Don't forget Belichick's first 3 N E Patriots Rings, Bill "The Tuna" Parcells built that team. Except for Brady, that was a Parcells built team. Lawrence Taylor, Bill Parcells and Tom Brady made Bill Belichick. His Career Head Coaching Record w/out L.T., Parcells and Brady 79-87.
Giving credit to parcells for the patriots 5 years later means belichick gets credit for building the entire ravens front office and part of the roster. You cant cherry pick.
Belichick's CAREER Head Coaching w/out a Tom Brady 79-87. Not even a .500 average Head Coach. So overrated who is finally getting exposed. Numbers don't lie!!
Bill Walsh also GM picked Rodney Lott in 1st round & Eric Wright before the SB run. Montana & Rice he called GMs nobody wanted Montana early. Walsh revolutionize the offense in the NFL had top or top 5 O consistent. Belichek had bottom 10 defenses & Brady carried the offense plus extra millions in cap space.
It's Called The Lombardi Trophy for a reason. 1 total playoff loss. Zero losing seasons. 5 titles in 7 years. one of those non-title years, he went 11-2-1. He even had a winning season with the Redskins, their first since 1955.
I love how this is only brought up for Bill Belichick. He inherited a team from Bill Parcells (isn't that how taking over for a team with a bad record works). He hasn't won without Brady (almost like you need talented players who understand your system to win). Nobody mentions Bill Walsh 8-24 record with Montana on the team. Nobody brings up the first 2 years or how Jimmy Johnson was 8-24 before the triplets. I understand not liking a coach or a team but damn!!!🤣🤣🤣
@@billjohnson1111 Belichick frequently expressed frustration with Bledsoe's turnovers and low completion percentage with the football. He was a talented player, but not a great fit for a team looking to redefine it's culture with a more disciplined ball control offense.
@@billjohnson1111 Could be. Although coaching focuses on getting the most out of a player within the scheme based on what they do well. Since Bledsoe had his 3rd best completion percentage and least interceptions in his first year under Belichick, maybe that was the limit of his capabilities in that system. Talent doesn't equate to fit. No reason to lose your job trying to fit a square peg into a round hole when you can just use a round peg.
True. Also look at Andy Reid. Granted Andy has only now started to get chips because he has Patrick LeBron Jordan Serena Mahomes, but he always manged to get stuff done. From Donovan McNabb in Philly to Alex Smith in KC, he's shown he can coach his ass off.
Y’all 2-8 lmao I’m not a Charger fan but I can guarantee you nobody is afraid of the patriots being on there schedule anymore Brady is gone , Bill is overrated and will be fired after this season
He is a great coach, but he needed Brady. The thing is happening now with Andy Reid. He was always great coach but now wins championships because he has an elite quarterback. Mike Shanahan won two titles with Elway, but without him he only won additional AFC West title without him. The only coaches that has won multiple Championships with different quarterbacks are George Seifert and Joe Gibbs. And George had two back to back Hall of Fame quarterbacks playing for him. When he coached the Panthers he didn’t have an elite quarterback and struggled.
Never has never won a Super Bowl without a top defense and Belichick is the best defensive coach ever. He established the 3/4 as the premier defense in the nfl when when everyone else was stuck in the archaic 4-3 defense. He also established the 21 offense making the slot receiver a huge part of the game. I hate the patriots (Broncos fan) but if you can’t see that bill is the best football coach in the nfl today and arguably ever then you’re a casual fanboy who doesn’t know football. Brady went to a weak conference with a primed team with a top defense. The patriots are rebuilding after losing the goat. Casuals…
The Steelers established the 3-4. They didn't invent it, but they made it viable in the late 70s- early 80s. Then they took it to new heights in the 90s. Then they took it to even greater heights in the 2000s.
