Excellent historical review, words that should not be forgotten, unfortunatly they reflected, materialised and remain strongly in our social/political present status. These middle east parasitical interests just keep helping the weekening of its ideological hosts.
My opinion of Harry Truman has been receding for some time now and this video has been very illuminating. Once again The Real News is bringing important information to the people. Thanks.
Henry Wallace makes me proud to be an Iowan and an American. In the past, there was a fairly strong strain of Progressivism in states such as Iowa and Wisconsin. These states still are very moderate, but the times have changed. For some reason, the Democrat party as a whole no longer promotes the narrative of Progressivism. Democrat politicians still use it as rhetoric to win elections, but it seems both parties have become equally corporatist.
Recommended reading: The Fight for the Soul of the Democratic Party The Enduring Legacy of Henry Wallace's Anti-Fascist, Anti-Racist Politics by John Nichols
Soviet gulags (where millions died) were "a kind of combination of the Hudson Bay company and Tennessee Valley Authority" --Henry Wallace lol Man, the left humiliated itself on the record by what it said about Stalin 1920's-1950's! hahahhahahah.
@wasdom01 CONT...for it, because he broke the law, he betrayed his Country's trust, and he crossed a line no Soldier should ever cross. When on active duty, if you vehemently disagree with something you take it up with your chain of command and declare yourself a conscientious objector if need be. You don't dishonor yourself by committing an act of treason against your Country. Ellsberg's case was different, as his freedom to release the papers was upheld by the SCOTUS under freedom of....CONT.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I just found and wanted to share with you this excellent quote from US Ambassador to Panama Ambler Moss, in 1980, cited in the opening pages of ex US historian Walter LaFeber, (who specialised in US foreign policy) "What we see in Central America today would not be much different if Fidel Castro and the Soviet Union did not exist". This does not deny anything that went on in Cuba. It merely quits using it as the (very false) pretext for US policy in the region.
@Vebinz Those are people that I would classify in the extreme, counter-productive fringe of political and social thought. Amy Goodman and Chomsky are almost anti-American and treasonous in their discourse regarding our Country. I've never seen them offer anything resembling a reasonable alternative to our current situation. They are FAR from the majority of the American people in their views. If you're looking up to these people for reasonable discourse on our politics, you have a big problem.
"bills of credit are illegal according to Article 1 Sec 8 and 10" Actually exactly the opposite is true. One of the enumerated powers in section 8 is that the us congress can borrow money on the credit of the US and Knox v Lee ruled that this clause permitted Congress to emit bills and make them legal tender in satisfaction of debts. Section 10 says that *the states* cannot emit bills of credit.
@wasdom01 CONT...the press grounds. I disagree with the decision, but then again I'm not a Supreme Court Justice. If it had been up to me, Ellsberg would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for doing what he did. Having said that, I'll also say that I am glad he released the Pentagon Papers. Cognitive dissonance can be a perplexing thing, my friend, and I'm not really having an easy time dealing with it.
@wasdom01 I agree, but the actions of the people we have been discussing are so insidious and so harmful to the Country that I really can't think of a more suitable way to describe them and refer to them. Assange, for instance, engaged in an activity akin to espionage, just as harmful and deliberate, right up there with people like Aldrich Ames. Would you not say that Ames can be classified as a traitor? IMO, Assange belongs in that category with him.
There were American bankers funding the Nazis, helping them grow their arms supplies that they would eventually use to invade other countries. Prescott Bush comes most notably to mind. Oh, and look at that, two of his descendants became presidents--the lasting legacy of fascism in America.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos this is surely too long, but I'll qualify that: the Cuban revolution WAS a key factor in US foreign policy in Latin America. It is simultaneously true that any time they wanted to crush a country's independence, they killed peasants by conjuring up "the evil commie"which was the language of their power, not that of truth.
@wasdom01 I did say that their discourse seems almost treasonous to me. I didn't categorically state that they are traitors. There's a difference, and I can say the same about people like Glen Beck and Limbaugh, whose discourse definitely sounds treasonous. Once you start ranting and railing against our institutions and our laws with the sole purpose of agitating and instigating anarchy by using extreme language, you do become somewhat of an anti-American traitor in my book.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Well, we came this close to nuclear war in October of 1962, and I don't know how you can call that a farce, but oh well. The communist threat was no lie, my friend. A portion of my family is Cuban, and I know what communism is. It is very real. And yes, the U.S. had to resort to rather unsavory tactics in order to contain communism in the western hemisphere, and I say good for us. Somebody had to do it, or else, at least Chile and Nicaragua would be communist today.
