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Calling something studio monitor, doesn't mean it measures flat man. Neither sonos or JBL or yamaha hs etc are fla. Most hi fi speakers don't measure. Again even using klippel etc doesn't mean a damn thing. Physics, sounds wave, fourrier transformation means that space reflections and absorptions mean more than the speaker itself. As many here I have some hi fi experience and I don't care if something is flat when you put a sinewave sweep and measure it to be enjoyable. But as someone that mixes and not only produces but writes and plays his instruments, and electric guitar is the one all be all to get wrong on speakers with crossovers at around 2-3khz (...the whole lot of them) the edifiers are no worse neither better than anything out there. What they cannot do is surpass their power, amp and size. Don't expect to judge bass on their own. For the rest of the frequency spectrum and as long as you can double check your work in target systems and adjust accordingly they will do the job. But they are still quiet, 4 inchers with a good tweeter for desktop use. What they do beyond their price target is imaging. They image better than hi fi speakers costing...hundreds or even thousands more. As long as you are in front of them, for desktop use they almost sculpt a 3-d sound field and details are very accurately positioned. What more can you ask. They cost at around 80 euros nowadays. Shittier speakers with monitor tags cost more sometimes. Every company has its own philosophy and I guess by their standards they are correct...but those edifiers are very good for the price.
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I have a specific use case question, can you have both the trs and rca inputs connected to different sources and will it switch between the 2 depending on what is feeding info to the speakers. For example ( tv plugged into rca, and pc plugged into trs ) and whichever one may be on and sending audio, will come thru the speaker at that time ? This is a solution for me being able to use one pair of speakers for either my pc or tv whichever may be on and running.
I've had these for 2 weeks now and after getting a set of small speaker risers they came to life. Flat on a desktop, the bass was going right past me but bringing them up to about ear level with a small degree pitch it absolutely made all the difference in the world. When I was younger there was no such thing as narrow field speakers or monitors, at least not widely available to the general public. So this was my first introduction to them. I use them as studio monitors for recording guitar and as my computer monitors and they work and sound 2x their cost, easily. It gives me a very manageable balance for both purposes without having to sacrifice anything between the two. Just the right amount of bass response for recording to my DAW also! Much better balance with TRS cables too!
Hey, which stands you got for them? I am also looking for stands for these, and am not sure if i should get one of those angled stands (Kanto S4) or something that raises them at ear level.
The white ones look slick as hell, I genuinely can't stop glancing at them every time I wake up, they really make my setup stand out. When it comes to the audio quality, I'm not even a beginner myself but I can tell they could be better even for a desktop environment, but they get the job done and, even then, they sound way, way better than other rudimentary 'computer speakers'. So, all in all, I am really satisfied with these.
I can vouch for these. Recently purchased a pair and they are really good for the size and price. Not noticed any hiss even on RCA. My only criticism is the volume rocker is not very linear. Great buy though.
Does the volume knob have steps, and if so how many in total? In the video it looks as if the knob is turning continuously but could be just the movement of the hand that gives that impression.
That's the real kill here, the lack of a sub-out. Seen a lot of reviews for these. Edifier is clearly passing these around a lot. I'm glad to say I trust your review over many others.
Yeah, I ordered a pair of these as an upgrade for computer speakers. Should be delivered today. If the bass isn't acceptable, then I'll have to return em because of the lack of a sub out. From Joe's measurements, it looks like it'll be pretty anemic down low. I don't need this to thump like an SVS, but I want the bass to actually be present lol.
You can still add a sub if you wanted to, just by using a different connection setup. Also, a sub isn't needed and just a nice-to-have.. and also considering what you place value on (big sub bass).
