This is Lydia Knight :) thank you for all of these insightful comments. I really appreciate being able to share. ✨Big thanks to Shelise. You are an amazing host doing really important work in the world.
I am so glad that you were willing to answer the question about your organization and what you do to keep it from turning into something else. I was totally thinking it and I can easily see how that would be upsetting to be asked it but you handled it very maturely. :-)
Thank you for sharing your story. I got chills in the best way possible when you got to the part of reuniting with your dad. This would make an incredible movie or TV show.
Thank you for sharing! It is incredible and life changing so many people. May you continue your journey and keep helping people, this world needs it dearly. Take care!
With my family being a cult around my narcissistic mom I also believed I was loved but I wasn’t. In my case my dad would have saved us if he’d left. I now know that wasn’t love. I was alive in the 80’s and remember satanic panic well. All the people accused of things that didn’t even exist. Had no idea being an ex evangelical in the south the the satanic panic touched Mormonism
I hope all C2C guests know how much we appreciate the vulnerability, honesty, and strength involved in sharing their experiences. Thank you, Lydia, for sharing your journey through life. Your ability to share your experiences with such candid honesty, eloquence, humour, and compassion is incredible. And thank you, Shelise, for giving others a platform to speak and centering the voices of survivors.
Lydia, you are such a beautiful soul. You speak so eloquently. Thanks for your bold and vulnerable share. And wow, you're so BEAUTIFUL inside and out. Thank you for the work you're doing! SHALISE, fellow exmo here. Born and raised in Provo Utah. I have been so engrossed and engaged by your channel. I absolutely LOVE what you and your husband are doing. You are an amazing host. Keep revealing these stories! It's important work. THANK YOU❤
@@noelgawthrop9879 this is such a thoughtful comment! Thank you! I’m so glad that we are here together. I went to BYU and totally get the Provo culture 😆 appreciate the encouragement!
I lived through the Satanic Panic, and it wasn’t just Asians. I remember playing with a Jewish friend, and a neighbor asking why I was playing with someone who worshiped satan and drank Christian children’s blood. I’d never heard the blood libel myth. Thank goodness we stood up to them and told them that they sounded insane. It was a terrible time. I’m so glad Lydia not just survived, but is now thriving.
Thank you for mentioning that! Yes, it seemed that anyone who wasn’t white and Christian was categorized as a satan worshiper 🫠 i’m so glad you stood up against it!
This is one of the most horrible stories of mental abuse. I imagine that as a child if she did get close to a friend at school and tried to talk about anything at all would result in a phone call and questions and another rapid move to another place. It is amazing that Lydia can sit there and sound so strong and normal!!!!
It totally did. I'm always so impressed when people talk about having friends from elementary school because I was not able to stay connected to anyone. And thank you! I'm grateful that I found a process that I've been able to share with so many others about coming out on the other side strong and normal :)
The way I GASPED when you connected Asian people as 'Satan Worshipers' during the Satanic Panic. I have memories of living in the deep south and there being LOTS of side eye and whispers with anything having to do with Asian culture; restaurants, anime, manga, heck even the nail salons. There was always this miasma of 'uncleanliness'' and people around me gave a 'holier than thou' attitude. Deconstruction is WILD
Beautiful story and reunion with her father. My eyes were struggling to hold back the tears. She had me crying with you. Her poor dad must have suffered so much, but what a happy ending. Shelise you are such an amazing human with a beautiful heart. Love your shows and you too.
Shelise- have you read some of the commentary about her program, the costs and the tactics she uses? It’d a little concerning and makes me question her rationale for coming on?
Shelise, you are a wonderful interviewer. And Lydia, thank you for sharing your story! What an extraordinary journey and I have so much respect that you have successfully navigated horrific traumas and emerged as the shining person you are. Your grandmother sounds like the religious version of mothers in the medical realm who suffer from Munchausen by Proxy, inventing horrific stories about their child's nonexistent illness and subjecting children to unnecessary medical procedures (in the case of these mothers) or to terror (in your case) as a way of having people idolize her and adore her. The similarities are so striking! I just recently wrote an article about Munchausen by Proxy, so the topic is very fresh in my mind. If your grandmother had a different focus, she might have invented (or even induced) horrible illnesses and dragged you to doctors, with everyone saying what a wonderful caregiver she is, how much she's sacrificing, etc, and creating 100% dependency of the child on her. Your mother sounds more as though she has some bonafide mental illness, like clinical paranoia; and of course, she herself grew up under the destructive influence and thumb of your grandma. One question I had which I'd be interested in hearing about if you come back on the channel: what happened with your brother? Was he subjected to the same horrific messaging that you were? Did he ever end up reconnecting with your father?
Wow, this is a really interesting insight. I can absolutely see this being an explanation. And thank you for asking about my brother. That’s a really significant part of the story. We talk about it in the live we did after this interview And there are some shorts in the “honest story time” playlist about him as well.
I appreciated this story and am so glad Lydia came to this place of well-being! And I can tell she's used to talking to non-Mormans, the way she smoothly integrates explanations of things. :) I would love to hear about the deprogramming process. Sounds interesting! ...and too good to be true. Ngl, the business description sent some alarm bells going. The answers for how she's avoiding becoming too cult-like are great! Good measures to take! But not enough to make me fully comfortable-after all, "not a cult" doesn't mean "fully ethical." A google search didn't help, either. Things that would have set me at ease: 1. More information about her deprogramming process. Easy first steps someone can take, for example. Or a quick background on the theories she's drawing from. Perhaps how she first cobbled together a process that worked for her personally. 2. Something online to connect her work to that of respected experts. Where does her program fit in the conversation about neuroplasticity and such? Has she had interviews with people well-versed in psychology? Are there UA-cam videos where she discusses her approach with registered dietitians, counselors, others who share expert insight with their followers? I see another video streamed today. Maybe she'll have some more reassuring and informative things to say about her services there.
The sales pitch at the end seems a little off, just my gut feeling. I very can be wrong. Be well, and thanks for your sharing your story! A lot of trauma and beautiful that you got to reunite with family. Please keep doing good
I felt the same. I did a quick google search looking for posts and found some seriously concerning stuff on some Reddit posts addressing Lydia's former binge-eating coaching program and the newer She Center as well. I really hope vulnerable people here will do their due-diligence and see what others have had to say about their firsthand experiences before investing their money and time into it...
I’ve been told there are some Reddit posts about people’s negative experiences with her organisation. I’d love to be wrong but it all seems dodgy to me.
@@booletric yeah, I can give her the benefit of the doubt and say it might be well-intentioned but would prefer a study on these "principles" (and a description of what they are) instead of a "coaching" sales pitch. Seems like a few of this channel's guests have these kinds of things, and I can't tell if that's coming from somewhere cynical or if it's just that a lot of cult victims are more likely to fall into MLM traps because their conditioning makes that modality seem more normal than it should.
@@MRuby-qb9bd I’d love to know stats for things like that, how many people who’ve left high control groups fall into things like MLMs? But yeah from what I’ve researched of this situation a lot of people have called it a scam, but again I’d love to be wrong.
