The Japanese Case People STILL Talk About
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
- Knight Scoop is a popular Japanese variety show that takes on viewer-requested mysteries. Today, we’re taking a look at the first and only time a mystery on Knight Scoop was deemed unsolvable and suddenly dropped completely. The one singular time since its premiere in 1988.
Why was that? Was there more to it?
Today we’re exploring an unsolved mystery known as the vinyl rope incident.
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as a person with ocd, the fact that she was terrified of stopping tying the ties rings the bell; it could be a compulsion, and schizophrenia is often associated with higher rates of ocd.
Thank you for sharing. I sincerely hope this woman had some form of help and support if her condition was this severe 😞
Its not really a fact
@@kingpen5866 semantics
Same
I had exactly the same thought, as someone else with OCD.
This was always my assumption. They probably figured out who was doing it and why, but it probably was a sad story. Since the show was clearly made to be humorous, putting a mentally ill person on blast on national television for laughs would've been in very bad taste. That would also explain why the store owner refused to talk about it. How would you react if a TV crew of comedians came in asking about it? I'd be afraid they came here to make fun of her.
Same with the cops leaving when approached they probably knew about the situation.
Or the person's caretaker just didn't give consent and they have to abide or the whole TV network would get fines and sued.
I'm kind of scared the ties are gone, not because she got help, but because the neighborhood people started to aggressively remove them after it got them media attention.
@@dsan17that’s basically every country not limited to Japan bro 😅
Now I am very curious... What happened to the chunky dog? Where else did he get his food? What was the extra food? So many questions...
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I'll bet top dollar that friendly neighbors kept feeding the chonker.
I haven't heard about this happening with dogs, but with cats. Some cats "have" two houses. They're treated like outdoor cats, the ones that come and go, so both families think they own the cat, so the cat eats food twice a day or more. I think maybe something happens too like that with the chonker.
ua-cam.com/video/ZBDnjjGZcKk/v-deo.html here’s that episode!
@@SakuraStardust That episode was hilarious.
Fun fact: the Colonel Sanders incident directly inspired one of Sonic Adventure’s most beloved “NPCs”:The Burger Man Statue. He’s so beloved in the fandom that the Sonic Symphony Orchestra included footage of him in their Sonic Adventure Medley.
I was literally just thinking about that! As soon as that story was brought up in this video, all these years later after playing it on my Dreamcast as a kid, it now make sense. I thought it ways always a weird point that the citizens in the game mentioned that the Statue would have a super natural element to it and move on its own. I figured that this little fact would lend the game doing something creative with the Statue, but nothing happens. I always felt something was missing in translation!
Yakuza 0 has a reference in there too where you can see it underwater
I would purposely get rid of him. Usually by dropping him down the open manhole.
Colonial Sanders has way different vibes from Colonel Sanders.
@@FrenkTheJoy oh my god I didn’t even realize my typo, d’oh
Didn't expect to see the article I used two years ago for a college assignment to pop up in this video.
On a more serious note, them cutting the episode short, due to them finding out the person doing this was mentally ill sounds like a very reasonable conclusion to the case.
I figured that it was going to be an individual with mental illness. There’s a similar story with the Toynbee Tiles in Chicago. When people lack proper care and are isolated from their communities they will latch on to anything to cope.
Wait who solved the Toynbee tiles mystery and who is mentally ill?
@@pettykittyfam I got the city wrong, it’s Philadelphia. It’s never been officially confirmed, but a lot of Phili locals say that the original tiles were all made by one reclusive guy. He apparently cut a hole in the bottom of his car to be able to make the tiles without getting noticed. He was known to the public and would rant about similar stuff over his short wave radio. There’s a documentary about it. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resurrect_Dead:_The_Mystery_of_the_Toynbee_Tiles
I know that they handled the whole thing rather strangely and abruptly, but I think that it was also potentially (although by no means exclusively) their attempt to allow the woman in question to retain their dignity. Just imagine how much added stress and anxiety she would have faced in unintentionally becoming a tourist attraction of sorts?
