What Happens When Rain ⛈ Gets on a Holosun Closed Emitter Red Dot 🔴 Optic?

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  • @randomdog8107
    @randomdog8107 2 роки тому +854

    So it's over priced trash ?

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +82

      I got some more details to share (new video coming up), but overall I’d still buy Holosun. There’s still value to it. I bought two of the same ones. You can still see the target.

    • @thinix396
      @thinix396 2 роки тому +197

      Holosuns really good bang for your buck
      Not everyone gon drop 600 bucks on an eotech

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +22

      @@thinix396 Absolutely

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +45

      @@thinix396 Exactly. Even the “professionals” out there use them for defense or duty use. They’ve been tested over and over.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +26

      @@J3o3 I believe Sector 7 (S-7) HDF uses Holosun.

  • @allenhurt02
    @allenhurt02 Рік тому +938

    Send it in for warranty. There should be no fogging inside at all. Kinda defeates the purpose of closed emitters.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому +71

      It’s definitely headed there soon

    • @prone_wolf8871
      @prone_wolf8871 Рік тому +7

      concur

    • @ATLWood13
      @ATLWood13 Рік тому +2

      Send it back to China??

    • @Hadouken5150
      @Hadouken5150 Рік тому +12

      And that’s why you buy trusty American made optics… or Swedish.

    • @Swanhub
      @Swanhub 11 місяців тому +21

      @@Hadouken5150Yeah, good luck finding an American made pistol optic, especially a closed emitter one.

  • @JR2387
    @JR2387 2 роки тому +1065

    Why can't people just talk in their videos? I've had enough of the annoying ass computer or barbie voice. Saying everything for them. So annoying!

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +81

      Others have said I talk too much in my videos so I decided to hire my assistant robot female. Can’t please everyone 😂

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +1

      @@numbblackpicture 🔺

    • @JR2387
      @JR2387 2 роки тому +85

      @@crimbullet F everyone... be yourself... it's more admirable.

    • @kws5786
      @kws5786 Рік тому +7

      I agree

    • @shinobi-no-bueno
      @shinobi-no-bueno Рік тому +2

      ​@@numbblackpicture See ya 🤷

  • @CombatBuckee
    @CombatBuckee Рік тому +164

    No thats not acceptable at all. Closed emitter optics should have ZERO fog whatsoever.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому +14

      They should but I’ve been seeing “higher quality” optics like the ACROS do the same

    • @flinchfu
      @flinchfu Рік тому +3

      Right? Should be sealed with argon or something.

    • @kdworak4754
      @kdworak4754 Рік тому +1

      ​@@crimbullet does the fog go away eventually?

    • @mattgeiger9988
      @mattgeiger9988 15 днів тому +1

      My truck is enclosed. Unfortunately, it fogs. Same as my aimpoint aco

  • @2amichaelj
    @2amichaelj 2 роки тому +189

    We used to put rainx on the lenses in the Army and that would prevent fogging.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому +9

      Interesting. I’ll have to try that!

    • @EtherFox
      @EtherFox 2 роки тому +39

      "Cat crap" may work better. It's a real product, not clowning, better than rainx for some motorcycle visors.

    • @HeyItsThattGuy
      @HeyItsThattGuy Рік тому +8

      So how do you apply it inside the sight 😑

    • @2aisabsoluteTim
      @2aisabsoluteTim Рік тому +11

      Miniature window wiper

    • @hondaservicecenter
      @hondaservicecenter Рік тому +2

      ​@@HeyItsThattGuysuperglue the seams

  • @GrapeDrank001
    @GrapeDrank001 Рік тому +118

    Suppressor height sights and they still aren’t high enough😂

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому +5

      Right!!!???

    • @ZX9RinHollywood
      @ZX9RinHollywood Рік тому +16

      Because that mounting plate is 22 inches thick 😂 wtf

    • @9770G
      @9770G Рік тому +6

      That’s why all these optic mounting solutions from the factory are shit. U want it done right u send your slide out to be milled.