This had me crying. How terrible it must have been for the dad losing his children. Chelsie I hope you get more Satanic panic survivors on. It really seems like Satanic panic and more recent phenomena like QAnon are just ways for people to avoid confronting abuse in their own communities, churches, and families.
1:00 her mom retelling this story traumatized her for a second time and I feel as though her mom was complicit in the abuse... I can't fathom that she even repeated that detail to her. The level of powerless she felt must have been incredibly overwhelming and to relive that by hearing the story over and over again is triggering. I'm amazed how those who make it out alive are such compassionate human beings and I believe they're angels because there's no other way to explain their perseverance or ability to forgive and live peaceful lives
Shelise, so glad you called out the overenthusiastic sales pitch for her many business endeavors, it sounded culty to me too. At the end i couldn't get past the "over positive Mormon facade" that freaks me out like ballerina farm does. If she does another interview about how she actually transitioned out i would happily revise my first impression, if not, she has decided to monetize it (which is not a crime! It just sounds like the fat doctor that knows "the real" diet secrets now that he's fit). Just felt lots of grey area there compared to the authenticity of your other guests...but it was a massively captivating story right up to when she met her dad!!! I cried!!! I really hope my warning bells are wrong and she's helping people (based on science/experts) and it's not a Rich Dad, Poor Dad thing.
I also felt that. As I was listening I started feeling some alarm bells. The way she talked about her systems and principles and how she intends to share them came off very guru-y, and it makes me a little wary. Especially when she said it worked within a week and that she's holding 3 day seminars. It's sounding a lot like the beginning stories of many cultish groups
@1ACL so you didn't have any warning bells go off in your head at the end? I did say I could be freaked out because Mormons trigger me with that smiling facade thing they're taught. But I wasn't the only one creeped out, by the way. Another made a comment and this comment has already gotten a few thumbs up. I did hope I was wrong and say I want another interview....but that wasn't graceful enough for you. I certainly don't claim to be classy or graceful but it certainly couldn't hurt to try, so I'm curious how you'd go about it (assuming you won't gaslight my concerns or be toxically positive).
I felt it too. I'm trying to be really careful, but something in me is telling me there's something off about this story. I hope I'm wrong-she seems so kind, and I cried as well! But at some point, alarm bells started ringing in my head, and I can't say exactly why. Is it just the super vague and suspicious sales pitch at the end? Or am I doubting the whole story now? I don't know, and I would never want to hurt her. But I've learned to never ignore my intuition, especially when it gets triggered so strongly. So... Had to share. Nevertheless, i wish her only good things. And she's super kind and charming and likeable. And obviously noone should take my opinion cc as truth, its just my feelings.
@katmur7136 I guess I would say to trust your intuition, but maybe not to say anything publicly until you're sure. She's a "life coach" whose business it is to help people and to share what she learned through seminars, etc. So, I give her the benefit of the doubt. I can imagine that her affect is quite 'different ' due to what she experienced, and it doesn't necessarily mean she's taking advantage of people.
I appreciate that feedback! I hope you felt comforted by the answer. We help women to Deprogram. Essentially, I share the tools that gave me freedom in my life with other women so that they can be free as well ❤
@@TheSheCenterI think some people don't understand what "coaches" do? I didn't get a culty feeling from you at all. I heard enthusiasm for helping people by sharing what you learned on your crazy life journey!❤
@1ACL More like people don't trust "life coaches" because most/ all of them seem to be selling BS (after all, they typically aren't trained mental health professionals). I'm not saying that's Lydia, she could absolutely be truly helping people. It's just that her description sounded a lot like a typical "life coach" spiel to me and others. It's entirely possible that's just a coincidence because she's so enthusiastic about the work she's doing and how she's able to help others heal. I'd love to hear more about Lydia's work to understand it better because it sounds like it could be a wonderful, supportive community!
@@1ACL thank you! I’m so glad that truth shined through. I can totally appreciate that many people don’t understand coaching. But I suppose the only people that are a fit for coaching are the ones who are willing to learn new things. ✨ I appreciate your kindness!
Parental alienation at it's worst! So glad Lydia finally became aware of the truth. G Ma is the reason Mom has her issues. What a messed up little world they live in. Thanks for another great interview xox
I was raised in the Church of Christ and I remember a special service we had to go to to learn about the Satanic things happening in the world , this guy stood up there and told us all the popular music at the time was Satanic and I was so bummed, my parents freaked out and wouldn’t let me have pictures of the rock stars I liked and I would have to change the music when they were home , it was ridiculous….
Shelise, please be careful about platforming people who are **not** professionals but make money by offering services to vulnerable people. This is very concerning
Thank you Lydia for your courageous story. As a former mormon that grew up with very significant fear of possession I can identify, however, the level of your g'ma is off the charts. I'm glad you found your dad and have been able to solidify a relationship with him!
I had a godmother just like your grandmother! It felt like life was lighter after i stopped communicating with her. The part where you were reunited with your father made me cry. I am so sorry you missed out on feeling safe ❤
This was just a stunning experience! Lydia exudes such joy, even through the ugly parts of her story. Definitely cried about her sweet dad finally reuniting with his child. As always, thank you, Shelise, for your thoughtful questions and insights.
You always find the most incredibly amazing guests for your show. There are some guests in particular whose stories have literally saved me from giving up on my own path to healing. Lydia is definitely one of them. I appreciate you both so much ❤
What a beautiful story. What a beautiful person! I was sobbing at that reunion story; so glad her daughter and sister are so close now; talk about karma in the best way 🤍
Same reaction. All the "synchronicities" that happened...it just seems that clearly this was all being "guided"...just amazing. My heart is so much with that dad.....wow.
It really is such a joy. They have been best friends ever since they met. It really is hopeful and encouraging to see how despite all the lies and everything that happened that we were all brought back together.
What a great story! I cant wait to read your books. I like to write and I wrote a poem about my childhood titled "Little Angel" and got a tattoo of it. It reads, "Her tears gave her compassion. Her burdens gave her strength. Her trauma gave her understanding. She's proud of the person she became." Just wanted to share that. :)
The fact she believed her whole childhood that her dad was horrendous and that he turned out to be absolutely amazing. The emotional manipulation and psychological trauma that comes from that alone is beyond sad for both her and her dad. He doesn’t deserve any of it. I seriously hope she has gone no contact with her mom and grandma.
I recently have gotten no contact. I stayed connected for a long time and hopes to reconnect with my brother, but that does not look hopeful at this point.
Lydia, you precious dear! Your story is extremely powerful! It is truly miraculous that you were able to escape your traumatic family situation. Their paranoia must have been overwhelming for you! Interesting that you studied Psychology! So happy you and your daddy reunited! All the very best! ❤
Omg, I have only watched a few minutes up to now, but it feels like this is my story! My mother got married to a Mexican and my grandmother disapproved heavily of him. Both my mother and my grandmother were extremely ‘spiritual’ in a negative sense and started saying that my father was practicing black magic and wanted to kill us and steal me from my mother. I was also basically kidnapped away from the Mexican side of my family when I was around 2 years old (my mother had a long custody battle and ended up just never being there when my father was supposed to visit and refusing any calls or presents he would make and she had an advantage being Swiss in Europe and him being Mexican) She destroyed most of the things she had had in the apartment with my father because “they were cursed” and she told me that he was doing black magic on me whenever I had a nightmare or got sick. I spent my childhood afraid of evil spirits and black magic. I grew up with my mother and grandmother and when I finally got the courage to investigate more (after a life time of being taught to be extremely afraid) I was 22. When my mother found out that I was in touch with my father she literally made me chose whether I wanted to be in touch with him or with her. I have not been in touch with her in almost 4 years now.
