Loved this video, man. Geese is my all-time favorite SNK character. His fighting style fits me perfectly and his personality stands out so much. Loved seeing him in CvS when he faced Bison and destroyed his cape. I've found my forever main for Tekken!
Which is a rare fan theory that Geese is Terry and Andy's father due to the fact both have uncanny fighting ability and both do look like him in his younger years.
that's interesting theory, that would mean the adopted father was killed by their biological father, it will also mean Rock is there younger half brother
I'm sure plenty have already said it, but Rock Howard is canon to Fatal Fury and KoF. Think of them as separate timelines. In Fatal Fury's Geese is perma-dead after FF3 which leads to Rock's debute in Garou Mark of the Wolves. KoF on the other hand alters things around for its own story, so some elements are changed such as the story behind Geese and Rock.
Rock's appearance in KoF14 is likely explained by time-travel. Time-space continuum getting f--ed up is a huge plot-point in 14 (Nakoruru's teammates are from "another world" altogether, Verse is a hodgepotch of dead souls - including Rugal, Ash, and Leona's father - and his destruction not only sets them free, it also brings them back to life in some way, Xanadu's crazy rambling can be interpreted as "different dimensions are merging") so it'd make sense for Mark of the Wolves Rock to show up because of it.
Rock is in XIV for fanservice, he has no presence in the story and characters like Terry and Geese have no win quotes if they beat Rock. While they have win quotes vs Yamazaki a DLC character like Rock. Rock is still a kid along with Kims kids.
As far I as I know, SNK has had multiple continuities with their characters/fighters. However King of Fighters runs on three canons: Character home-series, KOF mainline, and KOF spin-off canons. For characters that debuted outside the KOF series, SNK incorporates several elements from their home series and discards what doesn't work. For example in the home series Fatal Fury, Geese would be considered dead after the 3rd game. In the KOF mainline series, Geese is alive seeking world domination. In the KOF spin-offs (Maximum Impact mainly), Geese would be dead again. The spin-offs are non-canon to the KOF mainline series, but may integrate continuities from the character home series. For Rock Howard, he is actually now canon to the King of Fighters mainline series thanks to XIV. His canon was tweaked be the equivalent to being a young teenager due to previously being a young boy earlier in the KOF series. Rock's original debut though was in Garou: Mark of the Wolves (the final Fatal Fury game). He goes in search to learn about his family and Geese's will. After learning Kain was Rock's uncle, Rock goes to train under him promising to return to Terry later. Since Fatal Fury ended up discontinued, continuities from Garou's planned sequel were incorporated into KOF: Maximum Impact 2 were we see where Rock ended up following his decision in Garou. When KOF XIV rolled around, several continuities from Garou/Maximum Impact 2 were discarded, but others were kept (like Rock's upbringing by Terry) and Rock's mission ended up being seeking revenge against Geese.
Ngamer01 Thanks for clearing this up, trying to say AOF, FF, and KOF were all canon especially when it came to Geese, Ryo, Kyo, and Terry would be quite odd.
Actually i think the DLC characters fro XIV (Ryuuji, Rock, Whip...) are as much canon as the extra characters of KOF XI like Hotaru or Mai from the console version, meaning they're not, teen Rock is there because the devs wanted him there playable, but not to count him in the canon story as much as he has interactions with the cast in a "what if" manner.
Actually that multiple continuities thing was legit before but nowdays SNK just retcoons everything into KOF, even ADK games and Maximum Impact series. How do we know this? Well Dr Brown was in Kof13 storyline and Hattori Hanzo who time travelled in Maximum Impact series is present in Kof13 which is canonical. Also the timeline for Garou also matches with the one in Kof since Garou happens around kof03/11. Also Metal Slug is officially part of the new continuity as their characters appear in various storylines in Kof13/14...So TL/DR Snk lore is now completely in what used to be KOF timeline.
COMBO there would be no fighters left. Kenshiro would least give them a fighting chance. However if you look at Geese, he does have some of that "Souther", flavor to him. His stance, Phoenix power.
I hope Geese's appearance in Tekken gets more people interested in the character and the series he hails from. The SNK fighters really do have a surprising amount of interesting lore for fighting games.
I do wish he had a story mode in Tekken. I'd have liked to have seen him interact with the other characters. Even if he only got to do his own thing rather than fit in the game's canon like Akuma.
Well, due to the quotes from Rock in KOF XIV, _this_ version of Rock just seems to have been abandoned by Geese for some reason. Ironically, Geese seems to have done exactly what his father did before, as Marie (If she is Rock's mother in this timeline) is mentioned to have "suffered ten thousand times worse" than whatever you dish out as a win quote against Geese. He also seems to have been publicly raised (or at least trained) by Terry, as Yamazaki seems to know about him, and is on a first name basis with Terry and Andy, and know their technique when criticizing Joe. Apparently, Rock being trained by Terry is a constant throughout all timelines.
Whining Ylthin What about Yamazaki? He knows that Terry has a protege, and recognized Rock as such. Unless an extremely young Yamazaki traveled with Rock, that wouldn't make sense.
Just to clear things up for you Historybehindthewarrior, the Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury, and Garou: Mark of the Wolves games exist in their own universe, which is separate from the universe of the King of Fighters video games. So in the AOF/FF/MOTW universe Geese is actually dead from his second fall from Geese Tower, while in the KOF universe, he is still alive. EDIT: By the way I also forgot to mention, I'm a big fan of your videos.
