@@animationspace8550 it's a very, very long torpedo tube. It's not practical especially for "LA to SF" since it needs a very straight path to not give its passengers over 3Gs of force
2:28 No, the Hyperloop's biggest problem is constructing a 600km long, 0.001 bar, 2m diameter vacuum pipeline. Making tube travel comfortable is the least of their worries.
is nobody a skeptic any more? this doesn't work and it won't work, and i'm even saying this without watching thunderfoot video. The passenger travel chamber won't float just because it's in the low pressure, then space shuttles wouldn't need extra boost once they reach upper atmosphere, also i lost it at 2:27 when she said that biggest problem is the comfort, seriously, THAT'S the biggest problem? Also the "turning" in Y turns wouldn't be possible at 700mph, there is no way to redirect that force with such precision for redirect travel chamber into a path you want that barely fits into a tube: No idea what will you use at fuel for acceleration, but fossil fuels are out of the question, solar can't produce that much power. It's a nice idea but a failure in the end
the hyperloop tubes are suspended magnetically. google "maglev trains". its the same process here, and people 2000x smarter than you are working on this so please sit down
1) Anyone that wanted to fuck with a hyperloop track could easily do so on a normal train too, just cut away one inch of track and bam you derail a team. 2) You obviously have never taken an actual physics class outside of UA-cam and keyboard warrioring. "there would have to be a force strong enough to stop the travel chamber before the outside pressure hits it with phenomenal force, i'm not a physicist but logic dictates that energy taken from the tube has to return to the tube ASAP." What actually does that even mean lol? And the whole beauty of the HyperLoop design is that it operates in not a vacuum but at low pressures and as such breaches would only cause temporary problems as the trains would be slowed down by slightly higher levels of air resistance. Once the breach would be repaired the system would be back to functioning at 100%.
The consequences of a single rifle bullet penetrating the tube could be the catastrophic loss of all vehicles and their passengers. The susceptibility of the entire system to a single point failure is just one reason Hyperloop is impractical.
John T so intelligent people have to be fluent in English? are you telling me that the persons grammar is a sign of intelligence? Do you have any idea how many scientologists, creationists, mormons, politicians, rapers and other human oozes, speak fluent but are actually idiots? Take you for example, you speak fluent, but you can't recognize smart people, but during entire history, smart people were always considered dumb by the dumb :)
To be honest, the faster we get, the further we travel, so time spent always stays relative, for instance, in the future, travel will be so fast, that people may travel intercontinental for work on a daily basis, and they would gripe about the time taken to get there e.g. an hour
The possibilities of what this could accomplish are mind boggling. My mind is racing with thoughts of medical patients being transported hundreds of miles for specialized treatment, reduced times for fresh food(produce) getting to market, enabling fast travel that's not affected by traffic jams or weather delays etc.. Just amazing
So many unanswered questions. 1. How do they expect to handle twists and turns? 2. How do they expect to keep hundreds of miles of tubes in a low pressure state while still being energy efficient? 3. How do they expect to keep stations under low pressure when there are forks in the track and doors constantly opening and closing?
Solar/battery stations could be used at intervals such as- every five kilometers or more... That would keep the pressure low enough to function perfectly. Even a reduction from 15psi at sea level to a bit higher than ten could easily be done with solar/battery
+Squidzrule Gaming The dreams of yesterday are the hopes of today, and the reality of tomorrow. All the politics and bullshit we put up with in our daily lives is just meaningless fluff. Good to see people getting things done for a change :)
+Squidzrule Gaming Yes but not in a hyperloop, the hyperloop is de-pressurized so that means there is barley any air, so have a fun time trying to breathe! Haha.
+101m4n Except the first country to get the dreams put into reality will be coincidentally the richest and most powerful country on the geopolitical stage and Africa might have a hyperloop by 2100 if they're lucky. So yeah, politics and wealth and all that bullshit is still very important until people start making this shit for free and having people work to create it simply for the good of humanity. Not going to happen in this lifetime.
At time 4:00 Reporter: "How much money have you guys raised here?" Interviewee: "0." Reporter: "How are you going to get this off the ground?" Interviewee: "Innovation is done in teams. It's not done by a single person." I really hope that was an editing mistake and not the real exchange.
They've already debated building it for a century. The idea of low-pressure tunnels to reduce drag has been around for a century and a half. Goddard essentially pioneered the idea of the modern hyperloop that Musk is parading as his own. The problem is that there is a pretty damn good reason nothing has been ever made. It's practically impossible to create a near-vacuum that is hundreds of miles long and even a minor interference with the system causes catastrophic consequences (Terrorism or natural disasters), not to even mention the problems of heat expansion and economic viability. Even then it's only twice as fast as the proposed high-speed train system that has none of the problems above. The whole project is a bust from the start.
What about a system whereby only the sections traveled are opened and close behind the train, allowing for safe depressurization in the case of an emergency?
+Vivek Vaidya Exactly, we need many more people just like Elon Musk. Too bad we can't rid the planet, of the idiots who don't have the intelligence to appreciate what he is doing.
+Vivek Vaidya actually no. Elon is quite naive about many key things. He thinks rocketry has a future and that we have been told the truth about UFOs. He is wrong. The future will bring revolution far beyond what Elon has imagined. But Elon is a doer so in his persistence he might incidentally trigger real change. Sooner or later his rocketry will be confronted with the reality of the UFO cover up and it will be interesting to see what happens next. Hyperloop will probably never be relevant.
+Dan Frederiksen Maybe because he is capable of critical thinking and isn't a delusional UFO conspiracy theorist. Even if it turns out there is a UFO cover up, you are still a moron for believing it without any real evidence.
The probability of error for this thing would have to be infinitesimally small, it would need to be the most secure transportation system in the world in terms of probable microsystem failure. It would need multiple fail safes in the form of multiple systems confined into a single system, then it would need to be safeguarded against free radical hazards such as heat and cold expansion and contraction, natural deterioration and any idiot roaming around with a rifle with armor piercing ammunition. It would have to be the safest transportation system ever conceived of, leading to the inevitability of it also being the least safe transportation system ever conceived of. You can only have ideal transportation in an ideal world... this wouldn't work ideally in this world, the budget is doomed to inflate exponentially I suspect. I'm not an engineer, just an electrical engineering student btw, so before anyone screams that idk what I'm talking about, Ill be the first to say that this is only my opinions, I'm not an expert.
Planes require constant maintenance, but they also have much greater versatility than a hyperloop allowing their tickets to pay for that maintenance. Maintaining a system as large as a hyperloop would be vastly more expensive than servicing a plane, which would drive up the costs of tickets... Now why would someone want to pay more for a ticket to ride the hyperloop from town to town than they would for a plane ticket which could take them anywhere in the world? Also you would need a fighter jet, surface to air missle ect to take down a single plane, which are not easy to access... You would only need an AK47 to destroy the entire system potentially of the loop...Adam Moto Vlog
+Blake Marshall so whats your point with the AK47 here? 1 .22lr round can destroy an entire A380 plane if shot correctly, i dont see how saying "You would only need an AK47 to destroy the entire system potentially of the loop" applies here...
Everything is possible, never stop believing. And even if this ends up as failure some of the steps of building this idea might spark a new innovation on it's own. This is the whole point of free, open source science. Everything is possible and all branches can evolve into something wonderful. And lastly just to point out, the some the very best of inventions have been invented due to a accident.