A beautiful soul that turned an emotionally abusive and traumatic childhood into a journey of healing others. This world is much lighter with you in it, Lydia. ❤️ I’m excited to look up your program!
I can so relate to her comment… I was not loved growing up but I believed that I was loved. My family operated in that way too so it took reaching adulthood to fully understand and unpack how all the adults in my life were self serving. And they would gaslight and lovebomb with words “you’re the most important person to me!!” “Our family is the best and your friends are cr*p!”” So I really had to learn to believe my internal experience over their narrative.
I would love to attend one of her workshops. I was born and raised in a cult as well and escaped when I was 21 with my infant son . A year later, I got stuck in a relationship with an extremely abusive, narcissistic older man. My brain feel like a toddler from the mind control in the cult in was so easy for him to take advantage of me. I was stuck with him for 8 yrs before I was able to get away from him. Every day is a struggle but I work hard on my health and mental state so that I can be a good mother for my kids.
You're already doing a FABULOUS & FANTASTIC JOB! You recognize the problem & the danger it could cause & many ppl say that's half the battle already! But thinking & worrying & working to be. Good Mother, shows me VERY CLEARLY that u are in fact a GOOD MOTHER! You love your children & are trying to make their lives better in every way u can & that is ALL u can do, just give them that unconditional love & support, & reach out for help when u need it! Don't let pride or the mistaken belief that asking for help belittles you or your worth or image. It DOES NOT! It makes u bad as$! & Also remember there is NO SUCH THING as a perfect Mom! They are Myths & do NOT exist! So don't kill yourself trying to be a perfect Mom💕💕💕💕 & don't beat yourself up about it!
The courage, wisdom and perspective that Lydia brings to dealing with these cult-like dynamics is so important. Grateful to her, those from this channel (including Shelise, of course) and so many other guests. Speechless. That’s not common for me. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
1:16:21 thank you SO MUCH for asking this… thanks to watching your UA-cam channel I have learned to notice red flags. As your guest described her program I thought… uh oh, this could go in a culty direction. I appreciate you!
Yes! I was with her until the very end. Now all of a sudden I’m wondering if she’s the fantastic charismatic storyteller who’s now making money from a book and a program, etc. Was any of this real? This sort of thing does happen, so I believe her, but I also wonder how anyone could independently verify this story.
Thanks for the podcast and kudos for having the courage to share. It was exciting to hear that you met your father. I wish you many more happy years together.
I literally started crying one minute into this interview. Unbelievable, but I DO believe you. You ladies are taking these horiffic experiences and using them to help teach, acknowledge, and inform society of the terrible things twisted religion can put people through. ❤😢
Wow, this story absolutely broke me. Your poor dad, brother & you! I am so glad you broke out of that mental abuse cycle and reunited with your father. 🤍
Such a horrific story. Lydia I'm beyond sorry you were treated this way. I'm flabbergasted. If it's of any use, I feel like this is adjacent in many ways to Munchausen by proxy abuse. I suspect you might find helpful and supportive community with folks who have survived that abuse. ❤
Grandma & Mom most likely have a Personality Disorder called Histrionic Personality Disorder. I'm so sorry you suffered like this during childhood & even now, as an adult. Help for recovery of this childhood trauma is available. Wishing you recovery & peace.
My mom has that and muncheusen by proxy and raised me and my brother Evangelical even though we were jewish. Having a mom with histrionic personality disorder is hell.
Thank you Lydia for being vulnerable and willing to share your story. Sharing your story will hopefully help someone else identify and heal from what they’ve been through too.
@ agreed! Growing up in an evangelical/pentacostal church, people were manipulated so much by Santanic panic. I remember horrifying (untrue) stories from our pastor even as a little girl.
Oh wow! I’m so glad Shelise has brought this group together. I really had never met other people that lived through this until I started telling my story. 🙏🏾
This feels so abusive. I am surprised legal or criminal action wasn’t taken against her mother and grandmother. Also, Charlize good call with the cult question at the end. I got nervous as well, when she was describing her program.
Very interesting story. But her new business sounds a lot like an cult/pseudoscience/snake oil type of thing... I don't know. Weird. Imersive experiences... very culty thing. I checked out the website, and nothing tells you anything about whatever is the method she's using, all very secretive. And the terms of service also... Anyway, maybe it's just me being paranoid.
Wow- I would love to hear more from Lydia! It sounds like she is still in contact with her mother and grandmother?? How did she work through that relationship while deconstructing? Also - glad to hear mention of the Mormon founding of Las Vegas. I grew up there and was always told that it was Mormons who really ran the town. Maybe not a story for this channel, but would love to hear more about that too! Thank you Shelise and Lydia! Another terrific video! ❤
I found it very relatable, the situation where you hear yourself telling someone what happened when you were a kid, and realizing in real time, that it does actually sound significantly worse than you’d maybe fully realized, before that moment 💜⚡️
I want to say thank you Lydia for coming out with your story and letting us know the truths of such groups and cults. I know how you feel through similar trauma as well. But I bravely watched the whole video since I am still learning to heal my r"pe experiences, that being said I give you so much love and credit to tell the tales of horror of the lds and Mormon cults. I hope your father also heals from being a victim of such bad rumors. It's really sad that you two were so horrifically abused like that and the racism is absolutely mouth dropping and heart stopping. No one deserves this.
My god! What a crazy story! Thank you for your strength. I think it’s amazing that you can tell the story and still smile. People say that to me all the time and I’ve never really understood why it’s amazing… I just try to be happy. I try to do everyday better than the last one. Another crazy tidbit - my temple name is Lydia and I’m just so happy that it’s a name that I can put in with strength. I know a real Lydia now. Thank you you again * 1000! ❤
she uses the aspirated wh- sound very aspirated what where while when, which are very rare in most dialects. I wonder if this has to do with any cult thing.
Ngl her promising at the end that she's definitely not doing a cult doesn't fill me with confidence. Her website is so polished but lacks any real information about what the method is. And curing herself of an eating disorder in a week? Absolutely not. I'm sorry. I spent 3 months in a psych hospital about 2 years ago and I was on a ward with ED patients. EDs are so detrimental, your brain literally starts having a trauma response to food. There's no "life hack" that can fix you. Almost all of the ED patients who were there when I arrived were still there when I left. One girl was 20 and in the previous 3 years, she had spent a total of 6 weeks not in some hospital. Her story truly is heartbreaking and I do believe her, but I don't trust her after her pitch at the end
This story is absolutely bonkers. I’ve read/listened to enough cult-related stuff, that I wasn’t immediately going to write it off that he actually could be the leader of a satanic sex cult. The likelihood is never 0%. But an hour in, I’m instead *infuriated* that her mom and grandma were so manipulative and dishonest. And for what? It must have been so satisfying for her to watch their house of cards fall.