I need to bring this up, kof and fatal fury are separate continuities or or a separate universe. When he appeared in kof it was due to the makers not knowing geese was dead. So they made kof a retcon/alternate timeline where geese survived and in his own words became "immortal". So in fatal fury he's dead. Kof he lives
The KOF'94 tidbit is false he never competed in that tournament... he was just aware of it. SNK used to scrap stories/continuities like crazy thus we got loopholes especially when it comes to FF/KOF. never seemed to settle until they went bankrupt. Fact of the matter they scrapped FF1-3 in favor of Wild ambition, however, Real Bout remained untouched. They even tried to fuck it up with FFRBDM which had a twist between billy and white, but it's just extra flavor. Fact is, a lot of people thought Geese was dead in also KOF after KOF'2003 as far as FF/KOF continuity goes, but SNK just flipped them off with his inclusion in KOF14. They simply can do that even with FF. Not hard to do. Funny thing is they never denied his story in super spy game which was a side show. They kept it intact. I found that very bothersome as he was misused in that game.
If we're talking "Canon" Geese died in Real Bout Fatal Fury 1. In Fatal Fury 3 he escapes. He has made multiple appearances in KoF but KoF has never been Canon. You can't have AoF characters be the same age as Fatal Fury characters because they're not. They characters existed in separate timelines. Robert, Ryo and Yuri are in their 20's and around the same age as "young Geese" who is a guest boss in the AoF games. They would be around 40-50 years old if they co-existed with Fatal Fury characters. I know fans and SNK themselves have tried to tie everything together and tried coming up with stories to link them together as the same continuity but it just doesn't work. Long story short. Rock "IS" canon. Geese is dead (or believed to be dead) and KoF is a dream match.Fun fact. When Geese makes his return in Fatal Fury 3 he has a massive "X" shaped scar on his back. Tekken 7 decided to keep this version of Geese.
It's a terrible plot line but the best they could come up with given the circumstances. You have to remember that KoF started off as a "dream match". SNK created a fighting game borrowing existing characters from their other games. They mashed together AoF and Fatal Fury characters. Took Ralk and Clark from Ikari Warriors, took Athena and Kensou from Psycho Soldier etc etc. They then created a few of their own designs for the game and came up with a poor plot later. It's like trying to create a storyline for "Super Smash Bros Melee". I like the game for being a decent fighting game but it's never been canon in my eyes.
Finally someone 👍! I was not surprised that you got it right the second I saw your name. I just saw this video when he finished talking about FF3 I was like ooh my now he started to messed it up.
And more powerful in a way as he envisions himself as a God and must rule everything, just the people he would accumulate would be staggering. And seeing fanatics and cultists. Damn.
@@tonyg196 yeah but think about it in another universe where Geese actually becomes a priests, Goenitz will have an adversary to the throne who will be the true "god" between them.
altron gundam you do know most Tekken characters are basically super human and a few are beyond god? Like Jin for example lol geese stands no chance to the commons like lei wulong let alone the real deals
Sora Kazama I don't think so because Geese fight style is really really pain in the ass he easily can counter any melee super special ask any 1 played the king of fighters or capcom vs snk it's the fighting style
Geese wasn't in KoF '94, unless there's some background info to this I'm not aware of. I've heard he was supposed to be in '95 but for whatever reason wasn't included until '96. And for whatever god awful reason, he was not included in the original Dream Match in '98.
pretty cool!!! I only knew about half of all this because the continuity of geese and team fatal fury aka "wolf pack" spun out of control when kof 95 came out
Rock is geese’s son, he grew up taking care of his sick mother and watched her die similar to geese story and wanted answers on why he was never around. With all the hate he had inside of him Terry took rock under his wing then trained him which is why he has a mixture of geese and terry abilities.
I just like the opening Quote in KOF and SNK VS Capcom 2 "Geese!" While it's just his name his gesture and tone shows that there is a lot behind the two.
then geese journeyed to the tekken universe for no real reason but to make people sh*t their pants (for the moment, we don't know if he will be part of the story,I know)
Edmilson zorima wtf are you on about, geese would destroy jin and kazuya, you're just a little too much of a fan boy. jin and kazuya aren't like 'thee' strongest fighting game characters out there you know.
Devil Jin I think you actually don't know nothing about the fighting game universe. if you fgc fan you should know that geese was defeated by Ryu and Akuma on Capcom VS SNK and Ryu was defeated by Kazuya on Capcom VS Bandai Namco. actually don't forget that Jin is Ten times stronger than Kazuya and Shin Akuma was struggling with Devil Kazuya, and just think if it was Jin, I guess neither geese or Shin Akuma or Ryu would stand a chance against the all might Jin Kazama!