I'm using these as monitors-I'm just an amateur musician, ok, but I can tell you that my current setup with MR4 + Eris subwoofer is way way better than my old Tascam 5" 2.1 system, which was a lot more expensive at the moment, and supposedly a lot more "professional" (and big and heavy and inefficient, too). Not to mention the Samson Mediaone BT4 pair I also own, which still are being sold at around 165 €, which sound nice, but much less controlled and much less balanced than the Edifier. I'm really blown away by the quality of the MR4. I'm spending hours on listening to very well known music-and enjoying it like if it was new!...and also listening to my own productions and understanding much better than before what is wrong about them. And the only thing I could miss is the bottom end I'm getting with the Presonus sub. I think there are things that a frequency test do not show. Like how, when placed correctly (and that is not too close, let them breath!), these very inexpensive speakers give an amazing stereo image and an incredible amount of detail, while preserving the overall character of the recording. A tad too bright to be perfectly flat?...that was in fact my impression, but they also sound to me pretty much like the Tin Audio T2 IEMs or the Sennheiser 650s headphones I've been using lately, both praised (or detested) for its neutral, analytical, balanced presentation. I was in fact listening to an old BSO by Michael Nyman (digitally remastered, mm...) and thinking It sounded like crap on the MR4s. Guess what, it sounded exactly as crappy in the Sennheiser cans. Other than that, good for (competitive) gaming? Sure!, a good stereo image and detail and not too much bass is exactly what you want. Good as general purpose PC speakers? They got the quality you may want indeed, but I would look for a more gentle, HiFi sound signature. Good for a Tv set? No, they are not that loud, and they have this somewhat narrow sweet spot which was presented in this review as a disadvantage, and in fact it is for general uses, but pretty much the contrary when used for what they are intended. And well, I'm still tempted to go for the Adam TV5s as my main monitors, but I'm not that sure they will be really much better. Call me crazy.
@Košičan z Košíc Yep, those. I never liked them much, really. But these days I'm using the MR4 to monitor piano and synthesizers and getting some pretty bad resonances (on piano sounds, the E4 key makes the passive speaker buzz like crazy...). That was never a problem with the Tascam, since they are way more powerful and heavy. I have to say I need the MR4 to be set at max volume since I'm in a medium sized room, and I may be asking too much of them. As a secondary monitor set (or multimedia/video monitoring) I still think they'r brilliant, and I'm pretty sure you will enjoy them.
@@marcosseno Studio subwoofers like the Eris have inputs and outputs (plus filters, so you can set which range of frequencies the sub handles and which the speakers), so you don't need the speakers to have a dedicated output ( Edifier has also a standalone sub with also has inputs, outputs and a filter), You connect your soundcard/computer/whatever source first to the sub, and then the output from the sub to the speakers, either with balanced 8" jack cables or RCA.
They seem pretty good for the price. I'm using Audioenging HD3s which cost 3x as much, and they definitely sound "boxy" to me. I had to mess around trying to analyze the curve using just my iphone mic, and winging it with a PEQ. Decent results eventually but if I have to go to those lenghs with a $300 pair, these are pretty decent for a home office.
I have both the S1000DB and S1280DB. The 1280DBs are $99 to $129 depending on Sale, and beat out, hands down, any of those single bar Blue Tooth speakers or those cylinder speakers out there for casual listening. I use them with my Kindle when watching movies or video. The 1000DBs are a great music monitor in my office/gaming room. Are there better choices out there, yes, but they cost more money. Funny, I bought the 1000's first for my bedroom, but they are too big for that application as I wanted something small and unobtrusive in that situation. The 1280's are small, don't really notice them until I use them. Remember, with Blue Tooth, max out your source Volume and use the speakers to adjust listening volume for best results. Bluetooth removes information as you lower the volume, where as powered speakers or receivers/amps remove gain.
Not sure how I missed this one. Thanks for always putting in the hard work. Enjoyed the switching camera angles when you were speaking. You are so polished and professional in front of the camera. Love you man.
Thanks for this video. Almost about to buy the MR4s... Had me thinking again. So which studio monitor speakers would you recommend for the same price range? Thanks again.
For higher volumes, the bigger most powerfull one... They start to click and produce some digital artifacts in higher volumes. They are small speakers in the end.
A sub isn't necessary for music production. Yes, its good to have for reference but you should be mixing and mastering bass in headphones or a VERY controlled room which most don't have. So nah, a sub isn't needed for that and is a nice-to-have.. especially if you aren't doing bass-intensive genre like hip hop. Also you can add a sub by going a different route/setup with MR4s, they just don't have a dedicated sub out.
Yeah, I see Edifier speakers as low to lower mid range computer speakers. They also beat a lot of sound bars, especially ones without subs and are a lot better than many single unit Bluetooth speakers. Definitely not close to professional monitors but a step up from single driver 1 way speakers and provide a pretty good sound for the price. Personally I'd get some KEF's and a Yamaha amp on the used market and get some really good sound for not much more.
Bad for you. Cause Edifier speakers is a proper bookshelf active speakers (not those plastic crap without tweeters like Logitech or something - which made only for playing system sounds, not for music. "boop boop, beep beep"). Talking about monitors - come on, man. MR4 is entry level home studio monitors, such as those from Mackie and Presonus Eris. And MR4 competes with them without hesitation. No one is saying that this is super professional studio monitors and a Barefoot/Adam/KRK/Kali killer.