And whilst I wholeheartedly agree with you about Japan's attitudes towards both mental health and disability in general im thankful that by design or accident this woman was spared from the media circus and sideshowesque objectification that featuring her would have likely entailed.
Oh and thanks as always for your hard work on your content! You really have become one of my absolute favourite channels for the strange and quirky (and occasionally tragic) aspects of Japan that I would have no chance of hearing about otherwise.
From the bottom of my cynically jaded, middle aged man's heart, thank you! I sincerely wish you absolutely nothing but success and happiness in every aspect of your life.
KyotoRobato also covers true crime and other weird incidents in Japan.
@@angelwings1979 yes they do, be t that's not really my jam
The rest of the world films you and laugh at you then post it online so more people can laugh at you. Humans are really à weird bunch.
Yeah, this would actually probably end so much worse in the west, we'd probably terrorize the woman, at least nowadays. Not only would she be shown and appear on TV (even though that should be illegal, but whatever), but we'd make her a freak show. We treat privacy and right to image very badly in the West.
@@gon9684You’re almost exclusively talking about TMZ or paparazzi type groups, but they only care about disrupting the privacy of celebrities; some random old lady wouldn’t be in their radar. That’s assuming TMZ or other tabloids can make a show that requires any amount of professionalism in the first place, which we know they’re incapable of.
Yeah i 90% believe the woman with mental health problems is the reason why they took the plug of the episode. Seeing the light humor of the show and how every single case was so chilled resolved they could have just pressed on with the case not thinking much and seeing the real reason of it decided to cut it out. Shows like this spend a lot of money with travels and expenses so they cant just not air an episode, you need to record something or else there is no episode of the week, after that day i imagine the procedures to take on a case was very well revised.
I at first thought that it might have been juvenile gang/gang related activity, like marking their territory to let other gangs know who’s boss there. An older disabled woman with a potentially deteriorating mental state may actually be a more plausible answer. I hope she’s well if she’s still living and if not, that she lived out the rest of her days pleasantly.
Before it got to the troubled woman, I was honestly thinking that the ribbons might have been tied by the very person who wrote into the show, just to say, "ooo, I found these mysterious things tied all over my town." I wonder how often people would fabricate a mystery for 1 week of fame, and how the show runners would avoid being duped?
its possible she suffered from a seriously bad unchecked case of obsessive personality disorder , its not unheard of, ad that to possible schizophrenia, its possible she believes something bad will happen if she stops like the end of the world or her own death... there was case of a serial killer that believed he had kill people to stave of the apocalypse (im not saying she is a killer)
Herbert Mullin? I was always surprised Mullin was simply placed in prison for life, rather than a high-security mental institution. His schizophrenia was severe enough for the jury to find him culpable in only two of the eleven murders he's charged with (the other nine being second-degree murder); I almost feel bad for him, in that regard.
Those sorts of fears aren't uncommon in severe OCD even without schizophrenia as well. That fear drives the compulsions.
if I had a store that sold ice-cream I would call it Nightscoop
This very much gives off an OCD vibe. A thought getting stuck in someone’s head causing her to compulsively have to do this random act. I’d guess the show figured this out and with the stigma/privacy issues banned the episodes conclusion. They had to air something so they gave it a bit of a creepy abrupt ending playing into the mystery aspect.
Japan having extremely strict privacy laws to this day, especially about filming or photographing people with out consent, would make a satisfying conclusion nearly impossible. I’m kinda thankful for that given how in the US they would have just shoved a camera in this person’s face which feels extremely gross.
That's another reason for that. In America, we believe in freedom of speech. In Japan it is mostly due to the history with many warlords and criminals
I have a relative that lives in the mentioned area in Osaka, who told me about this story a few years ago. From what I heard from him, apparantely the woman's daughter went missing, and from then, she developed a habit of tying the ties near her house so that the daughter could find her way back home. Not sure if it's true, but either way a pretty sad story...
Yeah, one of the first explanations I could come up with was that it was some sort of gesture similar to an awareness ribbon or roadside cross.
Gods, that's heartbreaking of true. I can see how that could develop into a severe compulsion.