Devil Jin oni not a transformation, its a different person a entity if akuma let it consumes him he's consider dead, akuma not letting that happen, I mean I know sfxt is non canon but there basically has the same power level if you seen the ending of there aura oni is just a shadow that akuma just cast away, same with jin and devil jin, jin hates transforming into devil cause he knows, devil will eventually come out and control him, plus jin really hates the devil curse power its really a threat to the planet that why he's trying to find a way to kill kazuya and himself, Azazel had that same devil tattoo on his chest as well Azazel was God that try to destroy the planet all because of humans keep fighting in wars and everybody was bound by sins, so in the mean time its a good thing kazuya is only at 50% with his devil power that means he can never go at a 100% if he did Well the world's screw plus you need someone with the devil gene to kill him or same Mishima family bloodline to do it
The reveal of Geese was fucking awesome. I didn't have great expectations for Tekken 7, after the huge letdown that was Tekken 6, but after trying it, I actually found it absolutely awesome. It's probably becoming my favourite Tekken game since Tekken 2. And with the inclusion of Geese, it's basically becoming Tekken X Street Fighter X SNK. Now just add Sub-Zero, Akira and Sol Badguy and we'll have the definitive fighting game.
He will probably be one of the potential antagonist for Tekken next saga. As from atlus Ragna will be another perfect guest character that can relate to Jin
King of Fighter is in an alternative timeline not the same as Fatal fury and Art of fighting that's why he appears in the KOF games. Rock Howard is canon the timeline goes Art of Fighting Fatal Fury then Real bout then fatal fury again and finally Garou. The King of fighter stuff are in their own universe and separated from the main continuity
Nice video. One this I need to mention, from what I heard, there are 2 timelines in the canon of Fatal Fury and King of Fighters. One where it is Art of Fighting, the majority of the Fatal Fury series, and Garou: Mark of the Wolves and the other has Fatal Fury 1 and 2 then the Majority of the KoF series.
Who else from the PROJECT X ZONE games will show up next? Demetri from DARK STALKERS (he though Kazuya was cool)? Majima from YAKUZA (he knows Heihachi apparently)? SF's Chun Li (tried to arrest him post TTT2)? VF's Pai Chan (probably still angry about Heihachi talking about her dad Lau)? I mean seriously lol.
I don't think I'll ever end up maining him, but I'm definitely hyped for Goose in Tekken 7. Also, Periphery is the shit and Marigold is a great fucking song. Thumbs up for you sir.
Also Geese is canonically Dead in the Fatal Fury Timeline INCLUDING the Garou Mark of the WOlf (FF4) But apparently KOF is a DIFFERENT timeline - so he still lives while Rock's appearance is quite a paradox but he is DLC so non canon. Yeah, its all weird. We also dont talk about Fatal Fury WIld Ambition - - - -- Reboot storyline o.O
One thing SNK did much better than Capcom was developing the backstory of their characters, and giving a more mature theme in this inter-connected world of theirs.
One thing you didn't indicate is that the KOF games are in a different continuity than the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting games (in fact, the Maximum Impact series is a third continuity). Rock Howard is canon to the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting/Mark of Wolves series, but not to KOF. Art of Fighting takes place in the 70's. Fatal Fury is 90's (I think). But KOF ignores the time difference between the two series'. That's why he died in Fatal Fury Real Bout, but regularly sent people throughout the KOF series.
Gregory6199 injustice isn't canon to mk and that wouldn't make sense cause he died in mk9 or got took somewhere else in mk9 so he would of been in the first injustice which was after mk9
is it just me or is Gesse haward Hihachi akuma M bioson are they imortals or just to bad ass to die with very high death rate? i mean Geasse fallen off tow towers lived Hihachi blew up and still lived I dont know about akuma or M bison lived thru thats killabel i know they badass
Heihachi and akuma r pretty tough while geese and m bison have a few tricks allowing them to survive. Though I liked the dlc trailer and geese new design and fighting style I can't c him on the same level of strength compared to heihachi and akuma. ( story wise )
shex9 i been debateing to get tekken7 street fighter 5 xenoves 2 or king of fighters i am a fan of the first 3 and only playyed the demo of king of fighters i liked it
History Behind The Warrior The hooded character silhouette in injustice 2 might be spectre. He has a cloak and he is cannon to the comics. Also he would be the least expected character to be dlc.
marcell jones maximum impact 2 or kof 2006 whatever you want to call it was the best keep it like that unless you mean like Tekken 4 where stages heavily effect gameplay and it isn't really about combos
There are two timelines. Timeline 1: Art of Fighting (Young Geese) - Fatal Fury ( Geese) - Garou aka Fatal Fury 4 (where Geese is confirmed to be dead) Timeline 1: The King of Fighters Series. (Know less about Geese in this timeline, but your description of his actions sound accurate) The KoF is a different timeline due to the fact that the Art of Fighting Team is younger than they should be, 10 years according to when Jeff Bogard is killed in Fatal Fury. They don't line up with the Fatal Fury timeline, but Rock Howard is canon in the original Fatal Fury series. That series lines up more with the older SNK games, and KoF is more of a reboot with a lot of characters in their prime, otherwise there should be Mr Karate Ryo, Older Robert (As seen in Neo Geo Battle Colosseum) and Yuri in her late 20s. It doesn't handle the passage of time as well and they've tried to have Garou fighters in KofXI, but it hasn't worked very well as they've switched back Terry to his classic look. With Rock in Kof14 though, I've yet to play his story mode to see how 'canon' his inclusion is, but considering how many KoF games have happened, the passage of time may have finally caught up to a Garou 'future' a few games ago.