@@КонстантинВознесенский-й7к Mackies are not studio monitors, they are not flat. Even their own website says it. Great for regular music listening, but too colored for mixing/mastering.
2:01 What is that watch you’re wearing broski. All I could see was the copper indices. Looks dope on wrist even if I did only get a glance at it. Looks like a Casio g shock
Yessir! Good eye. It's the G-Shock GMAS-2100-1A aka the "CasiOak" because the shape resembles the Audemars Piquet Royal Oak. This is considered a women's watch, but I chose it because I liked the rose gold accents and I don't like overly bulky watches.
They changed the chip inside without telling. It's now a Chinese made chip with theoritically same specs as the TAS5713 from Texas Instrument. A guy did a tear down in 2023, and this was his findings. So, if you bought a unit made before 2023, chance is it's still texas instrument. For product at this level, I'm not sure how big of an issue it is to you, but you should know it before you buy
These don't have a subwoofer output, so get a sub that has both inputs and outputs. The Presonus Sub8 has RCA and balanced outputs. I use them with My Presonus Eris 3.5BT monitors that way and it's amazeballs.
Hi, I'm debating between 2 speakers. The Edifier 1280DB and the Edifier MR4. Only use it for a little bit of music, films etc.. It's a casual use. The 1280 are 95€ and the MR4 are 130€. Wich one should I get in your opinion? (I like the looks of both but If I had to choose I prefer the 1280DB)
Hi, casual listener here. I made a bit research the last few days because I was deciding to upgrade from my Creative Gigaworks T20 II (from my perspective great speakers for their price) and I think if you want more bass and bluetooth, go R1280DB, plus sub-out R1280DBs, or more neutral and better sound quality MR4. There's also new R1380DB that got better tweeters from R1700BT. There's also the question what outputs you'll use so check that in these variants too.
my two cents - Check "Edifier MR4 vs Edifier R1280DBs sound demo". Id say consider other Edifiers, 1280 are boomy: 1380DB - they are halfway between fun tuning of usual speakers and monitor flat precision. If u want it even cheaper, 1010BT, they are more sound neutral, but lack that punch. If u want sound fun wtih bit more details in the mids and stylish look, look up for some discounted 1700 BT(pr BTs. of u plan subwoofer later). But reason why MR4 wins over any of those is they can play mids very well, which is kinda impossible to find under 150 eur category.
So i just ordered these and im looking for a set of stands. Should i go for angled stands or taller stands to get the speakers at ear level? Have the space for both options, not sure which is better.
I just discover how to set this speaker to boost bass of it like its magic! Set 6db at the back and set your Bass Enhancement in Control Panel to 6db and 75hrz. Works like magic! But undo after cause i do really wanted to hear the detailed of the music not just the bass.
Hey man I'm back. 2 comments I forgot to put last time. 1) Would be great to hear your opinions on soundstage when you test these speakers. Maybe you do mention it, and I know you do the binaural thing sometimes, but I feel for so-called monitors that's quite important. Also 2) I had fun spotting your watch changes. I have the same CasiOak but reshelled in steel. Affordable cool watches for the win!
when we add a subwoofer we usually cut the speakers below 80 hz so speakers with larger woofer are no longer needed to go below 80hz, what is the optimum speaker woofer size for best sound quality when add a sub and cut the speakers below 80hz (3,4,5,7" ?) thanks
Depends on the sub. Some speakers perform great down to 50 hz so why change that. Some subs are a mess with wide dispersion of incoherent bass and some are the opposite, powerfull, big they separate the notes very well etc but don't seem to put out so much bass...depends what you ask.
I have a specific use case question, can you have both the trs and rca inputs connected to different sources and will it switch between the 2 depending on what is feeding info to the speakers. For example ( tv plugged into rca, and pc plugged into trs ) and whichever one may be on and sending audio, will come thru the speaker at that time ? This is a solution for me being able to use one pair of speakers for either my pc or tv whichever may be on and running.
I see .75 tweets acting as sort of super tweeters in 3 & 4 way designs, some might say they perform a bit better over 10k than a 1”, so it’s interesting to see them in this design, might present crossover design challenges 😂
@@joentell they do. The little sub that comes with the package is effective. I was just thinking about whether or not they have a flat response for editing. I bet yours are better for that.
I haven't tried the others. Whichever one measures the flattest is best for that purpose. Make sure you get a sub for most of those, these don't have a ton of bass.
Like the new logo, great video as always, except for the awful speakers. You changed the camera angle when you said "I like it round," I may have to do a remix video with that. Joe likes it round, I like it round, I like it round...
