They should have had another coach instead of Hue Jackson in 2018. Baker had three head coaches and three offensive coordinators before his second season. Browns are a clusterfuck.
Really? The same GM John Dorsey who had the #1 Pick in the 2018 Draft and PASSED on Franchise QBs, Josh Allen and Future HOF QB, Lamar Jackson (MVP 2x- possibly 3x). If he picked one of them instead of the 'Baker" who is now on his fourth team, maybe Myles and Botonio would have been happy for a consistently competitive team and QB.
@@rpippen3455 yes really John dorsey drafted 3 probowlers with his first 4 picks for the browns,( Baker, chubb, ward ) baker was the only qb to win a playoff game for cle in 30 years. Lamar doesn't even have more playoff wins than baker. Baker now is 3rd in total tds and passing tds.
@anthonypa8045 Still trying to make 2+2 to equal 5? Lol. If he drafted either Josh or Lamar, currently top 2 QBs in MVP Voting, former GM Dorsey, Could Have and SHOULD HAVE WON MORE FOR THE BROWNS! He didn't so the Browns are bad and Desperate for a QB. Berry hadn't had that type of draft to pick from... the #1 Pick in the entire draft with those QBs?? Ok, they have Chubb, Myles, Ward, etc , and it's still Bad, because they don't have a Franchise QB! QB is The Most Important Position and he MISSED TWICE IN THE SAME 2018 DRAFT.
This team is just forever doomed to keep repeating the same thing; basically they’re the irl Groundhog Day movie of trying different ways to end the cycle but results with the same ending, starting over the process again.
I stopped watching when dude says Arch Manning will be a game changer… he’s not good at all. We suck so hard we can’t even see the same shitty QB we’ve had for years.
You nailed it my friend. How this organization can have DECADES of failure is beyond me. Hell, with Browns, we can't celebrate being mediocre! The Browns are a horrible organization. How this continues is beyond me.
Haslam said he wanted more passing at an Arizona game the Browns won? Seems Stefanski overly aggressive passing, then turnovers. Why the diminished running game from Haslam? The Browns throw it up for grabs throughout many games, when peeps are screamin' to run da damm ball.
The Browns just restructured Deshaun Watson's contract, which means that he will be back with the Browns for at least the next 2 seasons. I don't think that they plan to draft a quarterback with their top 5 pick now, I have a feeling that they will trade back from #5 pick to later in the first round to pick up more draft capital to address the weak areas. Perhaps this is the plan that the Browns showed Myles Garrett this week. I think this move is a mistake, I would have much rather that they draft a quarterback with the top 5 pick, and rebuild the team around that quarterback.
The restructuring is just to make it easier on the cap when we decide to cut him. Spreads out the money more years. No one with a brain thinks deshaun is a nfl started the boy is trash.
I’d be willing to give Stefanski some slack if it weren’t for this litmus test: He spent this whole season unable, or unwilling, to fix the endemic pre-snap penalty problem.
I find it hard to believe that Myles and Joe can’t see the future for the Browns, it’s obvious. These are the things they already know-#1- The Browns don’t have a quarterback and the money tied up in the one they have has crippled the team financially. #2- They don’t have a healthy #1 running back and the one they have is old and injured. #3- The offensive line is old, injured and poor performing. #4- They don’t have a good wide receiver group. #5- The defensive line is old. #6- The defensive backs are mediocre. #7- The general manager is terrible. #8- The coach is mediocre. So with knowing all of that, how in the world do they think the Browns have a plan to fix ALL of that? Do they have trust and faith that the Browns can make and execute a plan? If they do, on what is that trust and faith based? Surely not on performance. All they need to do is admit the truth. The Browns are going to be bad for a long time! They need to get out of Dodge and go to a proper functioning team. Period!
The Browns endlessly acquire high-hype quarterbacks who turn out not to be the “right” guy. If they’re going to keep trying for a quick fix, they should at least stop overpaying. Or, they can just start facing the fact that there can’t be a franchise quarterback if he doesn’t have a franchise around him.
..... Been a fan going on 50 years..... Im SO DONE with this team... EVERY YEAR IT'S THE SAME OLE SAME OLE ..... At least i have Madden... Me and the wife are playing for our tenth straight Superbowl.... And at least I got Myles and Nick their trophies....
We’ve been the FarmTeam of the NFL since 99.. Nothing has changed. The Big Market Team’s still getting Championships. The rest is just cannon fodder!!! Total Disgrace. Tired of the BS all teams set up to win.
