SIDKICK PICO - The NEW Replacement low-cost SID CHIP for the C64 / C128

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  • Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
  • In This video i look at the new replacement SID device for the C64 and C128 the "SIDKICK PICO", This low cost SID replacement uses a raspberry pi PICO to add upto 2 SID chips into your commodore :)
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 47

  • @MoreFunMakingIt
    @MoreFunMakingIt 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for this! Very interested in building some of these as have a bunch of c64's with no SID. Keep up the good work!

  • @3vi1J
    @3vi1J 7 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for sharing the deep dive! I hadn't heard about this option yet; it's great that the community has given us so many ways to keep the old systems alive.

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому

      Yea these mean sid chips can be replaced very cheaply

  • @retrotechinsanity
    @retrotechinsanity 5 місяців тому +1

    Hey mate thanks for the shout out, great video! My boards should be arriving soon and I'm hopeful it'll work better in C128 mode than the other SID replacements I've tried.

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  5 місяців тому

      So far the pico is working really well, I have it configured at $4d20 and SMB seems to work OK, gonna get another vid together (filmed half), so far, really liking the picp

    • @retrotechinsanity
      @retrotechinsanity 5 місяців тому

      @@CaptainCommodore great news! Have you tried the RFO VDC demo?

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  5 місяців тому

      @insanity213 not yet, but I did try the actual sids used in the demo which play back well, sound in 128 mode works fine once the correct sid model is selected

  • @Retro4u
    @Retro4u 7 місяців тому +1

    Sound good the buddy 😮 although I may try one myself one day good we have these options available 😊 loved the music playing can’t beat a bit of Sid synthesised music

  • @8BitRetroReFix
    @8BitRetroReFix 7 місяців тому +1

    Awesome Video .. I didnt know about these. id love to do another comparison video like ive done with other alternatives... Keep up the great work mate .. Loving the sid tunes thanks for leaving them running :)

  • @JosipRetroBits
    @JosipRetroBits 6 місяців тому

    Great video Lee :) The sound is great! ...and I do like how You made a low packed sandwich, really nice. Cheers!

  • @donpalmera
    @donpalmera 7 місяців тому +5

    I hate to be rude but audio level being all over the place makes this unwatchable.

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому +2

      Yes , unfortunately I recorded some segments on my phone, I was unable to dynamically normalise, however , I have now got wireless mics for future videos

  • @thomassmith4999
    @thomassmith4999 7 місяців тому +2

    Huh.. totally missed this one. This will save a lot of money compared to the teensy version

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому +2

      This is superb

    • @thomassmith4999
      @thomassmith4999 7 місяців тому +2

      @@CaptainCommodore Thanks for making me aware of it, I'll put it on the long list of soldering jobs

  • @claudiusraphael9423
    @claudiusraphael9423 6 місяців тому

    The way SID-muzak needs to be (re-)composed to fit on that basically karaoke-band-machine it is in its core is so friggin amazing, still since first contact. How broad those sounds expand, worblin through your very soul and munch it away happily, lol. Fuck, i love it - thx for sharing!

  • @AlanCanon2222
    @AlanCanon2222 6 місяців тому +2

    Ooh, I want one for my fantasy 65816 build.

  • @The411
    @The411 6 місяців тому +2

    Oh, my poor credit card..... Once more into the breach my friend..

  • @Rick_Todd
    @Rick_Todd 7 місяців тому +2

    A shame you can not test it in another Bread Bin. It does sound good though. If you could only pick 1 between Armsid and this Sidkick pico which one ?

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому +2

      I have quite a few machines and replacement sids, I love the armsid and arm2sid but this is sounding just as good, will try in my c128 and another breadbin when I get time. Before it would have been armsid.... 100% now I'm much more torn , prob the pic tbh

  • @joerhorton
    @joerhorton 4 місяці тому

    If anyone is making these and selling them in the U.K., could you link to them please? I have one poorly breadbin that needs a compatible sid replacement.

  • @WinrichNaujoks
    @WinrichNaujoks 7 місяців тому +1

    We need some side by side sound samples. To me it doesn't sound like a SID.

