Nice video. Thank you! I’m a full time woodworker and I use hot glue everyday. Rocking is a part time hobby and why I never thought about hot glue for dopping is a big “duh”. A little tip… I heat the glue around the stone with a heat gun for about five seconds and the glue releases immediately.
Rubbing alcohol and denatured alcohol releases hot glue in seconds, as long as the alcohol doesn't damage the stone. That I'm no sure of. Thanks for another video
dent tech Thank you so much for the pro tip I really appreciate it recently I’ve been doing all my turquoise with superglue I have a lot of old-timer friends who’s been telling me to do that my entire lapidary life And I’ve always thought it would be too difficult to remove until I just popped some inside of some nail polish remover and it worked great
I enjoy your channel. I'm just kinda getting started in working through my huge uncut collection. I have you to thank for keeping me in a budget state of mind, you have great tips for keeping things simple and inexpensive...love the drill press flat lap btw!
Thanks for another great video, Dave! I was actually taught to dopp with hot glue and only recently got some green wax to try. I assumed it was going to be better but, as this video confirms for me, its kind of a pain. I didn't have the wood glue sticks so I ran out and got some to see if that makes a difference. Thanks again!
rothery2 You’re absolutely right my friend I totally forgot all about that what a blessing thank you for reminding me I’m definitely going to get one myself to reuse the glue ❤️thanks so much :)
The drill press flat lap didn't work--too much vibration. Got a Vevor flat lap like your demo. Works great! Lapidary is teaching me patience. I need to let the glue ups dry overnight. It takes some practice to become competent on the machines. Yeah, patience!
Hi, Thanks for your info! I use hot glue for other things. If I want to remove the item after I am done, I use an electric mug hotplate to make the glue soft again. The item is than easy to remove and the glue can be re-used. Just wanted to let you know.
Why would you boil the stones to get the green dropping wax off? I just heat the stone again on an an old coffee pot base I have in my shop. Just a little heat, and the wax pulls right off.
Hope you're using dop wax now. It's easy to remove the stone from the dop. Just put it in the freezer for a few minutes and it comes right off without any residue.
Thanks for the tips bud! I am very thankful for your channel. Lapidary seems to be a somewhat "forgotten art" these days. When you mention lapidary to someone, they usually say, "what's that?" LOL. So it's pretty difficult to connect with people with useful tips and knowledge. I love tumbling, but haven't done much lapping or cabbing although I have the equipment. In Michigan it gets pretty cold so it's easier to tumble in my basement than go out the the shed to cut and shape when it's 8 degrees outside. But anyway, keep up the great work and take care!! 👍👍
TheMboe76 Thank you so much for watching my friends are used to tumble a lot but not so much anymore is totally a long process but totally worth it I usually just do not have the time or the patience I really appreciate you commenting thank you so much my friend feel free to ask anything anytime
Great idea! I'll be using my Ryobi battery powered glue gun. No problem in cooling in my garage at least during the winter here. I'm wondering if it's too hot in the garage, how about putting it in the fridge overnight? Thanks for your many most helpful videos. I'm a newbie to lapidary starting with a tumbler. I'm planning to make some small stuff mostly. I'm going to get the 7" Skil tile saw. I'm almost ready to get my drill press flat lap going.
Hi Dave,I'm new to lapidary.im purchasing a cab king next week and I'm very excited and nervous...the whole dopping with green had me wondering..this whole hot glue idea is excellent!..any vids on how to create a girdle and bezel?..or how to form a dome?.. anything will help.
Thanks for watching my friend I’m sorry but I haven’t made any videos dedicated to bezels and doming but they are great ideas for videos I hope you enjoy your cabking
Thanks for the great video Dave!!! I was having a really hard time today with my green dop when I was making cabs for a fridge magnet order. Was making a mental checklist of what could've been going wrong. Dirty cab bottoms, bad dop, stones not getting hot enough. Finally it clicked... Hmm, I'm working in my open aired garage... it's rainy and 40° outside. My cabs were cooling off so quickly that my dope wasn't adhering to the stones! Basically, the outside temp had the same effect of them being put in the freezer. Just came right off with the slightest pressure. I finally started to use some Gorilla brand super glue gel, but again, it takes awhile to set when it's cold. I am most definitely going to go out and get myself a good hot glue gun now! Thanks again! AJ Roberts Savannah, GA
@@lapidarydave Nice! Next time you're around, hit me up and I'll show you the sights. Tried out the hot glue yesterday and it worked well. No problems except the water to my polish wheels was so cold after 45 min I couldn't feel my hands. Lol. Guess I better rig up a water heating unit for my water reservoir. (Like I said before, I work out in an open aired garage, so it gets cold!) Lol. Thanks for the reply. Keep a goin.