What a compelling story and so glad that Lydia could reunite with her father. I was in my early 30s during the Satanic Panic of the early 90s which ruined so many people's lives. Thank you Lydia and Shelise.
What a complicated heart wrenching story! I cried when you told about the reunion with your dad. Curious to know if and what kind of relationship you have with your mother today? Ultimately how she reacted to your getting in touch with your dad? Also you mentioned books- could you write the names and where they can be purchased? Best of luck on your new chapter. Loved your Linda listen moment. Resonated with me too..
Wow, have to say how Lydia’s story broke my heart in so many ways, but she found her truth, and in the grand scheme of things that is the goal. Would love to hear more about her journey with her dad and how much progress has happened (unless he has crossed). Certainly have a lot of anger towards the lies, it was absolutely heartbreaking that so many years were lost for both of them, but no matter, the truth set them both free. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Thank you for sharing your story Lydia, it sounds like you not only found truth, you are helping others to do the same.💕👍
Wow this story is wild! Thank you for sharing Lydia. I know of some oddly familiar satanic panic stories that have been shared by BYU alumni about satanic rituals and abuse with children. Makes me wonder if those are remnants from your time there! I’m so glad you had such a beautiful reconnection with your dad and family. Good luck in all of your future endeavors. It sounds wonderful and much needed ❤
Sooooooo, for $1,997 I’ll be rid of my 30yr old eating disorder? Cool story, bro. If you had the CURE to all that ails us, why charge so little? There’d be a several year waitlist for sick women and men to be treated!
I grew up in the 80s and rember the Satanic Panic. I remember that crazy trail in California with the ridiculous accua accusations, the "fear" of Dungeons & Dragons, and reverse lyrics. But I never heard of Asians being linked to it.
Agree. They told stories about my father too, though not satanism. But not one adult, not one, not even the police who questioned him for child abuse when I was 16, not one adult asked me if I had been SA'd. I hadn't. But if they truly believed the story, then why didn't my safety matter to them?
💝💝💝💝From Angele: You are so beautiful! Inside and out. (BTW: Love those earrings!!!)! This is such a totally twisted story. It is inconceivable how these stories were given to you. I am so sorry that you went through this trauma. I acknowledge you on the hard work you did on your healing journey. Thank you for sharing.
So interesting about how she knew her father wasn't bad but also knew she was going to die the day she met him. From what I understand this is the lower parts of the brain and the frontal cortex competing. This is what early brain washing does. Thanks for telling your story Lydia.
I have never been a member of the Mormon church nor do I know anyone who is. I find these stories just unbelievable! Not that I don't believe them but I just have never had an experience remotely similar to. I was raised in a home with both of my parents. We had some issues but nothing like what I see here. I can't imagine having to grow up with the things y'all have! I'm praying for healing and love for all of you!!! People like me will never understand. Not because we don't want to but because we just don't know! But I care. I truly wish y'all could just say bye to the religion and move on. But then you lose your family and friends that you have known all your life? Im just very sorry that you went through these things. It's heartbreaking! 🫂 You are all so strong and I admire your courage!
I'm sorry that Mrs. Knight didn't have more positive experiences in her childhood. She seems to be very happy now. It's wonderful that her dad can have relief.
Wow the beginning just made my jaw drop. 2:06 I can already tell this woman has been through it. You’re so beautiful and even though I’m only 3 Minutes in. Already know this beautiful woman is a strong strong woman !! 🙏🏽❣️
This poor woman and her father who lost out on 25 years due to grandma n mom who lied about everything that's so flucked up about all this. I'm shocked they both survived the lies about everything
Reuniting with my dad has been one of the most beautiful choice of my life. We were just texting this morning about a recipe he shared with me. 🥹 the double memoir "Split" goes deep into his story.
@TheSheCenter I'm looking into getting help with some truma that happened to me as a kid, so it does not hurt what I have going with my family now but don't know how to do it
Well, that was, uh, a lot. Just all the best to you on whatever the next chapter looks like, and all the power to you empowering people to think for themselves.
I have a stepson with a bio mom and grandma and aunt with VERY similar shared delusions as to your experience. I can’t even begin to understand what’s going on in their heads. There is also no mental diagnosis as of yet and I would love to know what disorder they have. Not that I would ever be privy to it.
This is Lydia Knight :) thank you for all of these insightful comments. I really appreciate being able to share. ✨Big thanks to Shelise. You are an amazing host doing really important work in the world.
Thank you for sharing your story 🙇♀️
Thank you so much for sharing your story! You are so incredible, inspirational, & courageous!
I am so glad that you were willing to answer the question about your organization and what you do to keep it from turning into something else. I was totally thinking it and I can easily see how that would be upsetting to be asked it but you handled it very maturely. :-)
Thank you for sharing your story. I got chills in the best way possible when you got to the part of reuniting with your dad. This would make an incredible movie or TV show.
Thank you for sharing! It is incredible and life changing so many people. May you continue your journey and keep helping people, this world needs it dearly. Take care!
“I was not loved when I was growing up but I believed that I was loved.” WOW! That really hit home. Lydia I wish the best life for you.
Thank you ❤ that means a lot.
With my family being a cult around my narcissistic mom I also believed I was loved but I wasn’t. In my case my dad would have saved us if he’d left. I now know that wasn’t love. I was alive in the 80’s and remember satanic panic well. All the people accused of things that didn’t even exist. Had no idea being an ex evangelical in the south the the satanic panic touched Mormonism
That really hit me also. Great story, Great strength!
I hope all C2C guests know how much we appreciate the vulnerability, honesty, and strength involved in sharing their experiences.
Thank you, Lydia, for sharing your journey through life. Your ability to share your experiences with such candid honesty, eloquence, humour, and compassion is incredible.
And thank you, Shelise, for giving others a platform to speak and centering the voices of survivors.
Yes to all of this! What beautiful gratitude. I'm so glad this brought us together.
Your comments are so well stated!!!! Thank you for them.
Lydia, you are such a beautiful soul. You speak so eloquently. Thanks for your bold and vulnerable share. And wow, you're so BEAUTIFUL inside and out. Thank you for the work you're doing!
SHALISE, fellow exmo here. Born and raised in Provo Utah. I have been so engrossed and engaged by your channel. I absolutely LOVE what you and your husband are doing. You are an amazing host. Keep revealing these stories! It's important work. THANK YOU❤
@@noelgawthrop9879 this is such a thoughtful comment! Thank you! I’m so glad that we are here together. I went to BYU and totally get the Provo culture 😆 appreciate the encouragement!
I lived through the Satanic Panic, and it wasn’t just Asians. I remember playing with a Jewish friend, and a neighbor asking why I was playing with someone who worshiped satan and drank Christian children’s blood. I’d never heard the blood libel myth. Thank goodness we stood up to them and told them that they sounded insane. It was a terrible time. I’m so glad Lydia not just survived, but is now thriving.