You realize they meant the entire system and not the tube travel itself, right? Get in, get out, station barking systems.. is very different from a train station that you just put plataforms and ppl wait there.
for everyone thinking this will work (even though in my eyes the current version would fail), the hyperloop, even without problems in the vehicle itself, would cost so much (you have no idea) to build and maintain the tube carrying the vehicals
They already started building one between Dubai and Abhu Dhabi. It's all paid for and everything it costs over 50 billion dollars. If it works the world will know about it and other countries will also get them built in their own countries.
Welcome back to the 1800s The pneumatic tube mail was a postal system operating in New York City from 1897 to 1953 this technology is over 133 years old but they make it sound all trendy and new
So you accelerate at 700mph, and arrive from LA to SFO in less than 30 mins. At what time do you start slowing down the machine. Because the faster you go, the more distance you need to slow down until you come to a full stop. So at what distance and time will it start slowing down.
The speed they're talking about most probably will be use in long distance. For shorter distance, the speed will be reduced. Acceleration and deceleration are easier to manage.
These people cant manage the highway between vegas and la. much less a high speed train. This is a scam.. that has made 100 million. Vacuum tunnel under the tahatchapis.. someone deserves jailtime.
What do you do in a vacuum when an emergency hits, like a fire or a loss of propulsion? Like being trapped in an elevator with limited oxygen available and help being far away and unprepared to rescue you in a timely fashion.
A fire can't exist, however heat can on the inner surface of that tube. If there's a leak, now that heat becomes fire as things are set ablaze... it's a concept that firefighters are more than familiar with. And with the sudden expansion of that gas if it happens behind a car? you have a shotgun effect now and that isn't good... and if that leak happens in front? That car is going to get stopped, hard and fast, and with no warning.
what does BART do when it has an emergency in tunnels underneath the ocean of the SF bay? a transit-tunnel system built in the 1970's? ooh, but then, that's SF. perhaps you are new to this topic and concept in general.
Elon Musk is working on it, he's started Tesla which has been extremely successful and SpaceX which is one of the most successful private space agencies.
Well this a really definitive statement you make. I personaly believe it is possible if it is going to be managed from the right people. Today it is possible you eliminate risk without even have to built something. Its hard to explain here but ist really doable. Thx for sharing your thoughts!
what engineers?? the UCLA post grad students? I'm a post grad architecture student and from what I can see the studio shown in the video are just works done by architecture students. this project would still be impossible to do even if it has the full funding from the Pentagon and NASA combined
If you actually watch the video it makes sense. One of the biggest arguments that he makes is the dangers created by the massive pressure difference. Also, he isn't just a UA-cam personality, he is a scientist.
+John Walker Moosbrugger The "engineers" are scammers. They've got a vested interest in making people believe they're trying to construct an actual hyperloop. Those guys could tell you straight-up bullshit if they think it will draw more investors. Thunderf00t is scientifically competent and has no bias one way or the other. I would trust him over the Hyperloop One team members any day of the week. I wouldn't listen to those engineers and neither should you. Get an outside opinion that's not a news network.
I love how my 1979 Usborne Book of the Future essentially had this concept outlined. A pressurized bullet shaped passenger pod in a friction-less vacuum tube and propelled by mag-lev... Although the concept drawing was a much fatter pod.
To all the Elon haters, none of this would exist today if not for Elon bringing it to publics attention. Whether he invented it or not is besides the point, we've talked about yhis kind of transport for years heck just give Walt Disney credit for doing it first with the monorail and Tomorrowland but give Elon Credit for making it a reality today. Now you can all go back to your bedrooms accomplishing nothing and hating some more on Elon Musk
+Giggidygiggidy12 The idea actually did exist before Elon Musk. People just ignored it as crazy or impractical though until someone like him brought it back to the public eye from a person they generally respected.
It blows my mind, but yes many people love to "hate on" Elon as the expression goes, meaning they think he has accomplished nothing and think Tesla and Space X is some sort of fad. Well they will wake up to reality at some point and realize Elon is the real deal and so are his companies. If the Model 3 release didn't already take care of that issue.
He was out of his depth when he recommended the Hyperloop. It's a shitty idea, it would never work, and it will generally be remembered in the professional community as a huge embarrassment for Musk. Just because he brought the idea into the public eye doesn't mean it isn't a shitty one.
uh back it up there dweeb fuck this technology IS NOTHING NEW! you just see your fuckboy elon polished and ready with tesla to push it forward.He is simply a globalist shill enlaving countries with technology most cannot afford and never will sure we can have better transportation but at the end of the day its a outsourced and political..He is not your friend and never will be.Keep idolizing him GOODBYE.
+Kevin Ping Service announcement: "Elon wishes to advise that the Hyperloop is out of service for 36 months while we attempt to drain the air pressure out of 10.3 million cubic metres of tube space."
Instead of moving the pods around and opening them up at each end, the pods should have docking collars at each end of the carriage. That way, the pod can simply dock with a collar at the end of the run without having to pass through an airlock or be moved around. Also, two pods can dock together to rescue a stranded pod without having to pressurize the whole system to rescue the trapped passengers.
100+ years from now when this is the standard people are going to look back on videos like this and have a wonderful insight into how new technologies like this come into being. It's like if we were able to look back at the people behind the creation of the first cars or first trains and see first hand all of the thought and world changing innovation that came with it.
Am I the only one who might feel anxious by little space? Like, you're forced to be in a tube for the whole trip, like from LA to SF. I really hope they at least have windows or something to comfort me and make me feel at ease.
Dude, seriously, no money fund ? What r you doing there? No american appreciate your talent why not go to China then? We have big team and millions fund on this area. And also , first test of our train are finished in 2013 which was already reach 20km per min. I can't believe this, our company should acquired this team immediately.
***** We r doing it, and first part is finished already. You just don't know because you can't read Chinese. We Chinese r not keen on show off, you will see it after we totally finish it.
***** yeah， if we finish it , you can be a witness that we have copy nobody. Because our first test, the test engaged in the air was finished in 2013, it reached 25m/s.
***** you know, this hyperlood project seperate into 2 steps. First test is to test the train can be exerted well in normal context. Second step is to evacuate the air in the tube , to reach a vacuum context and make the train reaching 50m/s We already finish the first step in 2013, this new was verified by offical media. But unfortunately, there is no vedio, we don't do any film before it fully finish. Believe or not is upon on you, just don't say we r copying somebody in the future. By the way, I tell you another truth. Our scientist almost find "dark matter" in the universe, we already sent a spacial space telescope to space this year. Our scientist r very ambitious to find this materior before US and Europe. “ only one last step left" they said.
it smells like a scaled up version of "too good to be true" kickstarter scams to me. like solar roadways and the self filling water bottle, to quote famous examples. even the concorde failed in the end.
YEAH!!! Remember them iron horses going across the country. Pfft. Ridiculous! How about them there flying machines. There was a nutty idea for ya'. And let's not forget about the notion of sailing away from land and ~not~ falling off the edge. I suppose these people are too stupid to realize that the sun revolves around the earth even.
Meh, even if reality and physics weren't against the idea, you're going to lose 2 hours at each end to TSA and having to be their early to check in, just like flying
The Hyperloop is one of the most ridiculous transport ideas currently being developed. I think Musky is a great guy but he'll look back on this lunacy as a moment of madness.