I wasn't going to,comment but when,I,heard you say you were a musician I had to,say hello I,started with rocks in,may making,arrow heads well it quickly evolved into making wire tie knecklaces to finding more gemmy material to,buying,some,lapsis and,labrodite I,just,found your channel a few days ago youve been showing,me,around the trade shows I didnt,know,existed my mother lives in Trinidad so,not,to,far from,you I visist ber often I,live in,eastern Colorado along,the kansas border I play the guitar you have been a huge help,in I didnt,know,those,trade shows existed so wow I,was excited for,that also I have learned abkut so many more minerals crystals where and,how,to,make or,get a good,deal on,equipment thanx do you have any videos,of your music or,a,seperate channel keep it,coming your my,new guru lol really you are though
Hello there my friend thank you so much for watching I really appreciate it Trinidad is pretty close to Denver you should go to the Denver show in September if you ever get the chance I go to Trinidad a lot with my friends who like to buy herb even though it’s recreational here in New Mexico it’s always better in Colorado anyway I do not have a separate channel for music I did back in the day that I used for footage that I would include in my press kits for booking festivals and such in a few different bands I was winter and never really kept up with it
@@lapidarydave yes I plan on it and Buena Vista is that the Colorado Buena Vista its not far either well if inaee you at either or I get to Taous I will say hi I assume you have a store of some kind there thanx again your knowledge is really getting me informed just what I was looking for your videos are super
Thanks great tip. I can't do anything outside in my garage or even my basement. Its been -35⁰ high +6⁰. As you know. I'm building a machine. Hope to have it complete when it warms up a little.
KL K definitely my friend I have since started using super glue and putting them in nail polish remover from the dollar store but thank you so much for appreciating the hot glue it definitely serves it’s purpose and is a easy go to Salesian
Have you used this on opal? When I was a dumb kid and got hold of my mom's loose opals, I hot glued them to a ceramic cup. We could not get them off and ended up craking them even though the backs were polished to a high shine. It makes me sick. Lock up your gems if you have kids/teens. Anyway, I'm starting to wonder about using it for hydrophane opal since it won't soak in like superglue and won't soak in to a lesser extent like wood glue. The hydrophane doesn't like to be heated, but if the hot glue was cooled a bit, it would probably be gentle enough. However, due to the natural texture of hydrophane (it is like a sponge on the microscopic level), I think the hot glue would be even harder to remove from Ethiopian opal than from non-hydrophane material. I personally think it is probably a horrible idea, but if someone has done it successfully, I'd love to know how they got it off. Thanks so much.
You can get a metal tube which ID is the right size of the glue stick cut to 8" say find a nut that will hold the tube straight up fix the nut to a metal sheet or block of metal by welding. You may need to weld another nut on top if one isn't another to hold the tube upright without movement then you need a metal funnel with the outlet hole able to go on the inside of the tube using a heat gun or gas torch heat the tube & funnel adding the used glue melting the glue letting it run down the tube. keep heating the tube & funnel up so is runs down. I have been able to make new sticks from old used glue. Or as another person has said you can get a hot glue pot & melt it in the pot. I am not sure if doing it from a pot if you would need to warm the stone as the glue would be a little cooler then out of the hot glue gun.