    • @Orudaiken
      @Orudaiken Рік тому

      ​@@9770Gproblem with closed emitter micro dots is that the screws are on the bottom. So milling can't help. That optic needs a plate to be mounted.

    • @trackntrail2869
      @trackntrail2869 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Orudaiken False, you can mount them direct if the slide is milled properly. For example, EPS Carry & P365

  • @anabelandralph5418
    @anabelandralph5418 Рік тому +96

    That voice needs to be banned!

    • @solarlion144
      @solarlion144 Рік тому +1

      seriously. asteroids please 🙏 I can't hear this ai voice again or I'll break my phone.

  • @ssaymetae
    @ssaymetae Рік тому +56

    Your iron sights look super useful..

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому +11

      LOL. Months after posting this, I changed the optic and went to a Leupold Deltapoint Pro where I can now co-witness.

    • @jefferydean6239
      @jefferydean6239 Рік тому

      See , the only real life fix for real in the field fix.Good stuff.

  • @VitalyMack
    @VitalyMack 7 місяців тому +3

    OMG, I would be livid mad if that's not a manufacturer defect.

  • @alanphillips1344
    @alanphillips1344 Рік тому +5

    They didn’t say if the fog was inside the unit or outside. That makes a difference.

  • @TargetAcquisition
    @TargetAcquisition Рік тому +3

    All these people yapping about fogging. If you’ve ever actually used optics, trained well, and been in real situations, you’d know that you can shoot a target with the optic window COMPLETELY BLOCKED.
    That’s why it’s important to keep both eyes open.
    Lens Fogging happens when temperatures change too quickly. Hot to cold/ cold to hot, and the optic hasn’t had time to acclimate. This applies to sealed and open optics. Gas inside of seal optics have to adjust to temperature too.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      Well said. Finally some logic here! 💯

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 10 місяців тому

      @@crimbullet No that isn't well said that is somebody that doesn't understand simple science. Fog is condensation of water vapor. If the optic is sealed correctly then there should be no water vapor in there to condense. The gas isn't condensing because the temperatures for that are colder than any weather on the planet. Both of you are numpties that are talking out their backsides.

  • @mikebell7407
    @mikebell7407 5 місяців тому +4

    “I can still see the target a lil bit”

  • @somerandomassguyontheinter2869
    @somerandomassguyontheinter2869 4 місяці тому +2

    the seal for the emitter is probably cracked letting the moisture in. send it in for repairs or DIY if you know what you’re doing

  • @tundralife5570
    @tundralife5570 10 місяців тому +12

    A little fog? I’d say we prefer no fog.

  • @CutlassOutdoors
    @CutlassOutdoors 4 місяці тому +2

    Your rear sight shifted between the beginning and the end of this short. And a little internal fogging is a big deal. Any fog should be external.

  • @theexpressionbooth
    @theexpressionbooth Рік тому +4

    A ittle fog in it means it didnt work.... water got inside.... I think its the battery compartment that is not sealing.

  • @lazarus1867
    @lazarus1867 Рік тому +2

    "What happens when rain lands on your holosun optic??"
    It gets wet...

  • @riz7032
    @riz7032 Рік тому +6

    Imagine paying money for an optic that doesn't have gas fill, jfc irons are free all day you gonna press the front sight anyways unless gay.

  • @antonw-uw4ov
    @antonw-uw4ov 10 місяців тому +2

    What happens is that the rain landing on the optic has it's means of production seized by the proletariat.

  • @TEXAN_SHADOW
    @TEXAN_SHADOW Місяць тому +1

    EPS carry. Fog on the outside.. it’s called humidity guys calm down 😂 happens to mine all the time. Just wipe it off. Plus… maybe invest in irons that actually cowitness 😂

  • @EDCCarry
    @EDCCarry 9 днів тому +1

    The alien gear rapid force holster has a integraded optic cover been using it for almost 2 years now and its great

  • @Contest4Freedom
    @Contest4Freedom Рік тому +1

    Looking forward to your video on this and thank you for doing this for us.

