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Bootheels and Honey Bees: The forgotten history of Missouri's Borders

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  • Опубліковано 11 лис 2018
  • Missouri played a significant role in both the pre-history and history of early European settlement of North America. But when it applied for statehood in 1818, it represented the pressing challenges facing the United States.
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  • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
    @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +257

    Quite a few viewers have asked why I gave the measurements in the introduction in Kilometers and not miles. The reason is that the statistics in the introduction are really intended for foreign viewers, who, it seems, often do not realize the size of the "flyover" states, most of which are the size of a European nation. For those who oppose metrication, New York is approximately 2800 miles from Los Angeles, and London is approximately 1800 miles from Moscow.

    • @phlodel
      @phlodel 5 років тому +13

      Have you done a history of metrification (or the lack of it) in the United States? I've read there was a Congressional resolution to adopt the metric system by 1898. We're a little behind schedule.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +7

      phlodel ua-cam.com/video/yseldOMcT4Q/v-deo.html

    • @mysterymete
      @mysterymete 5 років тому +26

      If the rest of the world would get with the times and forget about that metric nonsense, it would save YT creators a lot of harassment.
      I mean, for hell's sake, can't the French read a clock? ...'Cause it ain't a base-ten system. Use a computer? Better get that bad boy to convert to metric, too! They're all still using binary, hexadecimal, or even octal or duodecimal! It is fortuitous that I randomly chose the French to pick on, as their entire counting system is also based on craziness! Anything over sixty is based on a freakish merging of vigesimal (base-twenty) and decimal (base-ten). It's not even straight vigesimal or decimal, but a combination ... and ONLY after you have a number higher than 60!
      Insanity! ("But metric is the best...")
      Now, I must take my leave. I need to measure a compound of nitrocellulose and nitroglycerin according to a standard represented as one of the 7,000 plump grains of wheat in an 1824 Imperial pound. I believe that's something like 14 stoned liters in metric...

    • @jic1
      @jic1 5 років тому +8

      Most Europeans who speak English as a first language measure distance in miles.

    • @DavidSmith-ss1cg
      @DavidSmith-ss1cg 5 років тому +5

      I believe that Benjamin Franklin wished for the United States to adopt the metric system for all of the types of measurement, and was told that it would be too difficult to change everybody's tools and measurement vessels(for volume measurement). The only decimal system which was adopted was our money, which was the first to use factors of ten in the world, at the time.

  • @The1stgradeteacher
    @The1stgradeteacher 3 роки тому +17

    I'm a lifelong Missouri bootheel resident. Thank you for spotlighting not only our state, but the bootheel. We Missourians that live in the bootheel are the "forgotten" in this state. I'll also add that we don't say "Missourah" around here. We say Missouri. :)

    • @Voorhees88
      @Voorhees88 5 місяців тому +1

      I've always said missourah😂😂

    • @catherinemerrill5511
      @catherinemerrill5511 4 місяці тому

      We do, too. I know hardly anyone who says Missourah.

  • @WX4EMT
    @WX4EMT 5 років тому +176

    The New Madrid earthquake would be a good topic for an upcoming video. MS River flowing backwards for days and forming Reelfoot Lake is definitely history worth remebering.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +85

      Keith Fronk I gave it short shrift here because I hope to get back to it with its own episode.

    • @ralphcraig5816
      @ralphcraig5816 5 років тому +18

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel Trees for over 150 miles from the epicenter were flattened, the tribal folks were sure it was a sign of extreme displeasure from the Great Spirit due to the arrival of the white man. And when the Mississippi started running south again it carved out new channels causing borders to change. Now, go get'em Tiger, I look forward to the full report. Oh, as someone born on the fault line and very familiar with California building codes, I remain aghast that Memphis if filled with unreinforced masonry...

    • @nobodyspecial6881
      @nobodyspecial6881 5 років тому +2

      The newly built steamboat New Orleans was being delivered at the time of the Earthquake too. Which made for a few delays.

    • @twotone3471
      @twotone3471 5 років тому +8

      That series of earthquakes, the year without a summer, and the War of 1812 lead to the rise of religious fundamentalism in the US that continues to this day.

    • @stevejohnson1685
      @stevejohnson1685 5 років тому +10

      ... and how the earthquake was one of the predictions of Tensquatawah, the brother of Tecumseh, and how that factored into the War of 1812, Tecumseh's gathering of the Indian tribes to push the Europeans off the continent, and his eventual death on the battlefield in Canada, east of Detroit. @@TheHistoryGuyChannel

  • @davemcddd
    @davemcddd 5 років тому +85

    As a lifelong Missouri resident of nearly 65 years, this video was fantastic and contained a lot of information I wasn't aware of. Thank you from a flyover resident.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 4 роки тому +6

      Hey! Some of us like to drive through, stop and talk to people while we're there.

    • @henrytawnn8694
      @henrytawnn8694 3 роки тому +4

      @@williamswenson5315 We're definitely more for driving. You can reach any other part of the US in less than 24 hours from Missouri. And there's plenty of neat things to see on the way. And lots of farmland and Conservation Centers and Fish Hatcheries.

