I'm impressed with this device overall, although I do wish it had pen support and was 8" in a more vertical format. I am seriously considering the larger one with the pen so I can use it for note taking. The fact that we have the Google App Store on them is such a huge bonus. The Kindle Scribe is great in many ways, except you can't do anything outside of what Amazon gives you, which is not enough.
I truly wish you could use a stylus with this, because it seems to be better quality than the Big Me B571C & I like that it’s water-repellent. And having dyslexia, I can appreciate it having text-to-speech & being able to read book pages with ease (unlike screen reader on my paperwhite that reads everything on the page. Including images & the menu)
I have been buying Boox devices for a couple of years as I need handwriting for my thought processing... Unfortunately this one does not support stylus but Go 10.3 does and reminds reMarkable so it is likely that I will "test" that one later...👍
Nice! Looks like a great device. Was very strongly considering this device as I love the openess of android, but leaning towards a used Kobo Libra 2 as I primarily care about reading in back and white and the color displays have less contrast than black and white (and Kobo is more optimized for reading). Wish I could just get both lol
Thanks for your video. When testing the battery life did you turn off wifi? I have a Kindle Oasis and after getting the book(s) I would like to read, I turn on airplane mode and battery life for me, lasts into the weeks. I can't find a reason why you would leave wifi on especially if this is being used primarily to read? I ordered the Boox Color 7 yesterday.
I am setting up my new device as we speak and if you don’t mind, I have a couple questions. How do you get rid of that quick button circle at the bottom right hand side of the device. When I want to use the buttons on the right side of the device to turn the pages, I have to hold down the button for half second for it to turn the page. Is there a way to set that up so as soon as you press it, it turns the page? Sometimes when I press the button it will skip a page?
eink seems to always have a significant bezel most likely due to the controllers running it. Adoption to eink is very niche which sets this kind of display technology at a very slow pace compared to back lit displays, but I really want a trans reflective screen on all of my devices that doesn't look like mud when playing video.
@@homie4235 I have yet to see a "bezel less" e-ink display even for diy kits. It seems the cabling and controller connectors need to be mounted to the side of the display and never behind it like backlit displays.
@@riopato2009 if by “bezel-less” you mean all-screen designs similar to the most recent iPhones and Samsung devices, I’m not sure how feasible it is with current e-ink tech. The small bezels on phones are enabled by literally bending the OLED display back into the phone body so the controller hardware can be given giving the all-screen appearance. This is only possible because OLED panels are natively flexible, and I’m not sure if e-ink screens can or ever will be able to do that. If they can/will, it will probably be prohibitively expensive especially at the low volumes ereaders sell at vs phones. The bezels on the Boox Palma as well as some of their tablets are pretty slim and look nice, don’t you want to be able to hold your device a bit more easily without accidentally touching the screen?
I am a university student and I would like to see recorded classes on that boox go color 7 tablet, I can't pay more for a kaleido 3 screen, do you think it is possible to see my classes on this tablet or is it very annoying?
I think it will be okey for manga but for comics it's too small, unless you want to zoom in and out every big speach buble. A normal android tabled will be cheaper and bigger and with better colours for comics specifically.
E-Ink is never going to display colors like an LCD screen. These are two totally different technologies meant for different things. LCD is never going to work like E-Ink outdoors or provide the battery life either.
For comic reading you should us Regal to eliminate ghosting not the faster settings. The faster scroll setting create more ghosting. Using the slower settings forces a cleaner refresh
Huh. Don't see anyone mentioning it but.. don't use CPU-Z, it's misreporting Snapdragon SoCs; use the Device Info HW app instead. Like, for the Onyx Boox Page, CPU-Z also reported a Snapdragon 665 when it was the 662. The Boox Go Color 7 (and the Note Air3 C that you mentioned) uses the 680 which was released in Q4 2021. It's still the same chip as the 665, only clocked 20% faster but at least the process node changed from Samsung's 11nm to TSMC's 6nm, so it should use less power.