  • @dsan94
    @dsan94 Рік тому +2

    My open emitter holosun works in the rain as long as the emitter doesn't fill with water. Then i just flip it sideways quickly to dump it out and its back. I am going to move to a closed emitter eventually, but it works well enough.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому +2

      Excellent visualization. With an open emitter after the first shot, the recoil tends to clear the water from the emitter. The problem is you have to justify the first shot if you are using for self-defense purposes. The other method is what you just described.

  • @wildcat8598
    @wildcat8598 8 місяців тому +1

    They make an anti fog/anti moisture lens cleaner and protector called “Cat Crap” (yeah I know the name isn’t exactly appealing 😂 but) this stuff works great. I use it on all my optics, lights and my PVS14. Comes in a small container and doesn’t take but a smidge to apply on a lens and then just wipe it off. Also helps with light lenses that get carbon buildup on them. Having that coating on there helps when it’s time to clean the lens and everything just wipes right off. No solvents needed. Plus I think it’s like 5 bucks on Amazon and one small container will last forever

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  8 місяців тому

      The problem is that the moisture was stuck inside the lens.

  • @drmnez
    @drmnez Рік тому +10

    No fog and still works on a RMR type 2 when rained on

    • @FortNite-fb5wm
      @FortNite-fb5wm 7 місяців тому +1

      What I’m sayin 😂 my Trijicon don’t do this shiet

    • @TEXAN_SHADOW
      @TEXAN_SHADOW Місяць тому

      RMR is open reticle so I would hope so?

  • @TattooBull
    @TattooBull 8 місяців тому +4

    For how much one of those cost it should not fog up at all !

  • @Hadouken5150
    @Hadouken5150 11 місяців тому +5

    Should’ve saved a little longer for the Aimpoint.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  11 місяців тому +1

      I can’t think of any Aimpoint products that should be put on a handgun at this point of time.

    • @Hadouken5150
      @Hadouken5150 11 місяців тому +3

      @@crimbullet ACRO p2.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  11 місяців тому +3

      @@Hadouken5150 I’m sorry. I stand corrected. Yes, the Acro p2 is the way to go

    • @mrdark9916
      @mrdark9916 5 місяців тому +2

      ​@@crimbulletthey have had this exact same problem recorded. Same with Steiner.
      .

  • @slothoner6946
    @slothoner6946 6 місяців тому +2

    Lmfao. “Enclosed” but gets foggy?
    I’ll stick with my Aimpoints, EOTechs, and Trijicons.

  • @Vernhyde
    @Vernhyde 5 місяців тому +1

    I have a 509T and I have taken a shower in full kit for about an hour with no issue. If you are fogging you need to check and see if you cracked it or something.

    • @SomberlainTx
      @SomberlainTx 5 місяців тому +1

      Proof or it didn’t happen

    • @Vernhyde
      @Vernhyde 5 місяців тому

      @@SomberlainTx I'll make a Tactical Gear Shower OF

  • @videocardzrule354
    @videocardzrule354 Рік тому +4

    It fogged up because it’s not filled with Nitrogen.

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 11 місяців тому

      Either that or, the most likely case, the seal around one of the lenses was faulty (and the gas got out as a consequence).

  • @kristapsziemelis
    @kristapsziemelis 3 місяці тому +1

    Red dots might have some disadvantages, so I would rather prefer iron sights + laser light combo.

  • @eugenechurch6135
    @eugenechurch6135 Рік тому +20

    Sprays water on own optics. Boy I'm glad I got the closed emitter version.
    Lmao

  • @80hd6
    @80hd6 Місяць тому +1

    Maybe a safarilands rds holster will prevent that

  • @philipgentile4769
    @philipgentile4769 Місяць тому +1

    Pros and cons to anything. However I’m not ready for the closed optic yet. When I am ready, it will be an Aimpoint.