    • @williamswenson5315
      @williamswenson5315 3 роки тому +4

      @@henrytawnn8694 Well, before I starting flying anything over 500mi, I took several trips throughout the US via car. Did I want to stop and listen to the wind move through maturing rows of corn? I just did it. A mountain, a lake, a small town with an interesting diner; yes, I stopped for those too. And yes, I rode through St.Joseph when Eminem was in grade school. Not everyone flies over without looking out the window.

    • @henrytawnn8694
      @henrytawnn8694 3 роки тому +1

      @@williamswenson5315 What if you don't have a window seat, though? I'm just joking. I can't even remember the last time I was on a plane, I really just prefer taking road trips with the family. Sure, the long drives can get boring, but there's always some interesting places to stop at.
      The last major road trip we took, we stopped by a place called Prairie Dog Town, and it was, exactly that. You could go inside and there were dozens of holes in the ground and the prairie dogs would come close to you so you could feed them. There's just so many things I wouldn't want to miss.
      But, you know, take a plane if you need to be somewhere far in a hurry.

    • @marlinweekley51
      @marlinweekley51 2 роки тому +1

      I grew up in the Ozarks and while i have traveled many places in my 70 years being in the woods in Missouri is “home” . As a pilot i have flown over all of Missouri from St Joe to the Cape, Bull Shoals, Lake O, Mexico Mo to landing floatplanes on Mark Twain Lake, taken folks for flights around Tom Sauk mountain and helicopter training at Spirit airport. many flights into Sullivan, Cuba and St Clair. Landed in Festus, Fredricktown and Piedmont as well as Kansas City downtown airport and Springfield. several times flown into Jeff City and Kirksville. Yes Missoura is GREAT fly over country - i love it - its home with the friendliest people anywhere. 😊

  • @chrissollazzo6835
    @chrissollazzo6835 4 роки тому +19

    Loved this one.
    Personally, being Missourian, those coastal folks can just keep flying over.

    • @smedge7
      @smedge7 Рік тому

      Sorry, some of us looked out the window and said, "hey, that looks like a great place to live" and moved there.

  • @logansmith8318
    @logansmith8318 2 роки тому +10

    I'm orginally from Ozark County, Missouri, right along the Missouri Compromise line. Loved this episode! Fun fact: A lot of southern Missouri residents actually supported the Union during the Civil War. I've currently been doing a lot of genealogical research that involves skirmishes between Arkansas bushwackers and Missouri Union supporters in and around Ozark County. Many of my ancestors were Union soldiers and sympathizers and fought in Co. H of the 46th Missouri infantry. Its been really interesting diving into the regiment's history and tracking the movements and stories of my ancestors.

    • @meghan7547
      @meghan7547 9 місяців тому

      Missouri as a state is #3 in the number of Civil War Battles fought. Many were quite small but all in all a lot of history here.

  • @deadfreightwest5956
    @deadfreightwest5956 5 років тому +56

    On this topic, The History Guy has truly been able to _"show me"_ an important part of Missouri history.

  • @johnmcmorris1170
    @johnmcmorris1170 5 років тому +13

    I am a native Missourian and avid amateur historian. I thought I knew my state pretty well but I definitely learned some things from this video. This is good stuff!

    • @larryhaller738
      @larryhaller738 Рік тому

      I only thought we went to war with those red legs from Kansas

  • @EmmaChihuahua81
    @EmmaChihuahua81 3 роки тому +9

    Missouri has always been a headache. I've lived here for too long to know that this will never change.
    The Kansas Missouri border war is a fascinating history. I've lived in both states and can attest that the rivalry is still going strong.

  • @petuniasevan
    @petuniasevan 4 роки тому +4

    My maternal grandfather was born in Audrain County Missouri in 1893. I wish I'd gotten to hear his stories of life there before he moved west, but he died when I was only 14 and had yet to develop an interest in such things. "Too soon old, too late smart."

    • @philipcornett6955
      @philipcornett6955 Рік тому +1

      I grew up in Mexico and my grandfather had a farm near Rush Hill.

  • @kewpiefan72
    @kewpiefan72 2 місяці тому +1

    Lifelong Missourian, 70 years. Really enjoyed this, thank you!

  • @garygriffiths6998
    @garygriffiths6998 5 років тому +3

    I grew up in Van Buren County, IA, on a farm near Keosauqua. The "Honey War" was a part of our local history, and we learned that the war nearly started because some Missourians came north and cut down honey trees in territory that Iowa claimed. At least locally, the honey trees were taught as the major factor in instigating the conflict. Great presentation, as always!

  • @tammylobue993
    @tammylobue993 5 років тому +64

    Where were you when I took history in college, and especially when I was High School? You prove, with each episode, that history matters...bravo...bravo

    • @htos1av
      @htos1av 5 років тому +1

      Hear, hear!!!

    • @dakers2052
      @dakers2052 5 років тому +10

      I took an evening college class at a military base I was stationed at back in the 90's (US History 1490 - 1865). The professor was so interesting that all of us students were in class usually 30 minutes ahead to copy down everything on the chalkboard we would be discussing that evening. I love history, so the class was not an issue for me. But we had students that hated history, and by the end of the semester, totally loved the class. Instructors make the difference as to what we learn and retain, or, what we discard as quickly as possible. The History Guy really knows how to catch your attention.

