna 👍

    • @michaelhope007
      @michaelhope007 3 місяці тому

      Just curious have you done part 2?

  • @brandonashley9958
    @brandonashley9958 2 роки тому +1

    Awesome! New to Ham and I'm going to build this as my first antenna. I do have one question about the Remington wire. Is that a specific wire? I'm seeing all sorts of wire on the website and just wondering which one I need.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому +1

      It’s 18g Teflon coated, hope that helps.

  • @the_mad_swimbaiter455
    @the_mad_swimbaiter455 2 роки тому +1

    Ape! You are tinkererier than me lol. I went to that torrid website, so cool! After building your cahrtenna I went back and checked my first two Amazon ballun kits and they weren't even soldered! I guess I thought the magwire would conduct just on contact! How wrong I was! Now I have a WORKING 9:1!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому

      Lol, that’s awesome you got it working 👍

  • @dwallich56
    @dwallich56 Рік тому +1

    Smoke - really good EFRW build presentation here. Thank you.
    I think that I am getting smarter (?) about understanding EFRW and EFHF wave antenna designs, but one question sticks out - why do we use a wound toroid with a capacitor (an LC?) for an EFHW, but only a wound toroid (no capacitor) for a EFRW?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      It has to do with additional capacitance on the high harmonics of the EFHW, here is a link where I talk about it in more detail: ua-cam.com/video/QtIqJ60KhoY/v-deo.html

    • @dwallich56
      @dwallich56 Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe TU, 73

  • @ExperienceKevsworld
    @ExperienceKevsworld Рік тому

    Got my IC-718 yesterday. Got all the parts I need for this except the feed line choke. So close to getting on HF.
    Question, is there anything I can do to substitute for the choke you use at the feed point? Thanks Ape, I watch all your videos over most for info!

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      Hey Kevin. No choke, look at grounding options or at a minimum a counterpoise…. Try 17’ for starters. I have a video on DIY choke baluns you might want to check. Good luck with the project 👍

  • @davep6977
    @davep6977 Рік тому +1

    I've always been a metal ham. Yagi's, beams, etc.. I just put up a 9:1 EFNR approx 180 feet long and 70 ft. of coax to unun from where I have 3-240/31 chokes. Inside the shack I have a 1:1 isolator. Almost zero rf in shack except on 18 and 21 Mhz when amp is on at 450 watts (I get rasp in my computer speakers)
    End result:

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Hey Dave. 180 feet, that a monster for sure. Glad to hear it's working for you and thanks for watching 👍

  • @JoAnnP38
    @JoAnnP38 2 роки тому +1

    Question: if you are using the coax shield as the counterpoise as many home stations might, is it counterproductive to install a choke at the antenna feed point? I currently am using a choke before the coax enters my shake and I seem to be having some good results with that. It seems like I have had some trouble tuning the random wire if there is a choke at the antenna feed point AND I am using the coax shield as the counterpoise.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 роки тому +3

      Hey JoAnn. If you choke at the antenna feed point you do impact the ability to use the coax as a counterpoise. You should at a minimum choke and the shack if not at the feed point. Personally I want to use the coax as transmission line only, and a counterpoise as the counterpoise. But there are a ton of opinions on the matter, best of luck 👍

    • @waynebellamy1217
      @waynebellamy1217 Рік тому +1

      Hi, I'm using a clamp on ferrite core at my feed point which is indoors, and 25 feet of the coax is wound as an ugly balun choke. I'm not using a counterpoise, but also using an MFJ Artificial ground with about 16 feet of wire as an earth.

  • @rossbatson1296
    @rossbatson1296 7 місяців тому

    So when you say the wire is cut at 41', is that the distance from the strain relief to the isolator/dog bone? I'm assuming it doesn't include what you loop back, but figured I would ask.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  7 місяців тому

      From the wing nut to where it fold back. 👍

  • @daveengstrom9250
    @daveengstrom9250 2 місяці тому

    What kind of Toroid would I want for a 160M antenna? (you mentioned the numbers). Later in the video you mentioned wire lengths. So, if I understand correctly, for 1.9MHz I would want to stay in the middle between 246 ft and 493 ft which would give me something like 369.5 ft. Is that correct? (thats an awful long wire).

