DIYer Here - Pro-Lite is my absolute hands down favorite Thinset - I tried several other well known brands - I was talked into buying instead of the Pro-lite Thinset by a sales person at Floor & Decor and mixed one batch and didn't like it compared to the Pro-lite - Pro-Lite works and is very strong - Price compared to other Manufacturers is very good - GREAT VIDEO - THANK YOU!
Thank you so much for this wonderful comparison. I've been using Mapei ultraflex LFT that claims to be nonsag but isn't. Schluter allset claims to be nonsag but isn't. Now I know prolite is the way to go. Thank you for your contributions to improve the industry across North America
Great video, should be contacting you in the next month for my first DIY project. I am really grateful for all your videos and would love to support your efforts
Pro-lite is cheap for a lightweight thinset. I’m sold. Unfortunately not instock near me but just got to order ahead. I typically use Keraflex plus or super. May change after trying pro-lite
They don't even carry Pro-Lite at Home Depot over here in North Carolina SMH. I got to go to Crossville tile or Florida Tile in Charlotte to pick it up but I definitely love it it's awesome stuff
@Random1234-j8d gastonia over near Charlotte. Hell i might as well just go to Florida Tile Crossville tile in Charlotte if I'm going to get it I just wish the local Home Depot had it
7:37 LOL, Isaac that’s funny, b/c reminds me of my clothes….. no matter how careful I am, if I’m using any type of caulk, thinset/mortar, or paint materials, somehow I end up getting them on my skin and/or my clothes. Heck, even seems to happen when I’m on site and don’t even pick up a tool, it’s one of those mysteries😅
Pro lite is my go to, but sometimes it’s annoying that it’s hold is so good. It’s almost impossible to adjust a tile after like 10-15 mins especially if using a smaller notch trowel
Not only that.. ServLite had 3-5 minutes more to set up. That is actually crucial. Think about how quickly you can pop clips out. :-5 more mins ProLite holds more for sure. Get it by the pallet it’s cheaper
Lets see how they both do hanging 24x48 in the same manner as this test. Also pro lite doesn't cure well over air tight situations. Curious is kiesel does.
Honestly, quite surprising. Most of your tests show some really helpful information while I’m not sure these nons and ceiling challenges really prove anything in the real world. When are we sticking a tile and then adding 45 pounds? There’s a lot of other features when it comes to a thin set that are not accounted for in this testing. You briefly mentioned cost? That’s good. How about pot life? Working time? How about ANSI ratings? Also, I get serolight in Norfolk Va for upper $30s pro light is mid $30s Looking for more info here. Thanks
Leave the tiles up for 30 days and see how well they hold? This test just doesn’t seem to have any useful information for me as an installer. Still love what you do and thanks for the fun vidoes!
Okay got it, Coach, but could you tell us your current recommendation for an all-around thinset to use. I've personally gone changed three times due to your recommendations, lol, so what are we trying next? I tried to ask you this on the forum since I've been a paid member now for over a year, but it won't let me so questions and won't let me order products. Please advise.
It's "SLAKE" not "SLACK".... If it was "SLACK" then it would have CK not KE. AZ/Vegas calls it deckmud also past 31yrs that I've been using it/ Paragon manufacture. Definitely not what BIGD'S carries anymore. You don't "BACK a CACK" you BAKE a CAKE! Stick to your guns Isaac/my friend. You've been saying it correctly for all the years. I also grew up in NSAC. Went to Pasadena Elementary, Churchill JR High. My to older brother's went to Churchill Jr & Mira Loma HS back in the early 80's to 88' for all 3 of us. We lived in Carmichael. Adress was 4000 Coppertree way Carmichael, CA 95821. KOKO! "KEEP ON KEEPEN ON"
As someone that's still learning this, why did you not dampen the wall before applying or is that just on floors? Also a great additional test for that would have been to see if it held with that full bucket all the way until it was completely set.
I do not understand the purpose of this test. In a normal tiling situation, you would have tiles all the way up the wall with spacers in between them. This would create a load path all the way down to the pan or floor. The tiles could not slide down the wall. A better test would be to have screwed a ledger on that wall and installed the tile against the ledger. You would then need three or four buckets attached to each tile to test the adhesion. This would be more of a pull away test versus a sliding down test. In the end though, the only thing that matters is will the thinset (adhesive) hold the tile to the wall once it’s fully cured. The same goes for the ceiling test, although it is nice to know that you have thinsets available that will hold the tile to the ceiling long enough for it to cure and develop maximum adhesion.
Exactly, holding a large format tile on a ceiling would be relevant, otherwise this test for walls is 100% irrelevant...ALL thinset holds tile on walls.
Because with nonsag thinset you can actually start from top down and that’s handy in certain situations. It’s less messy. It won’t move on you, especially when doing miters, borders, mosaic and niches. It’s easier to work with. The same reason why people use mastic in dry areas instead of thinset.