  • @stephenkoehler4051
    @stephenkoehler4051 5 років тому +3

    Learned a lot here. Growing up in Missouri, I know no one who pronounces it "Missourah," I found the lot of this extremely fascinating. I find your videos fascinating and as a student of obscure historical gems myself, I learned few more here!

  • @seththomas9105
    @seththomas9105 4 роки тому +3

    When I was in fifth grade we basically had Iowa history for the whole year. 40 years later I just showed my 8th grade daughter this tidbit on the "Honey War" and she tells me she never heard of it. Shame on you Iowa schools, we're supposed to be better than that. And THANK YOU, History Guy for a great site. Keep up the good work! Signed: A lifelong proud Iowa flyover citizen.

  • @bucklinoutdoorpowerequipme3846
    @bucklinoutdoorpowerequipme3846 2 роки тому +2

    As someone who lived in Missouri all his life and born in Kansas. A good topic would be how state borders changed after the civil war. Not only was West Virginia formed but the western border of Missouri was moved east approximately 5 miles leaving whole towns like what was then Fort Scott, MO to what it is now... Fort Scott, KS. In your words. "Now that is history that deserves to be remembered". My sole source of this is from when I toured the old fort of Fort Scott.

  • @georgeparsons7338
    @georgeparsons7338 2 роки тому +3

    I'm a Missourian and love history so I knew the basics of these disputes, but the history guy really does a good job of filling in the details. I live on the very western edge of Missouri and am always looking for the original north south line on the western border. I think I would have been in the KS territory if the original boundary was maintained

  • @OtterTreySSArmy
    @OtterTreySSArmy 5 років тому +14

    Thanks for giving Missouri some love. People forget that we exist sometimes

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 2 роки тому

      For this Lutheran, Missouri is always in the conversation (as in the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod, originally the German Evangelical Lutheran Synod of Missouri, Ohio, and Other States until 1911, when they merged with the English Evangelical Lutheran Synod of Missouri and Other States and the German Missouri Synod dropped the "German" from the title, reflecting the merger and the declining use of German amongst the Americanized descendants of the original Saxon "Old Lutherans" that settled in 1839-1840).

    • @shinnam
      @shinnam 2 роки тому

      Yes, 90% of the time have to explain where MO is to people not from the US.

  • @peterburgess5974
    @peterburgess5974 4 роки тому +2

    An excellent example why geography and history can't be studied exclusively. Good job, I enjoy watching your presentations.

  • @erictroxell2298
    @erictroxell2298 5 років тому +2

    As usual, another EXCELLENT PRESENTATION. i learned of the honey war in 1989 when, at penn state, i did a college unit on american indians. being pre-internet, i used over 30 books, got an A, but more importantly, I LEARNED a lot about the injustices, lifestyles, and history of american native indians. as a suggestion for future episodes, how about a single episode on each tribe and how/where/when they ended up after "relocation"? thanks again for your wonderful work

  • @Tex1947
    @Tex1947 5 років тому +7

    As a native of Schuyler County Missouri I learned of the Honey War from my great aunt while I was still a young boy. Since her grandfather was a farmer in that area at the time it was a very personal thing for them.

  • @danceswithtraffic8147
    @danceswithtraffic8147 5 років тому +50

    This channel's so good, so much better than the vacuous content that makes up the majority of UA-cam

  • @1967davethewave
    @1967davethewave 4 роки тому +3

    As a lifelong Missouri native I never learned any of this in school. Thank you!

  • @RogerinKC
    @RogerinKC 5 років тому +162

    Can you imagine what Lewis and Clark thought when they first saw the Gateway Arch? Thanks from a grateful Missourian who didn't know half of this history! I'm writing a letter to the Governor at this very moment suggesting we change our state motto from... Missouri -The Show Me State... to... *Missouri - We Have more People Than Denmark!*

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +10

      Roger inKC LOL

    • @alabastardmasterson
      @alabastardmasterson 5 років тому +9

      That would still be better than: Oklahoma is OK

    • @gterschluse
      @gterschluse 5 років тому +16

      I got one for ya Oklahoma: at least we're not Kansas

    • @davidharris6581
      @davidharris6581 5 років тому +6

      Think of what Columbus thought when he first saw Ohio? :)

    • @daveh3997
      @daveh3997 5 років тому +11

      Little known Lewis and Clark fact: In 2003 the US Mint issued a special quarter commemorating Lewis and Clark discovering the first McDonald's drive through, www.theus50.com/missouri/quarter.php

  • @Carstuff111
    @Carstuff111 5 років тому +15

    I live in Northwest Arkansas.... and I know a bit about our northern neighbor.... but this is new and awesome to me :) Hitting a lot closer to home with the history, great way to relax this evening :)

    • @jeffreyevans9431
      @jeffreyevans9431 2 роки тому

      Arkansas lost nothing but a few honey bees in losing the bootheel to Missouri .