@@kimblandino the Steelers are the original 3-4 team, but it wasn’t until the early 2000s that the majority of the nfl switched to 3/4 because of the success of Belichicks defense. It’s now a hybrid defense that takes away the middle of the field and teams are following suit. I hate the Patriots. I’m a Broncos fan. But, Bill is the best coach in nfl history. Bill walsh did establish the west coast offense but didn’t know defense. He also had Joe Montana, Steve young, Jerry rice, Ronnie etc. Also, the league wasn’t as competitive back then. They had 3 good teams. Vince Lombardi was a great motivator but he couldn’t dissect a team and game plan like bill. Tom Landry also coached during a time with no free agency and 3 good teams. George Halas is the quintessential example of coaching in a league with little competition. Don Shula, chuck noll, Joe Gibbs, bill parcells, and Paul brown were all fine coaches but not better then Belichick. Bill Parcells knew very early in his coaching career that your success as a coach hinges on the coaching team around you and he always had Bill at his side. Frankly, he was terrified of Belichick going anywhere else. Bill is the 🐐
Brady winning one right away hurt Bill.Bill is lucky the Bucs had revolving players due to injury.Antonio Brown melting down and Giselle leaving.It’s a possible 2nd ring there.Brady came close to going back to the Championship game year 2 but everything started imploding
They were the best team in the NFL in 2021 im still mad about that Saints gm I call it “Knee gate”took out Godwin and Fornette with cheap shots that is when the whole downfall started set the domino for AB meltdown cause Godwin was out then Wirfs got injured and they still a blown defensive call at the end of Rams game from maybe winning it all
You’re a casual. Brady went to a Bucs team in a weak conference that was primed to win. They had a top defense. Meanwhile, the Patriots lost an all-time qb with an aging team that’s been winning for years. Belichick is the best in the world and in history of football. The guy is the greatest defensive coach of all-time and changed the game by utilizing a 3 wideout set at a primary offense. He is the godfather of the slot receiver and established the 3-4 defense as the premier defense in the league. He might not be the best gm but he’s the best coach. And I hate the patriots. I’m a broncos fan.
@@Vjl5280 The Saints we’re one of the best teams in NFL for years when Brady went to the NFC south and so we’re the Packers with ARodgers the Bucs were not loaded they were 7-9 on a 12 year playoff drought Bucs defense was 29th in PTs against 15th in yards in 2019 it was bad it is just revisionist history to hate and discredit Brady nobody had the Bucs doing anything before the season started it was MJ on Wizards he was washed up and they were huge underdogs in all 3 games in the playoffs
@@Vjl5280 Imagine if the Patriots won the super bowl in 2020 and were great again the next season while Brady struggled and did nothing Bill would be getting praised beyond belief and Bradys legacy would be trashed saying it was all Belichick but because Brady won it’s nothing but excuses why he succeed and nothing but excuses why Bill is losing its Brady hate delusion syndrome at its finest
dungy got the buccaneers to the playoffs multiple times, went to an nfc championship game in 1999 where they got screwed on the bert emmanuel non catch which was a catch. Tampa won the superbowl with gruden in 2002 with the players especially on defense that Dungy set up. He and peyton went to the playoffs every year and eventually got a ring in 2006. Put dungy and brady together. oh it maybe more than bill. Same with andy reid with brady or even pete carroll.
Bill looks like an ordinary coach since Tom left. And now all the drafts during and after Tom's time is now under a microscope which the media has finally caught on how bad they were. As of right now, Bill doesn't have any cornerstone/blue chip draft picks on the roster.
I mean folks, where's the lie? You can win with a less than stellar QB (hello Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon 👋🏽) but to have sustained success for as long as the Pats did, you need a great QB. The Hoodie needed Brady more than Brady needed him and the struggle that he's had since Tom left shows that. This is gonna be a rough season for New England because all the teams in his division have surpassed them and all are gonna be better than them.
He's mad as hell because he couldn't make an easy pick that would have sealed a undefeated season. So he blames Belichick instead of owning his own F up.