+Mike Kleinsteuber Many people was a lunatic with a brilliant idea, but in your time was identified how a crazy person. And thanks to these people today you know that the earth is round and that the earth revolves around the sun, I think that´s this is a great development but it needs time to improve
He made reusable rockets possible, he landed his falcon rockets in a landing pod floating on water. And you don't belive he can make hyperloop possible?
I agree its a ridiculous idea. The New Chinese Bullet Trains travel at 400 mph on existing bullet rail technology. To uproot all those rails and put "tubes" all across the place does not seem feasible and anyway America is not going to see that time..
I believe the engineers are too smart for this. You don't initially accelerate 700 mph in the first second, but you constantly accelerate to 700 mph. I think we would feel around 0.8-1.2 G-force.
So, what would happen if the airtight seal on the wing doors for a capsule broke? Isn't that a serious risk involved with this transportation? Would a scene like Total Recall, with people with exploding eyes take place?
***** So, you mean that I have to decompress miles and miles at once? All while other capsules are traveling at fart speed? Okay, might be possible, but that would cause ripple effects in the whole system, then you would have for hours a number of stranded passengers in the middle of nowhere.
The idea is nice, but, today we live in the age of the Internet. Why travel for business in the first place? We can do just about anything over the Internet and in the future it will only get better. The only travel that the we should do is for pleasure, and that, doesn't require any high speed at all.
+Jackal It depends on how much it cost and the purpose. Take for example Japan, I can travel on the bullet train 100 miles for $100 per person, or, I can spend half the price and use the highway, it takes twice as long but on a Sunday drive is just lovely and the food/scenery is great, plus I don't have to carry my own luggage.
+Peppe Ddu We can't only travel for pleasure. Many laws and other legalities, require that an actual person be present when certain things have to be done. Although there is much office work that can be done over the Internet; there is equally much that has to be done 'in person'. Such as when someone needs to sign legal business documents, financial papers, or in other instances, such as overseeing an office. Many workers, who have not been replaced by automation yet, need to be there in person, in order to do their jobs. I could make a very long list of instances where people need to travel to work in person, but I think you get the gist of it. Only traveling for pleasure is a very naive idea.
That's around 1126 KMPH.The Pressure difference has to be insanely tremendous. A projectile aircraft would be quicker than this but very difficult to accomplish.
4:14 that raises a question though. Do you really need to go to an opera a few hundred miles away? What makes old school opera so special that you have to travel there? Instead, what about investing more in virtualization technology (Oculus Rift and HTC Vive etc) so you can BE THERE without moving your whole body there? There are some things you just want to do, like go mountain climbing. But there's a great deal of things you don't have to do with your body at the actual location. The very same thing bothers me about desk jobs etc. Why do we need to be at an office these days when we can do the same kind of work from anywhere in the world? Let's move away from moving our flesh around and instead moving our mind around... virtually!
Maybe if they can get it developed by the same time as Hyperloop will be past by governments and population on the path of those routes and the stations.
This is like talking about hydrogen cars without talking about the many potentially insurmountable problems with hydrogen storage (and the problem conceptually with using hydrogen as a fuel). I would love a hyperloop to exist, but I heard that this will be done in a (near-)total vacuum, which puts passengers at serious risk of death if basically anything goes wrong. Also there's the extreme cost of maintaining a vacuum. But this video doesn't mention a vacuum. At all. That's all anyone should care about because that will make or break this idea.
Exactly. I think that a lot of middle-class and lower people think these trips will be for them. This would likely just be for the rich, but since so much of the US's money is in a small fraction of the population, there might not even be enough customers. I feel sorry for investors; I really can't see this happening.
***** Yeah, if constructed right it should be quite risk less and we could probably go with a weak vacuum at slower speeds to begin with atleast. But don't forget the possible terrorism factors and the potential of miss-use of the hyperloop, like weapon distribution or launching. Inventing a hybrid version of a hyperloop using for example electro magnetism and or jet fuel or something like that might be an idea to consider.
The whole point of a hyperloop is to have resistance-free travel. That requires a vacuum. Otherwise it's a mag-lev train. Mag-lev trains can go fast, but they could not achieve the speeds possible in a vacuum.
This was posted September last year and today I read that this is officially happening in The UAE. By 2021 the Hyperloop will be the 15min connection btw Dubai and Abu Dhabi (as of today it is a 90min ride)...
2:25 The Hyperloops biggest problem is making tube travel comfortable. Everything said here burns my toast. I have a strong feeling that H-loop is to far out of reach. Lots of other more pressing problems in the world that could use our focus and efforts. I mean, Really!
What? There weren't any jobs in the first place! I'm sure there's going to be loads of jobs produced actually constructing this monster. Invalid argument.
+whoopsiedaisy Don't be too sure. The human factor is needed to built this "monster" and then? You're right. Your argument is invalid. Keep on dreaming.
+Kunigdąbsław Mgdolwicz lol no. No job's will be lost because no jobs will be taken away OR created when it comes to actually driving the vehicles. There will still be jobs created as staff, security, engineering and tech support and ticket management. Hyperloop is also going to profit an infinitely more amount of times than transportation by train, so i don't see what you're on about with your "not going to happen". IT IS happening right now.
+Kunigdąbsław Mgdolwicz It's not about that. As things are automated, people find other things to do, which improves our world. Think back to the 1850s, when the steam engine replaced a lot of human work. First then could we direct our focus away from food production and towards greater things. Every single industry automated, opens up a completely new market. Money will still flow among people. Machines won't suck up money. There will probably still be a need for cashiers for tickets, security, janitors, engineers and so on. I believe that this is a job creator, and not the other way around, as what we replace is the car, which we operate ourselves. It's very hard to explain, but automisation will never be a bad thing in terms of overall human well-beingness. Never.
The propeller isn't the driving force. It's driven by magnets, levitated by magnets. They want to have as little friction as possible, so they create a low pressure environment. However, low pressure at high speeds still cause pressure at the front, so to take that pressure away, they thought of a propeller.
mPky1 turbines and propellers are basically the same thing they need air to work u can spin them at 25k rpm in space for an hour and not move an inch, its the same in the tube it will do nothing.
i think one of the concepts was maglev - electromagnetic poles toggling to propel the "train" forward in a near-vacuum environment = max speed with almost no resistance (other than its own weight). yes, the fan is a stupid idea.
It is repetition of the Swiss Metro project that was proposed by some EPFL (Lausanne) professors back in 1998 to link Geneva and Zurich. It would be nice to have that between Montreal and New York.
+SolarizeYourLife Crash into what? It's a tube. Unlikely. Plus we already have trains that go fast enough for it to be unlikely to survive if it hits something at full speed.
Thunderf00t laughens me. Train traveling at 150mph kills almost if not all on board if there would be a large enough branch on the rails. Sabotage would cause tremendous body counts. So I don't see how this is any different. It's all matter of design. Airplanes are extremely dangerous, hell they hang on top of aluminum at even 10 mile heights. Safety is matter of design. Practicalities? You wouldn't believe what type of inventions and breakthroughs in material area are happening(covers heat expansion and strength). Electricity? Not a problem, the whole train network in Finland runs on electricity and it seems to run just fine. Everything is possible, never stop believing. And even if this ends up as failure some of the steps of building this idea might spark a new innovation on it's own. This is the whole point of free, open source science. Everything is possible and all branches can evolve into something wonderful. And lastly just to point out, the some the very best of inventions have been invented due to a accident.