It's not a myth
Thank you for mentioning that! Yes, it seemed that anyone who wasn’t white and Christian was categorized as a satan worshiper 🫠 i’m so glad you stood up against it!
@lindsjg313 Blood Libel is a myth. Specifically, a myth used to justify hating jewish people.
Such a unique story. Thank you for sharing. I can't even fathom lying to a child like you were. You have grown so much.
This is one of the most horrible stories of mental abuse. I imagine that as a child if she did get close to a friend at school and tried to talk about anything at all would result in a phone call and questions and another rapid move to another place. It is amazing that Lydia can sit there and sound so strong and normal!!!!
It totally did. I'm always so impressed when people talk about having friends from elementary school because I was not able to stay connected to anyone. And thank you! I'm grateful that I found a process that I've been able to share with so many others about coming out on the other side strong and normal :)
I am still trying to work out my religious trauma, both from my mom's beliefs, her church, her in-laws' church's beliefs and my own fucked up church.
The way I GASPED when you connected Asian people as 'Satan Worshipers' during the Satanic Panic. I have memories of living in the deep south and there being LOTS of side eye and whispers with anything having to do with Asian culture; restaurants, anime, manga, heck even the nail salons. There was always this miasma of 'uncleanliness'' and people around me gave a 'holier than thou' attitude. Deconstruction is WILD
Beautiful story and reunion with her father. My eyes were struggling to hold back the tears. She had me crying with you. Her poor dad must have suffered so much, but what a happy ending. Shelise you are such an amazing human with a beautiful heart. Love your shows and you too.
It really means a lot to share the story with you. Thank you for your gratitude and kindness ❤
Shelise- have you read some of the commentary about her program, the costs and the tactics she uses? It’d a little concerning and makes me question her rationale for coming on?
Yeah this woman seems not to be a professional but she's offering what can only be understood as therapy. VERY concerning
Shelise, you are a wonderful interviewer. And Lydia, thank you for sharing your story! What an extraordinary journey and I have so much respect that you have successfully navigated horrific traumas and emerged as the shining person you are.
Your grandmother sounds like the religious version of mothers in the medical realm who suffer from Munchausen by Proxy, inventing horrific stories about their child's nonexistent illness and subjecting children to unnecessary medical procedures (in the case of these mothers) or to terror (in your case) as a way of having people idolize her and adore her. The similarities are so striking! I just recently wrote an article about Munchausen by Proxy, so the topic is very fresh in my mind. If your grandmother had a different focus, she might have invented (or even induced) horrible illnesses and dragged you to doctors, with everyone saying what a wonderful caregiver she is, how much she's sacrificing, etc, and creating 100% dependency of the child on her. Your mother sounds more as though she has some bonafide mental illness, like clinical paranoia; and of course, she herself grew up under the destructive influence and thumb of your grandma.
One question I had which I'd be interested in hearing about if you come back on the channel: what happened with your brother? Was he subjected to the same horrific messaging that you were? Did he ever end up reconnecting with your father?
Exactly questions and insight! I would also love to see a part 2 with Lydia
Exactly this. I was thinking the same thing re: Munchausen by Proxy.
Wow, this is a really interesting insight. I can absolutely see this being an explanation.
And thank you for asking about my brother. That’s a really significant part of the story.
We talk about it in the live we did after this interview And there are some shorts in the “honest story time” playlist about him as well.
I appreciated this story and am so glad Lydia came to this place of well-being! And I can tell she's used to talking to non-Mormans, the way she smoothly integrates explanations of things. :)
I would love to hear about the deprogramming process. Sounds interesting! ...and too good to be true.
Ngl, the business description sent some alarm bells going. The answers for how she's avoiding becoming too cult-like are great! Good measures to take! But not enough to make me fully comfortable-after all, "not a cult" doesn't mean "fully ethical." A google search didn't help, either.
Things that would have set me at ease:
1. More information about her deprogramming process. Easy first steps someone can take, for example. Or a quick background on the theories she's drawing from. Perhaps how she first cobbled together a process that worked for her personally.
2. Something online to connect her work to that of respected experts. Where does her program fit in the conversation about neuroplasticity and such? Has she had interviews with people well-versed in psychology? Are there UA-cam videos where she discusses her approach with registered dietitians, counselors, others who share expert insight with their followers?
I see another video streamed today. Maybe she'll have some more reassuring and informative things to say about her services there.
The sales pitch at the end seems a little off, just my gut feeling. I very can be wrong. Be well, and thanks for your sharing your story! A lot of trauma and beautiful that you got to reunite with family. Please keep doing good
I felt the same. I did a quick google search looking for posts and found some seriously concerning stuff on some Reddit posts addressing Lydia's former binge-eating coaching program and the newer She Center as well. I really hope vulnerable people here will do their due-diligence and see what others have had to say about their firsthand experiences before investing their money and time into it...
MLM vibes. Yup.
I’ve been told there are some Reddit posts about people’s negative experiences with her organisation. I’d love to be wrong but it all seems dodgy to me.
@@booletric yeah, I can give her the benefit of the doubt and say it might be well-intentioned but would prefer a study on these "principles" (and a description of what they are) instead of a "coaching" sales pitch.
Seems like a few of this channel's guests have these kinds of things, and I can't tell if that's coming from somewhere cynical or if it's just that a lot of cult victims are more likely to fall into MLM traps because their conditioning makes that modality seem more normal than it should.
@@MRuby-qb9bd I’d love to know stats for things like that, how many people who’ve left high control groups fall into things like MLMs? But yeah from what I’ve researched of this situation a lot of people have called it a scam, but again I’d love to be wrong.
$4,700.00 not including travel or accommodation... the story made me cry but the business seems sketchy
This had me crying. How terrible it must have been for the dad losing his children.
Chelsie I hope you get more Satanic panic survivors on. It really seems like Satanic panic and more recent phenomena like QAnon are just ways for people to avoid confronting abuse in their own communities, churches, and families.
That's the connection I found so striking (like a slap to my forehead) - the 'othering' is just a way to avoid attention to their own awful selves
1:00 her mom retelling this story traumatized her for a second time and I feel as though her mom was complicit in the abuse... I can't fathom that she even repeated that detail to her. The level of powerless she felt must have been incredibly overwhelming and to relive that by hearing the story over and over again is triggering. I'm amazed how those who make it out alive are such compassionate human beings and I believe they're angels because there's no other way to explain their perseverance or ability to forgive and live peaceful lives
Shelise, so glad you called out the overenthusiastic sales pitch for her many business endeavors, it sounded culty to me too. At the end i couldn't get past the "over positive Mormon facade" that freaks me out like ballerina farm does. If she does another interview about how she actually transitioned out i would happily revise my first impression, if not, she has decided to monetize it (which is not a crime! It just sounds like the fat doctor that knows "the real" diet secrets now that he's fit). Just felt lots of grey area there compared to the authenticity of your other guests...but it was a massively captivating story right up to when she met her dad!!! I cried!!! I really hope my warning bells are wrong and she's helping people (based on science/experts) and it's not a Rich Dad, Poor Dad thing.
Can you offer her a little bit of grace? She's been through hell.