@bookhound63 No, thats not in any way correct. Fascism is collaboration of private corporations and government to form unaccountable tyranny. That is the U.S model, in fact most countries in the world are to some degree fascist. Which is terrible and creates widespread poverty, disenfranchisement and corruption. Socialism and Marxism have many more logical and realistic approaches to solving our current world economic crisis. Governments can cut spending, and increase standard of living.
@armyveteran101st I could be wrong but my understanding is that "progressive" is a synonym of "left wing". Also, I disagree no-one was in favour of the Cold War. Having a big official "bad guy" enemy was perfect propaganda for the Soviet Union and the United States as a cloak for justifying their actions against the catch-all explain-everything "threat".
@armyveteran101st(For the farcical side,I refer to one of my favourite films"Dr. Strangelove).As I mentioned there were real things such as Soviet and US expansionism.There were also more lies than warheads on both sides.My grandad first worked in,then exiled himself and denounced Hungary's version of Stalin's trials.Good friends were tortured by criminals because of the lie that Allende was going to turn Chile into"another Cuba".
@armyveteran101st And I know that I'm engaging in somewhat of a contradiction here, but that only goes to show how difficult the issue is, and how it can engender very mixed feelings. People can only go so far in their disloyal behaviors and actions against the Country, until they start crossing the very thin lines that separate disagreement and dissension from outright harmful and treacherous behavior.
@wasdom01 Let me talk about mixed feelings again. This issue is difficult for me due to my military formation and mindset, which hold operational security and protection of sensitive intel in the highest regard. Let me put it this way: I'm not entirely sorry about the young Army PFC leaking all this sensitive intel, because I think more good than bad will come of it. However, I think he actually committed an act of treason, and needs to be prosecuted accordingly and without mercy....CONT.
@boots920 actually nazi comes from the way you pronounce "national" in german (only in latin "-tion" a t is pronounced as "ts"/"z" in german, so you have to change the spelling in the abbrevation)
@wasdom01 There are not that many ways to define a country's interests, but the U.S. and Australia share the same interests in many ways. in this instance, I think it's safe to define them as a repudiation of the Taliban and al-Qaeda and the medieval mindset they embrace. I think a vast majority of Australians and Americans of good intent would agree, don't you? Regarding Chomsky, one carefully qualified remark doesn't erase the often-stated disgust he feels for the American system.
@wasdom01 I don't agree with it, but it has been precedent and pretty much law ever since. I don't agree because it makes it possible for sensitive information to fall on the wrong hands, therefore making it easier for our enemies to cause us harm. I'm all for freedom of the press, but I've always said that freedom and personal responsibility go hand in hand. Doesn't a journalist have a civic obligation to act in the best interests of his/her country at all times, just like any other citizen?
@armyveteran101st Hi.As I understand it US foreign policy(like that of other countries)indeed always has a reason:to protect US interests.I won't say the Soviet/US threat were never'real'.IN ADDITION to whatever reality(I cited the missile crisis),the "threat" was often used rhetorically.Students and trade unionists, young people wanting to improve their societies were killed and they weren't the Soviet army.Mas bien tengo amigos que sufrieron las dictaduras de los 70/80.Un gusto tambien!
why not base the Wallace Global Fund on wallace's post-korean war attitudes, after he discovered he was being used and denounced stalin? it took a lot of courage for him to leave the progressive party and put the final nail in the coffin of organized old left stalinism, which i think is his true lasting legacy
I think you're deluded. Yes, he was right to denounce Stalin. It doesn't take much to be a progressive and denounce Stalin. At least he had the balls to also denounce the fascistic attitudes of the American elite. Overall though, you sound like a right-wing zealot who just doesn't get what it means to stand up for human rights.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos But the biggest lie of all is that there were "right wing" or "left wing" crimes and unsavoury this, but lesser-of-evils that. The US had the same vision for Latin America, before, during, and after the existence of the Soviet Union. The only thing that changed were the labels in its rhetoric. Similarly, Putin is as against independence for say, Chechnia or Georgia as any of his Soviet predecessors ever was.