  • @karenmcpherson9221
    @karenmcpherson9221 5 років тому +10

    I'm from Missouri and I had heard of the Honey Bee War, but never knew much about it. Where I live now, people don't even seem to know where the state is. They think it's out west around Michigan. So, thank you for talking about the importance it had and for filling in the gaps I had about the Honey Bee War. I thought it was a dispute over bee hives between Iowa and Missouri because honey could be used as money, both states wanted the hives and there weren't enough to go around

    • @rwboa22
      @rwboa22 2 роки тому

      Yet the Honey War is not as memorable as the Whiskey Rebellion, in which George Washington himself, as President and Commander-in-Chief of the Armies of the United States (virtually almost all state militiamen as the newly-created Regular Army was very small) lead the troops to Western Pennsylvania to quell the rebellion and assert the Federal government's right to lay and collect taxes on certain items (mainly whiskey, as it was easier to produce grain alcohol than it was to brew beer). Of course, once Thomas Jefferson became President, he allowed the Whiskey Tax to expire, asserting that the States, not the Federal government, has the right to tax beer and hard liquor (as Pennsylvania did, via the "Johnstown Flood Tax", which is today, an 18% surcharge of all alcohol sold in Pennsylvania, via the State Store system and beer distributors).

    • @philipcornett6955
      @philipcornett6955 Рік тому

      History guy, are you familiar with a journalist/author/radio announcer named Bob Priddy? He had a show in the 80s on radio here in Missouri and across our wide Missouri. He also had three books based on the same episodes. Your style is very similar and I appreciate history becoming living the way you tell it.

  • @justicebinder6544
    @justicebinder6544 2 роки тому +1

    As someone who’s grown up here in Missouri and am very proud of it, this video makes me so happy.

  • @gumunduringigumundsson9344
    @gumunduringigumundsson9344 5 років тому +43

    Absolutely brilliant channel. Thank you so much.

  • @ChrisRmaas
    @ChrisRmaas 5 років тому +17

    Hello, I would just like to thank you for reenergizing me in my love for history which had slowly been slipping away after having to sit in history class.

  • @stephanleukert4859
    @stephanleukert4859 5 років тому +6

    Only half of us pronounce it with a "rah", the rest of us pronounce it correctly. I think it's an east/west thing. Very interesting, I'd love to see more Missouri history. Thanks! You provide an invaluable service.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +2

      I would say more of an urban/rural thing. It really does depend where you are in the state.

    • @lauraryan8921
      @lauraryan8921 3 роки тому

      I think it's more of an educational divide. Have met more people from St. Louis that say ah and not ee. Live in MO 4th largest city. Seems to be a bit of North/South divide as well

    • @americasevilgenius
      @americasevilgenius 9 місяців тому

      @@TheHistoryGuyChannel And it's a thing that--until recently--was taken seriously enough that statewide political candidates would often produce two sets of TV and Radio ads: One set that used the "Missour-eee" pronunciation (for the St. Louis and Kansas City markets), and another set that used the "Missour-uh" version (for Springfield and markets in the South).

    • @michaelpriesendorf9598
      @michaelpriesendorf9598 4 місяці тому

      I pronounce it both ways. With fellow statesman it's rah.Foreigners it's ree.

  • @johnkriete2152
    @johnkriete2152 2 роки тому +2

    I was born in St.Louis, relocated to Wyoming at 4. Spent 30 years out west before returning to Missouri. I’ve been here too long and I really miss my mountains.

  • @Haronniin
    @Haronniin 5 років тому +2

    Thanks for this video. As a recent transplant to Missouri, I’m eagerly learning all I can about my new home.

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 5 років тому +23

    Three cheers for The History Guy, "Hip Hip Hurrah!"

  • @hlynnkeith9334
    @hlynnkeith9334 5 років тому +10

    "I'm from Missouri. Show me."
    When I was an undergraduate, our math department hired upper level math majors and masters students to tutor those students who took the single math course required of humanities students and were -- shall we say -- overwhelmed. The room assigned had a sign over the entrance that read "Welcome to the Missouri Club". The innumerate entered saying, "Show me how to do this." Hence the name of the tutorage.

  • @rarebasses
    @rarebasses 5 років тому +2

    I’ve been a Missourian my whole 52 years. Never knew most of this. Thank you sir for making this video!

  • @performa9523
    @performa9523 5 років тому +1

    I gotta say, the enthusiasm is absolutely contagious- this show is brilliant!

  • @LynneWright
    @LynneWright 5 років тому +16

    I’m so glad I happened to come across your channel! Really looking forward to sharing with my daughter for school.

  • @edyoung646
    @edyoung646 5 років тому +7

    after seeing this presentation, it is hard, impossible to imagine Twain hailing from any other state. good work, "perfesser~

  • @perrydowd9285
    @perrydowd9285 5 років тому +1

    Thanks again HG. The way history and geography interrelate makes both subjects so much more enjoyable.