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  2 місяці тому +1

      I’d start with a an FT240-61 with about 155’ feet of element. Then I would adjust from there if needed. 👍

  • @bruceweight7319
    @bruceweight7319 Рік тому

    I mount my pl-239 on the inside and make sure the big hole is bigger so the collar of coax connector will fit in the hole. I get better connections with the crimp on lugs.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      That's a good idea, thanks Bruce 👍

    • @bruceweight7319
      @bruceweight7319 Рік тому

      At first I drill the hole to a tight fit, then I just drill the screw holes through the flange holes and drop the screws in as I go then drill the main hole bigger afterwards so everything still fits and is centered. the only time I have had a problem is if i have a tight fit in a small box and need that extra 1/8" of space to fit everything in.

  • @letsgo4629
    @letsgo4629 3 місяці тому

    Using the red crimper dies on a blue terminal won't crimp it tight enough. Adding solder is compensation, but where the hot solder doesn't fill, it's too loose. You're also using the insulated crimper die on uninsulated terminals. There is a different die set for uninsulated terminals that you should be using.

  • @jaynesjunction
    @jaynesjunction Рік тому

    Does your element need to be bare wire that touches your eyelet on the unun? I see you clamped it with the protective covering still on

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      Hey Ken, yes it will need connectivity.

  • @myockey
    @myockey 10 місяців тому

    You mentioned the antenna wire length. Does that length include the strain relief at the start and the tuning length at the end or did you add extra for those lengths?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  10 місяців тому +1

      I include the strain relief 👍

  • @adailyllama4786
    @adailyllama4786 Рік тому

    Where did you obtain the wingnut and lugs from? I am having a heck of a time finding examples similar to what you used in the video.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +2

      Hey DL, it was either on Amazon or the HW shop 👍

  • @GeorgeFuchs
    @GeorgeFuchs 2 роки тому

    Very informative, thanks.

  • @n8nkqrp595
    @n8nkqrp595 Рік тому +1

    In my humble opinion, the better solution is to use a wire that you resonate on the lowest F band of interest and use it with a multi-tap UNUN for a multi-band, no tuner needed solution :)

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      I haven't made a multitap yet, I should give it a try. Thanks for the comment!

  • @oobihdahboobeeboppah
    @oobihdahboobeeboppah Рік тому

    So, I wasn't able to [easily] locate where you actually tested the end-fed as a follow up to this video at least not from the titles. Could you please provide either the link here or respond if you decided not to do a follow up video. I've very closely paralleled your steps in building end-fed antennas w/o being aware of your build! End-fed antennas are my favorite portable go to.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      I've used it with great results quite a bit since the build, I haven't done a dedicated follow up...

  • @dwallich56
    @dwallich56 Рік тому

    One more question, please? Can I use a FT140-43 toroid core instead of a ft240-43 core? Do I only sacrifice a bit of power handling capability, or is there another reason?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      You can but as you mention you will loose some power handling. Thanks for checking out the video 👍

    • @dwallich56
      @dwallich56 Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe TU, 73

  • @58Alpha
    @58Alpha 5 місяців тому

    Do ypu have a follow up video showing this antenna working?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  5 місяців тому +1

      So I don't, but I use this antenna often and it works very well...

  • @mikeZL3XD7029
    @mikeZL3XD7029 7 місяців тому

    Totally unrelated to what you're talking about, I have an issue with an old ZS6BKW wire antenna that never really worked that well and the ladder- line broke away from the balun last year, after some seriously strong winds here.
    It is set up as an Inverted Vee and I want to remove the balun so that I can have RG-213 as the transmission line into my shack.
    Should I just dump the whole antenna or can I at least use the element wires as a dipole?
    Because of the size of my property, I can't fit anything larger than this antenna to get any decent directionality.
    I do however have an MFJ tuner, if that is any help at all.
    What are your thoughts on this?, I'd really like to get back on HF if I could.
    Sorry to lay a question like this on you with next to no information.
    73,
    Mike,
    ZL3XD

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  7 місяців тому

      Hey Mike, I'd keep the element wire and the window line and build a new antenna. That ZS6BKW is a big antenna so you probably have the materials to make something else.

  • @rfburns3472
    @rfburns3472 7 місяців тому

    Nice build. What is the maximum power handing capability?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  7 місяців тому

      I've never pushed it past 100W, if I had to guess I'd say about 350W digital and 500W SSB.

  • @closeoutsaleusa5322
    @closeoutsaleusa5322 Рік тому

    How do you lay out the counterpoise? Opposite direction of the antenna wire? Directly under the antenna wire? And wouldn't work better with a series of radials?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      I try to lay the poise the opposite direction. The counter poise is used to work against the AC current in the element, AC is equal and opposite flow. Typically we use a ground plane of radials to couple the antenna system to the ground and reduce the amount of RF reflected and not absorbed by the Earth.