Diane Green I am totally not going to lie Jay King has some of the best deals out there one kid by J King jewelry some of it at least and make a huge profit on the sale I watch a lot of your videos and I have realize that they are in the market of buying some of the most cheapest gemstones in the industry of higher-quality name and flipping it for 10 times as much however there is room for folks to make 20 times as much in resale
Got my cab king 2 weeks ago. Workin with some really nice variscite and labradorite. Also tried out some wonderstone and tigereye. Def gonna try this method on my next grind sesh. Thanks for all the encouragement. Im 5 cabs in and obsessed. I absolutely love forming rocks and polishing. Ill keep ya posted on my progress
Good video mate, i love alternatives to the wax. The one im using atm is soudal's fix all - high tack. Its a polymer with no acetone making it user friendly and requires very little glue unless polishing the back of a high dome cab. Im trialing some new polymer tubes as they come in the gap filler style tubes. Best to leave overnight Super strong and super easy to remove. No heat involved also. Cheers dude
Ryan FP Thank you so much for commenting my friend I really appreciate it I will totally look into that dopping method I am totally interested in trying that out thank you so much my friend I really appreciate you commenting
Hi nice to see dopping by hot glue I use natural wax that's solid and easy to remove stone from dopping stic I wood like show you how I do all lapidary work but I don't have any medium to send you video your videos are really interesting.
Kalimuddin Ansari do you use Instagram or Facebook? You could find me on either via #lapidarydave Or email me at davijjgarcia89@gmail.com I’d love to learn
@@gabrielheredia7563 I almost never used dops and when I do, the Luis is too much work for one or two pieces so I’ve been using superglue but I did just see a video of one of my Turquoise heroes working and they use hot glue. Just remember it has to be the woodworking glue with woodworking high-temperature glue gun
James Scott Definitely give it a try it is my favorite way of dopping stones like turquoise because the green wax can be a little difficult for me to get off quickly and simply where this hot glue comes right off when I needed to as soon as I’m done and it’s totally worth it I will be in Quartzsite this year for a few days to do some filming and I will also be in Tucson closer to the 30th make sure to hit me up my friend either on Facebook or Instagram (#lapidarydave) or at davijjgarcia89@gmail.com we can meet up and check out rocks :)
The only thing I see that is a problem with this method is the release part. Brittle stones or stones that are lamilar or fractured will leave parts of themselves stuck to the glue is in your first example. I use 5-min epoxy which does this sometimes but seems less likely. And of course dopp wax will do that too if you try to force the release.
Todd Goodwin I haven’t had that problem yet but I could totally see that happening it definitely does with green wax A few folks have been suggesting to me to use isoalcohol which will make the stone release without having to apply any pressure which is some great advice Thank you so much for your comments my friend I really appreciate it
@@lapidarydave If you put some 90' alcohol and let it for a min all the hot glue will pop up so easly. Don't know about super glue.. maybe isn't the best way to heat the stone
Fugitive Thank you so much for watching my friend Let me know how the glue works out for you and feel free to ask me any of your lapidary questions that really helps if you haven’t done so already please consider subscribing to my channel it really helps a lot my friend
Depending on what buffing burr you use you can use almost any compound with your dremel I use to use zam and fabuluster with my rotors tool I see some folks even use diamond paste too Thanks for watching feel free to ask me anything any time and dont for get to Subscribe if you haven't already :) it really helps
Hey brother...what glue sticks do I need? The yellow wood kind? I got some high temp ones but they just broke off every time.. they were the clear white ones... thanks for any help!
You were going to want to use woodworking hot glue it almost doesn’t matter which brand it is different than a temperature craft hot glue also the woodworking hot glue guns are different they burn at a much higher temperature one more tip make sure to heat the stone very thoroughly or the glue will not stick to the stone in a similar way that you need to heat wax for the stone to stick to dopping wax
@@wildwest1306 so I use a Dop pot and lay the stones on the room so that they get hot which is the way you would heat the stones when you’re applying wax but you can use a Cheap hair straightening iron or a electric griddle to do the same
I love your stuff and it’s been educational. I do have so many questions but one I would like to know is.. Dopping just for what you use? I have to polish by hand so I am thinking of doing the “ gluing the stone to a nail for a dremel “ to polish. The material I am using is obsidian.
dopping can help with precision on some pieces also in my experience it lets me work faster i don’t dop much anymore but when i do i usually dopp with super glue to a wooden dowel
@@lapidarydave so what would your suggestion be with polishing without the machines? Will using some form of glue be ok do use a mail in a dremel to polish?