That's even worse!
Knowing Japanese entertainment industry always tries to distance itself from controversies I'm not surprised if the mentally disabled woman was behind the ribbons. They wanted to respect her privacy so they stopped the investigation and made sure people didn't inquire about the case. I hope she got all help she needed
This was back in the 90s she might not be with us……….
I think it is possible the woman had OCD, it is what I thought before you even started discussing mental health. It fits with the description from crew member that she was paranoid. OCD compulsions are linked to anxiety, feeling that one has to do X to prevent Y. Hallucinations are also more common in people with OCD. I really do hope the show helped her get the support she needed.
Given Japan supports suicide I'm guessing she didn't make it………
The chunky dog actually left the ties that’s where he was going all that time 😂
chunky dog pulled a hansel and grettal
@@misseselise3864just not with crumbs cuz he ate them 😂
I wonder if anyone in Japan makes this sort of content for the Japanese. Investigating weird western mysteries or hauntings and translate for their audience? Like is there a group of Japanese that have translated the whole "area 51 caller" on Art Bell's radio show and they have their own conclusions and theories about strange things in the west? It would be interesting to see if there are any western mysteries in particular the Japanese find interesting.
Milktea nomitai is one such channel
Mental health people always get stigmatised and bullied. For me personally, ive isolated my life from the world since i had ocd and suicidal. This story makes me sad because its like we are trapped in a never ending cycle of despair
Oh, and here I thought you just wanted to shine a spotlight on yourself...
@@malcolmdrake6137 Really man? What the heck?
I hope that something good comes your way and that you find a circle of people you can comfortably rely on, in my own experience mental health can be a heavy toll so I hope yours can be lifted :)
@@brickproduction1815He's projecting. There's nothing wrong with sharing your thoughts and experiences. That's what comments often are.
I'm a mostly isolated mentally ill person too but I am lucky to have my online friends and my bf who is local (albeit very busy 😭 sorry, I just miss him). I hope you're able to find your people soon - there are definitely people out there that get it or at the very least aren't put off by the fact that they don't get it. Over time, the right people show you what's great about you.
I'm still cycling in and out of despair but I stopped wanting to end it all and that gives me more will to push back. I hope you find a way there soon.
@@brickproduction1815I'm guessing they assume you were a grifter 😅
ooooof, what a story! thank you for bringing this to us. I think the locals were trying to protect the woman as best they could, even if it came off as cold and unhelpful to the tv show.
Been watching Sakura for a while now I think she became one of my fav documentary channels
Sachan is my spirit animal.
Checking my sub feed I saw that Sakura and KyotoRobato both dropped new videos on new Japanese mysteries at the same time. Man, it's a good Saturday!
Okay.... i wanna know what happened with the Chonky Doggo. We need to know why he was so Chonky!!!
He was probably getting second dinner at a neighbour's house haha.
Your channel is great, I love these mysterious stories that you do.
Just came across your channel and wanted to say I loved this video! I love hearing about obscure local “mysteries” that aren’t murder oriented. I like those too but these are more interesting and tend to scratch my curiosity itch better! Thanks again! 🖖
My aunt is disabled shes in a home now, but yeah i could understand why they would pull it. I also understand the curiosity almost like "geocaching" to want to know. Great video and everyone loves chonk dog.❤
I gotta say I salute the reserve the production had, following the case. To a show featuring comedians investigating onlight hearted mysteries, spoiling the fun tone and making entertainment out of a person's disability wouldn't be a good direction to take.
fun fact the colnel sanders statue thing was referenced in sonic adventure! the little statue you can throw outside the burger shop was inspired by it and an NPC tells you not to throw it into a river.
Dealing with mental health problems in Japan is TERRIBLY difficult ☹️
honestly really nice of them to cut the episode and not show her
4:10 "Following the Colonel's departure", well that's one way to put it 😂
Somehow a quarter of the way through I figured it was someone with mental health issues. Reminded me of an adopted family member who loved playing with strings and braiding them. I'd always bring her strings to play with as a gift when I visited. I also used to work retail and noticed some folks coming in with their coaches to help them develop habits and patterns so they can have things to do each day. Its sad and I hope this person found some help or they at least let them put her ties back.