I guess this was necessary considering Anakin said nobody in the Evo Tekken top 8 knew who Geese Howard was... And yes, as has been said before, there are multiple timelines and in one of them Geese is very much dead.
Same here...where TF he was told that Geese appears in '94? .-. One thing is confusing games or lore important things... But thinks like utter LIES? DA F#&k?
@@MohsinAli-kq7rc Wrong. Geese didn't host KOF '94. He only shows up in the endings of '94 and '95. So, yes, he *does* appear in KOF '94...but not as a playable character. He's also not the host of that tournament.
I'm going to pick up Tekken 7 after the last guest is revealed, still a bit too busy with GG atm. Very hype for Geese, and I hope the last pick is Sol or Ragna for Arc Systems rep, or maybe Gannondorf if Nintendo wanted to play nice.
Geese Howard, the Scarface of fighting games.
Loved this video, man. Geese is my all-time favorite SNK character. His fighting style fits me perfectly and his personality stands out so much. Loved seeing him in CvS when he faced Bison and destroyed his cape.
I've found my forever main for Tekken!
I have a question. Why everyone love Terry? ;-;
I like Beak Do San, Marshal Law, & Lei Wulong surpising Lei isn't in Tekken 7
My favorite SNK character is Choi then Chang and Kim!!.
Geese Howard must be the ancestor of Adolf Hitler due to their power-hungry intentions after a rough upbringing with their fathers.
Only a boss can flex on a another boss 😁
"I''ll Stain My Hands With Your Bra"
MultiDante333 Said Geese towards Jun Kazama
@MultiDante333 You mean "I'll Stain My Hands With Your Blood."
drew6874 the joke went over your head lmao
"I stay in my house, with your brother."
MultiDante333 lmfao
Young Geese looks like Andy Bogard.
Which is a rare fan theory that Geese is Terry and Andy's father due to the fact both have uncanny fighting ability and both do look like him in his younger years.
ExeErdna so he killed Jeff for stealing his girl and being their stepfather lol
Daemon Blackfyre in fact that was the idea in the bifginings of FF series, after SNK drop the idea
that's interesting theory, that would mean the adopted father was killed by their biological father, it will also mean Rock is there younger half brother
Goliath Online and the fact verse is dead and all the souls are released
Geese is alive in KOF because it's a separate timeline from AOF/Fatal Fury\MOTW.
I personally think he thrown himself off buildings for fun to become stronger
Lol he transmigrated like an anime character lol
Yup.
KOF 94 takes place before Geese’s death in the Real Bout Fatal Fury game (he still has the Scrolls of Immortality in the KOF games).
I'm sure plenty have already said it, but Rock Howard is canon to Fatal Fury and KoF. Think of them as separate timelines. In Fatal Fury's Geese is perma-dead after FF3 which leads to Rock's debute in Garou Mark of the Wolves. KoF on the other hand alters things around for its own story, so some elements are changed such as the story behind Geese and Rock.
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Geese died in real bout, not FF3.
Rock's appearance in KoF14 is likely explained by time-travel. Time-space continuum getting f--ed up is a huge plot-point in 14 (Nakoruru's teammates are from "another world" altogether, Verse is a hodgepotch of dead souls - including Rugal, Ash, and Leona's father - and his destruction not only sets them free, it also brings them back to life in some way, Xanadu's crazy rambling can be interpreted as "different dimensions are merging") so it'd make sense for Mark of the Wolves Rock to show up because of it.
Rock is in XIV for fanservice, he has no presence in the story and characters like Terry and Geese have no win quotes if they beat Rock. While they have win quotes vs Yamazaki a DLC character like Rock. Rock is still a kid along with Kims kids.
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Welp shit. I thought it was FF3. Thanks for the correction.
@@badmaaash did he really die Die, or what his second death just like the first one though
As far I as I know, SNK has had multiple continuities with their characters/fighters. However King of Fighters runs on three canons: Character home-series, KOF mainline, and KOF spin-off canons. For characters that debuted outside the KOF series, SNK incorporates several elements from their home series and discards what doesn't work. For example in the home series Fatal Fury, Geese would be considered dead after the 3rd game. In the KOF mainline series, Geese is alive seeking world domination. In the KOF spin-offs (Maximum Impact mainly), Geese would be dead again. The spin-offs are non-canon to the KOF mainline series, but may integrate continuities from the character home series.
For Rock Howard, he is actually now canon to the King of Fighters mainline series thanks to XIV. His canon was tweaked be the equivalent to being a young teenager due to previously being a young boy earlier in the KOF series. Rock's original debut though was in Garou: Mark of the Wolves (the final Fatal Fury game). He goes in search to learn about his family and Geese's will. After learning Kain was Rock's uncle, Rock goes to train under him promising to return to Terry later.
Since Fatal Fury ended up discontinued, continuities from Garou's planned sequel were incorporated into KOF: Maximum Impact 2 were we see where Rock ended up following his decision in Garou. When KOF XIV rolled around, several continuities from Garou/Maximum Impact 2 were discarded, but others were kept (like Rock's upbringing by Terry) and Rock's mission ended up being seeking revenge against Geese.
KoF is its own universe,separate from FF ones,yea
Geese and Ryo would be around the same age in KoF if they went by AoF/FF years
Ngamer01 Thanks for clearing this up, trying to say AOF, FF, and KOF were all canon especially when it came to Geese, Ryo, Kyo, and Terry would be quite odd.