@@Brok3n_Handz that’s one way to do it but it will only make round cabs you could check out my other videos on how to turn a drill press into a lapidary saw, grinder, polisher, or flat lap it’s cheap and easy
@@lapidarydave I will but I can’t even afford one. I am looking for some home made way to polish because I don’t think my arm and shoulder can handle it anymore
@@Brok3n_Handz give the dremel technique a shot maybe you could make enough pieces to sell and save up for better tools :) good luck my friend i believe in you
rothery2 it holds really well sometimes when I would Dopp With green wax I could get the wax to release the stone by applying lots of heat to the Stone via my polishing compounds and buffing wheels however I cannot do this with the hot glue so I would say the heat from your leather and cerium would affect the hot glue less than it would dropping wax which is a little bit more sensitive to heat when it comes to releasing the stone
Yoooo thanks so much You are totally a blessing and I’m going to give us a try as soon as I get home tonight thank you so much my friend for the info you’re awesome
Aaron Zalewski I’m definitely still making videos my friend sorry I haven’t been around or in touch I was busy playing music shows for Thanksgiving and Christmas and soon New Year’s All of the same time I’ve been trying to get as ready as I can for the Tucson gem show but I do have about three or four videos that I’m finishing up and will upload soon thank you for the comment thank you for watching my friend I really appreciate it it’s truly a blessing
I do vendor Kino but I’ll be running all over the place I’m going to be filming for the minors co-op this year and a few other vendors and venues You will definitely see me and my friend my booth arrive and his sweet medicine drums my grandmother makes Native American hand drums and we are located right in front of the food court at Kino
Nice video. Thank you! I’m a full time woodworker and I use hot glue everyday. Rocking is a part time hobby and why I never thought about hot glue for dopping is a big “duh”. A little tip… I heat the glue around the stone with a heat gun for about five seconds and the glue releases immediately.
Rubbing alcohol and denatured alcohol releases hot glue in seconds, as long as the alcohol doesn't damage the stone. That I'm no sure of. Thanks for another video
dent tech Thank you so much for the pro tip I really appreciate it recently I’ve been doing all my turquoise with superglue I have a lot of old-timer friends who’s been telling me to do that my entire lapidary life And I’ve always thought it would be too difficult to remove until I just popped some inside of some nail polish remover and it worked great
I enjoy your channel. I'm just kinda getting started in working through my huge uncut collection. I have you to thank for keeping me in a budget state of mind, you have great tips for keeping things simple and inexpensive...love the drill press flat lap btw!
Thanks for another great video, Dave! I was actually taught to dopp with hot glue and only recently got some green wax to try. I assumed it was going to be better but, as this video confirms for me, its kind of a pain. I didn't have the wood glue sticks so I ran out and got some to see if that makes a difference. Thanks again!
Mc Googlio thank you so much my friend I really appreciate you watching and good luck with the glue dopping :)
They make hot glue pots that are similar to the dopping pots. That would make it so you can reuse the glue. Just start treating it like the dop wax.
rothery2 You’re absolutely right my friend I totally forgot all about that what a blessing thank you for reminding me I’m definitely going to get one myself to reuse the glue ❤️thanks so much :)
The drill press flat lap didn't work--too much vibration. Got a Vevor flat lap like your demo. Works great! Lapidary is teaching me patience. I need to let the glue ups dry overnight. It takes some practice to become competent on the machines. Yeah, patience!
A short little "Spriz" with Isoprophl Alcohol releases the hot melt glue quickly. Your scaring me with that knife......safety first.
Hi, Thanks for your info! I use hot glue for other things. If I want to remove the item after I am done, I use an electric mug hotplate to make the glue soft again. The item is than easy to remove and the glue can be re-used. Just wanted to let you know.
Hi, thanks for this video. I was thinking to use hot glue also, but I wasn't sure if it will work. Now I know thanks to you.
how thick are the slabs?
Why would you boil the stones to get the green dropping wax off? I just heat the stone again on an an old coffee pot base I have in my shop. Just a little heat, and the wax pulls right off.
