7:00 - It's mostly why a lot of films (but not all) that were passed both X and 18 in the past get reclassified 15, because the BBFC's guidelines change over time and things that are acceptable at 15 nowadays were not okay in the past, etc. Also on the topic of video nasties, I believe the film Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker / Night Warning (1981) might be finally having a UK home video release after being rejected by the BBFC back in 1987 (when it was submitted under the title The Evil Protege), as it was recently passed 18 in March 2024 and no cuts were mentioned either. In fact it was also passed 18 back in 1983 also for home use, so I don't know why it got rejected in 1987 after being accepted years before, only for it to be accepted again this year. Some sources even still claims that the film is still banned in the UK when essentially it might not be true anymore. Interesting isn't it?
U.S. and France for home media doesn't impose these strict age restrictions on DVDs, Blu-rays, or even via streaming oftentimes using their own algorithms or their own systems circumventing the centralised systems (MPAA is more for cinema and mainstream titles, CNC in France is for cinema and TV really)
I used to import a lot of Irish releases on VHS due to them receiving an uncut issue compared to the UK version. For instance, Intruder was censored here but put out completely uncut in Ireland
@@immortalliumhorror8718 Cosa Nostra were a popular Irish company that also put out a lot of stuff that were still banned in the UK. They issued New York Ripper uncut
I have a few genuine video nasty tapes in my collection myself. -My favourites being Zombie Flesh-Eaters "strong uncut version" and the accidentally released uncut version of The Burning. I have to agree with you the bbfc we're nothing but oppressive and self-righteous pricks with a god complex.
That's awesome! I'm hoping to see Zombie Flesh-Eaters soon so I'll be interested to see how it is. It's frustrating but I can only hope that the BBFC becomes more lax. They provide a good service but the limitations that they put in place can be annoying. Hopefully we can see an uncut release of I Spit on your Grave released over here someday.
I liked the video btw - it makes a lot of valid points. The BBFC are a regulator and like most regulators they really don't want to push the outer limits of their regulatory powers because that usually ends up with politicians calling for regulators to be scrapped!
A minute and 41 is enough time for a *lot* to happen especially in a horror film. I’m curious as to how the USA’s censorship is compared to the rest of the World. 🤔 Hope you’re doing well 👍
Definitely. I don't know how much of a difference it would make to this film in particular but I generally want to experience as close to how the director and writers envisioned it.
The US kind of does what you were suggesting. The ratings aren't enforced they go G PG PG-13 R (17+) NC-17 (18+) Honestly seems like an odd pattern. There's also on for TV (they sometimes use for home video releases as well) TV-Y, TV-G, TV-Y7, TV-PG, TV-14, TV-MA
Yeah, it seems like it would be a better system overall. One thing I don't get is NC-17 though. Apparently it's so bad to get that that most films end up either getting trimmed to an R or released unrated. I get the trimming to an R but there should never be a situation where going unrated is better than having the max rating.
@@immortalliumhorror8718 People often mistake NC-17 for being equivalent to the BBFC's R-18. Maybe in terms of how it's treated however the rating on it's own is closer to just 18. Now I was wondering if you the German rating system. There seems to be a strange situation I can't QUITE get. You see for what I hear the MPA doesn't rate p---. I hear the FSK doesn't in Germany either. In the US Interspecies Reviewers was released by a p( )n company (despite not being REAL p--) Now in Germany it was rated mix of 16 and 18. So I asked someone if it's rated the equivalent of R-18 in the US and 18 in Germany. Are they not rated the same? He said "there is no equivalent of R-18 in the US the MPA doesn't rate p***. NC-17 is just equivalent of 18." That's my point! And now I'm confused as all heck! because it's still 18+ either way, right! BUT the difference is you CAN find 18 on streaming in Germany, whereas EVEN the streaming version of Interspecies Reviewers was censored to TV-MA (since the ratings on most streaming sites in the US only go up to 17) but they do go up to 18 for movies since NC-17 is NOW 18 and up. Now in Australia they actually do have an R-18 equivalent called X-18+ and it was banned over there. Which makes me even more confused! However in Australia the streaming version was SO censored it was rated MA-15+!
@@cradica Ratings systems boggle my mind. You should hear me rant about them to my friends! I remember hearing that that show was controversial but I didn't realise that a p**n company had rescue licensed it! Fascinating. I'm not particularly familiar with the German ratings system. Australia has always been particularly sensitive when it comes to media. I remember hearing lots of stories about movies and video games getting banned there since they were refused a rating. I understand why ratings exist but man are they confusing and contradictory!
@@immortalliumhorror8718 Fitting that you replied to me now! I just saw someone mention how it was banned in this video, but he said it was originally rated MA. What a crazy coincidence! In America it was also rated a rating called "MA" but was re-rated to a warning screen that looks like this: ua-cam.com/video/C97L3pR5H5k/v-deo.html. This was his video ua-cam.com/video/tNtRnl7S_Kk/v-deo.html Now I remember telling someone how in the US the first 3 episodes were rated 17+ and she asked if they'd rate it by episode. I said it'd be on a blu-ray. So she said it's call going to have the same rating. Ironically on the Germany release they did rate it by disc!
@@cradica The BBFC rates things disc to disc as well. One disc could be PG and another be 15! Yeah, Australia needs to reform their ratings board as well. Too many problems to even list!
7:00 - It's mostly why a lot of films (but not all) that were passed both X and 18 in the past get reclassified 15, because the BBFC's guidelines change over time and things that are acceptable at 15 nowadays were not okay in the past, etc.
Also on the topic of video nasties, I believe the film Butcher, Baker, Nightmare Maker / Night Warning (1981) might be finally having a UK home video release after being rejected by the BBFC back in 1987 (when it was submitted under the title The Evil Protege), as it was recently passed 18 in March 2024 and no cuts were mentioned either.