I just got mine, and my screen is nowhere near as rich as this... I'm so disappointed in the device, all videos I've seen make the screen look so much lighter and brighter than it is.
You need extremely bright lighting for color eink. Most videos are using professional lighting equivalent to standing in the sun. You can crank up the front light but it'll severely reduce your battery life which is the main function of eink vs a tablet.
@@chiquita683 Exactly. I came to realize this with my Nova Color 3. Which is why my next device will be black-and-white again - I just don't really need color enough. Much rather prefer a longer battery runtime and better contrast.
I use an Oasis as well and I am expecting the Boox 7 color to be delivered today. I am quite realistic about the color rendering on this device and how it is going to deliver images. Also, I was just excited to upgrade to this device which has the same form factor as the Oasis but has a much faster processor, more ram, storage (internal and an sd card) and not least the ability to read books using other platforms..i.e one is not tied strictly to the Amazon ecosystem. Again having the ability to see books, comics etc, in color when available, and if not at least the book covers are, which would mimic the experience one would have with physical books in most cases.
@@mden2490 been a bit over a week, how are you liking the Boox compared to the Oasis for reading? Especially curious about the screen contrast and text legibility in medium-light situations (like outdoors in the shade)
@@goinginzane I sold my Oasis and the Boox is just as good as the Oasis to me. I do not have any issues reading the text and tweaked some of the settings to my liking and it's just great! I have not has nay issues in low or medium light conditions at all. My front light setting is at about 60% and I don't touch it. It's really great to be able to download your reading apps on the device and have more than one option to read books, magazines, comics etc. It was the same price as the oasis and yet you get a color display and basically an open system. I would rather have the option that mirrors what I would have as day to day experience., a color book cover, black and white inner pages. You can still have the option to read comics and other material in color. Sure it's not like looking at your iPad etc, but neither is looking at a newspaper in color or anything else on paper for that fact. You have to set the right expectation and you will not be disappointed. Those who are disappointed somehow want a $400 e reader for $200 dollars.....?
I think the Snapdragon 665 is even older since that's what my BlackBerry Key2 has. It still runs reasonably smoothly but yeah, it was hardly a powerhouse, even back then.
According to Wikipedia, the BlackBerry Key2 has the Snapdragon 660 which was released in Q2 2017 with Samsung's 14LPP process node while the 665 was released in Q2 2019 with Samsung's 11LPP node. The maximum CPU clock speed actually decreased from 2.2 to 2.0 GHz but it got a new GPU which was massively faster, so the similarity in model number is deceiving. More importantly, he should just look at Android's Device HW info page instead because CPU-Z is misreporting the Snapdragon SoCs. This actually has the 680 released in Q4 2021 with TSMC's N6 node. It's "only" ~20% faster than the 665 in both CPU and GPU but at least the new process node means it's sapping a lot less power.
great review (as always), been looking at the daylight tablet with much interest, and was hoping something cheaper might spring up. also lol at you wearing the same shirt in the youtube playback section, thought it was funny
@@scaryifliteralcoincidentally im using the meme pfp but it is a meme from speedrun animation of botw or the old zelda cartoon but idk how that correlate with that timestamp. But i think theres an episode where zelda said something about link being short and he said excuuuuuuse me princess but im not sure cause its an old meme
@@scaryifliteral Uh.. don't know about any Zelda memes but this just sounds like a run-of-the-mill "That's what she said!" joke considering what you said at that timestamp.
Can you side load apks? I kinda want this device. But that slowness and lag really dissuade me. Is there something that's more smartphone like but at this size?
Thanks for the review! Two questions: 1) How Go7 performs with apps like Notion, Obsidian, Miro, Trello (mostly for reading notes, open links, navigating Kanban-desks, reorganizing cards) 2) What are your thoughts on security/personalization here: multiple users w different apps and books collections, password restrictions for logging in, installing apps from Google Play, etc. Thanks.