Try using isopropyl alcohol to remove the glue.. Should pop right off after a30 seconds or so.
Hope you're using dop wax now. It's easy to remove the stone from the dop. Just put it in the freezer for a few minutes and it comes right off without any residue.
You might see if the used glue can be remelted in your dopping heat pot. If it can then that will save some money.
Thanks for the tips bud! I am very thankful for your channel. Lapidary seems to be a somewhat "forgotten art" these days. When you mention lapidary to someone, they usually say, "what's that?" LOL. So it's pretty difficult to connect with people with useful tips and knowledge. I love tumbling, but haven't done much lapping or cabbing although I have the equipment. In Michigan it gets pretty cold so it's easier to tumble in my basement than go out the the shed to cut and shape when it's 8 degrees outside. But anyway, keep up the great work and take care!! 👍👍
TheMboe76 Thank you so much for watching my friends are used to tumble a lot but not so much anymore is totally a long process but totally worth it I usually just do not have the time or the patience I really appreciate you commenting thank you so much my friend feel free to ask anything anytime
Great idea! I'll be using my Ryobi battery powered glue gun. No problem in cooling in my garage at least during the winter here. I'm wondering if it's too hot in the garage, how about putting it in the fridge overnight? Thanks for your many most helpful videos. I'm a newbie to lapidary starting with a tumbler. I'm planning to make some small stuff mostly. I'm going to get the 7" Skil tile saw. I'm almost ready to get my drill press flat lap going.
Awesome my pleasure to help
Hi Dave,I'm new to lapidary.im purchasing a cab king next week and I'm very excited and nervous...the whole dopping with green had me wondering..this whole hot glue idea is excellent!..any vids on how to create a girdle and bezel?..or how to form a dome?.. anything will help.
Thanks for watching my friend I’m sorry but I haven’t made any videos dedicated to bezels and doming but they are great ideas for videos
I hope you enjoy your cabking
@@lapidarydave I'm currently working on it... bezel is a bia!
This is the worst idea ever. I have spent more time trying to remove the glue than I spent backing and finishing. Green wax and a freezer is best.
@@JamesFox-yv2ut 🤷♂️
The hot pink material you’re calling allanite was a surprise. Pretty sure its actually clinozoisite.
it’s def alunite but clino is pretty cool
Thanks for the great video Dave!!! I was having a really hard time today with my green dop when I was making cabs for a fridge magnet order. Was making a mental checklist of what could've been going wrong. Dirty cab bottoms, bad dop, stones not getting hot enough. Finally it clicked...
Hmm, I'm working in my open aired garage... it's rainy and 40° outside.
My cabs were cooling off so quickly that my dope wasn't adhering to the stones! Basically, the outside temp had the same effect of them being put in the freezer. Just came right off with the slightest pressure.
I finally started to use some Gorilla brand super glue gel, but again, it takes awhile to set when it's cold.
I am most definitely going to go out and get myself a good hot glue gun now!
Thanks again!
AJ Roberts
Savannah, GA
Awesome:) thanks so much for watching
Let me know how it goes my friend
I love savannah Georgia btw I’ve toured there in band a few times
@@lapidarydave Nice!
Next time you're around, hit me up and I'll show you the sights.
Tried out the hot glue yesterday and it worked well. No problems except the water to my polish wheels was so cold after 45 min I couldn't feel my hands. Lol. Guess I better rig up a water heating unit for my water reservoir. (Like I said before, I work out in an open aired garage, so it gets cold!) Lol.
Thanks for the reply.
Keep a goin.