I also felt that. As I was listening I started feeling some alarm bells. The way she talked about her systems and principles and how she intends to share them came off very guru-y, and it makes me a little wary. Especially when she said it worked within a week and that she's holding 3 day seminars. It's sounding a lot like the beginning stories of many cultish groups
@1ACL so you didn't have any warning bells go off in your head at the end? I did say I could be freaked out because Mormons trigger me with that smiling facade thing they're taught. But I wasn't the only one creeped out, by the way. Another made a comment and this comment has already gotten a few thumbs up. I did hope I was wrong and say I want another interview....but that wasn't graceful enough for you. I certainly don't claim to be classy or graceful but it certainly couldn't hurt to try, so I'm curious how you'd go about it (assuming you won't gaslight my concerns or be toxically positive).
I felt it too. I'm trying to be really careful, but something in me is telling me there's something off about this story. I hope I'm wrong-she seems so kind, and I cried as well! But at some point, alarm bells started ringing in my head, and I can't say exactly why. Is it just the super vague and suspicious sales pitch at the end? Or am I doubting the whole story now? I don't know, and I would never want to hurt her. But I've learned to never ignore my intuition, especially when it gets triggered so strongly. So... Had to share. Nevertheless, i wish her only good things. And she's super kind and charming and likeable. And obviously noone should take my opinion cc as truth, its just my feelings.
@katmur7136 I guess I would say to trust your intuition, but maybe not to say anything publicly until you're sure. She's a "life coach" whose business it is to help people and to share what she learned through seminars, etc. So, I give her the benefit of the doubt. I can imagine that her affect is quite 'different ' due to what she experienced, and it doesn't necessarily mean she's taking advantage of people.
I’m so glad you asked her about creating a cult! The beginning explanation she gave for what she does made me very uncomfortable until you asked.
I appreciate that feedback! I hope you felt comforted by the answer. We help women to Deprogram. Essentially, I share the tools that gave me freedom in my life with other women so that they can be free as well ❤
@@TheSheCenterI think some people don't understand what "coaches" do? I didn't get a culty feeling from you at all. I heard enthusiasm for helping people by sharing what you learned on your crazy life journey!❤
@1ACL More like people don't trust "life coaches" because most/ all of them seem to be selling BS (after all, they typically aren't trained mental health professionals). I'm not saying that's Lydia, she could absolutely be truly helping people. It's just that her description sounded a lot like a typical "life coach" spiel to me and others. It's entirely possible that's just a coincidence because she's so enthusiastic about the work she's doing and how she's able to help others heal. I'd love to hear more about Lydia's work to understand it better because it sounds like it could be a wonderful, supportive community!
@@1ACL thank you! I’m so glad that truth shined through. I can totally appreciate that many people don’t understand coaching. But I suppose the only people that are a fit for coaching are the ones who are willing to learn new things. ✨ I appreciate your kindness!
Parental alienation at it's worst! So glad Lydia finally became aware of the truth.
G Ma is the reason Mom has her issues. What a messed up little world they live in.
Thanks for another great interview xox
I was raised in the Church of Christ and I remember a special service we had to go to to learn about the Satanic things happening in the world , this guy stood up there and told us all the popular music at the time was Satanic and I was so bummed, my parents freaked out and wouldn’t let me have pictures of the rock stars I liked and I would have to change the music when they were home , it was ridiculous….
Shelise, please be careful about platforming people who are **not** professionals but make money by offering services to vulnerable people. This is very concerning
Thank you Lydia for your courageous story. As a former mormon that grew up with very significant fear of possession I can identify, however, the level of your g'ma is off the charts. I'm glad you found your dad and have been able to solidify a relationship with him!
I had a godmother just like your grandmother! It felt like life was lighter after i stopped communicating with her.
The part where you were reunited with your father made me cry. I am so sorry you missed out on feeling safe ❤
This was just a stunning experience! Lydia exudes such joy, even through the ugly parts of her story. Definitely cried about her sweet dad finally reuniting with his child. As always, thank you, Shelise, for your thoughtful questions and insights.
You always find the most incredibly amazing guests for your show. There are some guests in particular whose stories have literally saved me from giving up on my own path to healing. Lydia is definitely one of them. I appreciate you both so much ❤
That is so beautiful to hear! Keep going. It really does get better and life gets more fun. ❤
What a beautiful story. What a beautiful person! I was sobbing at that reunion story; so glad her daughter and sister are so close now; talk about karma in the best way 🤍
Same reaction. All the "synchronicities" that happened...it just seems that clearly this was all being "guided"...just amazing. My heart is so much with that dad.....wow.
It really is such a joy. They have been best friends ever since they met. It really is hopeful and encouraging to see how despite all the lies and everything that happened that we were all brought back together.
What a great story! I cant wait to read your books. I like to write and I wrote a poem about my childhood titled "Little Angel" and got a tattoo of it. It reads, "Her tears gave her compassion. Her burdens gave her strength. Her trauma gave her understanding. She's proud of the person she became." Just wanted to share that. :)
The fact she believed her whole childhood that her dad was horrendous and that he turned out to be absolutely amazing. The emotional manipulation and psychological trauma that comes from that alone is beyond sad for both her and her dad. He doesn’t deserve any of it. I seriously hope she has gone no contact with her mom and grandma.
I recently have gotten no contact. I stayed connected for a long time and hopes to reconnect with my brother, but that does not look hopeful at this point.
Lydia, you precious dear! Your story is extremely powerful! It is truly miraculous that you were able to escape your traumatic family situation. Their paranoia must have been overwhelming for you! Interesting that you studied Psychology! So happy you and your daddy reunited! All the very best! ❤
Thank you! I am receiving all this kindness and appreciate you.
Incredible story! I’d love to know what her relationships are like now with mom and Oma!
Omg, I have only watched a few minutes up to now, but it feels like this is my story! My mother got married to a Mexican and my grandmother disapproved heavily of him. Both my mother and my grandmother were extremely ‘spiritual’ in a negative sense and started saying that my father was practicing black magic and wanted to kill us and steal me from my mother. I was also basically kidnapped away from the Mexican side of my family when I was around 2 years old (my mother had a long custody battle and ended up just never being there when my father was supposed to visit and refusing any calls or presents he would make and she had an advantage being Swiss in Europe and him being Mexican) She destroyed most of the things she had had in the apartment with my father because “they were cursed” and she told me that he was doing black magic on me whenever I had a nightmare or got sick. I spent my childhood afraid of evil spirits and black magic. I grew up with my mother and grandmother and when I finally got the courage to investigate more (after a life time of being taught to be extremely afraid) I was 22. When my mother found out that I was in touch with my father she literally made me chose whether I wanted to be in touch with him or with her. I have not been in touch with her in almost 4 years now.
Wow!! That’s awful! I’m so sorry!
A beautiful soul that turned an emotionally abusive and traumatic childhood into a journey of healing others. This world is much lighter with you in it, Lydia. ❤️ I’m excited to look up your program!
I can so relate to her comment… I was not loved growing up but I believed that I was loved. My family operated in that way too so it took reaching adulthood to fully understand and unpack how all the adults in my life were self serving. And they would gaslight and lovebomb with words “you’re the most important person to me!!” “Our family is the best and your friends are cr*p!”” So I really had to learn to believe my internal experience over their narrative.