    • @closeoutsaleusa5322
      @closeoutsaleusa5322 Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe You need a good RF ground to reflect the signal so the signal will launch. Otherwise, the earth surface will absorb the signal, rendering the antenna system ineffective. I put together the 9:1 unun per your video - which is well done, by the way. I strung up 71 feet of 18 gauge insulated wire and laid down a 25 ft counterpoise to the left of the antenna. A sweep showed low SWR across all ham bands with 17 meters at full resonance. There's less than 6 ft of RG-58 coax from the tuner in my shack to the feed point of the antenna. I made some contacts on 40, 20 and 17. Signal reports were 559, 549. I added another 25' counterpoise fanned out 6 to 7 feet from the first counterpoise which slightly raised the SWR on those 3 bands after tuning (which I expected) and my signal reports came back at 579 to 599. Is this a coincidence or is this something to consider for permanent installation?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      I wouldn't be concerned about the SWR as much as the better signal reports. I'd try to use that config long term...

    • @closeoutsaleusa5322
      @closeoutsaleusa5322 Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe I laid out a 33 ft counterpoise in the opposite direction and got great signal reports on 80 through 15. No activity on 12 or 10. But the antenna tunes great. Thanks for you video and your help.

  • @DAVIDGREGORYKERR
    @DAVIDGREGORYKERR Рік тому +1

    A 9:1 or a 16:1 should both work really well, if using stranded wire stay away from 26.0-27Mhz as that is the resonant frequency of the Chlorine Atoms in PVC.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      Never tried a 16:1, thanks for the info!

  • @DayTradingCourse
    @DayTradingCourse Рік тому

    Another advantage of an EFRW antenna is that the torroid doesn't heat up like an EFHW.

  • @Maker_Mikey
    @Maker_Mikey 3 місяці тому

    Next trick in the book to fit the very small eye crimp connector: drive the point of a scratch awl from the eye side through the crimp wings to separate them enough to insert the wire.

  • @JaredCorgan
    @JaredCorgan Рік тому

    9:1 is turns ratio, have you tried connecting a 450 ohm resistor to the antenna side and checking it with a spec an?

  • @donaldsmith3048
    @donaldsmith3048 11 місяців тому

    I made a EFHW for 40-10. Does a EFRW have anything better than my EFHW? I get 4 bands with out tuner, and can get others with my tuner. I can even tune 80 with an external tuner.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  11 місяців тому

      You might be able to get 12 & 17 or even 6 with the Random. Also, you can get a little more loss in the 49:1 but I wouldn’t loose sleep over it 👍

    • @donaldsmith3048
      @donaldsmith3048 11 місяців тому

      @@TheSmokinApe With just about 66 feet I have 4 bands without a tuner. And other bands with a tuner. My understanding is that a tuner is needed for EFRW antenna for all bands. I am new so if I am wrong let me know. 73 W4DES

    • @donaldsmith3048
      @donaldsmith3048 11 місяців тому

      I can get 80 and some of the others using my MFJ 940 tuner. I know I lose a lot using the tuner. But may need the tuner using the EFRW.@@TheSmokinApe

  • @robertmeyer4744
    @robertmeyer4744 11 місяців тому

    that is called tri feller wound . also for more power 2 cours needed and larger PTFE wire. it takes heat better than MAG wire. them dog bone insulators as also used in electric fence in farm use. so Tractor supply company has them. some times you get lucky on some bands and need no tuner. but multi band use keep a tuner on hand. 73's

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  11 місяців тому +1

      Hey Robert, agreed on all counts! That’s for checking out the video 👍

    • @robertmeyer4744
      @robertmeyer4744 9 місяців тому

      @@TheSmokinApe My DX commander DX 10 and DX 50 wire on the way. My M & P POTAFLEX 7 on the way. just made to to customs today. I did find that M & P makes a great antenna wire. found it on web page . next order. I have a 9:1 with small core and MAG wire. had the MAG wire arc on FT 8 @ 40 watt. lost all RX . found burn mark on wire after un wrapping. PTFE wire better on voltage. I just wound a 64:1 with 2- T 240-43 cores with #12 PTFE wire. need bigger box. used #16 PTFE on T-240-43 for 49:1 . did not do cross over. better for QRO wrap that way. in a box like you used. all done except antenna wire and counter poise. with ICOM 7300 with 9:1 put tuned in emergency mode. drop power 50% or less. i used 40%. will tune over 3:1 . this is in the CD manual for the ICOM . many do not know this with 7300 . read the big manual I say. if you wind a 9:1 this can be 1:1 with move around how wires jump together and also makes a DC ground on center dipole to reduce static build up . the outher way to wind 1:1 . 73's