  • @revkenordquist
    @revkenordquist 5 років тому +2

    You really research and condense these presentations to tell these histories that deserve to be remembered in such a palatable and interesting way that it's obvious your love for history comes across so very well. The work you put into it is impressive and since I'm convinced our school systems teach more of an American mythology than history, so these videos you do seriously help make up for it. Thank you

  • @Ferrarienzo109
    @Ferrarienzo109 5 років тому +57

    Look forward to your videos every time they pop into my sub box. Keep up the great videos!

  • @steelgranny9027
    @steelgranny9027 5 років тому +3

    I live in Missouri and never heard this piece of history. Thank you.

  • @harleyarrants4993
    @harleyarrants4993 5 років тому +1

    “MY GOD!”, You are prolific! Your energy level must be incredible. I second another subscriber with the same impression...A LOT of information in just 13 minutes. Thank you History Guy!

  • @adamdavis7663
    @adamdavis7663 5 років тому +2

    As a native of Missouri, I love this episode! Love your channel as well. I almost always learn something in your episodes. A thought for a future episode and it is Missouri related. The story of the baldknobbers in the Branson area is great example of how a group of well meaning individuals started a vigilante group to enforce justice in the area, and soon the organization became a group of outlaws themselves.

  • @frankcobb9983
    @frankcobb9983 5 років тому +3

    Another great piece of history thanks I listen to everyone with great enjoyment

  • @williamthethespian
    @williamthethespian 5 років тому +5

    I was born and raised in Kansas City, less than a mile from a portion of the battle of Westport. I stood silent and alone there on the centennial of the battle, where nothing but a small placard made note. Such was the dearth of remembrance during the turbulent '60s. (My last visit there revealed a bit more memorial however.) (Subscribed)

    • @RogerinKC
      @RogerinKC 5 років тому +1

      I'm in Westport at this very moment!

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 5 років тому +1

      @@RogerinKC Having a beer then?

  • @BlueBaron3339
    @BlueBaron3339 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for pointing me to this outstanding video today. Oh, I'd seen it, but for some reason I enjoyed it even more this time. Now, I know you love aviation, Lance, and perhaps fortune can now favor that you take it up...yeah, it didn't cost nearly as much when I learned. But I've flown over those states...in a humble '46 Luscombe. Tiny old aircraft. And slow too. *_THAT'S_* the way you can both fly over so much of the country without losing either the beauty of the landscape or an appreciation for how immense it truly is 😮

  • @robertortiz-wilson1588
    @robertortiz-wilson1588 4 місяці тому +1

    Imagining the two militias coming to confront one another with everything they were caring is truly wonderful!

  • @wormface5000
    @wormface5000 5 років тому +8

    What a great episode!

  • @jonwhite5339
    @jonwhite5339 5 років тому +7

    I live in New Madrid it's pretty cool to see my little town in your video.

    • @drgwhatsthetruth3783
      @drgwhatsthetruth3783 5 років тому

      Portageville, here.

    • @phxJohn2010
      @phxJohn2010 5 років тому

      Do you pronounce "madrid" like he does too? I've never heard anyone say it like that before.

    • @phxJohn2010
      @phxJohn2010 5 років тому

      @krag8 I should have known better than to ask. He certainly does his homework.

  • @bigal7454
    @bigal7454 5 років тому +1

    I am from Missouri (pronounced Miz-ur-ee) and I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for shining a brief spotlight on my beautiful state's history. I look forward to seeing all of your videos as they are posted.

    • @RogerinKC
      @RogerinKC 5 років тому

      I'm in KCMO where it pronounced - Mis-er-y

  • @C.O._Jones
    @C.O._Jones 5 років тому +2

    Missouri is really fascinating for such an unassuming midwestern state. It’s always the quiet ones who are most interesting...🧐
    Also, thank you for going into detail about the area and distances involved - oftentimes it seems Europeans don’t realize just how far apart things are in North America.

  • @carolynhowk146
    @carolynhowk146 5 років тому +13

    New episode! Whoohoo!

  • @christophercirillo5008
    @christophercirillo5008 5 років тому +7

    Bald Knobber episode please.
    Yet another great video, thank you.

  • @danieljohnson3328
    @danieljohnson3328 4 роки тому +1

    You are so much better than the history channel ever thought of being. Thank you for your videos.

  • @brainfat1
    @brainfat1 5 років тому +1

    As a Missourian with a fascination with history, I knew a bunch of this, but there was plenty I didn't. Thanks for the focus on this little known but important part of American history. If you haven't, I recommend you do a segment on the early history and immigration to St Louis. Plenty of interesting history and then so many people flooding the city between the 1840"s and 1900 and the huge industry that grew up here to supply the residents but also the growth of the western US. Keep up the good work.

  • @TP-tc7vp
    @TP-tc7vp 5 років тому +15

    It is one of my favorite treats to see a THG:HDTBR notification!!

  • @pmvaldez1
    @pmvaldez1 5 років тому +33

    Grandpa Simpson does not recognize Missouri.

  • @montegb2951
    @montegb2951 5 років тому +1

    The wealth of information on this channel is simply fantastic.