I'm sorry, I've never used any of those apps lol. Typing is not super fun in general, so I'd avoid "work" tasks on it. It'll be slow and not a ton of fun. I will say my wife and I both used this thing and it was fine. With Google apps you can have both accounts logged in. Just swipe down on the profile photo top right and it switches. Super easy.
@@scaryifliteral tbc, these apps are kind of wiki with a plenty of different notes sync across devices. One may use it on Go7-Go10 to read the notes and navigate links
Quality review. Waiting for my Boox to arrive today…
Pre-ordered mine already. Can't wait to receive it!
I'm impressed with this device overall, although I do wish it had pen support and was 8" in a more vertical format. I am seriously considering the larger one with the pen so I can use it for note taking. The fact that we have the Google App Store on them is such a huge bonus. The Kindle Scribe is great in many ways, except you can't do anything outside of what Amazon gives you, which is not enough.
For Ghosting, I just program one of the buttons so on Hold it does a full page refresh.
Discussed that option in the video
I truly wish you could use a stylus with this, because it seems to be better quality than the Big Me B571C & I like that it’s water-repellent. And having dyslexia, I can appreciate it having text-to-speech & being able to read book pages with ease (unlike screen reader on my paperwhite that reads everything on the page. Including images & the menu)
I have been buying Boox devices for a couple of years as I need handwriting for my thought processing... Unfortunately this one does not support stylus but Go 10.3 does and reminds reMarkable so it is likely that I will "test" that one later...👍
10.3 doesnt have backlight. I cant use it at night 😅
Nice! Looks like a great device.
Was very strongly considering this device as I love the openess of android, but leaning towards a used Kobo Libra 2 as I primarily care about reading in back and white and the color displays have less contrast than black and white (and Kobo is more optimized for reading). Wish I could just get both lol
Id like an e-ink smartphone.
(With Desktop mode if I’m being ambitious)
Check out the boox Palma
This one or the Boox Page? The ghosting issue is kinda putting me off
10:36 Speaker*
You can clearly see at 2:40 that the upper grill is fake with only one hole which is where the microphone is.
Thanks for your video. When testing the battery life did you turn off wifi? I have a Kindle Oasis and after getting the book(s) I would like to read, I turn on airplane mode and battery life for me, lasts into the weeks. I can't find a reason why you would leave wifi on especially if this is being used primarily to read? I ordered the Boox Color 7 yesterday.
Wi-Fi has been on the entire time. In that first week a lot of time was spent getting stuff downloaded, remembering things we wanted on there.
I am setting up my new device as we speak and if you don’t mind, I have a couple questions. How do you get rid of that quick button circle at the bottom right hand side of the device. When I want to use the buttons on the right side of the device to turn the pages, I have to hold down the button for half second for it to turn the page. Is there a way to set that up so as soon as you press it, it turns the page? Sometimes when I press the button it will skip a page?
@@scaryifliteral Update: I have been using the device 4 weeks now, in airplane mode and have 45% battery remaining.
eink seems to always have a significant bezel most likely due to the controllers running it. Adoption to eink is very niche which sets this kind of display technology at a very slow pace compared to back lit displays, but I really want a trans reflective screen on all of my devices that doesn't look like mud when playing video.
I think the reason for the bezel is because you need somewhere to grab without touching the screen. They are ment to be held similar to a book.
@@homie4235 I have yet to see a "bezel less" e-ink display even for diy kits. It seems the cabling and controller connectors need to be mounted to the side of the display and never behind it like backlit displays.
@@riopato2009 if by “bezel-less” you mean all-screen designs similar to the most recent iPhones and Samsung devices, I’m not sure how feasible it is with current e-ink tech. The small bezels on phones are enabled by literally bending the OLED display back into the phone body so the controller hardware can be given giving the all-screen appearance. This is only possible because OLED panels are natively flexible, and I’m not sure if e-ink screens can or ever will be able to do that. If they can/will, it will probably be prohibitively expensive especially at the low volumes ereaders sell at vs phones.