  • @shockwave.9749
    @shockwave.9749 Місяць тому +1

    I got a Holosun GR407K on sale for either 200 or 225 💪

  • @Conan361
    @Conan361 7 місяців тому +1

    It just fogs up and or blurs the dot. Hmm almost like a non existent problem with iron sights

  • @lorenzotrujillo4750
    @lorenzotrujillo4750 5 місяців тому +1

    Ive never had any problems with any of my holosun optics in any condition

  • @RayRayWasAGoodBoy
    @RayRayWasAGoodBoy 10 місяців тому +1

    I’ll remember to get one when I start carrying in the shower 😂

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  10 місяців тому

      Hahahaha 🤦🏽‍♂️

  • @TheBMAN104
    @TheBMAN104 Рік тому +6

    At the end of the just buy what makes you happy and feel cool. I buy stuff that I want regardless of what any expert or salesman says. I’m a tradesmen and I know a thing or two about tools. The difference between quality valuable tools that make you money and the shit tools that just make you lose your patience and money. But you won’t understand each tool until you actually start using your tools and breaking them.
    I work hard for my money so I don’t waste it on cheap tools anymore.
    Buy it once, regret once!

  • @jacobmckay5452
    @jacobmckay5452 Рік тому +1

    Buddy was in the rain for the first one and the second one he was obviously under cover out of the rain

  • @rabbitseason
    @rabbitseason 11 місяців тому +1

    Ye’ ol iron sights will forever reign supreme my lads!

  • @Lugghandle
    @Lugghandle Рік тому +1

    Glass when you hold it out in the rain: Gets condensation AKA a little bit of foggy-ness
    EOtech snobs: (gasps) I'll have you know that my optic defies physics.
    😅

    • @devalishxb91
      @devalishxb91 Рік тому

      You butt hurt you can't afford one 😂😂😂

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 11 місяців тому

      Nitrogen filled optics don't fog up, the seal on that thing must be fucked. Spotty QC is a recurring issue with cheaper products.

    • @thomgizziz
      @thomgizziz 10 місяців тому

      @@lucastonoli3256 They can still fog on the outside... are you really this daft?

    • @lucastonoli3256
      @lucastonoli3256 10 місяців тому

      @@thomgizziz that's not fog, that's just water on a surface.

  • @DBravo29er
    @DBravo29er Рік тому +2

    Fog is from the temperature differential of the cool rain drops hitting the warmer glass. It's on the outside. You can see in the video.

  • @mikejones2823
    @mikejones2823 2 місяці тому +2

    What about thunderstorms from the sand storm😂

  • @armenius7553
    @armenius7553 2 місяці тому +1

    Yeah you don’t want any fog in it

  • @stephensellers2453
    @stephensellers2453 Рік тому +1

    If any object doesn't work after it gets wet I don't want it

  • @Precisionstriker
    @Precisionstriker Рік тому +5

    Thumbs down for the tiktok crap

  • @Darkmattersfrank
    @Darkmattersfrank 2 місяці тому +1

    What’s the point of being enclosed if it can fog up from water entering the optic? You’d be better off with a regular optic that you can wipe dry and not have to wait for fog to burn off

  • @AJ-xc4nm
    @AJ-xc4nm 6 місяців тому +1

    Your optic has a leak. You need to send it in for warranty.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  6 місяців тому

      I did. They have an excellent warranty program.

  • @sudonix5923
    @sudonix5923 6 місяців тому +1

    Yea for all the shooting in the rain and egressing water insertions we do

  • @saturnsl21999
    @saturnsl21999 7 місяців тому +1

    beautiful Scottish weather

  • @Beans420MoreBeans
    @Beans420MoreBeans Рік тому +4

    Fog????? Eotech would never

  • @scottsmith31
    @scottsmith31 3 місяці тому +3

    Automatic “don’t recommend channel” press when I hear the stupid robot voice

  • @smnkm4ehfer
    @smnkm4ehfer 7 місяців тому +1

    My half a dozenTrijicon RMRs work when they get wet and it doesn't get fog in them lol. My aimpoints don't get fog in them either 🤷🏻‍♂️ and I don't support the CCP with any of my optics.