  • @chokkan7
    @chokkan7 5 років тому +1

    I was very impressed by your research on this topic. As someone who was born and raised in the MO bootheel area, I can vouch for the fact that Missourians have gotten the pronunciation skewed on many place names; not only New Madrid, but Hayti (locally pronounced Hay-tie), Advance (ad-Vance), and Cabool (named for Kabul). You pronounced it just as a local would have...

    • @davidcox3076
      @davidcox3076 5 років тому

      Also very impressed with his pronunciation. I still get odd looks for "Missourah". What's worse is, "I'm from Sikeston." "Saxton?" "No, Sikeston!" "Saxton?" Or my mom being served Asti in Wisconsin when she wanted ice tea.

    • @chokkan7
      @chokkan7 5 років тому

      My wife (who is Japanese) gets the biggest kick out of hearing me pronounce 'ice cream'...
      I was born in Sikeston, BTW, raised in Dexter. Missourah has produced more than its share of iconoclasts, I'm proud to say...

  • @bighoonk
    @bighoonk 5 років тому +13

    *_Arkansas..._* my home state! Hmm, reminds me, slightly, of that documentary series on the History Channel, *_The States,_* hosted by Edward Herrmann.

    • @cougarhunter33
      @cougarhunter33 5 років тому +2

      I miss Edward Herrmann. One of the great VO talents.

    • @bighoonk
      @bighoonk 5 років тому +1

      @@cougarhunter33 - Yes, 100% agreed! *_Mike Wallace, Peter Graves and Jack Perkins_* were first rate presenters, as well. However my four, technically three, all-time favorite presenters are: 3.) that one English presenter from the Discovery Channel's, early 90's series, *_Firepower;_* 2.) *_Colgate Salsbury_* and *_Dave Hill(the voice actor)_* from the series, *_Ancient Warriors;_* #1.) the ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT, *_James Burke_* and his ABSOLUTELY MAGNIFICENT series, *_Connections!_*

  • @dewiz9596
    @dewiz9596 5 років тому +52

    Wow! A lot to assimilate there, in just 13 minutes!

    • @Powertampa
      @Powertampa 5 років тому +4

      I watched it thrice now and still have not understood it all

    • @OriginalEric
      @OriginalEric 5 років тому +1

      @@Powertampa Yeah, his videos are usually pretty interesting but this...

    • @SlyPearTree
      @SlyPearTree 5 років тому +1

      I guess it is harder for those of us not familiar with the geography of the U.S. A lot of pausing a looking up less confusing maps and Google Earth migh be needed to fully grasp everything. What were all those names on the maps that were shown? Settlers?

  • @aehamilton7
    @aehamilton7 4 роки тому

    Another great snippet of History worthy of remembrance thank you.

  • @navret1707
    @navret1707 Рік тому

    As in most of these videos, this one showed me that there was “a lot going on under the covers” then I was taught in school history classes. Well done, THG!

  • @twogoldtoofas5674
    @twogoldtoofas5674 5 років тому +3

    Thank You Sir. Very well put & very informative. I am a Missourian myself, and for whatever reason though the Dred Scott case had everything to do with the "compromise" issue....You Sir, are Awesome.
    Can You explain in another video, the border dispute that also nearly led to another would be war between neighboring states, and that being over the area of Toledo ? ... if I'm not wrong, isn't that how the "U.P." of Michigan, came to be ?
    Thank You again.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому

      It did, but later, as the Supreme Court did not rule on Dredd Scott until 1857, and by then the Missouri Compromise had been superseded by the Kansas-Nebraska Act.

  • @agnewtj
    @agnewtj 5 років тому +4

    Fantastic! How about an episode on John Law, the Mississipi Bubble, and the founding of New Orleans? (the city is preparing for its 300th anniversary!)

  • @sameyers2670
    @sameyers2670 5 років тому +1

    Thank you History Guy for all your work.

  • @marlinweekley51
    @marlinweekley51 2 роки тому

    As an ole Missoura boy who grew up in the Ozark i am fascinated by Missouri history. My great grandfather was conscripted by the confederates (which was the Missouri national guard at the time iam told. Apparently they left Mo and spend most of the war in Vicksburg surrounded by Grants army) at age 15. He escaped somewhere in northern Arkansas and spent days hiking through the woods finally making it home where they lived near Cherry , Mo. i have hiked and run on the Ozark Trail many time each time thinking in awe how he was able to bushwack through that terrain and find home. Thanks HG for another fascinating history lesson.😀

  • @hellsapoppin2048
    @hellsapoppin2048 5 років тому +5

    I would love to see an episode about General Stand Wate and the Cherokee Mounted Rifles during the Civil War in Oklahoma.

    • @NefariousKoel
      @NefariousKoel 5 років тому

      Yes! We don't hear much about them.

  • @martyjackson4806
    @martyjackson4806 5 років тому +7

    Have you heard of the Aroostook war 1837 between Maine and Upper Canada? I stay at Fort Ingal in Cabano Quebec when traveling. (Think bunk house Air B&B) It's pretty great that we have something like that.
    Keep up the great work!

    • @taun856
      @taun856 5 років тому

      When I was a kid my family lived in Limestone, Maine... When they talked about the Aroostook was in school , the joke amoung my friends was that the loser had to keep it... Not a fair opinion of some beautiful countryside, but we were 10 years old after all...