@@dacryptkeeper6836well, it's hard to address something that is pure speculation and isnt grounded in any evidence. If he lost on purpose, why was the game close? Didnt brady fumble away the game with a chance to win? Stop with the conspiracy crap. Its dumb.
@@whitewhale9012 I would suggest you go back and watch the sideline videos of every Super Bowl that the Patriots played in. In ALL other games, you will see Belichick getting down and coaching the players. BUT, in Super Bowl LII, all he does is walk around with his arms crossed; giving Brady a dirty look every time he led the offense downfield and scored. This fact was pointed out by an Eagles fan, of all things! YOU might turn a blind eye to the obvious, but that's on YOU!!!
Did Chuck win without Terry? Did Bill win without Joe? Did Tom win without Roger? Did Vince win without Bart? Did Mike win without John? Just saying. And by win I mean titles, not almost titles. If that's the metric, Joe Gibbs is the goat.
Bellicheck has 8 rings 6 with the Patriots and 2 with the NY Giants lol seriously though you people act like he's only ever coached for the Patriots!! Also what happens in this conversation if Bill goes on to win one with Mac Jones too ?????
I’m glad I’m not the only one who missed that. Ass Samuel was known as the finisher, INT in the last 2 mins to seal the deal and he missed the biggest INT of his life off Special Ed Manning. 19-0 perfect season and NFL immortality but naw…
Belichik is the GOAT. 6 rings=scoreboard. Vince Lombardi wouldn’t have been the coach he was without his players. So Brady may be a big part of his GOAT status but every coach will tell you its the players that makes them look good or bad.
When Lombardi took over the packers were the worst team in football and the roster wasnt overhauled. He instantly coached up a team from the cellar to champions.
Interesting...i think bill bellichecks good to great defenses and Tom Brady's offensive coordinators, especially Josh McDaniel MADE Tom successful...if Tom gets drafted by anyone else we're not talking Tom..😁✌️
💯 💯 Not the goat in my book either I gotta be honest 🤷♂ Win anything without Brady and then we can revisit the conversation but he is going on 4 straight years missing the playoffs without Brady. Not one playoff win without Brady either 🧐 As much as I hate 49ers fans Walsh to me is the goat 🐐
Literally made the playoffs last year. And Walsh was 8-24 his first two years with Joe Montana on the team. And never won a Super Bowl without Joe Montana.
2020 the Patriots had the most holdouts in the league because of COVID. Made the playoffs with a rookie quarterback. Probably should have got surgery last year instead of playing on a high ankle injury.
Everyone, except Robert Kraft and Belichick zealots, know he is a great coach - but his coaching immortality is as a result of and due to Tom Brady. The numbers without Tom, alone prove it. His "development" of Mac Jones, and his offensive "offensive" coordinator decision from last year are evidence. Let's add now, with no Tom, you can't get free agents to come there on the cheap to win a Chip - because there is no Tom. And last but not least, not only was 40+ year old Tom in the top 10 for QG ratings AFTER he left Bill for 3 years - HE WON A GD SUPERBOWL WITHOUT HIM. The reverence and awe New England fans still have for the arrogance and short- sighted decisions Bill perpetually makes - with Tom Brady clutching another ring - after Bill PUSHED him out - has no bearing on a rational discussion with Pat's fans. Bill is the greatest coach - BECAUSE OF Tom Brady. If you preface his title with that recognition, it can be allowed. If not, then don't say it.
Assante is forgotten. His career after football is to be the male Joy Behar of football. Whine away. 6 rings. Idiot. Jim Rome? He secretly has a special "Keith Olbermann Room" in his basement.
Bill is the most overrated head coach I’ve seen in my time of watching the NFL, the patriots have been a disaster since Brady left and don’t give me that bs that they made the playoffs, they lost by 20 or something against a fraudulent Bills team that just lost by 17 at home in the divisional round to cincy, also the patriots are 2-8, Asante samaul saying “are u crazy” isnt a reach
Asante Samuels has never ever said anything good about Bill… So who cares, But I will say Bill is Great but he does have flaws… Is Bill past his prime , Yesssssss
Don't forget Belichick's first 3 N E Patriots Rings, Bill "The Tuna" Parcells built that team. Except for Brady, that was a Parcells built team. Lawrence Taylor, Bill Parcells and Tom Brady made Bill Belichick. His Career Head Coaching Record w/out L.T., Parcells and Brady 79-87.