Also, several of Garou's characters appeared in the Woman Team ending as well.
Actually i think the DLC characters fro XIV (Ryuuji, Rock, Whip...) are as much canon as the extra characters of KOF XI like Hotaru or Mai from the console version, meaning they're not, teen Rock is there because the devs wanted him there playable, but not to count him in the canon story as much as he has interactions with the cast in a "what if" manner.
Actually that multiple continuities thing was legit before but nowdays SNK just retcoons everything into KOF, even ADK games and Maximum Impact series. How do we know this? Well Dr Brown was in Kof13 storyline and Hattori Hanzo who time travelled in Maximum Impact series is present in Kof13 which is canonical. Also the timeline for Garou also matches with the one in Kof since Garou happens around kof03/11. Also Metal Slug is officially part of the new continuity as their characters appear in various storylines in Kof13/14...So TL/DR Snk lore is now completely in what used to be KOF timeline.
I want to see Kenshiro in T7, the Hokuto Shin Ken Grandmaster from Fist of the North Star.
COMBO there would be no fighters left.
Kenshiro would least give them a fighting chance.
However if you look at Geese, he does have some of that "Souther", flavor to him. His stance, Phoenix power.
@@kevynhansyn2902 he does remind me of souther
Just so we can see him go blow to blow with Geese, Kazuya and Akuma
@@John-Stark and Paul Phoenix and Bryan Fury
@@dariushlarijani8083 oh Brian would LOVE fighting Kenshiro
I think with Akuma, and now Geese, Namco Bandai are heading a huge step in the right direction for a great cross over....let's hope.
I love what Tekken 7 is doing. I hope they bring in an anime character like Yujiro Hannma.
really cool to see that i am not the only one, cuz yujiro would fit perfect in tekken 7
Anastasio De Leon YES PLEASE
Anastasio De Leon tha would be insane!!! 😈
that would be sick but the grappler Baki just isn't popular here
Yo he was OP as fuck in Breakblow fist or twist on ps2
I had no idea who Geese was before he was announced, but he looks badass. I am definitely maining him.
kid, you need to live... Geese is one of the evilest beings in creation
I hope Geese's appearance in Tekken gets more people interested in the character and the series he hails from. The SNK fighters really do have a surprising amount of interesting lore for fighting games.
Anyone else laugh when Gesse Howard fell to his death trying to grab the Smash Invitation in Terry's reveal trailer?
Heard that he falls off buildings normally, so I doubt he died.
@@EonTheAien he fell into Tekken
I do wish he had a story mode in Tekken. I'd have liked to have seen him interact with the other characters. Even if he only got to do his own thing rather than fit in the game's canon like Akuma.
Well, due to the quotes from Rock in KOF XIV, _this_ version of Rock just seems to have been abandoned by Geese for some reason.
Ironically, Geese seems to have done exactly what his father did before, as Marie (If she is Rock's mother in this timeline) is mentioned to have "suffered ten thousand times worse" than whatever you dish out as a win quote against Geese.
He also seems to have been publicly raised (or at least trained) by Terry, as Yamazaki seems to know about him, and is on a first name basis with Terry and Andy, and know their technique when criticizing Joe. Apparently, Rock being trained by Terry is a constant throughout all timelines.
Kenmiester2012 I think the best explanation we have right now is time travel or something like that.
Whining Ylthin What about Yamazaki? He knows that Terry has a protege, and recognized Rock as such. Unless an extremely young Yamazaki traveled with Rock, that wouldn't make sense.
Fun fact: He likes to parry A LOT.......
but none of the pro players use it :c
Just to clear things up for you Historybehindthewarrior, the Art of Fighting, Fatal Fury, and Garou: Mark of the Wolves games exist in their own universe, which is separate from the universe of the King of Fighters video games. So in the AOF/FF/MOTW universe Geese is actually dead from his second fall from Geese Tower, while in the KOF universe, he is still alive.
EDIT: By the way I also forgot to mention, I'm a big fan of your videos.
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Everyone in South Town has a very thick accent.
I need to bring this up, kof and fatal fury are separate continuities or or a separate universe. When he appeared in kof it was due to the makers not knowing geese was dead. So they made kof a retcon/alternate timeline where geese survived and in his own words became "immortal". So in fatal fury he's dead. Kof he lives
He's a Perfect Brand New Addition to The Franchise I'd Love to See Him Go One On One with Raven,Nina,Claudio,King,Katarina,Hoarang and Jin.
SNK Character History now.
4:18 Geese was not in KOF 94. His first KOF entry was in KOF 96, alongside Krauser and Mr. Big.
Confusing as it usually is, the SNK fighting canon is actually kind of awesome.
The KOF'94 tidbit is false he never competed in that tournament... he was just aware of it. SNK used to scrap stories/continuities like crazy thus we got loopholes especially when it comes to FF/KOF. never seemed to settle until they went bankrupt.
Fact of the matter they scrapped FF1-3 in favor of Wild ambition, however, Real Bout remained untouched. They even tried to fuck it up with FFRBDM which had a twist between billy and white, but it's just extra flavor. Fact is, a lot of people thought Geese was dead in also KOF after KOF'2003 as far as FF/KOF continuity goes, but SNK just flipped them off with his inclusion in KOF14. They simply can do that even with FF. Not hard to do.
