How about if I remove fisically the Grill feom my ford Focus! Do you need to delete also from the sotwere,or is not nasasery? Thanx g@@BoostedMotorsports
My wifes Fusion just started to over heat everyday to work. I just saw her AGS was closed and not allowing airflow. These things are stupid unless you live in a seasonal place. Here in CA these are just one more thing to fail. I had to force hers open to stop it from over heating. Hers even blocks the intercooler to her turbos too. And I was wondering why her car sometimes was gutless and sometimes felt notmal.
I need to take mine out. I can now do it myself because of this video. A mechanic at the Dodge dealer in Show Low says $1900.00 to do it. Hell no. I have the tools. I will put a new one in.
I notice I get 25mpg in my 4runner when the outside temp is over 70, when the temp is below 20, I'm only getting 19 or less. I don't have grill shutters but would like them
Holy I haul every day. I get temperatures 219-231 coolant, engine oil pairs up with the coolant, transmission goes to 194F. Recently I changed radiator had a crack, changed the thermostat. Next water pump. In the meantime I did bleed the system and burp it. I am still getting hot temperatures. I will remove the grill. I honestly think is a stupid feature. Even though is clever but not close. Is just create too much heat. As soon you said when driving on the freeway they closed. That is when the truck goes up hill hits 230's. I run 2018 ram 1500 Tradesman 3.6L.
So in the winter time, my truck drives great and when I’m on the mountain in the summer, it’s fine. When I drive up the mountain it overheats when it’s over 100°. I’m wondering if this could be the culprit.
I recently purchased a 2017 Ram 1500 4 doors. Been "YouTubing" on how to make it more efficient... Your videos are perfect! I subscribed, great job #BoostedMotorsports 😎👍
BoostedMotorsports thanks! I'm literally viewing all of your Ram videos... I'm hooked 😎👍 lol. I hope your material is not copyrighted because I'm about to copy everything you've done on your Ram (not really) 😁. Awesome job in explaining things. 💯✔
Dumb question. I know in a different video you showcase a kit and relocate the shutter motor but what what just trimming away the the fins on the shutters? it'll still "operate" but have the vent open as much as you trim them.
My 1500 doesn't have vents but was considering adding them since 99% of what I drive is on the interstate. Wouldn't it make more sense to just wire in an adjustable fan controller to control the vents? Set the vents to open a few deg. before the fans turn on.
Ok so I'm just a lady driving this 2019 ram 1500 truck back and forth to work. I'm not building it or modifying it in any way. So over the weekend the check engine light comes on and auto zone checks the code (U11E9) says its "most likely" the grill shutter assembly bc I'm approaching 50k miles. And the part is not available. I'm in a rural County so I don't have to worry about check engine lights for emissions testing, but I need to know if my truck is gonna over heat or what I should do.
Hello and thank you for the video. If the active grill shutter stops working can we simply replace the actuator to the grill for a new one to make it work again? I don't understand why anyone would want to replace the whole unit when the actuator is solely responsible for opening and closing the grill. I know this video is old but I'm hoping you will answer my question.
I recently installed a 185 degree thermostat on my 2015 ram still have my mechanical fan but noticed my temp is still climbing especially when towing my trailer. I get that it’s going to climb in temp being under a load while towing but would deleting my shutters help cool the motor better while towing?
I thought I was the only one having that issue. Coolant & oil tem runs at 219-230. I freaked out when reached 240. I said ooooh hell naaaaa. I change the radiator it had a crack, I changed the thermostat. Next will be water pump. I didn't know my truck had shutters since is basic working truck 2018 Tradesman V6. After I notice why I don't see my radiator then vents opened. First thing I said "ooooooh hell naaaaa who in the FK set that feature, it got to be one idiot, I haul every day". Research to delete this. I will order this part. Have you done it? Any cooler?