  • @pacorojas8122
    @pacorojas8122 Рік тому +6

    Interesting. I don’t get that on my rmr

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      I have a RMR as well and it also fogged up that same day when I brought out my Glock 22 (RMR is mounted to it)

  • @user-ln5ps7lv7b
    @user-ln5ps7lv7b 4 місяці тому +1

    Don’t even gotta worry with irons.

  • @Cortezuma
    @Cortezuma Рік тому +1

    The same thing that happens when it gets on an open emitter… absolutely nothing.

  • @Wade-1
    @Wade-1 8 місяців тому +2

    My 509t is the best pistol optic ive ever owned. Even better than the Acro.

    • @gjna5143
      @gjna5143 3 дні тому

      Like carrying a brick on your pistol though. Looks ridiculous

  • @joshmartin7558
    @joshmartin7558 2 місяці тому +1

    Who stands in the rain with their setup?

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 місяці тому

      Dumb people like me filming content 🤷🏽‍♂️ 😂

  • @seabournewolf2298
    @seabournewolf2298 Рік тому +1

    so if it was in the rain all day it probably wouldn't work

  • @rickypickles2219
    @rickypickles2219 Рік тому +3

    Watsup with the 6000 moa ring lol

  • @crumply5959
    @crumply5959 6 місяців тому

    Bro spent all his money on the blick but had barely any money for the optic

  • @JonSauce98
    @JonSauce98 Місяць тому +1

    wait, whats the point of the raised irons if you still cant use em?

  • @user-tt4cq6ju9n
    @user-tt4cq6ju9n Рік тому +4

    Upgrade to acro p2

    • @mrdark9916
      @mrdark9916 5 місяців тому

      The Acro P2 have had this exact same problem recorded. Same with the Steiner.

  • @fin_jan
    @fin_jan Рік тому +1

    I guess it shrinks your irons, cause those babies aren't making it over the base of the rds.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      Yes. The rear irons are not visible.

  • @johnhandcock7631
    @johnhandcock7631 5 місяців тому +1

    That plate is ruining everything

  • @KaoTicNiko
    @KaoTicNiko Рік тому +1

    Iron sights could never

  • @shinebox1329
    @shinebox1329 10 місяців тому +1

    The real question is, why would you put an optic on a ccw pistol??

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  10 місяців тому

      Rapid target acquisition

  • @unholyspoon4886
    @unholyspoon4886 Рік тому +1

    Hey bud an enclosed dot isn’t supposed to fog up on the inside that means it’s not enclosed properly it loses the whole point of it

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      It’s not and defeats the whole purpose. Unfortunately, the higher priced optics like the ACRO have done the same

  • @StevenZoeZoe
    @StevenZoeZoe 7 місяців тому +1

    It blows up

  • @havenbanks5778
    @havenbanks5778 7 місяців тому +1

    but its Holosun so nobody expects much

  • @markcollins3732
    @markcollins3732 Рік тому +1

    Needs a better holster. Suggest alein gear rapid duty holster

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      It is being replaced by Safariland 6360RDS. Alien does not make one for Staccato

  • @controlledchaos8851
    @controlledchaos8851 Місяць тому +1

    Shawn sindell from NJ ?

  • @jt6620
    @jt6620 2 місяці тому +1

    Shouldn't happen when these are niteogen purged!

  • @minilogoguy18
    @minilogoguy18 Рік тому +1

    Holosun needs to bring their prices back down to where they used to be. These chinese optics got way overpriced from all the hype.