Wrong wrong and wrong. Ever heard of G-Force? That kind of acceleration would crush you against your seat. Ever been in an aeroplane? The acceleration is far more gradual and soft.
Its not impossible its that these people cannot do it practically. The whole point is mute. This type of travel will require the security of an airplane. The issue with this is that it becomes impractical over long distances. Too much maintenance and too much construction cost. Too many sources of failure.
When someone puts a hole in the track, its going to be interesting to see how people survive the explosive force of air rushing in there and destroying every pod along the track...
one crack in the pipe and you shoot out the other side at 1200 mph. and its almost impossible to build pipes that can sustain an almost perfect vacuum. so we got about another 200 years to go.
"Completely managed by the computer system, there's no human factor that can actually create those issues." *Next day, reads dictionary, discovers the term 'Hacker'* "DAMN IT!"
WRONG VIDEOS Unfortunately the tube will not have windows, you will be in a metal box with no windows going through another tube with no windows. I don't think it will be very enjoyable.
+rideforever Just look around when using the metro. 95% just look in their smartphone. Give them free WLAN in the capsule and the only window they care about is their browser.
I think carriage with horse was more enjoyable than our current cars , yet we all drive cars. Because you do not want to spent half of your life travelling from point A to point B. I think that is the whole point. You can still ride a horse if you want to enjoy.
"Aren't you afraid of crashing?"
If I crash in that, I won't have time to worry about anything.
To be honest, if you think about it it would be a lot safer than both cars and planes. The traffic is linear and accidents would be very minimum.
@@animationspace8550 Bro you don't know what you're talking about
@John Harrison know what you're talking about
@@animationspace8550 it's a very, very long torpedo tube. It's not practical especially for "LA to SF" since it needs a very straight path to not give its passengers over 3Gs of force
2:28 No, the Hyperloop's biggest problem is constructing a 600km long, 0.001 bar, 2m diameter vacuum pipeline. Making tube travel comfortable is the least of their worries.
But the real question is: Will these tubes have cup holders?
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no true question is why Elon musk hasn't decide to be either batman or ironman
what if the cup falls? 3 seconds in a free fall.. then, when the cup touch the ground, hyperloop will be 1km far . lol
** physicists will hate **
inertia will take care of cup, there are bigger things to worry.
haha. Honestly, I think ingestion of liquids is not as hard as figuring out how the excretion of liquids is going to work. Catheters maybe??
Hotels will hate this.
+Shaun Graham Sure.
+Shaun Graham airway companies too
Lol screw them.
+Shaun Graham
Not as much as airliners.
+Monkfish looking for Waifu Airliners need to die any ways. They are environmental risks, safety risks, and inefficient.
is nobody a skeptic any more? this doesn't work and it won't work, and i'm even saying this without watching thunderfoot video. The passenger travel chamber won't float just because it's in the low pressure, then space shuttles wouldn't need extra boost once they reach upper atmosphere, also i lost it at 2:27 when she said that biggest problem is the comfort, seriously, THAT'S the biggest problem? Also the "turning" in Y turns wouldn't be possible at 700mph, there is no way to redirect that force with such precision for redirect travel chamber into a path you want that barely fits into a tube: No idea what will you use at fuel for acceleration, but fossil fuels are out of the question, solar can't produce that much power. It's a nice idea but a failure in the end
the hyperloop tubes are suspended magnetically. google "maglev trains". its the same process here, and people 2000x smarter than you are working on this so please sit down
sry, ment to say one of the more intelligent people, smart is knowledge, i only have problem solving skill
1) Anyone that wanted to fuck with a hyperloop track could easily do so on a normal train too, just cut away one inch of track and bam you derail a team.
2) You obviously have never taken an actual physics class outside of UA-cam and keyboard warrioring. "there would have to be a force strong enough to stop the travel chamber before the outside pressure hits it with phenomenal force, i'm not a physicist but logic dictates that energy taken from the tube has to return to the tube ASAP." What actually does that even mean lol? And the whole beauty of the HyperLoop design is that it operates in not a vacuum but at low pressures and as such breaches would only cause temporary problems as the trains would be slowed down by slightly higher levels of air resistance. Once the breach would be repaired the system would be back to functioning at 100%.
The consequences of a single rifle bullet penetrating the tube could be the catastrophic loss of all vehicles and their passengers. The susceptibility of the entire system to a single point failure is just one reason Hyperloop is impractical.
John T so intelligent people have to be fluent in English? are you telling me that the persons grammar is a sign of intelligence? Do you have any idea how many scientologists, creationists, mormons, politicians, rapers and other human oozes, speak fluent but are actually idiots? Take you for example, you speak fluent, but you can't recognize smart people, but during entire history, smart people were always considered dumb by the dumb :)
interviewer lowkey fire
To be honest, the faster we get, the further we travel, so time spent always stays relative, for instance, in the future, travel will be so fast, that people may travel intercontinental for work on a daily basis, and they would gripe about the time taken to get there e.g. an hour
yes and no no no
well, the hyper-loop systems are theoretically capable of doing 700MPH, maybe more, so, anywhere within 1400 miles would be commutable
reminds me of the polar express when the kids go into Santa's elves workshop and see they take this fast train just like this one
+Barry Soetoro of course it does haven't you heard a Gods and Monsters?
The possibilities of what this could accomplish are mind boggling. My mind is racing with thoughts of medical patients being transported hundreds of miles for specialized treatment, reduced times for fresh food(produce) getting to market, enabling fast travel that's not affected by traffic jams or weather delays etc.. Just amazing
I'm working on teleportation ... this system will be defunct within a year
I bet you're working on teleportation.
ahahha i believe in you bro
How much wud a ticket to "Bikiniland" then cost bro?
Quantum Entanglement
+Oggy Oggy jolyuyj,nnm nm. m nnm. '
>gets out megaphone
*JUST BUILD A TRAIN*
Reminds me of the tube in Polar Express
DAT BOI oh shit, wuddup.
or the monorail from the simpsons
When the hyperloop crashes, everyone in it would turn into jelly.
and the city was hit today by a 30 feet long metal bullet hahaha
...and the terrorists would love to f*ck with it. lol
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And a plane?
rick nineg well a plane crash is not 700 mph its around 346 mph
i like how the old man is still confident that he will live for another 10month
So many unanswered questions.
1. How do they expect to handle twists and turns?
2. How do they expect to keep hundreds of miles of tubes in a low pressure state while still being energy efficient?
3. How do they expect to keep stations under low pressure when there are forks in the track and doors constantly opening and closing?
Solar/battery stations could be used at intervals such as- every five kilometers or more... That would keep the pressure low enough to function perfectly. Even a reduction from 15psi at sea level to a bit higher than ten could easily be done with solar/battery
So Futurama may be a reality!? :O
+Squidzrule Gaming Possibly
Can't wait for the suicide booths.
+Squidzrule Gaming The dreams of yesterday are the hopes of today, and the reality of tomorrow.
All the politics and bullshit we put up with in our daily lives is just meaningless fluff.
Good to see people getting things done for a change :)
+Squidzrule Gaming Yes but not in a hyperloop, the hyperloop is de-pressurized so that means there is barley any air, so have a fun time trying to breathe! Haha.
+101m4n Except the first country to get the dreams put into reality will be coincidentally the richest and most powerful country on the geopolitical stage and Africa might have a hyperloop by 2100 if they're lucky. So yeah, politics and wealth and all that bullshit is still very important until people start making this shit for free and having people work to create it simply for the good of humanity. Not going to happen in this lifetime.