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому

      I take it you have a c64/c128 ? Download the hvsc psid collection and then run exactly the same files, see for yourself !!! I left full tracks at the end of the video

  • @Rich-ll8ce
    @Rich-ll8ce 7 місяців тому +2

    I have some pcb's for this, where did you get your 74cbt3861 from ? the ones I got from Aliexpress were twice the size and fake I think :(

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому +2

      Mine were from Ali..... got them from here:
      Just found this amazing item on AliExpress. Check it out!
      £7.39 20%OFF | SN74CBTD3861DBQR SSOP-24 SN74CBTD3861 10PCS
      a.aliexpress.com/_EwNzJaH

    • @Rich-ll8ce
      @Rich-ll8ce 7 місяців тому

      Thank you :) @@CaptainCommodore

    • @thomassmith4999
      @thomassmith4999 6 місяців тому +1

      @@CaptainCommodore You did well choosing to get those from Ali, digikey held my order over those. ended up cancelling it. I'll get some from China

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  6 місяців тому

      @thomassmith4999 to be honest I don't really have any problems with Chinese chip except for 2 occasions, 1st Royal Fail decided to post my parcel elsewhere then told me to claim from the 12 sellers ...... I lost right out, and 2nd GAL chips, these were pulls as they are not in production anymore, high number of failures

    • @thomassmith4999
      @thomassmith4999 6 місяців тому

      @@CaptainCommodore I prefer buying from China myself, got well over 3000 orders from Aliexpress. got fake chips like twice. Nothing to be concerned about. The whole shady side of electronics sanctions doesn't enthuse me much so I like the we don't care about such silly things China attitude.

  • @kingforaday8725
    @kingforaday8725 2 місяці тому +1

    Soooooo.....How much is this low cost gonna cost me? I dont see any prices!

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  2 місяці тому

      @kingforaday8725 I'm not selling them, depends if you buy from someone or build it yourself........ The price is how much you can get the components for

  • @TheTurnipKing
    @TheTurnipKing 6 місяців тому +1

    Why the hell didn't they just put the RP2040 on the board instead of mounting a whole Pico on top?

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  6 місяців тому

      You absolutely could do that, I reckon they just aimed to make it easy to build

  • @CobraTheSpacePirate
    @CobraTheSpacePirate 7 місяців тому +1

    Does the analog input work?

    • @CaptainCommodore
      @CaptainCommodore  7 місяців тому

      I havnt tested that, bit I believe it does, if anything it should work better than the original REAL sid jitter wise

    • @CobraTheSpacePirate
      @CobraTheSpacePirate 7 місяців тому +1

      I have an old machine that I finally revived, here in Japan, but it had a SID chip with the 3rd voice toasted outputting static the whole time. I think that I got a swinSID like year and a half ago but when I went to run GEOS with joystick set to default, something was wierd. I want to get one.@@CaptainCommodore (It always seems so weird when you use a modern SBC to replace an old IC, but as the least expensive way and least path of resistance, it is the only way to accommodate the second law of thermodynamics for the least amount of money. Or something like that...I love it because, pure retro guys as well as emulation guys have to think about it again from a purely astrophysics point of view. LOL!

    • @walterg74
      @walterg74 6 місяців тому

      ​@@CobraTheSpacePirate There was nothing "weird"... The swinsid chip does not support mouse/paddles.

    • @CobraTheSpacePirate
      @CobraTheSpacePirate 6 місяців тому

      I already knew that.@@walterg74

    • @CobraTheSpacePirate
      @CobraTheSpacePirate 6 місяців тому

      Even with Joystick selected in GEOS, mouse movement was erratic. As if it was still trying to read from the analog inputs. That is why I would like to try the SIDKICK. To see if the behavior changes or is the same.

  • @JarppaGuru
    @JarppaGuru 7 місяців тому

    yeat again same thing newest what we allready had properrer allready emulatte full c64 xD

    • @walterg74
      @walterg74 6 місяців тому +1

      What?

    • @JarppaGuru
      @JarppaGuru 6 місяців тому

      for english and very easy. its done every time some chip/board come.
      we can just use those when they working@@walterg74