Celebrating your choice to value your internal experience! That's not always easy with a loud narrative happening at the same time.
@@TheSheCenter thank you dear ❤ it wasn’t easy and took many years.
I would love to attend one of her workshops. I was born and raised in a cult as well and escaped when I was 21 with my infant son . A year later, I got stuck in a relationship with an extremely abusive, narcissistic older man. My brain feel like a toddler from the mind control in the cult in was so easy for him to take advantage of me. I was stuck with him for 8 yrs before I was able to get away from him. Every day is a struggle but I work hard on my health and mental state so that I can be a good mother for my kids.
You're already doing a FABULOUS & FANTASTIC JOB! You recognize the problem & the danger it could cause & many ppl say that's half the battle already! But thinking & worrying & working to be. Good Mother, shows me VERY CLEARLY that u are in fact a GOOD MOTHER! You love your children & are trying to make their lives better in every way u can & that is ALL u can do, just give them that unconditional love & support, & reach out for help when u need it! Don't let pride or the mistaken belief that asking for help belittles you or your worth or image. It DOES NOT! It makes u bad as$! & Also remember there is NO SUCH THING as a perfect Mom! They are Myths & do NOT exist! So don't kill yourself trying to be a perfect Mom💕💕💕💕 & don't beat yourself up about it!
@@Amber-yq9ee❤
The courage, wisdom and perspective that Lydia brings to dealing with these cult-like dynamics is so important. Grateful to her, those from this channel (including Shelise, of course) and so many other guests. Speechless. That’s not common for me. Thank you so much for sharing your story.
1:16:21 thank you SO MUCH for asking this… thanks to watching your UA-cam channel I have learned to notice red flags. As your guest described her program I thought… uh oh, this could go in a culty direction. I appreciate you!
Yes! I was with her until the very end. Now all of a sudden I’m wondering if she’s the fantastic charismatic storyteller who’s now making money from a book and a program, etc. Was any of this real? This sort of thing does happen, so I believe her, but I also wonder how anyone could independently verify this story.
This was an incredible interview! So glad to see Lydia's story a powerfully positive following a horrendous way of living. Thanks both of you!
Thanks for the podcast and kudos for having the courage to share. It was exciting to hear that you met your father. I wish you many more happy years together.
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Oh no sounds like she might start her own cult.
I literally started crying one minute into this interview. Unbelievable, but I DO believe you. You ladies are taking these horiffic experiences and using them to help teach, acknowledge, and inform society of the terrible things twisted religion can put people through. ❤😢
Me to hurts my heart 😢
Oh... Your poor Dad! I got chills when you mentioned your meditation. I'm so glad you had a second chance. ❤
Wow, this story absolutely broke me. Your poor dad, brother & you! I am so glad you broke out of that mental abuse cycle and reunited with your father. 🤍
Such a horrific story. Lydia I'm beyond sorry you were treated this way. I'm flabbergasted.
If it's of any use, I feel like this is adjacent in many ways to Munchausen by proxy abuse. I suspect you might find helpful and supportive community with folks who have survived that abuse. ❤
Grandma & Mom most likely have a Personality Disorder called Histrionic Personality Disorder. I'm so sorry you suffered like this during childhood & even now, as an adult. Help for recovery of this childhood trauma is available. Wishing you recovery & peace.
My mom has that and muncheusen by proxy and raised me and my brother Evangelical even though we were jewish. Having a mom with histrionic personality disorder is hell.
Thank you for sharing this. I appreciate that perspective.
Thank you Lydia for being vulnerable and willing to share your story. Sharing your story will hopefully help someone else identify and heal from what they’ve been through too.
Yes! So many people in the 80s believed this or believe a new version of it now. I think we should be talking about it way more!
@ agreed! Growing up in an evangelical/pentacostal church, people were manipulated so much by Santanic panic. I remember horrifying (untrue) stories from our pastor even as a little girl.
Aspiring to be more like Lydia everyday.
What a strong and intelligent women she is✨
Hello ex Mormon satanic panic survivor here. Thank you so much for Sharing your story.
Oh wow! I’m so glad Shelise has brought this group together. I really had never met other people that lived through this until I started telling my story. 🙏🏾
This one made me cry! I love hearing about her dad! So beautiful! Love and Light to your guests, followers, and the C2C team/family!
This feels so abusive. I am surprised legal or criminal action wasn’t taken against her mother and grandmother. Also, Charlize good call with the cult question at the end. I got nervous as well, when she was describing her program.
That totally makes sense! I hope you were set at ease about my program. 😆
This story is absolutely unbelievable and incredible - BEST LINDA LISTEN EVER!!! Love it!!! Go Lydia!! Thank you for sharing, Shelise.
Very interesting story. But her new business sounds a lot like an cult/pseudoscience/snake oil type of thing... I don't know. Weird. Imersive experiences... very culty thing. I checked out the website, and nothing tells you anything about whatever is the method she's using, all very secretive. And the terms of service also... Anyway, maybe it's just me being paranoid.
Wow- I would love to hear more from Lydia! It sounds like she is still in contact with her mother and grandmother?? How did she work through that relationship while deconstructing?
Also - glad to hear mention of the Mormon founding of Las Vegas. I grew up there and was always told that it was Mormons who really ran the town. Maybe not a story for this channel, but would love to hear more about that too!
Thank you Shelise and Lydia! Another terrific video! ❤
Wow. Some of these people will be going down and not up in the afterlife. This is child abuse. What a together lady! Thank you Lydia ❤
I found it very relatable, the situation where you hear yourself telling someone what happened when you were a kid, and realizing in real time, that it does actually sound significantly worse than you’d maybe fully realized, before that moment
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Yes! It’s so important for us to tell our own stories and not have them told for us. I love that this part stood out. It was a real turning point.
I want to say thank you Lydia for coming out with your story and letting us know the truths of such groups and cults. I know how you feel through similar trauma as well. But I bravely watched the whole video since I am still learning to heal my r"pe experiences, that being said I give you so much love and credit to tell the tales of horror of the lds and Mormon cults. I hope your father also heals from being a victim of such bad rumors. It's really sad that you two were so horrifically abused like that and the racism is absolutely mouth dropping and heart stopping. No one deserves this.
Amazing interview and so glad you chose to share this with us all ❤
My god! What a crazy story! Thank you for your strength. I think it’s amazing that you can tell the story and still smile. People say that to me all the time and I’ve never really understood why it’s amazing… I just try to be happy. I try to do everyday better than the last one. Another crazy tidbit - my temple name is Lydia and I’m just so happy that it’s a name that I can put in with strength. I know a real Lydia now. Thank you you again * 1000! ❤
I love this so much! Going through the temple I wondered who else out there was given the name Lydia. Thank you for sharing!
she uses the aspirated wh- sound very aspirated what where while when, which are very rare in most dialects. I wonder if this has to do with any cult thing.