Giving credit to parcells for the patriots 5 years later means belichick gets credit for building the entire ravens front office and part of the roster.
You cant cherry pick.
This aged well. Amen, Asante
This is PRIME Rome got damn!! 🔥
Belichick's CAREER Head Coaching w/out a Tom Brady 79-87. Not even a .500 average Head Coach. So overrated who is finally getting exposed. Numbers don't lie!!
Who drafted and was his teacher
You m*ron. His career is with Tom Brady.
@@ctu5086no he was HC of the browns and had a season without Brady 🤡🤡🤡🤡
Lmao
Bill Walsh also GM picked Rodney Lott in 1st round & Eric Wright before the SB run. Montana & Rice he called GMs nobody wanted Montana early. Walsh revolutionize the offense in the NFL had top or top 5 O consistent. Belichek had bottom 10 defenses & Brady carried the offense plus extra millions in cap space.
Did you just claim the patriots had a bunch of bottom 10 defenses?
Do you know how numbers work?
Glad to see my guy Jim Rome back 😂😂😂
Grew up on Rome he was the guy that held no punches.
It's Called The Lombardi Trophy for a reason.
1 total playoff loss.
Zero losing seasons.
5 titles in 7 years.
one of those non-title years, he went 11-2-1.
He even had a winning season with the Redskins, their first since 1955.
Correct. Lombardi took the worst team in football and turned it into a dynasty with very little roster turnover.
Against plumbers
@@terminalray1300 With plumbers.
One could easily argue that's when coaching matters most.
I love how this is only brought up for Bill Belichick. He inherited a team from Bill Parcells (isn't that how taking over for a team with a bad record works). He hasn't won without Brady (almost like you need talented players who understand your system to win).
Nobody mentions Bill Walsh 8-24 record with Montana on the team. Nobody brings up the first 2 years or how Jimmy Johnson was 8-24 before the triplets.
I understand not liking a coach or a team but damn!!!🤣🤣🤣
Before Brady he had Drew Bledsoe (a pro bowl QB) and still didn’t have a good record
@@billjohnson1111 Belichick frequently expressed frustration with Bledsoe's turnovers and low completion percentage with the football.
He was a talented player, but not a great fit for a team looking to redefine it's culture with a more disciplined ball control offense.
@@indarkestknight9778 in other words: Belichick wasn’t a good enough coach to adapt his scheme to fit the talent that he had
@@billjohnson1111 Could be. Although coaching focuses on getting the most out of a player within the scheme based on what they do well. Since Bledsoe had his 3rd best completion percentage and least interceptions in his first year under Belichick, maybe that was the limit of his capabilities in that system.
Talent doesn't equate to fit. No reason to lose your job trying to fit a square peg into a round hole when you can just use a round peg.
Look at Tomlin's Record without Big Ben vs Belichick. Tomlin has never had a losing record.
True. Also look at Andy Reid. Granted Andy has only now started to get chips because he has Patrick LeBron Jordan Serena Mahomes, but he always manged to get stuff done. From Donovan McNabb in Philly to Alex Smith in KC, he's shown he can coach his ass off.
Careful, Asante. Especially when you’ve got a son in the league and same conference. Week 13, Chargers v. Pats
Y’all 2-8 lmao I’m not a Charger fan but I can guarantee you nobody is afraid of the patriots being on there schedule anymore Brady is gone , Bill is overrated and will be fired after this season
He is a great coach, but he needed Brady. The thing is happening now with Andy Reid. He was always great coach but now wins championships because he has an elite quarterback. Mike Shanahan won two titles with Elway, but without him he only won additional AFC West title without him. The only coaches that has won multiple Championships with different quarterbacks are George Seifert and Joe Gibbs. And George had two back to back Hall of Fame quarterbacks playing for him. When he coached the Panthers he didn’t have an elite quarterback and struggled.