At time 4:00
Reporter: "How much money have you guys raised here?"
Interviewee: "0."
Reporter: "How are you going to get this off the ground?"
Interviewee: "Innovation is done in teams. It's not done by a single person."
I really hope that was an editing mistake and not the real exchange.
It's cool, but the problem is , it would take a decade to build it and a couple century to debate whether if they should build it
Very true, by the time we finally have the tech to fully developed, flying car would probably existed.
***** i mean practical one, not those gimmick.
I bet there are many cities/countries willing to experiment this. Places where lawyers are not ruling yet but people.
They've already debated building it for a century. The idea of low-pressure tunnels to reduce drag has been around for a century and a half. Goddard essentially pioneered the idea of the modern hyperloop that Musk is parading as his own.
The problem is that there is a pretty damn good reason nothing has been ever made. It's practically impossible to create a near-vacuum that is hundreds of miles long and even a minor interference with the system causes catastrophic consequences (Terrorism or natural disasters), not to even mention the problems of heat expansion and economic viability.
Even then it's only twice as fast as the proposed high-speed train system that has none of the problems above. The whole project is a bust from the start.
What about a system whereby only the sections traveled are opened and close behind the train, allowing for safe depressurization in the case of an emergency?
I can not resist.... is this perhaps a literal pipe dream?
Monorail, can we hear that again? Monorail!
Holy crap, it's like deja vu. If someone makes a song about this thing... that's it. I'm done.
DrParanoidAndroid monorails don't go 700mph
Is there a chance the track could bend?
Too slow Joe.
okay lets face it Elon Musk is what our planet needs.
+Vivek Vaidya
Exactly, we need many more people just like Elon Musk. Too bad we can't rid the planet, of the idiots who don't have the intelligence to appreciate what he is doing.
+Vivek Vaidya actually no. Elon is quite naive about many key things.
He thinks rocketry has a future and that we have been told the truth about UFOs.
He is wrong.
The future will bring revolution far beyond what Elon has imagined.
But Elon is a doer so in his persistence he might incidentally trigger real change.
Sooner or later his rocketry will be confronted with the reality of the UFO cover up and it will be interesting to see what happens next.
Hyperloop will probably never be relevant.
Dan Frederiksen, you forgot your tinfoil hat.
+Dan Frederiksen Maybe because he is capable of critical thinking and isn't a delusional UFO conspiracy theorist. Even if it turns out there is a UFO cover up, you are still a moron for believing it without any real evidence.
+Patternicity you mean evidence like us astronauts coming forward and saying it is?
This is a bad thing when your mother in law gets an itch to visit you. She doesn't have a 16 hour drive stopping her anymore.
+Jackson Lux Works both ways, isn't it ? She won't have a 16 hour drive stopping her from leaving the same day either !
+Jackson Lux But by the time this happens,who would be the mother in law?
Woah.
The probability of error for this thing would have to be infinitesimally small, it would need to be the most secure transportation system in the world in terms of probable microsystem failure. It would need multiple fail safes in the form of multiple systems confined into a single system, then it would need to be safeguarded against free radical hazards such as heat and cold expansion and contraction, natural deterioration and any idiot roaming around with a rifle with armor piercing ammunition. It would have to be the safest transportation system ever conceived of, leading to the inevitability of it also being the least safe transportation system ever conceived of. You can only have ideal transportation in an ideal world... this wouldn't work ideally in this world, the budget is doomed to inflate exponentially I suspect. I'm not an engineer, just an electrical engineering student btw, so before anyone screams that idk what I'm talking about, Ill be the first to say that this is only my opinions, I'm not an expert.
Not really tho.
Just like planes... But they fly, everyday, thousands of flights...
Planes require constant maintenance, but they also have much greater versatility than a hyperloop allowing their tickets to pay for that maintenance. Maintaining a system as large as a hyperloop would be vastly more expensive than servicing a plane, which would drive up the costs of tickets... Now why would someone want to pay more for a ticket to ride the hyperloop from town to town than they would for a plane ticket which could take them anywhere in the world? Also you would need a fighter jet, surface to air missle ect to take down a single plane, which are not easy to access... You would only need an AK47 to destroy the entire system potentially of the loop...Adam Moto Vlog
+Blake Marshall so whats your point with the AK47 here? 1 .22lr round can destroy an entire A380 plane if shot correctly, i dont see how saying "You would only need an AK47 to destroy the entire system potentially of the loop" applies here...
an airplane at 30,000ft is a lot harder to hit than a stationary tube...a plane with a breach wouldn't take off...
Mumbai will have the world's first Hyperloop system. Waiting to experience it. Sir Branson.. get, set, go !!!
I don't want to be stuck in a tube flying along inside another tube. I want to be able to look out a window and see something.
"the hyper loops biggest challenge...Making tube travel comfortable..." (－‸ლ)
these design engineers are making bank from this bullcrap
lol agreed. they can take as much time as they want because its "difficult"
Everything is possible, never stop believing. And even if this ends up as failure some of the steps of building this idea might spark a new innovation on it's own. This is the whole point of free, open source science. Everything is possible and all branches can evolve into something wonderful. And lastly just to point out, the some the very best of inventions have been invented due to a accident.
You realize they meant the entire system and not the tube travel itself, right? Get in, get out, station barking systems.. is very different from a train station that you just put plataforms and ppl wait there.
let rat OMG when I read this comment at that same time that woman told this!
for everyone thinking this will work (even though in my eyes the current version would fail), the hyperloop, even without problems in the vehicle itself, would cost so much (you have no idea) to build and maintain the tube carrying the vehicals
And imagine being in a capsule going at 700mph how is it going to stop(without killing you of course)?
Stuffy Pancake itll be broken before it reaches the station anyway
They already started building one between Dubai and Abhu Dhabi. It's all paid for and everything it costs over 50 billion dollars. If it works the world will know about it and other countries will also get them built in their own countries.
Knight Shadow ok even more money wasted i got u
Higher taxes, yay!
imagine a failure, you are stuck in the middle of Canada and have to wait 2 days for rescue
that would be horrendous. it's bad enough getting stuck in Toronto
Get free health care ?
If this thing fails it's highly likely you won't need any rescue.
ranndino exactly, not rescue, recovery.... of your limbs
Welcome back to the 1800s The pneumatic tube mail was a postal system operating in New York City from 1897 to 1953
this technology is over 133 years old but they make it sound all trendy and new
I like the idea of the hyper loop. Maybe in the future it'll all work out and be safe enough to travel in.
3:44 That's very reassuring, until they're introduced to Murphy's Law.
interviewer is a model wtf
Could you imagine the claustrophobic attack you'd get if one of them just stopped in the middle of nowhere.
It isn't Elon Musk's idea. This was on the drawing boards back in the '70s. All he did was put it above ground.
So you accelerate at 700mph, and arrive from LA to SFO in less than 30 mins.
At what time do you start slowing down the machine. Because the faster you go, the more distance you need to slow down until you come to a full stop.
So at what distance and time will it start slowing down.
very, very roughly about 1 to 2 minutes in the last 10km (6 miles) that is if the passengers don't mind 0.5g of decceleration
The speed they're talking about most probably will be use in long distance. For shorter distance, the speed will be reduced. Acceleration and deceleration are easier to manage.