Wow, just wow! Incredible journey you have been on. Thank you for sharing
Ngl her promising at the end that she's definitely not doing a cult doesn't fill me with confidence. Her website is so polished but lacks any real information about what the method is. And curing herself of an eating disorder in a week? Absolutely not. I'm sorry. I spent 3 months in a psych hospital about 2 years ago and I was on a ward with ED patients. EDs are so detrimental, your brain literally starts having a trauma response to food. There's no "life hack" that can fix you. Almost all of the ED patients who were there when I arrived were still there when I left. One girl was 20 and in the previous 3 years, she had spent a total of 6 weeks not in some hospital.
Her story truly is heartbreaking and I do believe her, but I don't trust her after her pitch at the end
Thank you so much for telling your story, this is such a wonderful end unpacking it all and helping others ❤
This story is absolutely bonkers. I’ve read/listened to enough cult-related stuff, that I wasn’t immediately going to write it off that he actually could be the leader of a satanic sex cult. The likelihood is never 0%.
But an hour in, I’m instead *infuriated* that her mom and grandma were so manipulative and dishonest. And for what?
It must have been so satisfying for her to watch their house of cards fall.
What a compelling story and so glad that Lydia could reunite with her father. I was in my early 30s during the Satanic Panic of the early 90s which ruined so many people's lives. Thank you Lydia and Shelise.
What a complicated heart wrenching story! I cried when you told about the reunion with your dad. Curious to know if and what kind of relationship you have with your mother today? Ultimately how she reacted to your getting in touch with your dad?
Also you mentioned books- could you write the names and where they can be purchased?
Best of luck on your new chapter. Loved your Linda listen moment. Resonated with me too..
Liked. Shared. Commented. Sent the algorithm out to rescue people who’ve been misled about their own past.
Wow, have to say how Lydia’s story broke my heart in so many ways, but she found her truth, and in the grand scheme of things that is the goal. Would love to hear more about her journey with her dad and how much progress has happened (unless he has crossed). Certainly have a lot of anger towards the lies, it was absolutely heartbreaking that so many years were lost for both of them, but no matter, the truth set them both free. We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Thank you for sharing your story Lydia, it sounds like you not only found truth, you are helping others to do the same.💕👍
this is such an amazing episode. oh my god. i’m crying
Wow this story is wild! Thank you for sharing Lydia. I know of some oddly familiar satanic panic stories that have been shared by BYU alumni about satanic rituals and abuse with children. Makes me wonder if those are remnants from your time there! I’m so glad you had such a beautiful reconnection with your dad and family. Good luck in all of your future endeavors. It sounds wonderful and much needed ❤
Sooooooo, for $1,997 I’ll be rid of my 30yr old eating disorder? Cool story, bro. If you had the CURE to all that ails us, why charge so little? There’d be a several year waitlist for sick women and men to be treated!
I grew up in the 80s and rember the Satanic Panic. I remember that crazy trail in California with the ridiculous accua accusations, the "fear" of Dungeons & Dragons, and reverse lyrics.
But I never heard of Asians being linked to it.
Agree. They told stories about my father too, though not satanism. But not one adult, not one, not even the police who questioned him for child abuse when I was 16, not one adult asked me if I had been SA'd. I hadn't. But if they truly believed the story, then why didn't my safety matter to them?
Thank you for sharing your heartbreaking story I'm so glad you are on a healing journey and got to be in your dad's life!!
💝💝💝💝From Angele: You are so beautiful! Inside and out. (BTW: Love those earrings!!!)! This is such a totally twisted story. It is inconceivable how these stories were given to you. I am so sorry that you went through this trauma. I acknowledge you on the hard work you did on your healing journey. Thank you for sharing.
Wow, Lydia I was crying with you. I’m so happy you found your true family! Thank you for sharing you are inspiring and such a beautiful person!
Wow, this one was a roller-coaster. Sending so much love to all ♡
That was such an emotional story with such a great ending. Thank you for sharing
So interesting about how she knew her father wasn't bad but also knew she was going to die the day she met him. From what I understand this is the lower parts of the brain and the frontal cortex competing. This is what early brain washing does. Thanks for telling your story Lydia.
Thank you, Lydia, for sharing your story.I am so glad you got to reunite with your father.❤
Thank you 🙏🏾 ❤
Oooh, that Linda listen!!! Thank you. Just perfect. ❤
I’m sorry you went through this. It is very sad. I hope you get many years together with your father.
Uploaded 21 seconds ago… clicked immediately. Love you 💖✨
Sameeee
I have never been a member of the Mormon church nor do I know anyone who is. I find these stories just unbelievable! Not that I don't believe them but I just have never had an experience remotely similar to. I was raised in a home with both of my parents. We had some issues but nothing like what I see here. I can't imagine having to grow up with the things y'all have! I'm praying for healing and love for all of you!!! People like me will never understand. Not because we don't want to but because we just don't know! But I care. I truly wish y'all could just say bye to the religion and move on. But then you lose your family and friends that you have known all your life? Im just very sorry that you went through these things. It's heartbreaking! 🫂 You are all so strong and I admire your courage!
Oh my gosh! I cried so hard with this one. Lydia is amazing. ❤
bawling at your reunion
Nice, I love it when people question everything. Love the full picture.
It's definitely a skill! I wish everyone could learn this early on 😆
“How did you get 100% of the men in your life to be poisoners” omg lol
Off Topic: Your hair looks amazing, Shelise! 🎉
Thank you for sharing your story Lydia.
What a lovely brilliant woman So glad she shared her story
I'm sorry that Mrs. Knight didn't have more positive experiences in her childhood. She seems to be very happy now. It's wonderful that her dad can have relief.
Wow the beginning just made my jaw drop.
2:06 I can already tell this woman has been through it.
You’re so beautiful and even though I’m only 3 Minutes in.
Already know this beautiful woman is a strong strong woman !! 🙏🏽❣️
Stoppp. They need to make this into a movie. I am cryingggggg
This poor woman and her father who lost out on 25 years due to grandma n mom who lied about everything that's so flucked up about all this. I'm shocked they both survived the lies about everything
Reuniting with my dad has been one of the most beautiful choice of my life. We were just texting this morning about a recipe he shared with me. 🥹 the double memoir "Split" goes deep into his story.
@TheSheCenter I'm looking into getting help with some truma that happened to me as a kid, so it does not hurt what I have going with my family now but don't know how to do it
Another mind blowing life story! Absolutely incredible!!!
Well said 🪬🙏🏾🪬🧿🪬🙏🏾🪬
I remember as a child being told that anyone that played dungeons and dragons were satan worshipers.
I loved this story. It's a cliché but I really felt like I was listening to a conversation with two friends on my couch. Amazing work as always ❤
Excellent! Thank you for sharing your story. And overcoming it.
Truly it is inspirational.
Well, that was, uh, a lot. Just all the best to you on whatever the next chapter looks like, and all the power to you empowering people to think for themselves.
I have a stepson with a bio mom and grandma and aunt with VERY similar shared delusions as to your experience. I can’t even begin to understand what’s going on in their heads. There is also no mental diagnosis as of yet and I would love to know what disorder they have. Not that I would ever be privy to it.
All the interviews I watch on this channel are crazy and intense, but this has got to be the most insane story so far
What a beautiful story, I really needed to hear it.