Me before the video: Oh this is gonna be spooky~!
Me after the video: Sakura why must you hurt me :(
I’m sorry 😭 I felt it was an important topic to discuss
@@SakuraStardust Ya did good! But the feels!
Fun, interesting episode! Japan is (and was) known for TV shows that were unique. Knight Scoop less so - I find the spelling interesting. It's strange that a show known for solving mysteries would suddenly stop like that!
When you were talking about the ties making a trail and then the alley with ties everywhere. I was thinking about people who put ribbon on trees near accident where loved one was lost. So i thought it would be obsessive mourner marking place of lost family member. Not sure if truth is less sad by end of video.
Thanks for the great video. The "investigator / detective" on the case appears to be Tommys Masa (トミーズ雅) and not Makoto Kitano (though Kitano may have been the one that spoke about the incident on podcast as he was also on the show at the time as another "investigator").
Thank you so much for covering this, I actually never heard of this show and I'm kinda invested now 🤭 While the conclusion of this episode was kind of depressing (I hope the women got some help in the end...), the other stories are rather delightful. Hope you consider doing more videos on TV programmes like this, I really like your presentation style and it's easy to tell that you put great effort into your research! Keep up the great work!
A small thing I noticed when watching Sacchan's story (thanks for providing the link in the comments) that I just wanted to give a little heads up on: There is small translation mistake that I assume you just copied from the subtitles in the clip you used, as they also got it wrong. The dog was not eating the same food as her and she was curious about why he gained weight and she didn't, but she actually wrote that the dog had gained so much weight that he probably weighed about as much as her. (It says 今では私の体重と変わらないかもしれません in the letter, which would be "Right now, his weight probably doesn't differ from mine"). It's a bit of an unusual grammatical structure for native speakers of I think most European languages (my native language is German and while you could built a similar sentence, it would be extremely awkward and unnatural) but I feel like it's surprisingly common in formal (especially) written Japanese. Hope that helps a bit in your studies 🙏🍀
That makes so much more sense. I was thinking "unless she's eating dog food, it could just be the fact that the dog is eating human food." A dog I used to know developed diabetes and gained a bunch of weight because she ended up with people that gave her bits of food from every meal.
2:13 I love to hear Sakura speaking in internet lingo.
As an Englishman the ribbon incident gives me flashbacks to the infamous spoof ghosthunting show called Ghostwatch
I really love these documentary videos, especially the pop culture dives!
Thank you! These kinds are my favorite to research! 😊
That episode’s plot could easily be a creepy pasta. Imagine a detective show ending with the detective looking flabbergasted and a warning to never ask about it again?
Hi Sakura! Thank you for your contents ❤❤❤
That chonky dog probably just eats at other people's home too like a street cat
The Colonel Sander statue was actually tossed 2 or 3 weeks before the Hanshin Tiger won, not during the time or after the team won
This was a great way to fill a lazy and rainy Sunday afternoon.
I'm early. This is a great video! Thank you for uploading Sakura!
The fact that you mentioned the fat dog mystery and casually jumped to the next topic without giving us the resolution bothered me so much that I had to stop the video to leave this comment
Found the episode on youtube. Turns out he was going a train station where, upon seeing his cuteness, people would give him treats which fattened him up
It sounds like OCD to me and I know for a fact there's no functional treatment for that in Japan. Hell i can't even take my spouse and my kid to Japan because the only ADHD medication that's legal is Vyvanse and neither of them is on that nor can they function without their meds.
Nagata Kabi's books about her alcoholism and dealing with the stress of being queer in Japan said a lot. It was really dark. (My Lesbian Experience with Loneliness etc) I am entirely unsurprised by this whole thing.
I hope the woman who was doing that is OK and feels better these days. I hope she got what she needed. OCD is life destroying.
