I watched these series - T M Krishna sir's- continuously one after the other in one single day. I was literally glued to these series. Could not concentrate on any other activities! Very engaging. Very informative. I cried at many parts. Thanks from the bottom of my heart for creating these videos.
A very informative session...just one observation: towards the end of this part, where TMK expounds on how the hrsva and dheergha syllables are allowed to be treated in the neraval, he says the Hrsva can be expanded, but the dheergha cannot be contracted....true. But, where he says a hrsva can be converted to a dheergha, and not vice versa, i think a misunderstanding of the concept can arise. Ramaa (hrsva 'ra', and dheergha 'ma' ), and Raamaa (dheergha 'ra' and dheergha 'ma' ) are two different words, with very different meanings.....in Carnatic, the sound of every syllable in the sahitya , be they hrsva or dheergha are kept intact.....the neraval can only manipulate the 'time' for which the individual syllables are 'intoned', but not the very 'pronunciation' of that syllable. So rama ( रमा ) , for however long the hrsva 'ra' is uttered and however short time the dheergha 'ma' is uttered, can (and should) never become ram ( रम ) in its final sound, nor can (and should) it ever become raamaa ( रामा ).
I don't think he is exactly talking about the pronunciation, though it has a role to play in what he is saying. The fact that 'रमा' & 'राम' are two different words is true. I believe he is talking about the time spent on each letter. The pronunciation of words should not change but the time spent on each letter can. The time spent on a Hrsva letter, being short, can be increased while improvising, that is, in 'रमा' I can stretch the 'र' while improvising. This does not mean that I will pronounce it as 'रा'. But Dirgha letters, being long, have an inherent pause in them, that is, in 'रमा' to pronounce 'मा' properly takes some inherent minute amount of time. Krishna says you cannot decrease that time because then the pronunciation will change. All in all, he seems to suggests that the pronunciation of Hrsva letters does not change even if one stretches them during improvising but the pronunciation of Dirgha letters does change if one decreases the inherent time required to properly pronounce them.
As the expert himself says it is all patterns of sound . God may not know the feelings that cause those sounds basically noise and music have different internal and external properties . Poet and trapeze are different 😊 noise and music are different
Wow! Such an intuitive demo. Couldn't have asked for a better one! Greatly appreciate the efforts +First Edition Arts Channel for giving us such quality content! Unfortunately, I'm afraid throughout the video, the right side camera is continuously out of focus. Bothered me a bit. Also, the previous versions seemed to have better audio isolation.
I watched these series - T M Krishna sir's- continuously one after the other in one single day. I was literally glued to these series. Could not concentrate on any other activities! Very engaging. Very informative. I cried at many parts. Thanks from the bottom of my heart for creating these videos.
God bless all of you that are responsible for bringing this series out. Lots of cheer n happiness to the master.
Even Muruga thirumalmaruga in harikamboji starts before beat
A very informative session...just one observation: towards the end of this part, where TMK expounds on how the hrsva and dheergha syllables are allowed to be treated in the neraval, he says the Hrsva can be expanded, but the dheergha cannot be contracted....true.
But, where he says a hrsva can be converted to a dheergha, and not vice versa, i think a misunderstanding of the concept can arise.
Ramaa (hrsva 'ra', and dheergha 'ma' ), and Raamaa (dheergha 'ra' and dheergha 'ma' ) are two different words, with very different meanings.....in Carnatic, the sound of every syllable in the sahitya , be they hrsva or dheergha are kept intact.....the neraval can only manipulate the 'time' for which the individual syllables are 'intoned', but not the very 'pronunciation' of that syllable.
So rama ( रमा ) , for however long the hrsva 'ra' is uttered and however short time the dheergha 'ma' is uttered, can (and should) never become ram ( रम ) in its final sound, nor can (and should) it ever become raamaa ( रामा ).
I don't think he is exactly talking about the pronunciation, though it has a role to play in what he is saying. The fact that 'रमा' & 'राम' are two different words is true. I believe he is talking about the time spent on each letter. The pronunciation of words should not change but the time spent on each letter can. The time spent on a Hrsva letter, being short, can be increased while improvising, that is, in 'रमा' I can stretch the 'र' while improvising. This does not mean that I will pronounce it as 'रा'. But Dirgha letters, being long, have an inherent pause in them, that is, in 'रमा' to pronounce 'मा' properly takes some inherent minute amount of time. Krishna says you cannot decrease that time because then the pronunciation will change. All in all, he seems to suggests that the pronunciation of Hrsva letters does not change even if one stretches them during improvising but the pronunciation of Dirgha letters does change if one decreases the inherent time required to properly pronounce them.
As the expert himself says it is all patterns of sound . God may not know the feelings that cause those sounds basically noise and music have different internal and external properties . Poet and trapeze are different 😊 noise and music are different
Wow! Such an intuitive demo. Couldn't have asked for a better one!
Greatly appreciate the efforts +First Edition Arts Channel for giving us such quality content!
Unfortunately, I'm afraid throughout the video, the right side camera is continuously out of focus. Bothered me a bit. Also, the previous versions seemed to have better audio isolation.
Does anyone has the full recording of the pallavi " nelatha marulu kontini " ? If yes can you please share them.
28:06 :3
superb
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Carnatic Music is unique and its indeed Science!!!
wish there is more clarity for the speaking.Important because many students,other music lovers may want to make notes on what you are sharing.
no need
Why sir
No need why sir