The bezels on the Boox Palma as well as some of their tablets are pretty slim and look nice, don’t you want to be able to hold your device a bit more easily without accidentally touching the screen?
I am a university student and I would like to see recorded classes on that boox go color 7 tablet, I can't pay more for a kaleido 3 screen, do you think it is possible to see my classes on this tablet or is it very annoying?
I would love one of these. I
I think it will be okey for manga but for comics it's too small, unless you want to zoom in and out every big speach buble. A normal android tabled will be cheaper and bigger and with better colours for comics specifically.
Honestly the colors are so washed out on the reader, no matter what color sliders I adjust it just cannot compete with an LCD/LED screen
E-Ink is never going to display colors like an LCD screen. These are two totally different technologies meant for different things. LCD is never going to work like E-Ink outdoors or provide the battery life either.
@scaryifliteral thanks for confirming what I said ig
It’s as simple as this: everything smaller than 8” is way too small and from 8.8” up to 10.5” is the ideal.
Depends on your purpose
Unless of course you disagree lol
8" is the sweet spot for me. 300 DPI of course.
Definitely so if you're guy in yours 40's and above.
For comic reading you should us Regal to eliminate ghosting not the faster settings. The faster scroll setting create more ghosting. Using the slower settings forces a cleaner refresh
enjoyed the review, waiting for them to release the white version
Huh. Don't see anyone mentioning it but.. don't use CPU-Z, it's misreporting Snapdragon SoCs; use the Device Info HW app instead. Like, for the Onyx Boox Page, CPU-Z also reported a Snapdragon 665 when it was the 662. The Boox Go Color 7 (and the Note Air3 C that you mentioned) uses the 680 which was released in Q4 2021. It's still the same chip as the 665, only clocked 20% faster but at least the process node changed from Samsung's 11nm to TSMC's 6nm, so it should use less power.
Only reason i didn’t but it is because of the lack of stylus support
The A2 refresh gets you the most ghosting
Does it let you uninstall the AI Assistant app?
Thanks for the solid review.
The page turning seems to be slow. I don't know why. A device with such high-end specs should perform better I suppose?
I just got mine, and my screen is nowhere near as rich as this... I'm so disappointed in the device, all videos I've seen make the screen look so much lighter and brighter than it is.
Maybe it's a stupid question, but... did you enable frontlighting? Because on color e-ink screens, that makes a big difference.
Make sure you're using the Frontlight 8:47
I just received my Boox yesterday and I am setting mine now, and I find the screen as good or slightly better than my Kindle Oasis.
You need extremely bright lighting for color eink. Most videos are using professional lighting equivalent to standing in the sun. You can crank up the front light but it'll severely reduce your battery life which is the main function of eink vs a tablet.
@@chiquita683 Exactly. I came to realize this with my Nova Color 3. Which is why my next device will be black-and-white again - I just don't really need color enough. Much rather prefer a longer battery runtime and better contrast.
My concern is battery life is it better than a iPad if it isn’t why bother. But would be nice to have a ink reader for comics in colour
Have you got an average on how many reading hours can the device provide? Thanks in advance
I'd really like it compared to the Kobo Libra Color! I think this one looks cleaner and more custom but the colors on Libra color is hard to pass up.
If I download the Kindle app, can I set a Kindle Book Cover of an ebook I'm reading on the Boox Color 7 lock screen?
I use a Kindle Oasis daily, and I wonder if this would satisfy my desire for a color Oasis.
I use an Oasis as well and I am expecting the Boox 7 color to be delivered today. I am quite realistic about the color rendering on this device and how it is going to deliver images. Also, I was just excited to upgrade to this device which has the same form factor as the Oasis but has a much faster processor, more ram, storage (internal and an sd card) and not least the ability to read books using other platforms..i.e one is not tied strictly to the Amazon ecosystem. Again having the ability to see books, comics etc, in color when available, and if not at least the book covers are, which would mimic the experience one would have with physical books in most cases.