@RuflessRecords I guess all of his ideas of racial and gender equality, fears of people hurting the environment and ideas of creating an agreeable foreign policy background was bad for America too. Not to mention he was an agricultural revolutionary that completely redesigned how Americans, and more specifically Iowans, farm and operate. Also, he was highly trusted by FDR, heading foreign policy committees and discussions. Yup, what an ass. (sarcasm).
@wasdom01 Nothing extreme about it. I'm just going by what I've heard them say over the years and the positions I've seen them adopt. I remember very well when Goodman used to demonize Bill Clinton back in the 90's because he was a centrist President, as centrist as they come. To me, Goodman's attitude back then was extreme, and it still seems extreme today. Chomsky is even worse. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
@wasdom01 That may be so, but his unauthorized release of information that can only inflame the situation is irresponsible to say the least, not to mention contrary to U.S. law. And while he's not an American, he's still acting deliberately to hamper the anti-Taliban efforts his country is engaging in along with mine. If you take sides with your country's enemy by tilting public opinion in his favor through your efforts, you're not exactly acting in your country's best interests, are you?
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I'll admit that my country did unsavory things over the years, but there was always a good reason. And you can delude yourself all you want into thinking that the Soviet threat wasn't real. Me imagino que eres un rojillo mas alla en Honduras. Ni me vas a convencer, ni yo te voy a convencer a ti. Yo se quien gano y quien perdio, y eso es mas que satisfactorio. Gusto en dialogar contigo.
@armyveteran101st That the US and USSR threatened each other,notably in the Cuban missile crisis, etc.was no figment of the imagination.(there certainly was an element of farce!).However,on the US side(the one I know best)the lie of the"threat" of "communism"was used to stifle students,trade unions,political dissent and so on, from Argentina to Guatemala, and the Soviet Union was a figurative bogeyman in these cases.Argentina even traded with the USSR while supposedly in a war on "communism".
First of all, thank you for serving and fighting for(supposedly) American's right of free speech, like the guy you told to "put a sock in it".Being a fighter....why don't you fight for the common good now?
@wasdom01 One thing is to disagree with those who have differing but reasonable points of view, and quite another is to point out un-American behavior without reserve. I get that you object to my use of the term "treason". All I am saying is that, IMO, those who engage in un-American attitudes and behavior come close to meeting the definition of the term, and to making themselves deserving of it. However, that is just my opinion, and I apologize for not issuing that disclaimer from the outset.
@armyveteran101st Finally, sorry but I don't buy Americans being "centrists" or that "centrism" is good. There are issues where one needs to take a stand that is not "centrist". How are Americans centrists on war, abortion, immigrations, etc...? Besides, and again, it doesn't matter what the majority think. Once most Americans had no problem with segregation, but that didn't make it right.
@wasdom01 I can't help but agree with you. However, you're considering as a given that part of what my country thinks it has to do in Afghanistan is kill civilians, and you couldn't be more wrong. That was never part of our intent there, naturally. The problem is that we're operating in a country where a wide swath of the population is your friend during the day and your mortal enemy at night, be that because of Taliban intimidation or what have you. That's not a justification. It is a fact.
@armyveteran101st You're making too many assumptions here. I'm thinking that you're transfering your own persona onto others, classifying everyone as "extremist" because you yourself are so far off. Name a single thing that Chomsky or Goodman have ever said that makes them "anti-American"? Further, you have an unhealthy obsession and over-reliance on the "majority". I repeat to you for the third time: the majority does not make something right.
Henry A. Wallace. My heart leaps @ a Soulmate.
Wow. What an impressive man. His words are as valid today as they were then. Excellent.
Imagine how the world might be different now had Henry A. Wallace won the Presidency.
Excellent historical review, words that should not be forgotten, unfortunatly they reflected, materialised and remain strongly in our social/political present status.
These middle east parasitical interests just keep helping the weekening of its ideological hosts.
wonderfully informative segment. thx!
My opinion of Harry Truman has been receding for some time now and this video has been very illuminating. Once again The Real News is bringing important information to the people. Thanks.
Yes this is a MESSAGE to both Obama and Biden!!
Bellissimo, thanks for this. I'm proud to be a RN donor.
What a grandfather what a guy.