I don't think the shutters ars all that great. Maybe a whole 0.4 extra MPG on the highway, and as a mechanic, the never ending concern that the shutter motor will fail in the closed position, and my truck will over heat is enough to make me want too ditch the grille shutters. Lol Good job explaining it. People who aren't mechanically inclined would understand! Can't wait to see the supercharger. Just a side note, these 5.7 HEMIs benefit greatly from a big, fat lopey cam. I imagine even more so with a blower.
Thanks for your support Morte! If you check out my MPG video I just posted my MPG is showing insanely high at 65mph right now with all the mods. Going to be doing a more thorough test soon for the channel also and hand calculate the MPG as well. I'll eventually open up the engine and probably do pistons, rods, etc at the same time. For now just sticking with the bolt ons 😁
Thanks for this video. I have a 2019 BMW X3 and the engine light is on and the apparatus I bought to diagnose the problem says Active Grill Air Shutter "B" is stuck on. Does that mean its stuck open or closed ? Can I drive it this way ? Thank you in advance for your response.
You gonna have to put the active shutter grille back, if you try erasing the engine light without the active shutter grille it’s going to come back on, good luck
Just a quick add to this, from what Ram said back in 2012 when they were discussing these for the 2013 model year, they also work with the air suspension models as well. The full effect is the air suspension lowers the truck to the Aero height at over 64 mph and closes off the shutters to improve aerodynamics. Would deleting the AGS have an impact on that system?
If you do the delete mod that I show in the last video your air suspension will still lower as it should and not have any issues because it thinks the AGS system is still fully functioning using the custom kit
So I have the same shutter system on my 2018 GMC Sierra.. the shutter decided not to work forcing me to replace it.. if I don't replace it the engine light will remain on.. How do I keep the shutter system in the vehicle (open) and delete the detection from the vehicle without the engine light remaining on?? Truck won't pass upcoming inspection with engine light on.. Thanks
i recently installed a 180 thermostate from HHPerformance and it jumps around from 185 to 190 during driving, could you tell what thermostat your using and should i remove the active shutters from my 2017 ram bighorn crew cab....HELP Please
Not to state the obvious.... But you could just remove the shutter fins themselves to avoid using a deletion kit? Only bad thing at that point would be the dead weight of the housing still on your truck right?
The ags will help more then it hurts unless your vehicle is modified to run a cooler and take advantage of that. (just changing the thermostat is only half the equation since the computer still looks for 200 degrees before going into the proper closed loop tune.) the engine runs rich until the proper temp is reached. and if you remove the ags and still have the stock thermostat that doesnt open till 200 degrees its pointless since the ags would be open when the radiator cooling fan is on and the computer commands cooling is needed regardless. removing it is a placebo mod that does more harm than good in the majority of situations.
We've been following your channel for quite some time now and love your videos! I have a RAM, same generation as yours, with the 5.7 V8 BiFuel purchased in Belgium, Europe (if that makes a difference). Sport crew cab, short box. When driving around town, I've never seen it exceed 95 C (usually even starts to cool when it reaches 94) and could go down all the way to 90, sometimes even 89, before it starts to heat up again according to the evic. However, today I had to do a lot of highway / freeway driving at about 135~140 km/h (85 mph). I've seen the temp creep up to 97, which kind of scared me a little since it already runs quite a bit hotter than the European cars I'm used to… do you think it's because of the grille shutters? Or is it trying to run a little more efficiently on the highway? It's what would equal to a full option in the US I believe, except I did not get the air suspension, so it doesn't have aero mode for example. I'm sorry if my English isn't very good, thank you so much in advance :)
They are a damn headache I don't know why they put them on there any way had them replaced twice and engine light came right back on my 2019 ram Laramie?
Im late but had a question. Hopefully u can help me. I got a 2015 Hyundai Genesis. I have an Active Air flap on mine. Is that basically the same thing u have and can i completely remove it without replacing something different there like u did?