@@mden2490 been a bit over a week, how are you liking the Boox compared to the Oasis for reading? Especially curious about the screen contrast and text legibility in medium-light situations (like outdoors in the shade)
@@goinginzane I sold my Oasis and the Boox is just as good as the Oasis to me. I do not have any issues reading the text and tweaked some of the settings to my liking and it's just great! I have not has nay issues in low or medium light conditions at all. My front light setting is at about 60% and I don't touch it. It's really great to be able to download your reading apps on the device and have more than one option to read books, magazines, comics etc. It was the same price as the oasis and yet you get a color display and basically an open system. I would rather have the option that mirrors what I would have as day to day experience., a color book cover, black and white inner pages. You can still have the option to read comics and other material in color. Sure it's not like looking at your iPad etc, but neither is looking at a newspaper in color or anything else on paper for that fact. You have to set the right expectation and you will not be disappointed. Those who are disappointed somehow want a $400 e reader for $200 dollars.....?
I think the Snapdragon 665 is even older since that's what my BlackBerry Key2 has. It still runs reasonably smoothly but yeah, it was hardly a powerhouse, even back then.
According to Wikipedia, the BlackBerry Key2 has the Snapdragon 660 which was released in Q2 2017 with Samsung's 14LPP process node while the 665 was released in Q2 2019 with Samsung's 11LPP node. The maximum CPU clock speed actually decreased from 2.2 to 2.0 GHz but it got a new GPU which was massively faster, so the similarity in model number is deceiving.
More importantly, he should just look at Android's Device HW info page instead because CPU-Z is misreporting the Snapdragon SoCs. This actually has the 680 released in Q4 2021 with TSMC's N6 node. It's "only" ~20% faster than the 665 in both CPU and GPU but at least the new process node means it's sapping a lot less power.
@@Lightkie Thanks for the correction.
great review (as always), been looking at the daylight tablet with much interest, and was hoping something cheaper might spring up.
also lol at you wearing the same shirt in the youtube playback section, thought it was funny
The boox palma is absolutely awesome.
small...
@1:50 well excuse me princess!
I genuinely have no idea what this comment could mean
@@scaryifliteralcoincidentally im using the meme pfp but it is a meme from speedrun animation of botw or the old zelda cartoon but idk how that correlate with that timestamp. But i think theres an episode where zelda said something about link being short and he said excuuuuuuse me princess but im not sure cause its an old meme
@@scaryifliteral Uh.. don't know about any Zelda memes but this just sounds like a run-of-the-mill "That's what she said!" joke considering what you said at that timestamp.
Can you side load apks?
I kinda want this device. But that slowness and lag really dissuade me. Is there something that's more smartphone like but at this size?
I think all e-ink devices are like this - it's meant to look like paper, not for rapid refresh rates.
Yes, there is. It is the TCL nxtpaper.
Thanks for the review! Two questions:
1) How Go7 performs with apps like Notion, Obsidian, Miro, Trello (mostly for reading notes, open links, navigating Kanban-desks, reorganizing cards)
2) What are your thoughts on security/personalization here: multiple users w different apps and books collections, password restrictions for logging in, installing apps from Google Play, etc.
Thanks.
I’m super interested to know how it would work for the bigger b&w Go10
I'm sorry, I've never used any of those apps lol. Typing is not super fun in general, so I'd avoid "work" tasks on it. It'll be slow and not a ton of fun. I will say my wife and I both used this thing and it was fine. With Google apps you can have both accounts logged in. Just swipe down on the profile photo top right and it switches. Super easy.
@@scaryifliteral understood. But does Go7 have at least password locked screen, so no one can read my Gmail in case the tablet is stolen?
@@scaryifliteral tbc, these apps are kind of wiki with a plenty of different notes sync across devices. One may use it on Go7-Go10 to read the notes and navigate links
They sacrificed the reading experience for some washed limited colors
You can always get leaf/page. Same form, b/w crisper resolution
Boox Go Color 7 or Bigme B751C?? Does Onyx support a kobo stylus??
I use my surface phone as a reader.