Hi. Sub and thumb up 👍 Can You recommend monitors in close price range to mastering music please? I'm not on a big budget but I guess my AKG K702 is not enough...I have to buy some small monitors to make comparisons in the sound and check overall result. Greetings from the Polish Coast 🇵🇱🤘
There's nothing better at that point price. Very nice clean soundstage and more 'realistic' than the super popular 1280. If you need BASS and feel like you need a SUB you look elsewhere, it's a different kind of product.
The review is supposed to be about the speakers. I see more of you and hear more of you than I see or hear the speakers. So, was this review more about you or the speakers?
@@madboyreadynow28 so do you prefer a speaker review video containing a speaker just playing sound the entire time without someone talking about the speaker itself? Wild, man. Wild.
Calling these speakers studio monitors is misleading. Their characteristics are not flat. Yes, they are good computer speakers, but its not suitable for music production.
Nothing I would say is too disappointing considering the price for powered speakers. I just wished they did a better job with DSP because that doesn't add to the cost of manufacturing.
Affordable speakers are where I started and I will always make time to review some I think might be promising. People who are new to audio don't want to spend a lot, so I'm always trying to find the best bang for your buck. I'm still using the Monolith Encore speakers in my main home theater system and their bookshelf speakers are $260 a pair and I think they're awesome! Also, Edifier sells the most speakers on Amazon than any other company, and lots of well known companies sell on Amazon.
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Please help me with my mr4 .
My mr4 are cutting my sounds . When my bass is to loud why is it ??
Calling something studio monitor, doesn't mean it measures flat man. Neither sonos or JBL or yamaha hs etc are fla. Most hi fi speakers don't measure. Again even using klippel etc doesn't mean a damn thing. Physics, sounds wave, fourrier transformation means that space reflections and absorptions mean more than the speaker itself.
As many here I have some hi fi experience and I don't care if something is flat when you put a sinewave sweep and measure it to be enjoyable.
But as someone that mixes and not only produces but writes and plays his instruments, and electric guitar is the one all be all to get wrong on speakers with crossovers at around 2-3khz (...the whole lot of them) the edifiers are no worse neither better than anything out there. What they cannot do is surpass their power, amp and size. Don't expect to judge bass on their own.
For the rest of the frequency spectrum and as long as you can double check your work in target systems and adjust accordingly they will do the job. But they are still quiet, 4 inchers with a good tweeter for desktop use.
What they do beyond their price target is imaging. They image better than hi fi speakers costing...hundreds or even thousands more. As long as you are in front of them, for desktop use they almost sculpt a 3-d sound field and details are very accurately positioned. What more can you ask. They cost at around 80 euros nowadays.
Shittier speakers with monitor tags cost more sometimes. Every company has its own philosophy and I guess by their standards they are correct...but those edifiers are very good for the price.
@@81giorikas You should start a channel. It seems you have strong opinions and some experience with audio. People will tune in.
@@joentell I have another career and family, for 10-15000 a month I wouldn't even bother
@@81giorikas you don't have to do it for the money. Do it for the same reason why you commented on my video.
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which one is better compared to 1280Ts?
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Can you connect your t5 sub to this using an RCA splitter?
Now this is the kind of response companies should be doing, good job taking the criticism and saying you will consider it
I have a specific use case question, can you have both the trs and rca inputs connected to different sources and will it switch between the 2 depending on what is feeding info to the speakers. For example ( tv plugged into rca, and pc plugged into trs ) and whichever one may be on and sending audio, will come thru the speaker at that time ? This is a solution for me being able to use one pair of speakers for either my pc or tv whichever may be on and running.
@@fransarj you plug source into T5 and plug these speakers into the T5
I've had these for 2 weeks now and after getting a set of small speaker risers they came to life. Flat on a desktop, the bass was going right past me but bringing them up to about ear level with a small degree pitch it absolutely made all the difference in the world. When I was younger there was no such thing as narrow field speakers or monitors, at least not widely available to the general public. So this was my first introduction to them. I use them as studio monitors for recording guitar and as my computer monitors and they work and sound 2x their cost, easily. It gives me a very manageable balance for both purposes without having to sacrifice anything between the two. Just the right amount of bass response for recording to my DAW also! Much better balance with TRS cables too!
Hey, which stands you got for them? I am also looking for stands for these, and am not sure if i should get one of those angled stands (Kanto S4) or something that raises them at ear level.
Ты уверен что с балансными кабелями trs звук гораздо лучше?
The white ones look slick as hell, I genuinely can't stop glancing at them every time I wake up, they really make my setup stand out.