Does this same info apply to a active grill shutter on a 2015 Chrysler 200? Are you still able to pass an emissions test if you take out the grill shutter? Mines causes my engine light to turn on.
Hi, someone hit me at front and broke that active grill shutter and check engine light came on, those vents are open all the time can I still drive it like that? At least until the other party insurance start taking care of it? I’m asking Kuz I have a 2021 Ram 3500 and I do hotshot work and carry heavy loads, so if you know the answer to my question I’ll appreciate it. 🙏
my friend,can you tell me,if you removed all shuter,radiator fan not stay on all time after 70 degree? i removed just plastics from shuter and i have left just plastic just for servo,otherways radiator fan work all time because not find stop position
My question is that… I have a jeep Cherokee Limited and have removed And replaced the active grill shutter because I thought I needed to. It has not allowed me to use my remote start because of the engine light alert. Is there a way to see activate the engine light so that I am able to use my remote start again?
I know the video is old but did you also have to replace your thermostat now that you will have more air to help cool the engine youll have to change that out too correct?
Thanks for the video as always. I do have a quick question off the subject of the active grill and that is I recently done a cat back exhaust and was thinking about doing a Y pipe and off-road Y-pipe now I know everywhere in the US that’s illegal because you have to have cats converter‘s but if you were going to add one I would you keep the check engine light coming on is the only way to get a tuner? Thanks again for the info
Thanks Mark! Yeah there are some other ways people have stopped a light you can check out by googling 'O2 defouler' or 'O2 simulator' but of course for Offroad only 😎👍
I have this on my ford explorer. I want to.add a police push bar. Would it hurt if I cut the ends of the lower shutter for the brackets. I dont want to remove all the shutter system.
Are the flaps on the front in the middle and bottom that are held on with clips necessary? I just installed a replacement grill on my 2016 and those flaps are in the way of the grill seating correctly without forcing them down. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I have a question. this is not my question its just a thought , An AGS system on a RAM truck in SO CAL? Like I'll ever sees snow or cold weather in San Diego. I can see where the AGS would be beneficial to keep the engine warm while driving in cold temperatures but My Ram, 2016 5.7 L Hemi lately has been fluctuating the temperature ranges (100 -145 at start up) then from 203 up to 224! Any Thoughts? @ 224 the fan kicks on and cools back down to 203. It will do this even while driving 65- 75 mph on the highways in town. If I run the AC it will run the fan to keep the engine cool. But I don't want the AC on to cool the engine. (I will check the AGS to see if it is working) I wonder if it is remaining shut and not giving a check engine light. I did the mechanical fan delete and installed an electric fan. Also, I have been through 2 water pumps and 2 new thermostats and 1 new temp sensor in the last 2 yrs it is now on its 3rd water pump and 3rd thermostat all due to leaking pump seals (weep hole) This could be due to the high temps I don't know . I m thinking about installing a manual override switch using a relay to turn the fan on and off. I would appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. - Joseph
I have a 2016 dodge dart and the active grille shutter is not good so it keeps bringing the check engine light on my dashboard. Do I need to replace it or should I disregard it? Pls I need answers.
Great videos brother I got a 2012 it's almost a 2013 I have a kind of a rough idle and I'm run wondering if it is camshaft. truck runs great though do you have any ideas what the rough idle could be. 66k
You may need a active shutter grille mine came on as well it could be the wires to it as well, I went to oreilys and auto zone to check engine light and they told me that was the problem, good luck
Even If I removed the mechanical fan will the electric fan be enough to make air at idle or help control the temp, mine is a 2017 and has both. I dont like that louver system it's trash Please let me know
Review removed how do you turn your check engine off because I take it off I remove it but I drove 30 miles and the check engine on April the scanner says I’m missing the radiator shuttles
you can remove the shutters but leave the motor connected. the shutters open whenever the radiator fans actually kick on while the thermostat is open so it wont have the effect you think by removing them.