Funny thing is they never denied his story in super spy game which was a side show. They kept it intact. I found that very bothersome as he was misused in that game.
If we're talking "Canon" Geese died in Real Bout Fatal Fury 1. In Fatal Fury 3 he escapes. He has made multiple appearances in KoF but KoF has never been Canon. You can't have AoF characters be the same age as Fatal Fury characters because they're not. They characters existed in separate timelines. Robert, Ryo and Yuri are in their 20's and around the same age as "young Geese" who is a guest boss in the AoF games. They would be around 40-50 years old if they co-existed with Fatal Fury characters. I know fans and SNK themselves have tried to tie everything together and tried coming up with stories to link them together as the same continuity but it just doesn't work. Long story short. Rock "IS" canon. Geese is dead (or believed to be dead) and KoF is a dream match.Fun fact. When Geese makes his return in Fatal Fury 3 he has a massive "X" shaped scar on his back. Tekken 7 decided to keep this version of Geese.
It's a terrible plot line but the best they could come up with given the circumstances. You have to remember that KoF started off as a "dream match". SNK created a fighting game borrowing existing characters from their other games. They mashed together AoF and Fatal Fury characters. Took Ralk and Clark from Ikari Warriors, took Athena and Kensou from Psycho Soldier etc etc. They then created a few of their own designs for the game and came up with a poor plot later. It's like trying to create a storyline for "Super Smash Bros Melee". I like the game for being a decent fighting game but it's never been canon in my eyes.
maybe just look at it differently,
KOF being in an alternate universe while AOF/FF being in another :D
Finally someone 👍! I was not surprised that you got it right the second I saw your name.
I just saw this video when he finished talking about FF3 I was like ooh my now he started to messed it up.
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Geese is Terry and Andy's true(?), real(?), actual(?), right(?), genuine(?), proper(?), authentic(?), live(?) father
It's funny to imagine that there might have been a world where Geese Howard became a priest. Priest Howard.
And more powerful in a way as he envisions himself as a God and must rule everything, just the people he would accumulate would be staggering. And seeing fanatics and cultists. Damn.
@@jadeimingan184 goenitz sort of fits that role
@@tonyg196 yeah but think about it in another universe where Geese actually becomes a priests, Goenitz will have an adversary to the throne who will be the true "god" between them.
Fucking love that artist for SNK
In the Garou continuity he is dead.
Lucas Vinicius true but I think that KOF and Fatal fury take place in different timelines I could be wrong
shadow gamerx They must be in different timelines
Yes. they are different time lines.
Geese is a real pain in the ass R.I.P tekken characters and meet your nightmare
altron gundam you do know most Tekken characters are basically super human and a few are beyond god? Like Jin for example lol geese stands no chance to the commons like lei wulong let alone the real deals
Sora Kazama I don't think so because Geese fight style is really really pain in the ass he easily can counter any melee super special ask any 1 played the king of fighters or capcom vs snk it's the fighting style
altron gundam laser, or telekinesis he can't
@@xsorakazamax7522 doubt it dickweed
man like geese with his deadly throws jeeez. lots of memories playing fatal fury/king of fighters.
Pfff
Cmon HBTW - You know Geese survived his first fall out of that building by screaming reaching near the pavement and screaming "PREDICTABO!!"
Excellent Breakdown, Content and Detail of Geese’s History...Long Time Fan of Fatal Fury, AOF, KOF, SNK etc...Subbed💯
"PREDICTABLO" Choice of video ;)
Make a video on Rugal Bernstein next.
Geese wasn't in KoF '94, unless there's some background info to this I'm not aware of. I've heard he was supposed to be in '95 but for whatever reason wasn't included until '96. And for whatever god awful reason, he was not included in the original Dream Match in '98.
Not as a playable character, but does make appearances in the Fatal Fury team endings
Geese is one of the most difficult chars to. Master.... I love using him
pretty cool!!! I only knew about half of all this because the continuity of geese and team fatal fury aka "wolf pack" spun out of control when kof 95 came out
Rock is geese’s son, he grew up taking care of his sick mother and watched her die similar to geese story and wanted answers on why he was never around. With all the hate he had inside of him Terry took rock under his wing then trained him which is why he has a mixture of geese and terry abilities.
Fatal Fury Wild Ambition Geese Howard's Super was a long combo and it was so worth pulling it off :)
I just like the opening Quote in KOF and SNK VS Capcom 2 "Geese!" While it's just his name his gesture and tone shows that there is a lot behind the two.
Who else is HYPED AS FUCKED for Geese coming to Tekken this winter?!?
then geese journeyed to the tekken universe for no real reason but to make people sh*t their pants (for the moment, we don't know if he will be part of the story,I know)
Devil Jin not even stronger than Kazuya and let not just talk about Jin, because it would be too much for him!
Edmilson zorima wtf are you on about, geese would destroy jin and kazuya, you're just a little too much of a fan boy. jin and kazuya aren't like 'thee' strongest fighting game characters out there you know.