When it comes to the audio quality, I'm not even a beginner myself but I can tell they could be better even for a desktop environment, but they get the job done and, even then, they sound way, way better than other rudimentary 'computer speakers'. So, all in all, I am really satisfied with these.
I can vouch for these. Recently purchased a pair and they are really good for the size and price. Not noticed any hiss even on RCA. My only criticism is the volume rocker is not very linear. Great buy though.
Hey man, what else comes with the speaker, do the cables come as well ?
Does the volume knob have steps, and if so how many in total? In the video it looks as if the knob is turning continuously but could be just the movement of the hand that gives that impression.
These cost $55 here in China now! 😎 I've had my current Edifier speakers for 12 years! But bass on one seems to be blown now...😅
That's the real kill here, the lack of a sub-out. Seen a lot of reviews for these. Edifier is clearly passing these around a lot. I'm glad to say I trust your review over many others.
🙏 Measurements keep me in check
Yeah, I ordered a pair of these as an upgrade for computer speakers. Should be delivered today. If the bass isn't acceptable, then I'll have to return em because of the lack of a sub out. From Joe's measurements, it looks like it'll be pretty anemic down low. I don't need this to thump like an SVS, but I want the bass to actually be present lol.
You can still add a sub if you wanted to, just by using a different connection setup. Also, a sub isn't needed and just a nice-to-have.. and also considering what you place value on (big sub bass).
great video...btw these are now $84.48 on Amazons prime day deals today , tomorrow etc.
I'm using these as monitors-I'm just an amateur musician, ok, but I can tell you that my current setup with MR4 + Eris subwoofer is way way better than my old Tascam 5" 2.1 system, which was a lot more expensive at the moment, and supposedly a lot more "professional" (and big and heavy and inefficient, too). Not to mention the Samson Mediaone BT4 pair I also own, which still are being sold at around 165 €, which sound nice, but much less controlled and much less balanced than the Edifier.
I'm really blown away by the quality of the MR4. I'm spending hours on listening to very well known music-and enjoying it like if it was new!...and also listening to my own productions and understanding much better than before what is wrong about them. And the only thing I could miss is the bottom end I'm getting with the Presonus sub.
I think there are things that a frequency test do not show. Like how, when placed correctly (and that is not too close, let them breath!), these very inexpensive speakers give an amazing stereo image and an incredible amount of detail, while preserving the overall character of the recording. A tad too bright to be perfectly flat?...that was in fact my impression, but they also sound to me pretty much like the Tin Audio T2 IEMs or the Sennheiser 650s headphones I've been using lately, both praised (or detested) for its neutral, analytical, balanced presentation. I was in fact listening to an old BSO by Michael Nyman (digitally remastered, mm...) and thinking It sounded like crap on the MR4s. Guess what, it sounded exactly as crappy in the Sennheiser cans.
Other than that, good for (competitive) gaming? Sure!, a good stereo image and detail and not too much bass is exactly what you want. Good as general purpose PC speakers? They got the quality you may want indeed, but I would look for a more gentle, HiFi sound signature. Good for a Tv set? No, they are not that loud, and they have this somewhat narrow sweet spot which was presented in this review as a disadvantage, and in fact it is for general uses, but pretty much the contrary when used for what they are intended.
And well, I'm still tempted to go for the Adam TV5s as my main monitors, but I'm not that sure they will be really much better. Call me crazy.
how do you cable the subwoofer to be part of the system?
@Košičan z Košíc Yep, those. I never liked them much, really. But these days I'm using the MR4 to monitor piano and synthesizers and getting some pretty bad resonances (on piano sounds, the E4 key makes the passive speaker buzz like crazy...). That was never a problem with the Tascam, since they are way more powerful and heavy. I have to say I need the MR4 to be set at max volume since I'm in a medium sized room, and I may be asking too much of them. As a secondary monitor set (or multimedia/video monitoring) I still think they'r brilliant, and I'm pretty sure you will enjoy them.
@@marcosseno Studio subwoofers like the Eris have inputs and outputs (plus filters, so you can set which range of frequencies the sub handles and which the speakers), so you don't need the speakers to have a dedicated output ( Edifier has also a standalone sub with also has inputs, outputs and a filter), You connect your soundcard/computer/whatever source first to the sub, and then the output from the sub to the speakers, either with balanced 8" jack cables or RCA.
@@WMRhapsodies aaa great
They seem pretty good for the price. I'm using Audioenging HD3s which cost 3x as much, and they definitely sound "boxy" to me. I had to mess around trying to analyze the curve using just my iphone mic, and winging it with a PEQ. Decent results eventually but if I have to go to those lenghs with a $300 pair, these are pretty decent for a home office.