Parcells won with Simms and Hostettler.
he is just a ok coach. Just look at the record with Brady vs. without. it's clear.
This is a classic rome take!
Never has never won a Super Bowl without a top defense and Belichick is the best defensive coach ever. He established the 3/4 as the premier defense in the nfl when when everyone else was stuck in the archaic 4-3 defense. He also established the 21 offense making the slot receiver a huge part of the game. I hate the patriots (Broncos fan) but if you can’t see that bill is the best football coach in the nfl today and arguably ever then you’re a casual fanboy who doesn’t know football. Brady went to a weak conference with a primed team with a top defense. The patriots are rebuilding after losing the goat. Casuals…
It’s weird that his defensive coordinators, got head coach jobs and were awful
I find in large part that people who call people casuals are in fact casuals themselves.
@@jdocean1 who’s a better football coach?! He’s definitely the best defensive mind in football history.
The Steelers established the 3-4. They didn't invent it, but they made it viable in the late 70s- early 80s.
Then they took it to new heights in the 90s.
Then they took it to even greater heights in the 2000s.
@@kimblandino the Steelers are the original 3-4 team, but it wasn’t until the early 2000s that the majority of the nfl switched to 3/4 because of the success of Belichicks defense. It’s now a hybrid defense that takes away the middle of the field and teams are following suit. I hate the Patriots. I’m a Broncos fan. But, Bill is the best coach in nfl history. Bill walsh did establish the west coast offense but didn’t know defense. He also had Joe Montana, Steve young, Jerry rice, Ronnie etc. Also, the league wasn’t as competitive back then. They had 3 good teams. Vince Lombardi was a great motivator but he couldn’t dissect a team and game plan like bill. Tom Landry also coached during a time with no free agency and 3 good teams. George Halas is the quintessential example of coaching in a league with little competition. Don Shula, chuck noll, Joe Gibbs, bill parcells, and Paul brown were all fine coaches but not better then Belichick. Bill Parcells knew very early in his coaching career that your success as a coach hinges on the coaching team around you and he always had Bill at his side. Frankly, he was terrified of Belichick going anywhere else. Bill is the 🐐
Brady winning one right away hurt Bill.Bill is lucky the Bucs had revolving players due to injury.Antonio Brown melting down and Giselle leaving.It’s a possible 2nd ring there.Brady came close to going back to the Championship game year 2 but everything started imploding
They were the best team in the NFL in 2021 im still mad about that Saints gm I call it “Knee gate”took out Godwin and Fornette with cheap shots that is when the whole downfall started set the domino for AB meltdown cause Godwin was out then Wirfs got injured and they still a blown defensive call at the end of Rams game from maybe winning it all
You’re a casual. Brady went to a Bucs team in a weak conference that was primed to win. They had a top defense.
Meanwhile, the Patriots lost an all-time qb with an aging team that’s been winning for years.
Belichick is the best in the world and in history of football.
The guy is the greatest defensive coach of all-time and changed the game by utilizing a 3 wideout set at a primary offense. He is the godfather of the slot receiver and established the 3-4 defense as the premier defense in the league. He might not be the best gm but he’s the best coach. And I hate the patriots. I’m a broncos fan.
@@Vjl5280 The Saints we’re one of the best teams in NFL for years when Brady went to the NFC south and so we’re the Packers with ARodgers the Bucs were not loaded they were 7-9 on a 12 year playoff drought Bucs defense was 29th in PTs against 15th in yards in 2019 it was bad it is just revisionist history to hate and discredit Brady nobody had the Bucs doing anything before the season started it was MJ on Wizards he was washed up and they were huge underdogs in all 3 games in the playoffs
@@Vjl5280 Imagine if the Patriots won the super bowl in 2020 and were great again the next season while Brady struggled and did nothing Bill would be getting praised beyond belief and Bradys legacy would be trashed saying it was all Belichick but because Brady won it’s nothing but excuses why he succeed and nothing but excuses why Bill is losing its Brady hate delusion syndrome at its finest
@@davis2k1234 defense wins championships. The saints and the packers? Really?