Glad I saw this wife already has hot glue gun
Awesome....just a question its possible to reuse or the used glue on the stone and stick once finishing the final polishing
a lot of folks asked this question and unfortunately i’m not sure some people thought yes you should be able to but i’m notsure
I wasn't going to,comment but when,I,heard you say you were a musician I had to,say hello I,started with rocks in,may making,arrow heads well it quickly evolved into making wire tie knecklaces to finding more gemmy material to,buying,some,lapsis and,labrodite I,just,found your channel a few days ago youve been showing,me,around the trade shows I didnt,know,existed my mother lives in Trinidad so,not,to,far from,you I visist ber often I,live in,eastern Colorado along,the kansas border I play the guitar you have been a huge help,in I didnt,know,those,trade shows existed so wow I,was excited for,that also I have learned abkut so many more minerals crystals where and,how,to,make or,get a good,deal on,equipment thanx do you have any videos,of your music or,a,seperate channel keep it,coming your my,new guru lol really you are though
Hello there my friend thank you so much for watching I really appreciate it Trinidad is pretty close to Denver you should go to the Denver show in September if you ever get the chance I go to Trinidad a lot with my friends who like to buy herb even though it’s recreational here in New Mexico it’s always better in Colorado anyway I do not have a separate channel for music I did back in the day that I used for footage that I would include in my press kits for booking festivals and such in a few different bands I was winter and never really kept up with it
@@lapidarydave yes I plan on it and Buena Vista is that the Colorado Buena Vista its not far either well if inaee you at either or I get to Taous I will say hi I assume you have a store of some kind there thanx again your knowledge is really getting me informed just what I was looking for your videos are super
Awesome video! Thanks
just avoid this method on opal
Thanks great tip. I can't do anything outside in my garage or even my basement. Its been -35⁰ high +6⁰. As you know. I'm building a machine. Hope to have it complete when it warms up a little.
Thank you thank you thank you for saving me from the hell of green wax!!!
KL K definitely my friend I have since started using super glue and putting them in nail polish remover from the dollar store but thank you so much for appreciating the hot glue it definitely serves it’s purpose and is a easy go to Salesian
thank you, from Habana Mackay Nth Queensland Australia, will try this ASAP thanks again.
Have you used this on opal? When I was a dumb kid and got hold of my mom's loose opals, I hot glued them to a ceramic cup. We could not get them off and ended up craking them even though the backs were polished to a high shine. It makes me sick. Lock up your gems if you have kids/teens. Anyway, I'm starting to wonder about using it for hydrophane opal since it won't soak in like superglue and won't soak in to a lesser extent like wood glue. The hydrophane doesn't like to be heated, but if the hot glue was cooled a bit, it would probably be gentle enough. However, due to the natural texture of hydrophane (it is like a sponge on the microscopic level), I think the hot glue would be even harder to remove from Ethiopian opal than from non-hydrophane material. I personally think it is probably a horrible idea, but if someone has done it successfully, I'd love to know how they got it off. Thanks so much.
i have but i’ve been using ca glue as of late
@@lapidarydave what is ca glue and does it work for dopping hydrophane?
@@andreameigs1261 hmmm good question maybe not
Hell yeah good idea
Hi Dave, can you use it for glass cabochons?
sure
You can get a metal tube which ID is the right size of the glue stick cut to 8" say find a nut that will hold the tube straight up fix the nut to a metal sheet or block of metal by welding. You may need to weld another nut on top if one isn't another to hold the tube upright without movement then you need a metal funnel with the outlet hole able to go on the inside of the tube using a heat gun or gas torch heat the tube & funnel adding the used glue melting the glue letting it run down the tube. keep heating the tube & funnel up so is runs down. I have been able to make new sticks from old used glue. Or as another person has said you can get a hot glue pot & melt it in the pot. I am not sure if doing it from a pot if you would need to warm the stone as the glue would be a little cooler then out of the hot glue gun.
Hi Dave, can you possibly tell me the name of the gun and sticks you use in this vid? Thanks.
stanley is the brand my friend
@@lapidarydave Much appreciated man. Thankyou.
good info and great presentation/video. looking forward to checking out your other videos.
They should make doping guns
dent tech That’s a great idea they might even exist thank you so much for washing I really appreciate it my friend
Love that turquoise...Jay King did a turquoise I think sanoran ? Any way it was beautiful right mix of turquoise blue and brown ..