TIL my ADHD meds are legal in Japan. I'll never be able to afford to travel but that's interesting.
when i first saw that rope tie i first thought of some weird spiritual barrier being made inside the city (was it what the poor old woman was thinking?) really feel bad for her
As always, thank you for your hard work on bringing us banger content. Appreciate you Alex 🖤
What a deep dig in this quirky investigation series. I think there were also paranormal reporter shows back then so it must have been a popular format.
By the way have you ever considered a video on game center CX? I'd love to see your take on that show's history.
Who knew Japan had its own Chicago Cubs goat style superstition!
Another amazing video, Sakura. Congrats!
Love how your work is evolving.
Assuming the story about the woman is true, it was for the best that the segment was not followed up on, though I question the sensationalizing of the abrupt end to begin with
Thank you for the hard work you put into putting out these videos on topics that many I'm sure wouldn't ever know about otherwise!
At the time this aired, Japanese media was still going through a supernatural boom. My guess is that they did indeed want to avoid complications from the event, but also didn’t want a “ruined” segment, so they opted to create a mystery that pulled viewership rather than a sad story that potentially pushed viewers away.
Please do a Sacchan the fat dog episode, it may be the greatest mystery I have ever seen investigated, and the legend of Sacchan deserves to continued into the present day.
Another great video. I'm going to have to watch that series.
I vastly misunderstood what Knight Scoop was about when you first described it. I thought it was some kinda true crime investigation show, we have one in the states that i forget the name of. Instead it just seems to be like Mythbusters but without the science and explosions?
I'm a huge fan of Knight Scoop and I have the Knight Scoop DVD with this episode (Vol. 13). Just some comments about it. The tantei was not Kitano Makoto, but Miyabi from Tommy's. The blue tapes that vanished from the box in front of the store were removed by the Police after Miyabi called them - a high patent officer with a cap appears right after it. The box itself had the Police badge, it seems like an emergency communication station. The Police officer mounted in the bicycle said that tieing the box was not a crime, more as a transgression.
One more thing, Miyabi guesses in the end of the episode that it seems like there is a perimeter of 3km, where the ties start at a gas station and end at a public playground, so maybe there is a background of a person losing its child for some accident or something worse, and this stills haunt this person...
1:05 All Nipple News
Your presence is always such a delight, Sakura
your channel is one of the best English language based on Japanese content that isnt about travel/lifestyle, anime, interview or vlogging.... your content reminds me of blameitonjorge for some reason
It's kinda sad how even a show that was meant for silliness and escapism eventually seep'd in some sadness of the real world. Like an old lady trying to mark her way back home
Very interesting. A little sad. However, your background music keeps making me think my phone is ringing.. hehe
I wanna see the data showing how many viewers clicked off of this video at 10:07 to quickly go watch the legend of Sacchan the fat dog..
Great video, amazing production and research. Thank you so much.
Having lived in Japan for nine years, you aren't wrong about the issues with mental health. There were only hints of normalization even when I left which was... a month ago.
I don't think it was a hoax either, since if it were done for ratings, it would likely not be so strongly suppressed.
Unfortunately it's probably the fact that it was a sad reason, so they couldn't really mess with it too much on a variety show.
i would sell my soul if it would mean more sakura stardust videos
I actually first heard about the Curse of the Colonel from Arakawa Hiromu's manga, Silver Spoon/Gin no Saji, which referenced it. It led me down quite an amusing rabbit hole.
As for the main subject of the vid, all things considered, them deciding to just cut things off, even abruptly, to have a mentally unwell person retain some privacy instead of being the subject of a comedy show seems ultimately a good thing.
The legend of Sacchan episode of Knight Scoop is still one of the greatest pieces of media I have ever seen. If you've never seen it, do yourself a favor and change that immediately!
My first thought was that it was the guy who sent in the case that tied those ropes, lol
Video was recommended. Just liked and subscribed. Very well put together and very detailed. Interesting story.
Thank you so much and welcome aboard, friend!
Night Scoop is the show with the guy in pudding, right?
I think some of the ties were placed as memorials, like they were to mark the death spots of spirits that she saw. That might be why so many were in the alley.