Devil Jin I think you actually don't know nothing about the fighting game universe. if you fgc fan you should know that geese was defeated by Ryu and Akuma on Capcom VS SNK and Ryu was defeated by Kazuya on Capcom VS Bandai Namco. actually don't forget that Jin is Ten times stronger than Kazuya and Shin Akuma was struggling with Devil Kazuya, and just think if it was Jin, I guess neither geese or Shin Akuma or Ryu would stand a chance against the all might Jin Kazama!
Edmilson zorima what about oni? jin does stand a chance against him admit it
Devil Jin oni not a transformation, its a different person a entity if akuma let it consumes him he's consider dead, akuma not letting that happen, I mean I know sfxt is non canon but there basically has the same power level if you seen the ending of there aura oni is just a shadow that akuma just cast away, same with jin and devil jin, jin hates transforming into devil cause he knows, devil will eventually come out and control him, plus jin really hates the devil curse power its really a threat to the planet that why he's trying to find a way to kill kazuya and himself, Azazel had that same devil tattoo on his chest as well Azazel was God that try to destroy the planet all because of humans keep fighting in wars and everybody was bound by sins, so in the mean time its a good thing kazuya is only at 50% with his devil power that means he can never go at a 100% if he did
Well the world's screw plus you need someone with the devil gene to kill him or same Mishima family bloodline to do it
My guess for the next DLC:
1. Shang Tsung representing Netherealm or
2. Lau (Pai's father) representing Virtua Fighter from Sega
Ironically this canon makes Yuri older than Terry and Andy or at the same age as them while Robert and Ryo are older
Sorry I'm late.
Yuri is 10 years older than Terry in the AOF/FF canon.
Geese Howard Is Badassed!
I like him more after you revealed so much the man made his way from Nothing.
The only badass that's able to face any incoming attack and yell "PREDICTABO" proudly.
Pretty good, I always liked the fatal fury series and loved the movies, too was shocked to know Wolfgang Krauzer is Geese's brother though.
Also, Geese showed up in KoF '96, not '94.
The reveal of Geese was fucking awesome.
I didn't have great expectations for Tekken 7, after the huge letdown that was Tekken 6, but after trying it, I actually found it absolutely awesome. It's probably becoming my favourite Tekken game since Tekken 2.
And with the inclusion of Geese, it's basically becoming Tekken X Street Fighter X SNK. Now just add Sub-Zero, Akira and Sol Badguy and we'll have the definitive fighting game.
He will probably be one of the potential antagonist for Tekken next saga. As from atlus Ragna will be another perfect guest character that can relate to Jin
SNK fighting games story lines are WAY deeper and more awesome than Street Figther, Mortal Kombat, and even Tekken! So hyped to play as Geese!
History of bloody roar characters
Assim AL-Busaidi omg that game needs a serious reboot
Mike Jumbo Jet or a follow up to the story
Thanks so much I been wanting this!
King of Fighter is in an alternative timeline not the same as Fatal fury and Art of fighting that's why he appears in the KOF games. Rock Howard is canon the timeline goes Art of Fighting Fatal Fury then Real bout then fatal fury again and finally Garou. The King of fighter stuff are in their own universe and separated from the main continuity
Geese Howard, the ULTIMATE survivor
Nice video. One this I need to mention, from what I heard, there are 2 timelines in the canon of Fatal Fury and King of Fighters. One where it is Art of Fighting, the majority of the Fatal Fury series, and Garou: Mark of the Wolves and the other has Fatal Fury 1 and 2 then the Majority of the KoF series.
Who else from the PROJECT X ZONE games will show up next? Demetri from DARK STALKERS (he though Kazuya was cool)? Majima from YAKUZA (he knows Heihachi apparently)? SF's Chun Li (tried to arrest him post TTT2)? VF's Pai Chan (probably still angry about Heihachi talking about her dad Lau)? I mean seriously lol.
What is Geese Howard's martial art you say?
The art of hitting someone with the PLANET
I don't think I'll ever end up maining him, but I'm definitely hyped for Goose in Tekken 7.
Also, Periphery is the shit and Marigold is a great fucking song. Thumbs up for you sir.
I Love Geese. He's such a deuche, but such a BadAss. I like Rock also.
He sounds fucking badass
You didnt mention Real Bout Fatal Fury series Geese version
Wow now the kids came out the woodworks since Tekken 7 release but little that you know him and Terry shared a child
Also Geese is canonically Dead in the Fatal Fury Timeline INCLUDING the Garou Mark of the WOlf (FF4)
But apparently KOF is a DIFFERENT timeline - so he still lives while Rock's appearance is quite a paradox but he is DLC so non canon. Yeah, its all weird.
We also dont talk about Fatal Fury WIld Ambition - - - -- Reboot storyline o.O
it seems verse is weakening the different universes of SNK's barriers... which Allowed Rock Age Garou to coexist with Rock Age KOF
One thing SNK did much better than Capcom was developing the backstory of their characters, and giving a more mature theme in this inter-connected world of theirs.
Had no clue who Geese was but I played Capcom vs SNK and KOF as a kid. I was always a big fan of Kyo.
One thing you didn't indicate is that the KOF games are in a different continuity than the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting games (in fact, the Maximum Impact series is a third continuity). Rock Howard is canon to the Fatal Fury/Art of Fighting/Mark of Wolves series, but not to KOF. Art of Fighting takes place in the 70's. Fatal Fury is 90's (I think). But KOF ignores the time difference between the two series'. That's why he died in Fatal Fury Real Bout, but regularly sent people throughout the KOF series.