Bitonio didn't say that. His coming or not coming back has nothing to do with a plan for Browns future. It's all based on his health. He said he is retiring a Brown. #fact check
Looks like you missed the big picture. The real problem is haslam only hires coaches whom he can CONTROL. Not the best candidates for the job.. no.. guys who he can control. Haslam is basically our headcoach, or depodesta is. He’s just like Dan Gilbert.
How does Berry have a job? He made the worst trade and sign in nfl history. Cant draft AT ALL, and now none of our best players like his plan for the future. Because he has no plan.
If Myles wants change i think they are gonna honor it. Don’t be surprised they fire Stefanski and go with who Myles wants. And please do Jesus im praying
Nothing ever good comes from losing yet the Browns have this loser culture laser etched in their DNA. That's so evident that it will take decades to change, but probably never will. Not one or two winning seasons under Stefanski is going to matter at this point. We're talking about mostly losing seasons since 1970 except for a few good seasons in the 1980's and 1 season in the 1990s and a couple since 2000. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?
All I know is we need to find an identity on offense and fix the Oline. In the draft we get late a QB in the late rounds. Or we trade for Malik willis or Joe Milton. Better options that what's in the draft.
The browns org did it to themselves. It all started when they got rid of Jon Dorsey.
Amen. We had a great GM in dorsey. Andrew berry is a clown, made the worst trade and sign in sports history. Berry and deshaun destroyed this team
They should have had another coach instead of Hue Jackson in 2018. Baker had three head coaches and three offensive coordinators before his second season. Browns are a clusterfuck.
Really? The same GM John Dorsey who had the #1 Pick in the 2018 Draft and PASSED on Franchise QBs, Josh Allen and Future HOF QB, Lamar Jackson (MVP 2x- possibly 3x). If he picked one of them instead of the 'Baker" who is now on his fourth team, maybe Myles and Botonio would have been happy for a consistently competitive team and QB.
@@rpippen3455 yes really John dorsey drafted 3 probowlers with his first 4 picks for the browns,( Baker, chubb, ward ) baker was the only qb to win a playoff game for cle in 30 years. Lamar doesn't even have more playoff wins than baker. Baker now is 3rd in total tds and passing tds.
@anthonypa8045 Still trying to make 2+2 to equal 5? Lol. If he drafted either Josh or Lamar, currently top 2 QBs in MVP Voting, former GM Dorsey, Could Have and SHOULD HAVE WON MORE FOR THE BROWNS! He didn't so the Browns are bad and Desperate for a QB. Berry hadn't had that type of draft to pick from... the #1 Pick in the entire draft with those QBs?? Ok, they have Chubb, Myles, Ward, etc , and it's still Bad, because they don't have a Franchise QB! QB is The Most Important Position and he MISSED TWICE IN THE SAME 2018 DRAFT.
G, you are dead on! I much rather watch your commentary/analysis than the broken team.
It will be another 3 years from the NumNuts Committee
Thanks G for cutting through the smoke and giving us candid opinions and a shot at the truth....
This team is just forever doomed to keep repeating the same thing; basically they’re the irl Groundhog Day movie of trying different ways to end the cycle but results with the same ending, starting over the process again.
I stopped watching when dude says Arch Manning will be a game changer… he’s not good at all. We suck so hard we can’t even see the same shitty QB we’ve had for years.
Yea I agree deshaun is statistically the WORST qb in the nfl last 3 years
Stefanski had 5 years. Get him out of here.
He ain’t had a starting QB on the roster the last three
Wow!! 💯💯💯 The barbershop on point!!!
Bill belichick mastered saying nothing. But he wasn't afraid to hold players accountable and making drastic changes when necessary.
And he was exposed after brady left.
Yep very true 💯💯💯
You nailed it my friend. How this organization can have DECADES of failure is beyond me. Hell, with Browns, we can't celebrate being mediocre! The Browns are a horrible organization. How this continues is beyond me.
So the watson contract was originally a 2021-2026 entanglement, but now it’s a 2021-2028 entanglement? Is that accurate?
Yup andrew berry is a moron. Clueless. Terrible GM
Yes but extending him for the same money will make it easier against the cap
Haslam said he wanted more passing at an Arizona game the Browns won? Seems Stefanski overly aggressive passing, then turnovers. Why the diminished running game from Haslam? The Browns throw it up for grabs throughout many games, when peeps are screamin' to run da damm ball.