    • @martyjackson4806
      @martyjackson4806 5 років тому +1

      @@taun856 I live in London Ontario and had driven through Cabano (It's changed names now?) for about 10 years and never knew about this fort or the Aroostook war! It wasn't something we learnt about in school...? Probably because we are in the hot bed of the war of 1812 area. South Western Ontario.
      Only when I was planning to stop for cheese and camp did I find it. Fomagerie Le Detour fromagerieledetour.ca/en/ Wow! The cheese!!!
      It's 12 hours from my place and camping at and old English fort sounded like fun. No more camping but you can stay in the bunk house.
      The fort is one of the best forts I've come across. It's worth while visiting just to check it out.

  • @Bambisgf77
    @Bambisgf77 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you from Ozark, Missouri
    This Louisiana transplant learned a lot in 13 mins! Love THG!!

  • @MichaelSchwagerPlace
    @MichaelSchwagerPlace 5 років тому +1

    History guy, you make history absolutely fascinating!!! Thanks!

  • @nevyen149
    @nevyen149 5 років тому +26

    When I first caught the title in the corner of my eye, I thought it said "Brothels and Honey Bees".
    I'm thinkin' that would be a different episode altogether.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +13

      nevyen a fireman and a clown walk into a brothel: ua-cam.com/video/RYUhKcJAsrQ/v-deo.html

    • @huw3851
      @huw3851 5 років тому +2

      That's how I read it too. Not sure what it says about us.

    • @pmritzen2597
      @pmritzen2597 5 років тому +4

      LOL! That WOULD be a story!
      Pop Quiz by the history guy! The fireman and the Clown. Toronto circus disaster, correct? Yes I've been paying attention sir.

    • @nevyen149
      @nevyen149 5 років тому +4

      Time for a second 'adult' channel of THG...
      "The History Guy: TOO Hot for UA-cam"

    • @kristenheuer5676
      @kristenheuer5676 5 років тому

      Haha

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 5 років тому +11

    Drawing lines for anything like this can be a problem and fraught with danger. You only have to look at the Middle East and the boundaries drawn up after WW1 when the Turks were driven out.
    When I studied archaeology one thing that did surprise me is that many boundaries where not just old but were ancient. There are English village townships today where parts of the boundary date back to the Bronze Age which is 2200 BCE to 700 BCE.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +1

      Agreed, every boundary has a story.

    • @rabbi120348
      @rabbi120348 5 років тому

      It'd be an interesting segment to look at middle eastern politics today through the lens of the Bible. E.g. whenever there was a strong government in Jerusalem, Egypt would treat with it; Egypt (modern) was the first country to sign a peace treaty with the State of Israel. Something in the land, the resources, transcends who is peopling the place and the same patterns seem to repeat themselves.

  • @derweibhai
    @derweibhai 5 років тому +1

    I am from Nebraska and live near the borders of MO and KS, and not far from IA. This was a very interesting story of my neck of the woods. Thank you.

  • @drgwhatsthetruth3783
    @drgwhatsthetruth3783 5 років тому

    Thank You. I live just 7 miles from the Mississippi river and 15 miles from New Madrid...very interesting information. Love it.

  • @nevik9199
    @nevik9199 5 років тому +8

    #6!! i think this is my highest! luv this channel!

  • @orvillefulk9018
    @orvillefulk9018 5 років тому +5

    Lived my whole life in the Platte purchase and never knew why Missouri had a boot heal thank you for the story

    • @shinnam
      @shinnam 2 роки тому

      Lived in Monroe , got an A in MO history. Never knew either.

  • @lotharvonrichthofen4474
    @lotharvonrichthofen4474 5 років тому

    Wonderful!! Really enjoy these gems...thank you

  • @ghms4540
    @ghms4540 5 років тому +2

    These wonderful snippets of history are superb sir! I love American history but are much to lazy to do the research that you do. If you ever, and I mean ever, put your episodes on disk, I would stand in line with a lot of people to get my copy. Please continue.

  • @DoublePTech
    @DoublePTech 5 років тому +55

    Also, how about the Mormon wars that started in Missouri.

    • @TheHistoryGuyChannel
      @TheHistoryGuyChannel  5 років тому +31

      rodeostore yes, I do plan an episode.

    • @dunzerkug
      @dunzerkug 5 років тому +5

      Don't forget to mention MO Executive Order 44 when you do.

    • @whoareyou1034
      @whoareyou1034 5 років тому +5

      What is a Mormon? Do you mean the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints? :D

    • @hoosierhiver
      @hoosierhiver 5 років тому +4

      The Mormons were more feared than the Indians in some places.

    • @cougarhunter33
      @cougarhunter33 5 років тому +3

      Some of my extended family were Mormons that were going to catch a wagon train west but ended up staying in Eastern KS after the steamship pilot died.

  • @markweinstein7845
    @markweinstein7845 5 років тому +3

    Another great one! Possible future topic .... Filibuster War with William Walker in Nicaragua

    • @dclark142002
      @dclark142002 5 років тому

      Yes! He could cover some of the other attempts at filibustering from that era.