In the original Capcom vs SNK Geese Howard is so hard it was frustrating.
New Mortal Kombat Theory! Noob Saibot (Original Sub-Zero) Is in the Injustice 2 Game! Which is why Bo' Rai Cho says "His location must be Hidden."
Gregory6199 injustice isn't canon to mk and that wouldn't make sense cause he died in mk9 or got took somewhere else in mk9 so he would of been in the first injustice which was after mk9
is it just me or is Gesse haward Hihachi akuma M bioson are they imortals or just to bad ass to die with very high death rate? i mean Geasse fallen off tow towers lived Hihachi blew up and still lived I dont know about akuma or M bison lived thru thats killabel i know they badass
Heihachi and akuma r pretty tough while geese and m bison have a few tricks allowing them to survive. Though I liked the dlc trailer and geese new design and fighting style I can't c him on the same level of strength compared to heihachi and akuma. ( story wise )
shex9 i been debateing to get tekken7 street fighter 5 xenoves 2 or king of fighters i am a fan of the first 3 and only playyed the demo of king of fighters i liked it
MrGrimjaw
at least hehachi and m.bison defeated some people
go for tekken 7 all the way man
Heihachi Has an excuse since he gave birth to and fights Satan every other week.
That ending = GOLD :O Well done :)
History Behind The Warrior The hooded character silhouette in injustice 2 might be spectre. He has a cloak and he is cannon to the comics. Also he would be the least expected character to be dlc.
That you very much.
I love geese and you helped me understand him
A series on the king of fighters would be great
I wish they made an SNK game based off the Tekken engine it will be so fucking sweet
marcell jones maximum impact 2 or kof 2006 whatever you want to call it was the best keep it like that unless you mean like Tekken 4 where stages heavily effect gameplay and it isn't really about combos
There are two timelines.
Timeline 1: Art of Fighting (Young Geese) - Fatal Fury ( Geese) - Garou aka Fatal Fury 4 (where Geese is confirmed to be dead)
Timeline 1: The King of Fighters Series. (Know less about Geese in this timeline, but your description of his actions sound accurate)
The KoF is a different timeline due to the fact that the Art of Fighting Team is younger than they should be, 10 years according to when Jeff Bogard is killed in Fatal Fury. They don't line up with the Fatal Fury timeline, but Rock Howard is canon in the original Fatal Fury series. That series lines up more with the older SNK games, and KoF is more of a reboot with a lot of characters in their prime, otherwise there should be Mr Karate Ryo, Older Robert (As seen in Neo Geo Battle Colosseum) and Yuri in her late 20s. It doesn't handle the passage of time as well and they've tried to have Garou fighters in KofXI, but it hasn't worked very well as they've switched back Terry to his classic look. With Rock in Kof14 though, I've yet to play his story mode to see how 'canon' his inclusion is, but considering how many KoF games have happened, the passage of time may have finally caught up to a Garou 'future' a few games ago.
I guess this was necessary considering Anakin said nobody in the Evo Tekken top 8 knew who Geese Howard was...
And yes, as has been said before, there are multiple timelines and in one of them Geese is very much dead.
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Good video mate
Your videos are so awesome, keep up the good work.
P.S. Geese teamed up with Mr. Big and Krauser in KOF'96, not in KOF'94 😉
Ur channel is awsome bro congrats!!
WTF!!! Geese did never enter the KOF 94, he was in KOF 96
Same here...where TF he was told that Geese appears in '94? .-.
One thing is confusing games or lore important things... But thinks like utter LIES? DA F#&k?
@@MFIBCN GEESE DID NOT PARTICIPATED IN KOF 94 TOURNAMENT BUT THE TOURNAMENT WAS HOSTED BY HIM
@@MohsinAli-kq7rc Wrong. Geese didn't host KOF '94.
He only shows up in the endings of '94 and '95.
So, yes, he *does* appear in KOF '94...but not as a playable character. He's also not the host of that tournament.
I've never played a Tekken, but I'll play 7 just for Geese.
if nightmare or a mk character show up next, i swear ill go full on teenybopper mood. that would be awesome
And Rock IS canon in the FF continuity. Rock also shows up in 2k2, but that's considered a Dream Match.
I loved this! Please Do more KOF videos! 😁😁😁
A like and kudos for all the extensive research.
Geese is Kazuya and Heihachi in one. Story wise at least.
Nice expiation interesting to know about snk Kof wiki
It's also rumored that Kazuma Kiryu from the Sega Yakuza Series might also make the cut in Tekken 7.
Thank you. Now I have more information about Geese.
I'm going to pick up Tekken 7 after the last guest is revealed, still a bit too busy with GG atm. Very hype for Geese, and I hope the last pick is Sol or Ragna for Arc Systems rep, or maybe Gannondorf if Nintendo wanted to play nice.
He was in king of fighters 96 not 94.... and rock is his son who terry raises, but he's from mark of the wolves, which is in the future.
I only know geese as that one guy from Capcom vs SNK 2
keep up the good work bro
Souther from Fist of the North star.
Thanks for this can't wait for him to drop