Henry Wallace makes me proud to be an Iowan and an American. In the past, there was a fairly strong strain of Progressivism in states such as Iowa and Wisconsin. These states still are very moderate, but the times have changed. For some reason, the Democrat party as a whole no longer promotes the narrative of Progressivism. Democrat politicians still use it as rhetoric to win elections, but it seems both parties have become equally corporatist.
9:31 Wallace becomes editor of The New Republic, 10:10 1944 NYT article "The Danger of American Fascism"
this guy speaks the truth around 8:00 - 9:00
9:50 Wow this is so true today in america.
Recommended reading: The Fight for the Soul of the Democratic Party The Enduring Legacy of Henry Wallace's Anti-Fascist, Anti-Racist Politics by John Nichols
Wallace had it right
But didn't Wallace do a 180 on foreing policy and support the Korean War?
Soviet gulags (where millions died) were "a kind of combination of the Hudson Bay company and Tennessee Valley Authority"
--Henry Wallace
lol
Man, the left humiliated itself on the record by what it said about Stalin 1920's-1950's! hahahhahahah.
@wasdom01 CONT...for it, because he broke the law, he betrayed his Country's trust, and he crossed a line no Soldier should ever cross. When on active duty, if you vehemently disagree with something you take it up with your chain of command and declare yourself a conscientious objector if need be. You don't dishonor yourself by committing an act of treason against your Country. Ellsberg's case was different, as his freedom to release the papers was upheld by the SCOTUS under freedom of....CONT.
I hear J.C.Penny has a sale on White sheets and are not charging for eye holes."The mind is a terrible thing to waste".
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I just found and wanted to share with you this excellent quote from US Ambassador to Panama Ambler Moss, in 1980, cited in the opening pages of ex US historian Walter LaFeber, (who specialised in US foreign policy) "What we see in Central America today would not be much different if Fidel Castro and the Soviet Union did not exist".
This does not deny anything that went on in Cuba. It merely quits using it as the (very false) pretext for US policy in the region.
@Vebinz Those are people that I would classify in the extreme, counter-productive fringe of political and social thought. Amy Goodman and Chomsky are almost anti-American and treasonous in their discourse regarding our Country. I've never seen them offer anything resembling a reasonable alternative to our current situation. They are FAR from the majority of the American people in their views. If you're looking up to these people for reasonable discourse on our politics, you have a big problem.
Where can I get copies of Glen Taylor's cowboy records?
"bills of credit are illegal according to Article 1 Sec 8 and 10"
Actually exactly the opposite is true. One of the enumerated powers in section 8 is that the us congress can borrow money on the credit of the US and Knox v Lee ruled that this clause permitted Congress to emit bills and make them legal tender in satisfaction of debts.
Section 10 says that *the states* cannot emit bills of credit.
Feels like shit. Just wants Wallace back
@wasdom01 CONT...the press grounds. I disagree with the decision, but then again I'm not a Supreme Court Justice. If it had been up to me, Ellsberg would have been prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for doing what he did. Having said that, I'll also say that I am glad he released the Pentagon Papers. Cognitive dissonance can be a perplexing thing, my friend, and I'm not really having an easy time dealing with it.
@wasdom01 I agree, but the actions of the people we have been discussing are so insidious and so harmful to the Country that I really can't think of a more suitable way to describe them and refer to them. Assange, for instance, engaged in an activity akin to espionage, just as harmful and deliberate, right up there with people like Aldrich Ames. Would you not say that Ames can be classified as a traitor? IMO, Assange belongs in that category with him.
@youngbuck189 then why was there a nazi-soviet pact and never a nazi-US or nazi-british pact?
There were American bankers funding the Nazis, helping them grow their arms supplies that they would eventually use to invade other countries. Prescott Bush comes most notably to mind. Oh, and look at that, two of his descendants became presidents--the lasting legacy of fascism in America.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos this is surely too long, but I'll qualify that: the Cuban revolution WAS a key factor in US foreign policy in Latin America. It is simultaneously true that any time they wanted to crush a country's independence, they killed peasants by conjuring up "the evil commie"which was the language of their power, not that of truth.