What are you guys talking about?! It’s a sag test, meaning will the tile sag down the wall after you set it before it cures. I was taught always use a ledger board so the tile sags down to your level ledger board, but that is an outdated technique. Cheap thinsets let tiles and slide whether you want them to or not, potentially causing issues. There are so many advantages to a thinset that keeps the tile in place as you set it! One situation that comes to mind is years ago, I had a mosaic sheet stripe below a 12x3 subway, the subway tile slid down and pushed so much weight on the mosaic sheet it caused grout lines to collapse and tiles to buckle from the weight. I used a cheap thinset, if I had used something like ProLite that would not have happened.
Just a DIY guy, did both my bathrooms using Pro-Lite and loved it. Stuff just sticks.
Wow damn man now I'm going to start using pro lite!..... Customs needs to send you a check man..... Or at least lifetime supply of their products
Appreciate these tests. There is so much shilling on platforms these days that perception of many products has been skewed.
I use prolite for years and is my go to thin set for most applications
Yup definitely the best
DIYer Here - Pro-Lite is my absolute hands down favorite Thinset - I tried several other well known brands - I was talked into buying instead of the Pro-lite Thinset by a sales person at Floor & Decor and mixed one batch and didn't like it compared to the Pro-lite - Pro-Lite works and is very strong - Price compared to other Manufacturers is very good - GREAT VIDEO - THANK YOU!
Pro lite is da bomb! I use it for everything!
Thank you so much for this wonderful comparison. I've been using Mapei ultraflex LFT that claims to be nonsag but isn't. Schluter allset claims to be nonsag but isn't. Now I know prolite is the way to go. Thank you for your contributions to improve the industry across North America
Great job, you sold me!
Tile bro and etile swear servolight the best . Glad pro lite won
Put pea gravel in a bucket of water. It will clean paddle perfect
Vinegar and pea gravel
Great video, should be contacting you in the next month for my first DIY project. I am really grateful for all your videos and would love to support your efforts
$55 a bag for servolite in my area. I just started using it. It’s phenomenal mud. Pro lite hands down has always been one of my favorite’s!
Pro-lite is cheap for a lightweight thinset. I’m sold. Unfortunately not instock near me but just got to order ahead. I typically use Keraflex plus or super. May change after trying pro-lite
Pro lite is AMAZING it's holds so fkn good it's puffy like a marshmallow I use it for everything even large format walls floors everything
I remember prolite at $20 a bag, now it’s $32 lol they figured out how good it is
Nice video agan hahaha❤😉
Pro-Lite is awesome. They also make a Rapid Set variation of it, but it requires a Ship to Store order in my region so a few days’ notice.
He combed the thin set in the proper direction this time!
Always against the shortest dimension!
“Always”…TCNA says “try”…Alex please 🤫
Thanks
Been using a lot of Laticrete Tri-lite lately, i'd love to see you test it. It definitely dries harder than Prolite.
forreal thats what i use. Would love to see trilite vs prolite
@palmerstile9379 I'm all about pro lite but now I want to try tri lite
They don't even carry Pro-Lite at Home Depot over here in North Carolina SMH. I got to go to Crossville tile or Florida Tile in Charlotte to pick it up but I definitely love it it's awesome stuff
I can get it in Winston Salem home depot. What part of NC are you from?
@Random1234-j8d gastonia over near Charlotte. Hell i might as well just go to Florida Tile Crossville tile in Charlotte if I'm going to get it I just wish the local Home Depot had it
Lame they stock it at home depot in Washington
You have to try pro bond by superior. I think it’s the best by far
7:37 LOL, Isaac that’s funny, b/c reminds me of my clothes….. no matter how careful I am, if I’m using any type of caulk, thinset/mortar, or paint materials, somehow I end up getting them on my skin and/or my clothes. Heck, even seems to happen when I’m on site and don’t even pick up a tool, it’s one of those mysteries😅
Pro lite is my go to, but sometimes it’s annoying that it’s hold is so good. It’s almost impossible to adjust a tile after like 10-15 mins especially if using a smaller notch trowel
Ya it locks fast
That’s surprising. I’d like to see how they do on a different substrate. Maybe RSS board or a sheet membrane.
I'm not hanging buckets off my tiles, so it looks like both will work fine.
Please Test prolite against mapei thinset.
Prolite will dominate! Way better
I've used kiesel a few times. It great. But pro lite out doing servo is crazy
Not only that.. ServLite had 3-5 minutes more to set up. That is actually crucial. Think about how quickly you can pop clips out. :-5 more mins ProLite holds more for sure. Get it by the pallet it’s cheaper
No way I'm impressed
Can you test another German company? Schluter All Set vs. Prolite
All set is American made. Doesn't exist in germany
Prolite all day
Keraflex SG is the best one
been saying deck mud in kcmo for 15 years from guys doing it my area for 40 years that trained me..think its universal
What the bucket life for each thinset
I’ve actually never used a lite weight thinset , I’m getting pretty old now so I may have to switch to a lite weight
Lets see how they both do hanging 24x48 in the same manner as this test. Also pro lite doesn't cure well over air tight situations. Curious is kiesel does.
Can you use that same pro lite on your mosaic accent tile as well?
Yup you can use it on anything
Honestly, quite surprising.
Most of your tests show some really helpful information while I’m not sure these nons and ceiling challenges really prove anything in the real world. When are we sticking a tile and then adding 45 pounds?