Hey, didn't you used to be Jim ("Chris") Rome?
Man Jim Your the GOAT
*you’re
Amen
“The mumbler.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
Tony Dungy was fired from every job he held in the NFL until Peyton Manning stepped onto his field. And even then he struggled.
dungy got the buccaneers to the playoffs multiple times, went to an nfc championship game in 1999 where they got screwed on the bert emmanuel non catch which was a catch. Tampa won the superbowl with gruden in 2002 with the players especially on defense that Dungy set up. He and peyton went to the playoffs every year and eventually got a ring in 2006. Put dungy and brady together. oh it maybe more than bill. Same with andy reid with brady or even pete carroll.
Bill looks like an ordinary coach since Tom left. And now all the drafts during and after Tom's time is now under a microscope which the media has finally caught on how bad they were. As of right now, Bill doesn't have any cornerstone/blue chip draft picks on the roster.
NAW JIM HE GOTTA WIN IT ALL BEFORE HE RETIRE
Done absolutely nothing since Brady bailed.
Andy Reid has been a winner everywhere he has coached - you cannot say the same for Belichick!
I mean folks, where's the lie? You can win with a less than stellar QB (hello Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon 👋🏽) but to have sustained success for as long as the Pats did, you need a great QB. The Hoodie needed Brady more than Brady needed him and the struggle that he's had since Tom left shows that. This is gonna be a rough season for New England because all the teams in his division have surpassed them and all are gonna be better than them.
Belicheck this year... MANUAL BUZZER..aaaaghhhhhhh!!!!🔊
He's mad as hell because he couldn't make an easy pick that would have sealed a undefeated season. So he blames Belichick instead of owning his own F up.
So what happened with the other loss against the Giants? Asante Samuel was not with the Patriots.
What about Belichick throwing Super Bowl LII just because he was pissed off that Kraft wouldn't let him trade Brady and keep Garoppolo?
@@dacryptkeeper6836well, it's hard to address something that is pure speculation and isnt grounded in any evidence.
If he lost on purpose, why was the game close? Didnt brady fumble away the game with a chance to win?
Stop with the conspiracy crap. Its dumb.
@@whitewhale9012 I would suggest you go back and watch the sideline videos of every Super Bowl that the Patriots played in. In ALL other games, you will see Belichick getting down and coaching the players. BUT, in Super Bowl LII, all he does is walk around with his arms crossed; giving Brady a dirty look every time he led the offense downfield and scored. This fact was pointed out by an Eagles fan, of all things! YOU might turn a blind eye to the obvious, but that's on YOU!!!
@@dacryptkeeper6836 Oh stop it. Grow up. Skip bayless is bad for your brain.
If he would of stayed in New York the debate would be if Pennington won him his games
I've known this forever aint breaking news
Did Chuck win without Terry?
Did Bill win without Joe?
Did Tom win without Roger?
Did Vince win without Bart?
Did Mike win without John?
Just saying. And by win I mean titles, not almost titles. If that's the metric, Joe Gibbs is the goat.
Rome you are crazy.
Bellicheck has 8 rings 6 with the Patriots and 2 with the NY Giants lol seriously though you people act like he's only ever coached for the Patriots!! Also what happens in this conversation if Bill goes on to win one with Mac Jones too ?????
Didn’t Asante get cut by the Hood on like Christmas or something? There might be some salt being thrown here
Pervin Liar is wild!