Manning won’t come here.
It's not fair to have Manning come here and die on the vine. Cleveland is where QB's come to die.
They fired JOHN DORSEY. For that alone they deserve to lose for the next 100 YEARS and they will. Pied piper time
worst organization, im done with them, no more money or time given to them
wont follow and wont care anymore
I'm right behind you. So tired rooting with these L.O.S.E.R.S.!!!!!
The Browns just restructured Deshaun Watson's contract, which means that he will be back with the Browns for at least the next 2 seasons. I don't think that they plan to draft a quarterback with their top 5 pick now, I have a feeling that they will trade back from #5 pick to later in the first round to pick up more draft capital to address the weak areas. Perhaps this is the plan that the Browns showed Myles Garrett this week. I think this move is a mistake, I would have much rather that they draft a quarterback with the top 5 pick, and rebuild the team around that quarterback.
The restructuring is just to make it easier on the cap when we decide to cut him. Spreads out the money more years. No one with a brain thinks deshaun is a nfl started the boy is trash.
Wow, even G Bush is saying "Same old Browns"!
Never blitzes
I’d be willing to give Stefanski some slack if it weren’t for this litmus test:
He spent this whole season unable, or unwilling, to fix the endemic pre-snap penalty problem.
Hasn't been 30 years, it's been 60! These jokers sound like politicians.
They need to change the problem and fix it not continue with the same thing 😮😮😮😤😤😡
But the Director of Strategy must have something planned. 😂
I find it hard to believe that Myles and Joe can’t see the future for the Browns, it’s obvious. These are the things they already know-#1- The Browns don’t have a quarterback and the money tied up in the one they have has crippled the team financially. #2- They don’t have a healthy #1 running back and the one they have is old and injured. #3- The offensive line is old, injured and poor performing. #4- They don’t have a good wide receiver group. #5- The defensive line is old. #6- The defensive backs are mediocre.
#7- The general manager is terrible. #8- The coach is mediocre.
So with knowing all of that, how in the world do they think the Browns have a plan to fix ALL of that? Do they have trust and faith that the Browns can make and execute a plan? If they do, on what is that trust and faith based? Surely not on performance.
All they need to do is admit the truth. The Browns are going to be bad for a long time! They need to get out of Dodge and go to a proper functioning team. Period!
The Browns endlessly acquire high-hype quarterbacks who turn out not to be the “right” guy.
If they’re going to keep trying for a quick fix, they should at least stop overpaying.
Or, they can just start facing the fact that there can’t be a franchise quarterback if he doesn’t have a franchise around him.
..... Been a fan going on 50 years..... Im SO DONE with this team... EVERY YEAR IT'S THE SAME OLE SAME OLE ..... At least i have Madden... Me and the wife are playing for our tenth straight Superbowl.... And at least I got Myles and Nick their trophies....
We’ve been the FarmTeam of the NFL since 99.. Nothing has changed. The Big Market Team’s still getting Championships. The rest is just cannon fodder!!! Total Disgrace. Tired of the BS all teams set up to win.
Bitonio didn't say that. His coming or not coming back has nothing to do with a plan for Browns future. It's all based on his health. He said he is retiring a Brown. #fact check
Looks like you missed the big picture. The real problem is haslam only hires coaches whom he can CONTROL. Not the best candidates for the job.. no.. guys who he can control. Haslam is basically our headcoach, or depodesta is.
He’s just like Dan Gilbert.
How does Berry have a job? He made the worst trade and sign in nfl history. Cant draft AT ALL, and now none of our best players like his plan for the future. Because he has no plan.
Waiting for your Losing Culture analysis. It never comes just a bunch of nonsense. You like to hear the sound of your voice.
If Myles wants change i think they are gonna honor it. Don’t be surprised they fire Stefanski and go with who Myles wants. And please do Jesus im praying
Nothing ever good comes from losing yet the Browns have this loser culture laser etched in their DNA. That's so evident that it will take decades to change, but probably never will. Not one or two winning seasons under Stefanski is going to matter at this point. We're talking about mostly losing seasons since 1970 except for a few good seasons in the 1980's and 1 season in the 1990s and a couple since 2000. ARE YOU KIDDING ME?!?!?!?
Losing on purpose!!!
Can My Dad Be the QB
All I know is we need to find an identity on offense and fix the Oline. In the draft we get late a QB in the late rounds. Or we trade for Malik willis or Joe Milton. Better options that what's in the draft.