  • @D-dogtactical734
    @D-dogtactical734 Рік тому

    Lol all y’all don’t understand how the closed retical works saying the fog is bad the retical comes apart in 3 peices and is not water tight but the red dot itself is water proof

  • @ShadowMan-ks5vo
    @ShadowMan-ks5vo 3 місяці тому +1

    Rainx baby

  • @yaezo415
    @yaezo415 Рік тому +1

    Why tf do you have those big ass iron sights just to buy a red dot thats sooo big that you cant co witness

  • @qthestorm_patriot
    @qthestorm_patriot 7 місяців тому +1

    Wasn't purged properly

  • @John-ei8wq
    @John-ei8wq Рік тому +5

    “The reticle still works”
    Then why is it not visible at all

  • @anson__carter
    @anson__carter 5 місяців тому +1

    What that's not good lol a little fog, 100000% unacceptable 🤣

  • @956jt
    @956jt 6 місяців тому +1

    What happens when rain lands on your gun period

  • @justinwilliams9452
    @justinwilliams9452 2 роки тому +1

    "Recticle Ralph"
    Inside joke.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  2 роки тому

      “Reticle Ralph” 😂 😂 new one

  • @MrOliverk2
    @MrOliverk2 Рік тому +4

    This is exactly why I choose to stay away from closed emitter optics. They will eventually get moisture on the inside and fog up.

    • @ernestoechevers4741
      @ernestoechevers4741 Рік тому +1

      Hahahaha i stay away from optics.

    • @NotAFurry-vk4bs
      @NotAFurry-vk4bs Рік тому +1

      @@ernestoechevers4741 yep no batteries and no fog

    • @POPJack1717
      @POPJack1717 Рік тому +5

      ​@@NotAFurry-vk4bssame argument they used for rifled optics 15 years ago.

    • @Nicki_Habicki
      @Nicki_Habicki Рік тому +4

      ​@@NotAFurry-vk4bsokay grandpa

  • @The2aAdvocate
    @The2aAdvocate Рік тому +1

    Fog water drop proof. Send it back

  • @facts_people-n
    @facts_people-n Рік тому +1

    Perfect for school

  • @skycountrymusic
    @skycountrymusic 5 місяців тому +1

    A little fog lmao shouldn’t get any at all

  • @SierraKilo6
    @SierraKilo6 Рік тому +1

    “That’s all” Lolol doesn’t that defeat the purpose of it being a closed emitter? That optic is not sealed properly and should be returned. Are they all like this?

  • @Free_entertainment401
    @Free_entertainment401 2 місяці тому +1

    That is a fail. It’s shouldn’t fog up

  • @mrdark9916
    @mrdark9916 5 місяців тому

    Any pistol intended for due to use, needs to be in a holster intended for Duty use..... AKA a holster with a hood, and active retention.
    It's just that simple

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  5 місяців тому

      Not really. US Border Patrol runs no hood; just the ALS system. Open top.

    • @mrdark9916
      @mrdark9916 5 місяців тому

      Just because a particular agency doesn't use something doesn't mean it's not ideal. There's a lot that goes into equipment that gets issued for different agencies and department. Budget as well as contracts ect. If they don't issue red dots on their pistols (idk if they do) it wouldn't even be something they would have considered.
      But I firmly stand by what I said. A real duty holster should protect the optic from the elements. 100%
      And irons should absolutely be cowitnessed. If you can't co-witness irons with a setup, that setup needs to be ditched. I would rather run just irons versus a Red Dot with no backup irons.
      But BOTH are ideal. And active retention REGARDLESS.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  5 місяців тому

      Ok. I see what you’re are saying now. When you consider RDS, it makes sense. I agree about the holster covering the RDS. That’s why I don’t use this particular holster anymore. I’ve transitioned to the Safariland 6360 RDS Level 3 with the optic enclosure. As for the optic, it’s no longer in use since I could not co-witness.

  • @thisiconisactuallygoofysfa9960

    The sights don’t even come up to the optic

  • @billdrill22
    @billdrill22 Рік тому +1

    A little fog?? Huh?