I think if you manage your expectations, and if you can EQ these, you might be able to make them sound better than you might expect at this price.
Came for a speaker review, stayed for the Grand Seiko on the wrist!
got mine for $62 a week ago, never used my iems since having these, worth every penny 😭😭😭
I have both the S1000DB and S1280DB. The 1280DBs are $99 to $129 depending on Sale, and beat out, hands down, any of those single bar Blue Tooth speakers or those cylinder speakers out there for casual listening. I use them with my Kindle when watching movies or video. The 1000DBs are a great music monitor in my office/gaming room. Are there better choices out there, yes, but they cost more money. Funny, I bought the 1000's first for my bedroom, but they are too big for that application as I wanted something small and unobtrusive in that situation. The 1280's are small, don't really notice them until I use them.
Remember, with Blue Tooth, max out your source Volume and use the speakers to adjust listening volume for best results. Bluetooth removes information as you lower the volume, where as powered speakers or receivers/amps remove gain.
been using this for almost a year. good sound separation
Not sure how I missed this one. Thanks for always putting in the hard work. Enjoyed the switching camera angles when you were speaking. You are so polished and professional in front of the camera. Love you man.
Random camera switch a trend since 2021 :D Some guys use such thing too much..
Anyway about video.. Edifier MR4 is much better compared to Eris E3.5
got it for 45 bucks.
A little hopeful im getting the new firmware one.
If not then ill just eq it a bit to curb the sharp frequencies no problemo
Would you recommend this over the razor nommo speakers?
Thanks for this video. Almost about to buy the MR4s... Had me thinking again. So which studio monitor speakers would you recommend for the same price range? Thanks again.
Out of MR4 OR 1700bts OR PRESONUS 3.5 Bt which one is better for listening music and games.in terms of sound separation, soundstage ,clarity and base.
For higher volumes, the bigger most powerfull one...
They start to click and produce some digital artifacts in higher volumes. They are small speakers in the end.
A sub isn't necessary for music production. Yes, its good to have for reference but you should be mixing and mastering bass in headphones or a VERY controlled room which most don't have. So nah, a sub isn't needed for that and is a nice-to-have.. especially if you aren't doing bass-intensive genre like hip hop. Also you can add a sub by going a different route/setup with MR4s, they just don't have a dedicated sub out.
Yeah, I see Edifier speakers as low to lower mid range computer speakers. They also beat a lot of sound bars, especially ones without subs and are a lot better than many single unit Bluetooth speakers. Definitely not close to professional monitors but a step up from single driver 1 way speakers and provide a pretty good sound for the price.
Personally I'd get some KEF's and a Yamaha amp on the used market and get some really good sound for not much more.
Bad for you. Cause Edifier speakers is a proper bookshelf active speakers (not those plastic crap without tweeters like Logitech or something - which made only for playing system sounds, not for music. "boop boop, beep beep").
Talking about monitors - come on, man. MR4 is entry level home studio monitors, such as those from Mackie and Presonus Eris. And MR4 competes with them without hesitation. No one is saying that this is super professional studio monitors and a Barefoot/Adam/KRK/Kali killer.
What do you think about this and Logitech Z625?
@@КонстантинВознесенский-й7к Mackies are not studio monitors, they are not flat. Even their own website says it. Great for regular music listening, but too colored for mixing/mastering.
2:01 What is that watch you’re wearing broski. All I could see was the copper indices. Looks dope on wrist even if I did only get a glance at it. Looks like a Casio g shock
Yessir! Good eye. It's the G-Shock GMAS-2100-1A aka the "CasiOak" because the shape resembles the Audemars Piquet Royal Oak. This is considered a women's watch, but I chose it because I liked the rose gold accents and I don't like overly bulky watches.
Merhaba , Edifer MR4 mü yoksa M-Audio BX4 mü almalıyım ? Karar veremiyorum
They changed the chip inside without telling. It's now a Chinese made chip with theoritically same specs as the TAS5713 from Texas Instrument. A guy did a tear down in 2023, and this was his findings. So, if you bought a unit made before 2023, chance is it's still texas instrument. For product at this level, I'm not sure how big of an issue it is to you, but you should know it before you buy
These don't have a subwoofer output, so get a sub that has both inputs and outputs. The Presonus Sub8 has RCA and balanced outputs. I use them with My Presonus Eris 3.5BT monitors that way and it's amazeballs.