It will be in a vacum
Yes magnetic force will be use to accelerate and decelerate. Assuming "zero" friction.
These people cant manage the highway between vegas and la. much less a high speed train. This is a scam.. that has made 100 million. Vacuum tunnel under the tahatchapis.. someone deserves jailtime.
What do you do in a vacuum when an emergency hits, like a fire or a loss of propulsion? Like being trapped in an elevator with limited oxygen available and help being far away and unprepared to rescue you in a timely fashion.
Andy Landen a fire cannot take place in vacuum
A fire can't exist, however heat can on the inner surface of that tube. If there's a leak, now that heat becomes fire as things are set ablaze... it's a concept that firefighters are more than familiar with. And with the sudden expansion of that gas if it happens behind a car? you have a shotgun effect now and that isn't good... and if that leak happens in front? That car is going to get stopped, hard and fast, and with no warning.
There is plenty of oxygen in the cabin. How about a fire there? Anyone have an iPhone 7?
what does BART do when it has an emergency in tunnels underneath the ocean of the SF bay? a transit-tunnel system built in the 1970's? ooh, but then, that's SF. perhaps you are new to this topic and concept in general.
manualLaborer What is BART and what does it do?
with a german CEO this will be ready at 2060...
Elon Musk is working on it, he's started Tesla which has been extremely successful and SpaceX which is one of the most successful private space agencies.
Thank God you told me about it! I didnt knew about Tesla and SpaceX...as most people dont (!!) Wow you are well informed !!
Search thunder foot he sas why this will never happen
+panda gaming44 let me say this one small mistake and everyone on the hyperloop will die
Well this a really definitive statement you make. I personaly believe it is possible if it is going to be managed from the right people. Today it is possible you eliminate risk without even have to built something. Its hard to explain here but ist really doable. Thx for sharing your thoughts!
Why does Elon Musk remind me of Dr. Wells....
same
BowsAreForPros same or the freeze guy
That's exactly what I was just thinking...lol
Most unsafe shit ever!
Listen to Thunderf00t!
Yep listen to the youtube personality not the engineers...
what engineers?? the UCLA post grad students? I'm a post grad architecture student and from what I can see the studio shown in the video are just works done by architecture students. this project would still be impossible to do even if it has the full funding from the Pentagon and NASA combined
If you actually watch the video it makes sense. One of the biggest arguments that he makes is the dangers created by the massive pressure difference. Also, he isn't just a UA-cam personality, he is a scientist.
John Walker Moosbrugger because youtubers can't be experts and engineers?
+John Walker Moosbrugger The "engineers" are scammers. They've got a vested interest in making people believe they're trying to construct an actual hyperloop. Those guys could tell you straight-up bullshit if they think it will draw more investors.
Thunderf00t is scientifically competent and has no bias one way or the other. I would trust him over the Hyperloop One team members any day of the week.
I wouldn't listen to those engineers and neither should you. Get an outside opinion that's not a news network.
I love how my 1979 Usborne Book of the Future essentially had this concept outlined. A pressurized bullet shaped passenger pod in a friction-less vacuum tube and propelled by mag-lev... Although the concept drawing was a much fatter pod.
To all the Elon haters, none of this would exist today if not for Elon bringing it to publics attention. Whether he invented it or not is besides the point, we've talked about yhis kind of transport for years heck just give Walt Disney credit for doing it first with the monorail and Tomorrowland but give Elon Credit for making it a reality today. Now you can all go back to your bedrooms accomplishing nothing and hating some more on Elon Musk
+Giggidygiggidy12 The idea actually did exist before Elon Musk. People just ignored it as crazy or impractical though until someone like him brought it back to the public eye from a person they generally respected.
It blows my mind, but yes many people love to "hate on" Elon as the expression goes, meaning they think he has accomplished nothing and think Tesla and Space X is some sort of fad. Well they will wake up to reality at some point and realize Elon is the real deal and so are his companies. If the Model 3 release didn't already take care of that issue.
+モロン
A lot of people hate Elon because right wing talking heads hate him. It's as simple as that.
He was out of his depth when he recommended the Hyperloop. It's a shitty idea, it would never work, and it will generally be remembered in the professional community as a huge embarrassment for Musk.
Just because he brought the idea into the public eye doesn't mean it isn't a shitty one.
uh back it up there dweeb fuck this technology IS NOTHING NEW! you just see your fuckboy elon polished and ready with tesla to push it forward.He is simply a globalist shill enlaving countries with technology most cannot afford and never will sure we can have better transportation but at the end of the day its a outsourced and political..He is not your friend and never will be.Keep idolizing him GOODBYE.
1:37 looks like a fixed up Stephen Hawkings
I would love to see how they can manage to solve the vacuum leak problem in the middle of no where.
+Kevin Ping Service announcement: "Elon wishes to advise that the Hyperloop is out of service for 36 months while we attempt to drain the air pressure out of 10.3 million cubic metres of tube space."
Instead of moving the pods around and opening them up at each end, the pods should have docking collars at each end of the carriage. That way, the pod can simply dock with a collar at the end of the run without having to pass through an airlock or be moved around. Also, two pods can dock together to rescue a stranded pod without having to pressurize the whole system to rescue the trapped passengers.
After every customer the tubes will have to be serviced to disinfect pee, vomit and other things.
100+ years from now when this is the standard people are going to look back on videos like this and have a wonderful insight into how new technologies like this come into being. It's like if we were able to look back at the people behind the creation of the first cars or first trains and see first hand all of the thought and world changing innovation that came with it.
Good thought, I agree.
LOL. Another Musk Idiot who thought this was real.
"when this is the standard" But it will never be the standard. If you believe it can be, you know jack shit.
When did this vocal fry thing become the norm for American women?!
You could ask that about any part of any accent.
it's a millennial thing - older reporters and anchors don't do it
So you're assuming every American woman has this vocal fry thing based on this one woman...keep assuming shit
SingaporeSkater wtf is a vocal fry? Someone got a fry stuck in the throat
Pretty cool ideas!
A hyper fast coffin, moving along a vacuum tube... sign me in!
IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG AT THAT SPEED - IT WILL BE LIKE BEING INSIDE 50 TON TNT BOMB - HAPPY NEW YEAR ON SUPERNOVA
Am I the only one who might feel anxious by little space? Like, you're forced to be in a tube for the whole trip, like from LA to SF. I really hope they at least have windows or something to comfort me and make me feel at ease.
Dude, seriously, no money fund ? What r you doing there? No american appreciate your talent why not go to China then? We have big team and millions fund on this area. And also , first test of our train are finished in 2013 which was already reach 20km per min.
I can't believe this, our company should acquired this team immediately.
+lugang wang Our fucking government is destroying the country
***** We r doing it, and first part is finished already. You just don't know because you can't read Chinese.
We Chinese r not keen on show off, you will see it after we totally finish it.
***** yeah， if we finish it , you can be a witness that we have copy nobody. Because our first test, the test engaged in the air was finished in 2013, it reached 25m/s.
***** you know, this hyperlood project seperate into 2 steps. First test is to test the train can be exerted well in normal context.
Second step is to evacuate the air in the tube , to reach a vacuum context and make the train reaching 50m/s
We already finish the first step in 2013, this new was verified by offical media. But unfortunately, there is no vedio, we don't do any film before it fully finish.
Believe or not is upon on you, just don't say we r copying somebody in the future.