Diane Green I am totally not going to lie Jay King has some of the best deals out there one kid by J King jewelry some of it at least and make a huge profit on the sale I watch a lot of your videos and I have realize that they are in the market of buying some of the most cheapest gemstones in the industry of higher-quality name and flipping it for 10 times as much however there is room for folks to make 20 times as much in resale
Got my cab king 2 weeks ago. Workin with some really nice variscite and labradorite. Also tried out some wonderstone and tigereye. Def gonna try this method on my next grind sesh. Thanks for all the encouragement. Im 5 cabs in and obsessed. I absolutely love forming rocks and polishing. Ill keep ya posted on my progress
thanks for watching
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Good video mate, i love alternatives to the wax.
The one im using atm is soudal's fix all - high tack. Its a polymer with no acetone making it user friendly and requires very little glue unless polishing the back of a high dome cab.
Im trialing some new polymer tubes as they come in the gap filler style tubes.
Best to leave overnight
Super strong and super easy to remove.
No heat involved also.
Cheers dude
Ryan FP Thank you so much for commenting my friend I really appreciate it I will totally look into that dopping method I am totally interested in trying that out thank you so much my friend I really appreciate you commenting
This is awesome, will save me buying all that dopping equipment!!! Thanks!
make sure to buy woodworking hot glue not the hobby stuff my friend
Hi nice to see dopping by hot glue I use natural wax that's solid and easy to remove stone from dopping stic I wood like show you how I do all lapidary work but I don't have any medium to send you video your videos are really interesting.
Kalimuddin Ansari do you use Instagram or Facebook? You could find me on either via #lapidarydave
Or email me at davijjgarcia89@gmail.com
I’d love to learn
Good work. This still your go to for dopping?
@@gabrielheredia7563 I almost never used dops and when I do, the Luis is too much work for one or two pieces so I’ve been using superglue but I did just see a video of one of my Turquoise heroes working and they use hot glue. Just remember it has to be the woodworking glue with woodworking high-temperature glue gun
@lapidarydave the super c
Glue sounds ideal for sure less buoyancy then the hot glue so I feel it Crack off but I'm new
Please dont lick the stones 🤣
Can’t help it it looks like candy 😛 just kidding I try not to :)
Thanks! I’m eager to try it. Will you be at the Quartzite QIA show? We are making plans now to make up for missing the show last year.
James Scott Definitely give it a try it is my favorite way of dopping stones like turquoise because the green wax can be a little difficult for me to get off quickly and simply where this hot glue comes right off when I needed to as soon as I’m done and it’s totally worth it
I will be in Quartzsite this year for a few days to do some filming and I will also be in Tucson closer to the 30th make sure to hit me up my friend either on Facebook or Instagram (#lapidarydave) or at davijjgarcia89@gmail.com we can meet up and check out rocks :)
Great vid. Thanks for the tip! When I get a way to polish besides sandpaper I will try that. Havagudun my friend
E. D. Law you too my friend thanks so much for watching :)
I've noticed this as well. I've 6 month old hot glue dops that still hold the stone, and clean up easily. @2:57
Jacob Downey heck yea I’m so happy it’s working thanks for watching
The only thing I see that is a problem with this method is the release part. Brittle stones or stones that are lamilar or fractured will leave parts of themselves stuck to the glue is in your first example. I use 5-min epoxy which does this sometimes but seems less likely. And of course dopp wax will do that too if you try to force the release.
Todd Goodwin I haven’t had that problem yet but I could totally see that happening it definitely does with green wax A few folks have been suggesting to me to use isoalcohol which will make the stone release without having to apply any pressure which is some great advice
Thank you so much for your comments my friend I really appreciate it
Use strong alcohol to remove glue residues
Thanks for the tip I have since stopped using hot glue and started using super glue which I remove with a blow torch
@@lapidarydave If you put some 90' alcohol and let it for a min all the hot glue will pop up so easly. Don't know about super glue.. maybe isn't the best way to heat the stone
I'm new to dopping and was having little success with wax, I'm gonna try the glue. Thx for the tip
Fugitive Thank you so much for watching my friend Let me know how the glue works out for you and feel free to ask me any of your lapidary questions that really helps if you haven’t done so already please consider subscribing to my channel it really helps a lot my friend
Love your channel ... what type of polishing compound can I use with my dremel to polish my stones
Depending on what buffing burr you use you can use almost any compound with your dremel I use to use zam and fabuluster with my rotors tool I see some folks even use diamond paste too
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I thought the stones were wax hahaha
Incredibly helpful. Thanks!
gail j my pleasure to help :)
Hey brother...what glue sticks do I need? The yellow wood kind? I got some high temp ones but they just broke off every time.. they were the clear white ones... thanks for any help!