In fact it was also passed 18 back in 1983 also for home use, so I don't know why it got rejected in 1987 after being accepted years before, only for it to be accepted again this year. Some sources even still claims that the film is still banned in the UK when essentially it might not be true anymore.
Interesting isn't it?
Yeah. Their guidelines are an ever changing and near incomprehensible mystery. Oh! That's awesome! I'll need to keep an eye out for! Thanks m8!
I once owned the original British VHS of Terminator 2: Judgment Day (15) and Batman Forever (PG) and both movies on VHS were cut versions.
Oh wow! I'd never heard of that happening! What exactly was cut from them if you don't mind me asking?
U.S. and France for home media doesn't impose these strict age restrictions on DVDs, Blu-rays, or even via streaming oftentimes using their own algorithms or their own systems circumventing the centralised systems (MPAA is more for cinema and mainstream titles, CNC in France is for cinema and TV really)
Yeah, I'd much prefer a system like those. Too many restrictions with the current one which can be immensely frustrating!
I used to import a lot of Irish releases on VHS due to them receiving an uncut issue compared to the UK version. For instance, Intruder was censored here but put out completely uncut in Ireland
Really! That's actually incredible! Didn't know that at all!
@@immortalliumhorror8718 Cosa Nostra were a popular Irish company that also put out a lot of stuff that were still banned in the UK. They issued New York Ripper uncut
I have a few genuine video nasty tapes in my collection myself. -My favourites being Zombie Flesh-Eaters "strong uncut version" and the accidentally released uncut version of The Burning. I have to agree with you the bbfc we're nothing but oppressive and self-righteous pricks with a god complex.
That's awesome! I'm hoping to see Zombie Flesh-Eaters soon so I'll be interested to see how it is. It's frustrating but I can only hope that the BBFC becomes more lax. They provide a good service but the limitations that they put in place can be annoying. Hopefully we can see an uncut release of I Spit on your Grave released over here someday.
You won’t ever see an 18+ certificate (except R18) whilst we have an Obscene Publications Act that covers movies.
I'd actually forgotten about R18. Yeah, it's a shame as well as it could potentially solve a lot of issues.
I liked the video btw - it makes a lot of valid points. The BBFC are a regulator and like most regulators they really don't want to push the outer limits of their regulatory powers because that usually ends up with politicians calling for regulators to be scrapped!
@@Nelbertine1 Thanks! Yeah, it's a shame.
A minute and 41 is enough time for a *lot* to happen especially in a horror film.
I’m curious as to how the USA’s censorship is compared to the rest of the World. 🤔
Hope you’re doing well 👍
Definitely. I don't know how much of a difference it would make to this film in particular but I generally want to experience as close to how the director and writers envisioned it.
The US kind of does what you were suggesting. The ratings aren't enforced they go
G
PG
PG-13
R (17+)
NC-17 (18+)
Honestly seems like an odd pattern. There's also on for TV (they sometimes use for home video releases as well)
TV-Y, TV-G, TV-Y7, TV-PG, TV-14, TV-MA
Yeah, it seems like it would be a better system overall. One thing I don't get is NC-17 though. Apparently it's so bad to get that that most films end up either getting trimmed to an R or released unrated. I get the trimming to an R but there should never be a situation where going unrated is better than having the max rating.
@@immortalliumhorror8718 People often mistake NC-17 for being equivalent to the BBFC's R-18. Maybe in terms of how it's treated however the rating on it's own is closer to just 18.
Now I was wondering if you the German rating system. There seems to be a strange situation I can't QUITE get. You see for what I hear the MPA doesn't rate p---. I hear the FSK doesn't in Germany either. In the US Interspecies Reviewers was released by a p( )n company (despite not being REAL p--) Now in Germany it was rated mix of 16 and 18. So I asked someone if it's rated the equivalent of R-18 in the US and 18 in Germany. Are they not rated the same? He said "there is no equivalent of R-18 in the US the MPA doesn't rate p***. NC-17 is just equivalent of 18." That's my point! And now I'm confused as all heck! because it's still 18+ either way, right! BUT the difference is you CAN find 18 on streaming in Germany, whereas EVEN the streaming version of Interspecies Reviewers was censored to TV-MA (since the ratings on most streaming sites in the US only go up to 17) but they do go up to 18 for movies since NC-17 is NOW 18 and up. Now in Australia they actually do have an R-18 equivalent called X-18+ and it was banned over there. Which makes me even more confused! However in Australia the streaming version was SO censored it was rated MA-15+!
@@cradica Ratings systems boggle my mind. You should hear me rant about them to my friends! I remember hearing that that show was controversial but I didn't realise that a p**n company had rescue licensed it! Fascinating. I'm not particularly familiar with the German ratings system. Australia has always been particularly sensitive when it comes to media. I remember hearing lots of stories about movies and video games getting banned there since they were refused a rating. I understand why ratings exist but man are they confusing and contradictory!
@@immortalliumhorror8718 Fitting that you replied to me now! I just saw someone mention how it was banned in this video, but he said it was originally rated MA. What a crazy coincidence! In America it was also rated a rating called "MA" but was re-rated to a warning screen that looks like this: ua-cam.com/video/C97L3pR5H5k/v-deo.html. This was his video ua-cam.com/video/tNtRnl7S_Kk/v-deo.html
Now I remember telling someone how in the US the first 3 episodes were rated 17+ and she asked if they'd rate it by episode. I said it'd be on a blu-ray. So she said it's call going to have the same rating. Ironically on the Germany release they did rate it by disc!
@@cradica The BBFC rates things disc to disc as well. One disc could be PG and another be 15! Yeah, Australia needs to reform their ratings board as well. Too many problems to even list!