By the way, I tell you another truth. Our scientist almost find "dark matter" in the universe, we already sent a spacial space telescope to space this year. Our scientist r very ambitious to find this materior before US and Europe.
“ only one last step left" they said.
POLAR EXPRESS!!
SNOWPIERCER!!
loved that movie
Man that's going to be a Hell of a ride for those with motion sickness
Great idea but they gotta have a plan for rapid response to fix any "accidents". Terrorism won't ever go
Solar. Freaking. Loops.
reminds me of futurama
Yes!!!!
So when can we expect to see Hyperloop in action and finally
up and running?? Seems it’s been talked about for a long time.
Never.
Yes because computers never make mistakes. Plus they can never be hacked. Great call in regards to safety
Crashing in 700 mph will be very interesting. Trying to stop or brake a train running at 700 mph will be even more interesting.
aint gonna happen, just remember the transrapid
Elon Musk can make it. He have money and he's inventor. Spacex and Tesla became real so Hyperloop is very possible.
it smells like a scaled up version of "too good to be true" kickstarter scams to me. like solar roadways and the self filling water bottle, to quote famous examples. even the concorde failed in the end.
space x isn't doing well...
osvaldo socorro They're trying to colonize Mars. Like I said Elon Musk have a lot of money.
YEAH!!! Remember them iron horses going across the country. Pfft. Ridiculous! How about them there flying machines. There was a nutty idea for ya'. And let's not forget about the notion of sailing away from land and ~not~ falling off the edge. I suppose these people are too stupid to realize that the sun revolves around the earth even.
Meh, even if reality and physics weren't against the idea, you're going to lose 2 hours at each end to TSA and having to be their early to check in, just like flying
The Hyperloop is one of the most ridiculous transport ideas currently being developed. I think Musky is a great guy but he'll look back on this lunacy as a moment of madness.
+Mike Kleinsteuber Many people was a lunatic with a brilliant idea, but in your time was identified how a crazy person. And thanks to these people today you know that the earth is round and that the earth revolves around the sun, I think that´s this is a great development but it needs time to improve
He made reusable rockets possible, he landed his falcon rockets in a landing pod floating on water. And you don't belive he can make hyperloop possible?
I agree its a ridiculous idea. The New Chinese Bullet Trains travel at 400 mph on existing bullet rail technology. To uproot all those rails and put "tubes" all across the place does not seem feasible and anyway America is not going to see that time..
Lol Andres you can't compare the hyperloop to such simple astrological inventions.
Hyperloop: Space Travel in a Gun Barrel
"The Hyperloops biggest problem is making tube travel comfortable."
No.
that girl interviewing him...bet she studied engineering......
+Sephiroth S when you have a body like that you don't have to study.
+EnergeticWaves that is true my friend...im a dude but if i had a body like that i would be happy everyday
+Alexandra beauty is in the brain of the observer.
+EnergeticWaves Trust me
+Alexandra Shushh hater.🖕
0:08 lolwut that kid with the giant dslr
Oh yeah
+g33k how old are you? thats normal these days. kids also have smart phones. some even have cars or their own horses/horse-drawn carriages.
***** look whos talking
you will feel your stomach has left on the other side of the world
Do you feel that way in an airplane?
+T1Oracle airplanes don't accelerate as fast as these do
I believe the engineers are too smart for this. You don't initially accelerate 700 mph in the first second, but you constantly accelerate to 700 mph. I think we would feel around 0.8-1.2 G-force.
These ideas were touted hundred years ago
Elon Musk must be a HUGE futurama fan
So, what would happen if the airtight seal on the wing doors for a capsule broke? Isn't that a serious risk involved with this transportation? Would a scene like Total Recall, with people with exploding eyes take place?
***** So, you mean that I have to decompress miles and miles at once? All while other capsules are traveling at fart speed? Okay, might be possible, but that would cause ripple effects in the whole system, then you would have for hours a number of stranded passengers in the middle of nowhere.
The idea is nice, but, today we live in the age of the Internet.
Why travel for business in the first place? We can do just about anything over the Internet and in the future it will only get better.
The only travel that the we should do is for pleasure, and that, doesn't require any high speed at all.
+Peppe Ddu Do you like to spend 12 hours on a cramped, small, stuff plane? Or would you prefer that trip to be 30 minutes?
+Jackal It depends on how much it cost and the purpose.
Take for example Japan, I can travel on the bullet train 100 miles for $100 per person, or, I can spend half the price and use the highway, it takes twice as long but on a Sunday drive is just lovely and the food/scenery is great, plus I don't have to carry my own luggage.
+Peppe Ddu
We can't only travel for pleasure. Many laws and other legalities, require that an actual person be present when certain things have to be done. Although there is much office work that can be done over the Internet; there is equally much that has to be done 'in person'. Such as when someone needs to sign legal business documents, financial papers, or in other instances, such as overseeing an office. Many workers, who have not been replaced by automation yet, need to be there in person, in order to do their jobs. I could make a very long list of instances where people need to travel to work in person, but I think you get the gist of it. Only traveling for pleasure is a very naive idea.
+Astrogirl1usa, do illegals need to be present when they get a social security card?
+Jackal You think a 12 hour flight would be a 30 min tube ride???
Futurama, lmfao
That's around 1126 KMPH.The Pressure difference has to be insanely tremendous. A projectile aircraft would be quicker than this but very difficult to accomplish.
4:14 that raises a question though. Do you really need to go to an opera a few hundred miles away? What makes old school opera so special that you have to travel there?
Instead, what about investing more in virtualization technology (Oculus Rift and HTC Vive etc) so you can BE THERE without moving your whole body there?
There are some things you just want to do, like go mountain climbing. But there's a great deal of things you don't have to do with your body at the actual location.
The very same thing bothers me about desk jobs etc. Why do we need to be at an office these days when we can do the same kind of work from anywhere in the world?
Let's move away from moving our flesh around and instead moving our mind around... virtually!
POWERED BY SOLAR THORIUM FUSION!!!!
Maybe if they can get it developed by the same time as Hyperloop will be past by governments and population on the path of those routes and the stations.
This is like talking about hydrogen cars without talking about the many potentially insurmountable problems with hydrogen storage (and the problem conceptually with using hydrogen as a fuel). I would love a hyperloop to exist, but I heard that this will be done in a (near-)total vacuum, which puts passengers at serious risk of death if basically anything goes wrong. Also there's the extreme cost of maintaining a vacuum. But this video doesn't mention a vacuum. At all. That's all anyone should care about because that will make or break this idea.
Exactly. I think that a lot of middle-class and lower people think these trips will be for them. This would likely just be for the rich, but since so much of the US's money is in a small fraction of the population, there might not even be enough customers. I feel sorry for investors; I really can't see this happening.
***** Yeah, if constructed right it should be quite risk less and we could probably go with a weak vacuum at slower speeds to begin with atleast. But don't forget the possible terrorism factors and the potential of miss-use of the hyperloop, like weapon distribution or launching.
Inventing a hybrid version of a hyperloop using for example electro magnetism and or jet fuel or something like that might be an idea to consider.
The whole point of a hyperloop is to have resistance-free travel. That requires a vacuum. Otherwise it's a mag-lev train. Mag-lev trains can go fast, but they could not achieve the speeds possible in a vacuum.