There’s a lot of other features when it comes to a thin set that are not accounted for in this testing.
You briefly mentioned cost? That’s good.
How about pot life?
Working time?
How about ANSI ratings?
Also, I get serolight in Norfolk Va for upper $30s pro light is mid $30s
Looking for more info here. Thanks
Leave the tiles up for 30 days and see how well they hold?
This test just doesn’t seem to have any useful information for me as an installer.
Still love what you do and thanks for the fun vidoes!
Whats the open time for prolite?
Prolite costs $38 a bag in MS
Okay got it, Coach, but could you tell us your current recommendation for an all-around thinset to use. I've personally gone changed three times due to your recommendations, lol, so what are we trying next? I tried to ask you this on the forum since I've been a paid member now for over a year, but it won't let me so questions and won't let me order products. Please advise.
Pro lite for everything mega lite for serious jobs aka car dealerships etc
Try megalite. Its the best.
Hi Isaac can I use pro lite to install smaller tile? Let’s say I’m installing 12 x 24 or wood plank tiles that are 8” x 48”?
Thanks
Yes it's amazing for everything
What’s the best waterproof membrane for shower.?
Hydroban or customs cbp 232 best waterproofing period
It's "SLAKE" not "SLACK".... If it was "SLACK" then it would have CK not KE. AZ/Vegas calls it deckmud also past 31yrs that I've been using it/ Paragon manufacture. Definitely not what BIGD'S carries anymore. You don't "BACK a CACK" you BAKE a CAKE! Stick to your guns Isaac/my friend. You've been saying it correctly for all the years. I also grew up in NSAC. Went to Pasadena Elementary, Churchill JR High. My to older brother's went to Churchill Jr & Mira Loma HS back in the early 80's to 88' for all 3 of us. We lived in Carmichael. Adress was 4000 Coppertree way Carmichael, CA 95821. KOKO! "KEEP ON KEEPEN ON"
Kiesel has had me blocked for years so Pro-lite all day long!
I didn’t know tile can slack out in Cali.
Pro lite won and servolight even had few mins of dry time before u put weight on it rather than prolight got weight on it alot quicker
Look how creamy the servolight is and it still stuck, the prolight looked like you couldn’t spread it.
Yes the Servolite was much easier to spread at its minimum recommended water ratio.
best bang for buck twinset lol
As someone that's still learning this, why did you not dampen the wall before applying or is that just on floors?
Also a great additional test for that would have been to see if it held with that full bucket all the way until it was completely set.
I had the same thought about not dampening the backer board.
@@Tell-me-more-75225you guys are both right…he definitely shouldve cleaned it…but still….plus i didnt see any dust on it at install
wondering if the backer was a foam board or a sheet membrane, would the results be the same? Since cement board absorbs moisture very quickly
Very good point 👨🔬
The thin set mortar trowel lines should be horizontal not vertical for installing tiles on a vertical surface.
shouldnt matter aslong as the ridges collapse
Hes kinda right but for this test doesn’t really matter. It’s about air escaping. 🌬️
Yeah TC, but you hang servo with black wire and pro with white one. Thats not the same. 🤣
LoL
I do not understand the purpose of this test. In a normal tiling situation, you would have tiles all the way up the wall with spacers in between them. This would create a load path all the way down to the pan or floor. The tiles could not slide down the wall. A better test would be to have screwed a ledger on that wall and installed the tile against the ledger. You would then need three or four buckets attached to each tile to test the adhesion. This would be more of a pull away test versus a sliding down test. In the end though, the only thing that matters is will the thinset (adhesive) hold the tile to the wall once it’s fully cured. The same goes for the ceiling test, although it is nice to know that you have thinsets available that will hold the tile to the ceiling long enough for it to cure and develop maximum adhesion.
Exactly, holding a large format tile on a ceiling would be relevant, otherwise this test for walls is 100% irrelevant...ALL thinset holds tile on walls.
Because with nonsag thinset you can actually start from top down and that’s handy in certain situations. It’s less messy. It won’t move on you, especially when doing miters, borders, mosaic and niches. It’s easier to work with. The same reason why people use mastic in dry areas instead of thinset.
@@StarrTilethe king speaks and we all listen 🫡
What are you guys talking about?! It’s a sag test, meaning will the tile sag down the wall after you set it before it cures. I was taught always use a ledger board so the tile sags down to your level ledger board, but that is an outdated technique. Cheap thinsets let tiles and slide whether you want them to or not, potentially causing issues. There are so many advantages to a thinset that keeps the tile in place as you set it! One situation that comes to mind is years ago, I had a mosaic sheet stripe below a 12x3 subway, the subway tile slid down and pushed so much weight on the mosaic sheet it caused grout lines to collapse and tiles to buckle from the weight. I used a cheap thinset, if I had used something like ProLite that would not have happened.
Sample size of one? 😂
So white thinset has a higher bond strength, not really that even of a test.
Google why white over grey when it comes to thinset. Then maybe youll edit this message
Made in America,
Buy an American!
Pretty sure that second part is illegal.
Free tips on burning your drill out lol
Naw