Hi, I'm debating between 2 speakers. The Edifier 1280DB and the Edifier MR4. Only use it for a little bit of music, films etc.. It's a casual use. The 1280 are 95€ and the MR4 are 130€. Wich one should I get in your opinion? (I like the looks of both but If I had to choose I prefer the 1280DB)
Hi, casual listener here. I made a bit research the last few days because I was deciding to upgrade from my Creative Gigaworks T20 II (from my perspective great speakers for their price) and I think if you want more bass and bluetooth, go R1280DB, plus sub-out R1280DBs, or more neutral and better sound quality MR4. There's also new R1380DB that got better tweeters from R1700BT. There's also the question what outputs you'll use so check that in these variants too.
my two cents - Check "Edifier MR4 vs Edifier R1280DBs sound demo". Id say consider other Edifiers, 1280 are boomy: 1380DB - they are halfway between fun tuning of usual speakers and monitor flat precision. If u want it even cheaper, 1010BT, they are more sound neutral, but lack that punch. If u want sound fun wtih bit more details in the mids and stylish look, look up for some discounted 1700 BT(pr BTs. of u plan subwoofer later). But reason why MR4 wins over any of those is they can play mids very well, which is kinda impossible to find under 150 eur category.
So i just ordered these and im looking for a set of stands. Should i go for angled stands or taller stands to get the speakers at ear level? Have the space for both options, not sure which is better.
Hello this monitor good for voiceover?
I just discover how to set this speaker to boost bass of it like its magic! Set 6db at the back and set your Bass Enhancement in Control Panel to 6db and 75hrz. Works like magic! But undo after cause i do really wanted to hear the detailed of the music not just the bass.
Hey man I'm back. 2 comments I forgot to put last time. 1) Would be great to hear your opinions on soundstage when you test these speakers. Maybe you do mention it, and I know you do the binaural thing sometimes, but I feel for so-called monitors that's quite important. Also 2) I had fun spotting your watch changes. I have the same CasiOak but reshelled in steel. Affordable cool watches for the win!
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when we add a subwoofer we usually cut the speakers below 80 hz so speakers with larger woofer are no longer needed to go below 80hz, what is the optimum speaker woofer size for best sound quality when add a sub and cut the speakers below 80hz (3,4,5,7" ?) thanks
Depends on the sub. Some speakers perform great down to 50 hz so why change that. Some subs are a mess with wide dispersion of incoherent bass and some are the opposite, powerfull, big they separate the notes very well etc but don't seem to put out so much bass...depends what you ask.
I have a specific use case question, can you have both the trs and rca inputs connected to different sources and will it switch between the 2 depending on what is feeding info to the speakers. For example ( tv plugged into rca, and pc plugged into trs ) and whichever one may be on and sending audio, will come thru the speaker at that time ? This is a solution for me being able to use one pair of speakers for either my pc or tv whichever may be on and running.
Can't we have speakers with updatable firmware? If it was that simple as Joe says.
I see .75 tweets acting as sort of super tweeters in 3 & 4 way designs, some might say they perform a bit better over 10k than a 1”, so it’s interesting to see them in this design, might present crossover design challenges 😂
The buchart speakers use a . 75 it's all about the driver parameters, not the size.
@@Luke-qs2cg Would that imply that Sd is not a paremeter and therefore Vd?
Or that a 0.75 could play the entire audible range for that matter?
How they compare to Bose Companion 2?
Which studio speakers do you use at you desk for editing, Joe?
I'm testing out the Kali Audio LP6V2. I usually use the Kali Audio IN-5's.
@@joentell nice ok. I’m using the Bose Companion 5…prolly not the best 🥴
@@krupkake1 I've heard those and they had surprising bass.
@@joentell they do. The little sub that comes with the package is effective. I was just thinking about whether or not they have a flat response for editing. I bet yours are better for that.
Does the volume knob have steps, and if so how many in total?
It does. Around 10 steps.
How do you not have them on a desk or something so we can see the size
I love the wall panels. Are they foam? Do they help with sound ?
Plastic. Just for looks
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For video editing purpose which one is better? Edifier MR4 or Presonus Studio Monitor 0 Erise3.5
I haven't tried the others. Whichever one measures the flattest is best for that purpose. Make sure you get a sub for most of those, these don't have a ton of bass.
Thank you for the review, are you recommending +6db for bass and +3db for treble in monitor mode?
I don't remember exactly, but I was just going based on what gave me the flattest response.
i just got this one, good if price under $55, dont expect much from 21w speaker. if u have amp and good sub, it will be a bargain.
Thank U for charts that explained a lot about quality of this speaker.