AGS system is completely unnecessary, unless there is no thermostat equipped. If thermostat is closed there is no coolant flow thru the radiator that the passing air can cool, thus the engine will reach operating temperature just as quickly with or without AGS. If they are closed during highway driving for "aerodynamics" your engine is probably getting too hot while driving. Thermostat is what truly regulates engine temp...along with other factors ie. Cooling fan speed, timing, etc.
Yet multiple car engineering team have decided to spend extra r&D and extra money in installing them regardless of your logic. Normally I would agree with you but it must still make a difference besides the differences it makes in the transmission and turbo cooling even if it is just less cold air rushing through the engine compartment.
@@fathergratwick Respectfully to you, there's no real R&D involved. Other than coming up with an unnecessary component that is design to fail for dealer profit. Yes! Planned obsolescence is a real thing. As for spending the extra money? The stock AGS is made entirely of cheap, brittle plastic with a faulty motor. Probably cost the manufacturer pennys to produce & install, charged the consumer hundreds in sticker price. Then will charge hundreds more to service the system when it fails. And it WILL fail.
@@stevenromero1801 Ive respectfully disagree. Ive owned a few and still own a classic and if your statement had merit newer vehicles wouldnt be running circles around those old simple designs as far as vehicle lifespan. we are not all engineers so we like to believe its all about conspiracy theories I guess. we all like to think we can stick it to the man by undoing some feature our car came with the save us money? planned obsolescence it a thing I agree (without it we would mostly be driving very old vehicles right now) .. but removing the shutters is not a going to do a damn thing to deter or effect that IMO. Ironically the person who made this video didnt even research how the shutters truly work
@@fathergratwick Fair enough. I respect your opinion. Never said newer vehicles weren't more powerful than oldies. The more efficient the engine, the more power it produces with less fuel & emissions. That's true. However, if it makes you feel better to spend a ton of money constantly fixing your new car, go right on ahead. Personally, I'd rather stay on the streets with my simple, DEPENDABLE designs. As an ASE tech, who has to do the actual repairs on these new POS, it's just more money in my pocket anyways 😉.
@@stevenromero1801you are absolutely right. These car manufacturers are in business to make money. The only "green" they are concerned with is the green in their pocket. This is no different than the infamous EGR system... It's more shit they add for you to spend money on later. Cars run more efficient now because they are tuned better with EFI (electronic fuel injection) and EIS (electronic ignition system) - no more distributors/carburetors - some of the last useful designs on modern vehicles. These shutters are shit, and the "team of engineers" who designed this are idiots (or not, since I'm sure they'll get nicely compensation for the bigger company profits). Anyone mechanically inclined knows cooler engines run better. Hotter engines = durability and performance..….said no one ever!
I would never have deleted that. I'm thinking about ADDING those to my classic truck to keep the engine warm in the winter. I would have just disconnected them and forced them to stay in the open position if I were you.
Hey Tim I actually found a OEM Denso fan out of a wrecked truck that has been working great! I know a lot of guys running the TYC fans but some complain of vibration from the cheaper fan 🤔
Hello.... What did you do with your AGS assembly? did you dispose of it? if not, would you be interested in selling it to me? mine is busted...and I need another one, I have a 2016 RAM 1500 LoneStar Edition (SLT). Thank in advance...
Thanks for the video. I have a quick question. I have removed active grill for my ford focus 2018, the car is is performing pretty cool without it. However, the fan runs after few minutes I start the engine and does not stop until I switch off the car off. Please advise what might be the issue or what should I do with the fan?
have you checked the cooling fan relay ? And also check the temp sending unit . It could be stuck in the "on"' position until the coolant reaches a certain temp.
Nice video as usual, quick question, how do I know that the AGS are actually working? Is there a way to test these? I have noticed that when I turn off my truck that there is a noise that sounds like a small motor running, this will also occur at times just before I start the truck remotely.
Hey Don! If you have remote start take a peek through the front grille and hit the remote start or get someone to start your truck and within the first minute you'll see the grilles run through the test procedure to check for full operation as they fully close and open.