  • @The-LongRoad-Home
    @The-LongRoad-Home 11 місяців тому +1

    Just saying if it's registered and if you haven't been beating the fuck out of it
    Send it back lol.
    HS is great with the warranty stuff

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  11 місяців тому

      I already sent it back and got a replacement. Pretty quick

  • @joegasparro2395
    @joegasparro2395 Рік тому +3

    Not a good ad. A little fog is no good. U can get water on the 508 and everything works, so what's the diff?

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      One is an open and the other is a closed emitter. If you get water or debris on the 508’s emitter, you have to shake it off.

    • @joegasparro2395
      @joegasparro2395 Рік тому +1

      @@crimbullet I carry a 508, my window looks same as urs with water, minus the fog. And I can still get a sight picture, when it's wet, so I shoot, water flies off, problem solved.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      @@joegasparro2395 I see what you’re saying, but that is the issue. You have to fire a shot to get the water off, right? In a self-defense situation, you might not be justified to fire that one shot that is used to get the water off. I could see on a flat range that will not be an issue, but in a self-defense context where you have blood, liquid, or even sweat that gets on the emitter, you’ll have an issue. I actually don’t carry the 509 anymore. About three weeks after I publish the video, I took it off of my duty gun. I run an open emitter now (Leupold DPP). A fog issue that you mentioned, is going to have to be addressed through the warranty. That’s not acceptable.

    • @joegasparro2395
      @joegasparro2395 Рік тому +1

      @@crimbullet Yeah, I'm essentially saying it's the same. I think the closed emitter train is a bit overblown. Sure, it protects the emitter, but not as big a deal as the internet makes it out IMO.

    • @crimbullet
      @crimbullet  Рік тому

      @Joe Gasparro Yes, and that is one of the several reasons why I removed the 509 from my gun and I was okay with buying two Leupold DPP

  • @MatthewC176
    @MatthewC176 Рік тому +6

    Uhhhhh, yeah no, closed emitters are for mud not rain, personally filled an rmr emitter with water and it worked fine, closed emitters with rain give you two walls of light bending water droplets to distort your view, open emitter only has one of those, mud on the other hand will stop a dot so if mud is common for you then closed emitter all the way, as it’s easier to wipe glass then to wipe the emitter, that’s literally the difference

    • @User-r5w2n
      @User-r5w2n Рік тому +1

      How is anybody supposed to read this

    • @User-r5w2n
      @User-r5w2n Рік тому +1

      Also if it’s wet “just wipe the glass”. Your single lens has 2 sides, by double lens has 2 sides. It’s the same

    • @yusriyahbagheri8843
      @yusriyahbagheri8843 Рік тому

      So you're saying every aimpoint and eotech can't be used in the rain? You don't know what you are talking about.

    • @yusriyahbagheri8843
      @yusriyahbagheri8843 Рік тому

      @@User-r5w2n he seems to think the most popular style and brands of red dot aren't made for rain.

    • @MatthewC176
      @MatthewC176 Рік тому

      @@yusriyahbagheri8843 I said its 2x the raid droplets that can interfere with your view vs the one main lense on an open emitter red dot, never said they're useless, If you want a "rain proof" red dot you'd need, windshield wipers, hydrophobic glass, or something like the holosun AEMS with two clear flip up covers that can be disengaged when the rain/water clears
      Also aimpoints and eotechs are shit change my mind.

  • @TheJMuffins
    @TheJMuffins 2 роки тому +6

    Weird to hear this robo voice for a Gina video

  • @cujo3440
    @cujo3440 Місяць тому +1

    This video is so cursed

  • @john-qz3fu
    @john-qz3fu Рік тому +3

    Fog = trash optic

  • @stlwolf71
    @stlwolf71 Рік тому +2

    I have seen open emitters that look better when wet. I'm not impressed for the money.

  • @jamesscott5168
    @jamesscott5168 Рік тому +3

    Eh. I'll just put a little rainx on my rmr.