Like the new logo, great video as always, except for the awful speakers. You changed the camera angle when you said "I like it round," I may have to do a remix video with that. Joe likes it round, I like it round, I like it round...
Thank you for sharing your idea!! I bought this speaker recently😍
What about Edifier R1000T4? You can get these for holy $40 where I live. MR4 might sound a little bit better but not $60+ better 😅
Ik this is an old video but do these speakers also work for a tv?
Ofc they do. Just connect with RCA cables and you are all set
so the recommendation is max bass, treble on mid on music mode or monitor mode ?
Correct. In monitor mode. You can still do a lot better if you can apply custom parametric EQ (PEQ).
So for the 1 inch twitter is smaller, its because china's 1 inch is a bit smaller than the us 1 inch
Yoo even if it’s a studio monitor can I still use it for gaming?
Sure. The monitor tag doesn't mean anything.
I'm trying to decide between this or the Creative GigaWorks T20 Series II for PC speakers.
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I wonder how these compare to the Edifier R1280T you reviewed a while back.
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Can i place it horizontally?
You shouldn't because the response off-axis above or below the tweeter is worse than to either side of the speaker.
wow really love ur honesty
I also have hiss speaker, my dad told me internal amplifier always hiss like that. So we use external amplifier and no hiss anymore.
How did you use? The one speaker is powered you have to open it up, cut it and not use its dsp. I doubt you did all of that.
Hey man, any chance you will review the r1380db too? Thanks
I thought the measurement for the tweeter was 19mm?
Are they good for gaming?
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For whatever reason your mic had a bit of a high pitch squeak here and there
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Can You recommend monitors in close price range to mastering music please? I'm not on a big budget but I guess my AKG K702 is not enough...I have to buy some small monitors to make comparisons in the sound and check overall result.
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Nice suggestion. Thanks man 👍
Top review thanks.
Thank you for the review ,I would appreciate if you could review some powered speakers from Edifier like the s2000 mkii, S300Pro and airpuls A300PRO
You should measure the classic stdio monitor Yamaha ns10. Why do people who never listen to neutral complain about something not being neutral?
Are the Presonus Eris 3.5 a better option?
No :)
What do you guys think about this compared to Logitech Z625?
There's nothing better at that point price. Very nice clean soundstage and more 'realistic' than the super popular 1280. If you need BASS and feel like you need a SUB you look elsewhere, it's a different kind of product.
look else where? you can easily add a studio monitor sub to these.
@@SuperDaveTX1 so true just add sub
Great review!
I like their small r12u
What is that on your walls?
Decoration only
6:27 Fresh Hater Jay keeping it real. Appreciate the honesty you bring to all your reviews.
The review is supposed to be about the speakers. I see more of you and hear more of you than I see or hear the speakers. So, was this review more about you or the speakers?
@@madboyreadynow28 so do you prefer a speaker review video containing a speaker just playing sound the entire time without someone talking about the speaker itself? Wild, man. Wild.
@@japhletaranas9171 Make the review about the product.
'Cool!
This MR4's is for artists,musicians, producers.. If for gaming, it can but not...
Thanks for this, I'll check this out.
Nope, they say one inch don't they. Nice catch.
Can my neighbors hear me rocking ???
I brought them back .. the guy is right there was a his .. and the bass was way too much.. I buyed presonus E4 .5 .. these are better..
Calling these speakers studio monitors is misleading. Their characteristics are not flat. Yes, they are good computer speakers, but its not suitable for music production.
as edifier user with kind of different product, this things is fcked haha, just seen the mr4, it just multimedia speaker with studio monitor look
Yeah, really disappointed on Edifier with this one.
Nothing I would say is too disappointing considering the price for powered speakers. I just wished they did a better job with DSP because that doesn't add to the cost of manufacturing.
尴尬的是，在中国它只卖399RMB。。。
I'm not a bass head but disappointed at any company misrepresenting a product like with these MR4's - on goes the search for desk top speakers 🤣
these have good bass... do you believe every yt video you ever watch? Just look at most reviews, the bass is great for what they are.
The speaker market has to be extremely slow if your reviewing Edifier Speakers. Lol.
Affordable speakers are where I started and I will always make time to review some I think might be promising. People who are new to audio don't want to spend a lot, so I'm always trying to find the best bang for your buck. I'm still using the Monolith Encore speakers in my main home theater system and their bookshelf speakers are $260 a pair and I think they're awesome!
Also, Edifier sells the most speakers on Amazon than any other company, and lots of well known companies sell on Amazon.
Need 5.5" or bigger for studio monitoring..4" is not enough for monitoring.