This was posted September last year and today I read that this is officially happening in The UAE. By 2021 the Hyperloop will be the 15min connection btw Dubai and Abu Dhabi (as of today it is a 90min ride)...
2:25 The Hyperloops biggest problem is making tube travel comfortable. Everything said here burns my toast. I have a strong feeling that H-loop is to far out of reach. Lots of other more pressing problems in the world that could use our focus and efforts. I mean, Really!
With TSA added to that, it will probably take the same amount of time to fly there
Nice project, but it never convert into reality. To many people lose their job, because it's working without the "human factor". It remains a dream!
What? There weren't any jobs in the first place! I'm sure there's going to be loads of jobs produced actually constructing this monster. Invalid argument.
+whoopsiedaisy Don't be too sure. The human factor is needed to built this "monster" and then? You're right. Your argument is invalid. Keep on dreaming.
+Kunigdąbsław Mgdolwicz lol no. No job's will be lost because no jobs will be taken away OR created when it comes to actually driving the vehicles. There will still be jobs created as staff, security, engineering and tech support and ticket management. Hyperloop is also going to profit an infinitely more amount of times than transportation by train, so i don't see what you're on about with your "not going to happen". IT IS happening right now.
+Kunigdąbsław Mgdolwicz It's not about that. As things are automated, people find other things to do, which improves our world. Think back to the 1850s, when the steam engine replaced a lot of human work. First then could we direct our focus away from food production and towards greater things. Every single industry automated, opens up a completely new market. Money will still flow among people. Machines won't suck up money.
There will probably still be a need for cashiers for tickets, security, janitors, engineers and so on. I believe that this is a job creator, and not the other way around, as what we replace is the car, which we operate ourselves.
It's very hard to explain, but automisation will never be a bad thing in terms of overall human well-beingness. Never.
I'm skeptical too but I won't claim to know more than the people developing the idea.
they know it wouldn't work.. and still take money for it. youd be jailed for the same offense.
Has anyone pinned them down on it being impossible? It seems like that would end the project pretty quickly, given proper news coverage.
Given that the news makes money doing pieces like this, from the 100 million they've stolen so far.. id wager not.
look up Thunderf00t, he has scientifically proven this impossible with our current technologies
how is a propeller gonna work in a low pressure environment... no air to push
The propeller isn't the driving force. It's driven by magnets, levitated by magnets. They want to have as little friction as possible, so they create a low pressure environment. However, low pressure at high speeds still cause pressure at the front, so to take that pressure away, they thought of a propeller.
mPky1 turbines and propellers are basically the same thing they need air to work u can spin them at 25k rpm in space for an hour and not move an inch, its the same in the tube it will do nothing.
i think one of the concepts was maglev - electromagnetic poles toggling to propel the "train" forward in a near-vacuum environment = max speed with almost no resistance (other than its own weight). yes, the fan is a stupid idea.
Who will win?...entire teams of engineers making tube coasters...vs....1 earthquake.
It is repetition of the Swiss Metro project that was proposed by some
EPFL (Lausanne) professors back in 1998 to link Geneva and Zurich. It
would be nice to have that between Montreal and New York.
What's it like crashing at 1126 km/h?
+SolarizeYourLife same as crashing at 130, bad.
+Alroc123 I would say it's way worse and would cause a much bigger large disaster potential.
+SolarizeYourLife You'll feel nothing before losing life in split second
+SolarizeYourLife Crash into what? It's a tube. Unlikely. Plus we already have trains that go fast enough for it to be unlikely to survive if it hits something at full speed.
+Hallgeir E. you think there is only one vehicle in a tube, stupid...
Watch Thunderf00ts video on this. Its im-fucking-possible.
Thunderf00t laughens me. Train traveling at 150mph kills almost if not all on board if there would be a large enough branch on the rails. Sabotage would cause tremendous body counts. So I don't see how this is any different. It's all matter of design. Airplanes are extremely dangerous, hell they hang on top of aluminum at even 10 mile heights. Safety is matter of design.
Practicalities? You wouldn't believe what type of inventions and breakthroughs in material area are happening(covers heat expansion and strength). Electricity? Not a problem, the whole train network in Finland runs on electricity and it seems to run just fine.
Everything is possible, never stop believing. And even if this ends up as failure some of the steps of building this idea might spark a new innovation on it's own. This is the whole point of free, open source science. Everything is possible and all branches can evolve into something wonderful. And lastly just to point out, the some the very best of inventions have been invented due to a accident.
Wrong wrong and wrong. Ever heard of G-Force? That kind of acceleration would crush you against your seat. Ever been in an aeroplane? The acceleration is far more gradual and soft.
GTpcGaming You could still disable the whole system at any point via explosion or whatever.
Everything is impossible according to Thunderf00t.
Its not impossible its that these people cannot do it practically. The whole point is mute. This type of travel will require the security of an airplane. The issue with this is that it becomes impractical over long distances. Too much maintenance and too much construction cost. Too many sources of failure.
When someone puts a hole in the track, its going to be interesting to see how people survive the explosive force of air rushing in there and destroying every pod along the track...
When someone derails a train I would like to see how few hundred people survive when the massive mass of train derails
Yes I would too, cause trains don't travel at 700mph, they travel at 70. Easily survivable.
Al beilec seen this when he traveled to the future as he described in a much older yt video
one crack in the pipe and you shoot out the other side at 1200 mph. and its almost impossible to build pipes that can sustain an almost perfect vacuum. so we got about another 200 years to go.
Nice video and fun to watch. Take care now.
This idea is awesome. It would make the way of life drastically different. Airlines would be forced to reduce their flight costs.
She needs to eat a cheeseburger
10 times better then just a hamburger :)
gangstafly5000 the real kicker is that she prob does... and still looks fine;)
SHE IS SO BEAUTIFUL!
"Completely managed by the computer system, there's no human factor that can actually create those issues."
*Next day, reads dictionary, discovers the term 'Hacker'*
"DAMN IT!"
The biggest problem is a hole in pipe i dont want that shockwave to hit me . _.
this wouldn't work. the physics would cause it the cracks and and lose the vacuum pretty fast.
you mean, IF it cracks. Then theres always maintenance to be done. also, vaccum wouldnt be filled that fast
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America loves taking care of its infrastructure. jk no one wants to pay for anything.
your infrastructure is perfect compared to most countries out there. You just dont know that.
it's not a vacuum it is a low pressure environment
What a load of bollocks, So, how much is it going to cost to find out that this is just fantasy?.
someone's gonna try to fuck it
same thing was said about airplanes and trains, etc
www.reddit.com/r/sex/comments/3cawqv/advice_i_f22_have_a_planemachine_fetish_unsure/
Most certainly less than the track of the California rail project -_-
WRONG VIDEOS
Unfortunately the tube will not have windows, you will be in a metal box with no windows going through another tube with no windows.
I don't think it will be very enjoyable.
+rideforever they will have 3D oled windows. it can show mountain, water, anything you like.
+rideforever Just look around when using the metro. 95% just look in their smartphone. Give them free WLAN in the capsule and the only window they care about is their browser.
I think carriage with horse was more enjoyable than our current cars , yet we all drive cars. Because you do not want to spent half of your life travelling from point A to point B. I think that is the whole point. You can still ride a horse if you want to enjoy.
There's a video on that very topic
Good. More room for me to stretch my legs out. :-)
impossible
the vacuum in such a large area and the expanse of the metal would make it impossible
This will cost QUADRILLIONS!