  • @terrymaginnis7226
    @terrymaginnis7226 5 років тому

    As always succinct while making sense out of things that DID NOT make sense even at the time. History as it should be presented, factual and understandable! Great Job!

  • @jamesjacocks6221
    @jamesjacocks6221 5 років тому

    This surveying debacle suggests an alternate theory of the “show me state” origin. Ha ha. Great presentation! The History Guy is a gift to the curious minded and he deserves to be remembered when thinking of the most talented presenters.

  • @tammylynn828
    @tammylynn828 5 років тому +9

    Another informative & entertaining video, thank you!
    Signed, a Missouri girl who pronounces it correctly (without an A)

    • @militarychica07
      @militarychica07 5 років тому

      I had a language arts teacher in 6th grade that pronounced it with an A at the end. She went to college in Arkansas, so I just like to think that's why she miss pronounced it😂🤣😂jk.

  • @Joemama555
    @Joemama555 5 років тому +70

    wait... who is flying over? WE LIVE HERE!

    • @altcoin5631
      @altcoin5631 5 років тому

      Typical elitist smug attitude seeping through from the History Guy, sorry to say.

    • @SinSear001
      @SinSear001 5 років тому +1

      Yep. Those were my exact words when he said that.

    • @craigleemehan
      @craigleemehan 5 років тому +11

      Sssssh! We want them to keep just flying over. We don't want them moving here and screwing everything up.

    • @timan2039
      @timan2039 5 років тому +2

      @@craigleemehan Don't worry, I do not fly but do drive and do my best to keep stops to a bare minimum.

    • @chadsimmons6347
      @chadsimmons6347 5 років тому +1

      WE know we have it good here in Missouri, i wish the idiots would move out!

  • @MisterMitchMM
    @MisterMitchMM 5 років тому

    As always. Excellent. Thank you. All the best. Mitch

  • @Kickinpony66
    @Kickinpony66 5 років тому +2

    I learned more (in this 13 minute video) about the Missouri Compromise than I was ever taught in School. Thank you for making this video. I live in Jackson County, Missou(rah) :) I had no idea that the original West border was a near straight line, North and South! Once again, thank you! I rate your presentation of information and video quality as nearly equal with Mr. Edward Hermann.

  • @alfazedz1791
    @alfazedz1791 5 років тому +3

    "[flyover country is] important to American history." Some living here might argue it's currently important to America.

  • @samwood7033
    @samwood7033 4 роки тому +4

    Re: pronounciation of Misouri by "locals"... citizens from North part of state roughly demarked by the Missouri River generally pronounce it Missour-E, while citizens from the South part of the state generally say Missour-a.

    • @sandrastreifel6452
      @sandrastreifel6452 4 роки тому +1

      Sam Wood: I’ve always wondered about that, and how people in the SHOW ME state, really pronounce the name!

    • @demandred1957
      @demandred1957 4 роки тому +1

      I live here, and been all over the state.. It's Missouri with a Ree. Only weirdos and people who like to be contrary use rah on the end of a french word.

    • @daveg5420
      @daveg5420 2 роки тому

      The settlers that came from Appalachian areas pronounced it with a Rah. Part of the Appalachian dialect is using the uh sound on words that end in “i”.

  • @eggsngritstn
    @eggsngritstn 5 років тому +2

    As someone who has always lived in 'flyover' territory, I'm glad that it gets its due sometimes. Well done!

  • @elainegreen5855
    @elainegreen5855 5 років тому +2

    Awesome video! Thank you, from your friends in SW Missouri : )

  • @briandady9030
    @briandady9030 5 років тому +29

    As a Missourah born I really appreciate your telling of the tale!

    • @bobs182
      @bobs182 5 років тому +4

      Brian, you must be from SE Missourah as most people say Missouree.

    • @frankenzion0001
      @frankenzion0001 5 років тому +1

      Actually, it's "Muhsouree" (Northwest Missouri).

  • @Mujangga
    @Mujangga 5 років тому +5

    Excellent video! How about a history of Liberia.

    •  5 років тому

      BET channel just did one.

  • @I_am_a_cat_
    @I_am_a_cat_ 5 років тому +1

    You're the man. Some might even say... You're a history man.
    I dont know, I'm dumb. Haha.
    Appreciate you as always. Never miss any of your videos.

  • @WaltzingAustralia
    @WaltzingAustralia 5 років тому +1

    Always pleased to see the Midwest remembered! (And such remarkable history.)

  • @DoublePTech
    @DoublePTech 5 років тому +5

    Should do an episode on the New Mexico territory.

  • @maniyan_wanagi
    @maniyan_wanagi 5 років тому +6

    As an Iowan, I heard about the Honey War while studying at the University Of Okoboji.

  • @TheIrishAmish
    @TheIrishAmish 5 років тому

    Your videos are absolutely wonderful! BRAVO SIR

  • @davegrimes3385
    @davegrimes3385 5 років тому +2

    Thank you for another great video! For your next episode, I submit for consideration the battle of Cadiz 1702. An exercise in failure, drunk troops, and a ripping yarn.