@wasdom01 I did say that their discourse seems almost treasonous to me. I didn't categorically state that they are traitors. There's a difference, and I can say the same about people like Glen Beck and Limbaugh, whose discourse definitely sounds treasonous. Once you start ranting and railing against our institutions and our laws with the sole purpose of agitating and instigating anarchy by using extreme language, you do become somewhat of an anti-American traitor in my book.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos Well, we came this close to nuclear war in October of 1962, and I don't know how you can call that a farce, but oh well. The communist threat was no lie, my friend. A portion of my family is Cuban, and I know what communism is. It is very real. And yes, the U.S. had to resort to rather unsavory tactics in order to contain communism in the western hemisphere, and I say good for us. Somebody had to do it, or else, at least Chile and Nicaragua would be communist today.
@bookhound63 No, thats not in any way correct. Fascism is collaboration of private corporations and government to form unaccountable tyranny. That is the U.S model, in fact most countries in the world are to some degree fascist. Which is terrible and creates widespread poverty, disenfranchisement and corruption. Socialism and Marxism have many more logical and realistic approaches to solving our current world economic crisis. Governments can cut spending, and increase standard of living.
@armyveteran101st I could be wrong but my understanding is that "progressive" is a synonym of "left wing". Also, I disagree no-one was in favour of the Cold War. Having a big official "bad guy" enemy was perfect propaganda for the Soviet Union and the United States as a cloak for justifying their actions against the catch-all explain-everything "threat".
@armyveteran101st(For the farcical side,I refer to one of my favourite films"Dr. Strangelove).As I mentioned there were real things such as Soviet and US expansionism.There were also more lies than warheads on both sides.My grandad first worked in,then exiled himself and denounced Hungary's version of Stalin's trials.Good friends were tortured by criminals because of the lie that Allende was going to turn Chile into"another Cuba".
@armyveteran101st And I know that I'm engaging in somewhat of a contradiction here, but that only goes to show how difficult the issue is, and how it can engender very mixed feelings. People can only go so far in their disloyal behaviors and actions against the Country, until they start crossing the very thin lines that separate disagreement and dissension from outright harmful and treacherous behavior.
@wasdom01 Let me talk about mixed feelings again. This issue is difficult for me due to my military formation and mindset, which hold operational security and protection of sensitive intel in the highest regard. Let me put it this way: I'm not entirely sorry about the young Army PFC leaking all this sensitive intel, because I think more good than bad will come of it. However, I think he actually committed an act of treason, and needs to be prosecuted accordingly and without mercy....CONT.
@boots920 actually nazi comes from the way you pronounce "national" in german (only in latin "-tion" a t is pronounced as "ts"/"z" in german, so you have to change the spelling in the abbrevation)
@wasdom01 There are not that many ways to define a country's interests, but the U.S. and Australia share the same interests in many ways. in this instance, I think it's safe to define them as a repudiation of the Taliban and al-Qaeda and the medieval mindset they embrace. I think a vast majority of Australians and Americans of good intent would agree, don't you? Regarding Chomsky, one carefully qualified remark doesn't erase the often-stated disgust he feels for the American system.
@wasdom01 I don't agree with it, but it has been precedent and pretty much law ever since. I don't agree because it makes it possible for sensitive information to fall on the wrong hands, therefore making it easier for our enemies to cause us harm. I'm all for freedom of the press, but I've always said that freedom and personal responsibility go hand in hand. Doesn't a journalist have a civic obligation to act in the best interests of his/her country at all times, just like any other citizen?
@boots920 Hang on, if he was paid to type he would earn MORE by responding, surely?
@armyveteran101st Hi.As I understand it US foreign policy(like that of other countries)indeed always has a reason:to protect US interests.I won't say the Soviet/US threat were never'real'.IN ADDITION to whatever reality(I cited the missile crisis),the "threat" was often used rhetorically.Students and trade unionists, young people wanting to improve their societies were killed and they weren't the Soviet army.Mas bien tengo amigos que sufrieron las dictaduras de los 70/80.Un gusto tambien!
why not base the Wallace Global Fund on wallace's post-korean war attitudes, after he discovered he was being used and denounced stalin? it took a lot of courage for him to leave the progressive party and put the final nail in the coffin of organized old left stalinism, which i think is his true lasting legacy
I think you're deluded. Yes, he was right to denounce Stalin. It doesn't take much to be a progressive and denounce Stalin. At least he had the balls to also denounce the fascistic attitudes of the American elite. Overall though, you sound like a right-wing zealot who just doesn't get what it means to stand up for human rights.