Assante cost us a perfect season
Too many people overlook that play
Team game
I’m glad I’m not the only one who missed that. Ass Samuel was known as the finisher, INT in the last 2 mins to seal the deal and he missed the biggest INT of his life off Special Ed Manning. 19-0 perfect season and NFL immortality but naw…
Now you say something after he speaks up lol
That ball was too high to get this hands on. You watch the replay, the ball touched his fingertips!
Asante "butterfingers" Samuel, backup for two super teams, yawn
Rome is the real GOAT!!!
Brady gets the credit, and Belichick had a mediocre record before and after Brady.
Belichik is the GOAT. 6 rings=scoreboard. Vince Lombardi wouldn’t have been the coach he was without his players. So Brady may be a big part of his GOAT status but every coach will tell you its the players that makes them look good or bad.
When Lombardi took over the packers were the worst team in football and the roster wasnt overhauled. He instantly coached up a team from the cellar to champions.
I'm not sure Belichick really even wants to coach anymore
Interesting...i think bill bellichecks good to great defenses and Tom Brady's offensive coordinators, especially Josh McDaniel MADE Tom successful...if Tom gets drafted by anyone else we're not talking Tom..😁✌️
Robert Horry has 7 rings. He won because of other people. Belichick had Brady. Brady already had success without Belichick. It's quite clear.
I hate that mumble sound board clip so much
Man, Rome is such a has-been narcissistic.
💯 💯 Not the goat in my book either I gotta be honest 🤷♂ Win anything without Brady and then we can revisit the conversation but he is going on 4 straight years missing the playoffs without Brady. Not one playoff win without Brady either 🧐 As much as I hate 49ers fans Walsh to me is the goat 🐐
Literally made the playoffs last year. And Walsh was 8-24 his first two years with Joe Montana on the team. And never won a Super Bowl without Joe Montana.
2020 the Patriots had the most holdouts in the league because of COVID. Made the playoffs with a rookie quarterback. Probably should have got surgery last year instead of playing on a high ankle injury.
Defense wins championships!
belechick has been nothing without tom brady.
Everyone, except Robert Kraft and Belichick zealots, know he is a great coach - but his coaching immortality is as a result of and due to Tom Brady. The numbers without Tom, alone prove it. His "development" of Mac Jones, and his offensive "offensive" coordinator decision from last year are evidence. Let's add now, with no Tom, you can't get free agents to come there on the cheap to win a Chip - because there is no Tom. And last but not least, not only was 40+ year old Tom in the top 10 for QG ratings AFTER he left Bill for 3 years - HE WON A GD SUPERBOWL WITHOUT HIM. The reverence and awe New England fans still have for the arrogance and short- sighted decisions Bill perpetually makes - with Tom Brady clutching another ring - after Bill PUSHED him out - has no bearing on a rational discussion with Pat's fans. Bill is the greatest coach - BECAUSE OF Tom Brady. If you preface his title with that recognition, it can be allowed. If not, then don't say it.
Brady is the goat, it's not Bill.
Assante is forgotten. His career after football is to be the male Joy Behar of football. Whine away. 6 rings. Idiot.
Jim Rome? He secretly has a special "Keith Olbermann Room" in his basement.
It's because he can't figure how to draft or find another goat.
Asante who?
3rd CB on two of the early Pats teams, never amounted to much
Same issue in the NBA. Popovich has been less than average in the post Tim Duncan era.
Na
Bacon face?
Bill is the most overrated head coach I’ve seen in my time of watching the NFL, the patriots have been a disaster since Brady left and don’t give me that bs that they made the playoffs, they lost by 20 or something against a fraudulent Bills team that just lost by 17 at home in the divisional round to cincy, also the patriots are 2-8, Asante samaul saying “are u crazy” isnt a reach
He's the greatest, not even arguable! Just facts
Asante Samuels has never ever said anything good about Bill…
So who cares, But I will say Bill is Great but he does have flaws…
Is Bill past his prime , Yesssssss
Yeah! Finally! I’m a yoga teacher and I can teach I mean coach football better than Boll Belichick. You tell ‘em, Jim 🥴