You were going to want to use woodworking hot glue it almost doesn’t matter which brand it is different than a temperature craft hot glue also the woodworking hot glue guns are different they burn at a much higher temperature one more tip make sure to heat the stone very thoroughly or the glue will not stick to the stone in a similar way that you need to heat wax for the stone to stick to dopping wax
@@lapidarydave thanks! How do you heat your stones before? Curious how hot to get it.
@@wildwest1306 so I use a Dop pot and lay the stones on the room so that they get hot which is the way you would heat the stones when you’re applying wax but you can use a Cheap hair straightening iron or a electric griddle to do the same
Thanks for sharing.
Of course my friend :) If you enjoy these types of videos please consider subscribing to the channel it really helps
Kool thanks, I'll try this.
kev yazzie Thank you for watching my friend it’s totally my pleasure if you haven’t done so already please consider subscribing it really helps out
I love your stuff and it’s been educational. I do have so many questions but one I would like to know is.. Dopping just for what you use? I have to polish by hand so I am thinking of doing the “ gluing the stone to a nail for a dremel “ to polish. The material I am using is obsidian.
dopping can help with precision on some pieces also in my experience it lets me work faster i don’t dop much anymore but when i do i usually dopp with super glue to a wooden dowel
@@lapidarydave so what would your suggestion be with polishing without the machines? Will using some form of glue be ok do use a mail in a dremel to polish?
@@Brok3n_Handz that’s one way to do it but it will only make round cabs
you could check out my other videos on how to turn a drill press into a lapidary saw, grinder, polisher, or flat lap it’s cheap and easy
@@lapidarydave I will but I can’t even afford one. I am looking for some home made way to polish because I don’t think my arm and shoulder can handle it anymore
@@Brok3n_Handz give the dremel technique a shot maybe you could make enough pieces to sell and save up for better tools :) good luck my friend i believe in you
Thanks brother
Anwar quresh thank you my good friend :) ❤️
How well does it hold when using the padded leather polisher with cerium?
rothery2 it holds really well sometimes when I would Dopp With green wax I could get the wax to release the stone by applying lots of heat to the Stone via my polishing compounds and buffing wheels however I cannot do this with the hot glue so I would say the heat from your leather and cerium would affect the hot glue less than it would dropping wax which is a little bit more sensitive to heat when it comes to releasing the stone
Sounds like I've got a new dopping technique. I keep losing stones on that final polish from the wax releasing too early.
I hear that my friend
Tell me how it works out for you when you give it a shot :)
Try putting a drop of iso alcohol on the hot snot when you want to take it off.
clanrat What was that to my friend Sounds interesting
Will it take off the leftover hot snot
@@lapidarydave yes the iso breaks down the hot melt and will help it come clean off the stone. You will be amazed
Yoooo thanks so much You are totally a blessing and I’m going to give us a try as soon as I get home tonight thank you so much my friend for the info you’re awesome
Hey Dave you still making new videos my friend?
Aaron Zalewski I’m definitely still making videos my friend sorry I haven’t been around or in touch I was busy playing music shows for Thanksgiving and Christmas and soon New Year’s All of the same time I’ve been trying to get as ready as I can for the Tucson gem show but I do have about three or four videos that I’m finishing up and will upload soon thank you for the comment thank you for watching my friend I really appreciate it it’s truly a blessing
Awesome 👍 I'm hoping to run into you at the gem show you vend at kino right?
I do vendor Kino but I’ll be running all over the place I’m going to be filming for the minors co-op this year and a few other vendors and venues You will definitely see me and my friend my booth arrive and his sweet medicine drums my grandmother makes Native American hand drums and we are located right in front of the food court at Kino
Cool can't wait for February 😁
Great idea! Thanks for sharing!
Kathryn Argiro thanks for watching my friend i really appreciate it :)
@@lapidarydave absolutely!