@NicosNicosNicosNicos But the biggest lie of all is that there were "right wing" or "left wing" crimes and unsavoury this, but lesser-of-evils that.
The US had the same vision for Latin America, before, during, and after the existence of the Soviet Union. The only thing that changed were the labels in its rhetoric. Similarly, Putin is as against independence for say, Chechnia or Georgia as any of his Soviet predecessors ever was.
@RuflessRecords I guess all of his ideas of racial and gender equality, fears of people hurting the environment and ideas of creating an agreeable foreign policy background was bad for America too. Not to mention he was an agricultural revolutionary that completely redesigned how Americans, and more specifically Iowans, farm and operate. Also, he was highly trusted by FDR, heading foreign policy committees and discussions. Yup, what an ass. (sarcasm).
@wasdom01 Nothing extreme about it. I'm just going by what I've heard them say over the years and the positions I've seen them adopt. I remember very well when Goodman used to demonize Bill Clinton back in the 90's because he was a centrist President, as centrist as they come. To me, Goodman's attitude back then was extreme, and it still seems extreme today. Chomsky is even worse. We're going to have to agree to disagree on this one.
@wasdom01 That may be so, but his unauthorized release of information that can only inflame the situation is irresponsible to say the least, not to mention contrary to U.S. law. And while he's not an American, he's still acting deliberately to hamper the anti-Taliban efforts his country is engaging in along with mine. If you take sides with your country's enemy by tilting public opinion in his favor through your efforts, you're not exactly acting in your country's best interests, are you?
@NicosNicosNicosNicos I'll admit that my country did unsavory things over the years, but there was always a good reason. And you can delude yourself all you want into thinking that the Soviet threat wasn't real. Me imagino que eres un rojillo mas alla en Honduras. Ni me vas a convencer, ni yo te voy a convencer a ti. Yo se quien gano y quien perdio, y eso es mas que satisfactorio. Gusto en dialogar contigo.
@boots920 You are joking here, right??
@armyveteran101st That the US and USSR threatened each other,notably in the Cuban missile crisis, etc.was no figment of the imagination.(there certainly was an element of farce!).However,on the US side(the one I know best)the lie of the"threat" of "communism"was used to stifle students,trade unions,political dissent and so on, from Argentina to Guatemala, and the Soviet Union was a figurative bogeyman in these cases.Argentina even traded with the USSR while supposedly in a war on "communism".
First of all, thank you for serving and fighting for(supposedly) American's right of free speech, like the guy you told to "put a sock in it".Being a fighter....why don't you fight for the common good now?
@wasdom01 One thing is to disagree with those who have differing but reasonable points of view, and quite another is to point out un-American behavior without reserve. I get that you object to my use of the term "treason". All I am saying is that, IMO, those who engage in un-American attitudes and behavior come close to meeting the definition of the term, and to making themselves deserving of it. However, that is just my opinion, and I apologize for not issuing that disclaimer from the outset.
@themeaningoflife38 I'd pay money to punch Dulles in the face if he was alive.
@armyveteran101st
Finally, sorry but I don't buy Americans being "centrists" or that "centrism" is good. There are issues where one needs to take a stand that is not "centrist".
How are Americans centrists on war, abortion, immigrations, etc...?
Besides, and again, it doesn't matter what the majority think. Once most Americans had no problem with segregation, but that didn't make it right.
@wasdom01 I can't help but agree with you. However, you're considering as a given that part of what my country thinks it has to do in Afghanistan is kill civilians, and you couldn't be more wrong. That was never part of our intent there, naturally. The problem is that we're operating in a country where a wide swath of the population is your friend during the day and your mortal enemy at night, be that because of Taliban intimidation or what have you. That's not a justification. It is a fact.
@jp70117 Haha! :) I still think it needs a newsdancer (/watch?v=UW9jcKsLSfQ) to go with it.
@armyveteran101st
You're making too many assumptions here. I'm thinking that you're transfering your own persona onto others, classifying everyone as "extremist" because you yourself are so far off.
Name a single thing that Chomsky or Goodman have ever said that makes them "anti-American"?
Further, you have an unhealthy obsession and over-reliance on the "majority". I repeat to you for the third time: the majority does not make something right.