  • @victorb22622
    @victorb22622 Рік тому

    As far as. Balun is concerned,its ok, but as you said "fake antenna" for 470 ohm resistance used in place of antenna, the result might be fake for fake antenna.actual part is antenna not balun,balun use just to unbalance antenna.so when you test ,test with antenna otherwise ,i think result may be differ from actual.But,the same time ,if this balun tuned with any unbalance/untuned antenna then it's ok.pls, correct me if I am wrong

  • @RobG-KD9YBZ
    @RobG-KD9YBZ Рік тому

    Would there be any advantage to using a 240 vs 140 Toroid?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      The larger Toroids support a higher transmission power 👍

  • @Ocrepair
    @Ocrepair Рік тому

    Is there a. Book that you can recommend on antenna making ?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +2

      I'd look at the ARRL handbook and ARRL Antenna book, but they are technical and can be overwhelming. Start poking around here: worldradiohistory.com/BOOKSHELF-ARH/Bookshelf_ARRL.htm

  • @503Nick
    @503Nick 2 роки тому

    Wowsers

  • @terrencegilles1462
    @terrencegilles1462 Рік тому

    great video where did you get the box from tsk

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      It's from Amazon, just search for "electronics project box" 👍

  • @Me-ch9qc
    @Me-ch9qc 14 днів тому

    I built this UNUN based on your video, but the ground and hot are shorted. I looked at your diagram and I can see it there as well. Is this supposed to be shorted?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  14 днів тому +1

      Yes, it’s an autotransformer which has a DC short to ground 👍

    • @Me-ch9qc
      @Me-ch9qc 11 днів тому

      @@TheSmokinApe Thank you! It's running great btw.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  10 днів тому

      Awesome!

  • @carmelcornful
    @carmelcornful Рік тому

    Question - How many watts will this handle?

  • @phillyedhrj
    @phillyedhrj Рік тому

    Hi, Ape! What type of solder did you use?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +2

      Hey Ed, this is what I have been using: Rosin Core Solder Wire with 60-40 Tin Lead for Electrical, Electronic, PCB Soldering; By Mandala Crafts; 50g 0.5mm

    • @phillyedhrj
      @phillyedhrj Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe Awesome, thanks!!

  • @SummitBidTech
    @SummitBidTech 6 місяців тому

    How many wraps did you do? Maybe I missed that but isn’t it important?
    9 wraps. Got it. You showed it later in the video.
    So 9:1 requires 9 wraps? Does that always correlate? So 4:1 would require 4 wraps etc?

    • @SummitBidTech
      @SummitBidTech 6 місяців тому

      And a 49:1 requires 49 wraps? That would be beyond just challenging.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  6 місяців тому

      So the number of wraps is important but its a ratio between the primary and secondary windings. In this case 9 primary, and 27 secondary. 27 / 9 = 3. the square of 3 is 9 so that's how you get to 9:1.

    • @SummitBidTech
      @SummitBidTech 6 місяців тому

      @@TheSmokinApesorry, I’m missing something. Rewatching.
      what secondary winding with 27 windings?
      I see you wrapped a single toroid with 3 wires and 9 windings. There’s no second “secondary” core which is what I’d expect when in the the context of a primary and a secondary winding.

  • @d.j.roberts187
    @d.j.roberts187 Рік тому

    Is there a follow up to this?

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому

      I haven’t done one yet, sorry man…

  • @TerryGilsenan
    @TerryGilsenan Рік тому

    Stranded wire would have more aggregate surface area, and we all know about skin-effect, so I would suggest that stranded wire of the same gauge would be better.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      This was stranded wire.

    • @TerryGilsenan
      @TerryGilsenan Рік тому

      @@TheSmokinApe yep, I saw that, hence my comment. I meant stranded wire is better than solid conductor.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  Рік тому +1

      Yep, I agree. Thanks for watching and for the comment Terry!