2:48 great ,now i can't sleep thinking what the production date of that yogurt bottle
I love Sacchan so much 🥹
I hate to break it to you, but things have not gotten better in Japan. I have a friend that has lived there since the early 2000, more specifically in Urawa and he told me, very very recently (a month or so ago) that in his area the people made a complaint to the city because a school for kids with disabilities was rumoured to be built and they did not want it because they though it would soil the good looks and cleanness of the area. Is awful, but it is happening still. Very disgusting.
As soon as the topic of the ties came up, I started thinking about a side quest in Downpour, although that one has a much worse implication :/
How funny that the first person shown at 1:26 is Matsumoto. I bet that episode was funny as hell.
Thanks for the info, please do more Japanese cases
I know that attempts were made to recover the Colonel as part of a variety tv show, but it's the first I've heard of this mystery show.
You always make good content. I always look forward to your uploads.
Great report! A subtle correction. The name of comedian reporter is Tommy's Masa not Kitano Makoto.
Do you have links to the stories?
the chonky doggo was probably getting fed by at least one other person
New subscriber here. Enjoying your channel and contents. Keep up the good work. Regards from a fan in Malaysia 👏🏽😊
Thank you so much! Been to Kuala Lumpur myself!
The clip about the ties: I remember seeing a different Japanese show air an episode about these ties. That show, during the late 2000s, I forget the name, was a show mostly about paranormal topics as well as mysteries. It also has a comedy aspect to it. It had a panel of men and women as well as a special guest. There was an episode where they spoke about an Olympic team that represented a small country. They had caught the attention of a reporter because they had lost all games but one. Winning that one game, the players had celebrated as though they had won the Olympic gold. Well to make this short, the mystery here was that as the reporter explained why it was a mystery, it was eventually found that those players weren't official players of the sport, they had apparently forged passports to make their way out of their country. The mystery being, who were they, how did they manage to replace the original players, and what happened to the original players?. Well that same episode aired a clip about these ties. In the end, the show had expressed that this whole mystery was probably put up by request of the producers from Night Scoop. They cited some other show that did something similar for ratings or to fill in the slot.
I don’t get it. Why didn’t they just abandon the story when they felt they couldn’t complete it satisfactorily? Just not airing it would have done far more to protect privacy and let the issue quietly fade away.
Japan's collectivist mentality means that standing out is not considered societally harmonious. Unfortunately, having a mental or physical disability means you are not in harmony with the others and therefore you essentially are unpersoned (as in, you are treated like you don't exist.) Would love to know how this works with their rockstars and mascots though, they seem to stick out quite a bit...
6:07 **talks about osaka**
**shows map with a tick in kyoto** :D
It's technically considered the same metropolitan area and stock footage is limited in what it has lol
Japanese Unsolved Mysteries with a Japanese Robert Stack is all I want from AI
I was glad to hear your concern for those suffering from mental difficulties. In the USA, and apparently also in Japan, support for mentally afflicted persons is terribly lacking. Widespread homelessness compounds the problem. Thank you for being compassionate and voicing your concerns.
Japan's mental health care is even more dire in my understanding. There aren't a lot of mental health professionals at all because of how the severity of stigma keeps them tucked away.
I know we (in the US) don't have enough professionals either, but it's at least not an uncommon field for people to go into. Hopefully that increases as we continue being more open about these things and hopefully the same is true there.
5:40 he vibin'! 🦀🦀🦀🦀
My guess is she might have OCD, that's all I can think of.
I was thinking it involved a serial killer and the show segment was interfering with an ongoing investigation.
As a baseball and Hanshin Tigers fan, I know the story of the Colonel all too well. At least we broke the "curse" following the 2023 Nippon Series victory against the crosstown Orix Buffaloes, lmao.
I thought would end with the ties lured people to a serial killer or gang related codes. The final out come is still sad and tragic.
The thing that gets me though, is the show is on at night, with pre filmed and edited footage right? So if they did find the lady in question, why even run the story at all? They would have other ones that could be moved up a day/week for sure.
The picture of the blue ties seem awfully high off the ground, depending on Kitano's height, for a small woman to tie if he is standing upright.