  • @frequencywatchers
    @frequencywatchers 9 місяців тому +1

    When You Talked ABout amrking The Ends Of The Wires, You Don`t Actually Need To Do That If You Have Multimeter, But Its A Good Practice To Do So.
    Box With That Snorkle You mentioned, Its Easy, Just Drill Two Holes , Or Lets Say, Drill A Hole THRU The Whole Body Of The Box, Then Put A Plastyic Pipe In It And Seal It With Silicone And Just Glue Plastic Bits In The Middle, But Don`t Block The Hole, That Will Help With Cooling The Inside Box Like A Passive Refridgirator.
    When You Pulled Out All The Nutts ANd Bolts I Was Thinking, Will You Not Use A Copper Ones? I Always Try To Use Everything Copper In The Antenna Or Between It BECAUSE IF NOT, The Radio Waves And Lets Just Say ELECTRICITY Will Threat It As A resistor And There Will be Some Problems, Even Copper Electroplating Is SUPER Good Thing To Do For Your Bits And Bops AND Not Only For RF, Its Good For Rust prevention To, I Have All My Wires SOlid Copper Ones, I Mean, The Big Ones Who Are In The Sky Attached Tto House Or From House To Down To Earth, All Copper And All The Connections Are Solid Copper As Well, One Thing Is Not Solid Copper, But Copper plated. :)
    I Will Make A Video Someday On How I Copperplate Antenna Things For it :)
    All My Things , Elements Are From Onne Old KGB Agent Who Passed Away And My Best Friend Inherited The Property And I Got All The Old USSR Devices, Wires And All Electronics, EVEN Radios That He Was Listening Into Hotel Rooms As A KGB Aggent, A Lot of folks who saw the devices said i need to give them to the Rīgas Ocupation Museum And Im Thinking of Doing That

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  9 місяців тому +1

      Those old radios sound interesting. Thanks for all the info and insight FW 👍

  • @victorb22622
    @victorb22622 Рік тому

    Oh, it need tuner too!?

  • @victorb22622
    @victorb22622 Рік тому

    But i knew the technique how to make balun ,but same time i expect correct balun ,i mean usefull

  • @47dirtyden
    @47dirtyden Місяць тому

    So many views on balun ratios 4:1 45:1 9:1 on & on & on
    Basically make something put it together if it works for you good
    I made up ef wire antenna years ago 4:1 34feet long
    No counterpoise regularly got usa canada etc from NE Scotland on 10 watts 😀

  • @bevo65
    @bevo65 Рік тому

    10:41 “Deez nuts.” 😅

  • @peterv3122
    @peterv3122 2 місяці тому

    2.4 inches is the outer diameter :)

  • @Aswaguespack
    @Aswaguespack 10 місяців тому

    If something has a “propensity” to break, rest assured I will find a way to break it on the very LAST hole I will drill. Usually I buy 2 boxes because I am almost always certain to frack one up. 😂. Hahaha

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  10 місяців тому

      Lol, I do the same because I do the same!

  • @carypeaden4147
    @carypeaden4147 3 місяці тому

    I am surprised you say that you use a 1:1 Balun as your choke, not a 1:1 Unun. From instructions on the LDG site they recommend use of their 1:1 Unun as a choke with their 9:1 Unun on a EFRW. (I am a new Ham and using the already assembled LDG Ununs and Baluns for my experimenting, but I assume the theory of how things work is independent of the manufacturer of the transformer.) I'll attach a link to their doc below. Just look at the 3 page LDG doc. The picture on the first page shows what they recommend.

    • @carypeaden4147
      @carypeaden4147 3 місяці тому

      irp.cdn-website.com/4d6cc687/files/uploaded/LDG-Balun-Unun-Manual.pdf

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  3 місяці тому +1

      Thanks for the link. Different people refer to "chokes" differently. In a nutshell my experience is to use a Guanella choke (sometimes called a Balun) to attenuate CMC at an antenna feedpoint. I'm pretty sure the LDG 1:1 UnUn is a Ruthoff 1:1 Voltage Balun (sometimes called an UnUn). As you can imagine it's a pretty hotly contested issue with hams. What's important is that you are using a choking. device.

    • @carypeaden4147
      @carypeaden4147 3 місяці тому

      @@TheSmokinApe I really appreciate you taking the time to reply. I learn a lot from watching your videos. Thanks.

    • @TheSmokinApe
      @TheSmokinApe  3 місяці тому

      @@carypeaden4147 glad to hear that they are helpful 👍

  • @davidmeale9572
    @davidmeale9572 4 дні тому +1

    Why do we need to constantly keep having to " go ahead and " ???

  • @BLACKHEAT1028
    @BLACKHEAT1028 Рік тому +1

    My wife hates that I EYEBALL a lot of things, close enough for government work

  • @wouterbrinkman7817
    @wouterbrinkman7817 4 місяці тому

    good explanation 73 pd0osg

  • @Mrmeoggy
    @Mrmeoggy 2 місяці тому

    "A box of deez nuts"

  • @showmytime9177
    @showmytime9177 5 місяців тому

    is that a Jeep ?