Just as you mentioned, I used the remote start and did see the shutters close. Thanks for the obvious tip. Hey they say the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked!
Hey Tony these 8 speeds are designed to run that hot and actually have a small thermostat to keep them at that temp and wont pass fluid to the trans cooler until it is up to that temp
Can u help me out ive got a 6" lift on my truck with 22X12 wheels running 35" tires my temperature is between 219/222! Thats on the highway in town im at about 214. Is that normal cause of the lift ive got and bigger wheels? Was wondering if i should take off the shutters. I got a 2017 ram 1500 with the 3.6 pentastar.. Any info would be great thanks
Hey Raul do you have the 8 speed? The thermostat on these trucks are usually pretty high stock but I haven't had to deal with the V6 on these trucks to be honest. As a simple test I would try unplugging your shutters with them open or temporarily removing them to see if it will help before you commit to deleting them! Keep us updated!
Glad you added all the parts of the equation together, thermostat, fan, shutters... go!
Thanks Luke! Definitely all 3 compliment eachother well! 🙂
Good explanation. I like the way you cover topics like this, good ol' fashioned car guy language and easy to follow!
Thanks Mike! I do my best 😁
@@BoostedMotorsports You mean you *basically* do your best, right? :)
How about if I remove fisically the Grill feom my ford Focus! Do you need to delete also from the sotwere,or is not nasasery? Thanx g@@BoostedMotorsports
It **basically** cleared that up! LOL
My wifes Fusion just started to over heat everyday to work. I just saw her AGS was closed and not allowing airflow. These things are stupid unless you live in a seasonal place. Here in CA these are just one more thing to fail. I had to force hers open to stop it from over heating. Hers even blocks the intercooler to her turbos too. And I was wondering why her car sometimes was gutless and sometimes felt notmal.
This video explains everything I will be ripping that out tomorrow, thanks for the great video
Great info! Now I know why the shutters are for.
I have a 2013 with the 4.7L/6SP Auto.. and i have the active grill shutters equipped on my truck.
You gotta get rid of the word BASICALLY. Holy crap, but basically a good video. 😜
You basically won't hear that in the newer videos LOL I noticed that too and haven't used it in all current vids 🤣
I need to take mine out. I can now do it myself because of this video. A mechanic at the Dodge dealer in Show Low says $1900.00 to do it. Hell no. I have the tools. I will put a new one in.
Just leave it out so it gets more air..
Just bought a 2020 Ram 2500 and now I know what those vents do and how they work!
Thanks! 👍
If it aint broke..... You know the rest. If you have a V6, you NEED to have these functional. Good vid dude
No bro, you don't "need" these at all!
That can should be pwm. It varies the speed of the fan not cycle on and off. It also runs constantly at a lower speed when ever the ac is running.
I notice I get 25mpg in my 4runner when the outside temp is over 70, when the temp is below 20, I'm only getting 19 or less. I don't have grill shutters but would like them
Informative and straight to the point!
These are also on the newer GM trucks as well.
And F-150's since 2015
Holy I haul every day. I get temperatures 219-231 coolant, engine oil pairs up with the coolant, transmission goes to 194F.
Recently I changed radiator had a crack, changed the thermostat. Next water pump. In the meantime I did bleed the system and burp it. I am still getting hot temperatures. I will remove the grill. I honestly think is a stupid feature. Even though is clever but not close. Is just create too much heat.
As soon you said when driving on the freeway they closed. That is when the truck goes up hill hits 230's. I run 2018 ram 1500 Tradesman 3.6L.
So in the winter time, my truck drives great and when I’m on the mountain in the summer, it’s fine. When I drive up the mountain it overheats when it’s over 100°. I’m wondering if this could be the culprit.
In that year you own there was no srt in previous years of 2006 they made srt but no 2010 and up srt. They did make rt in 2wd. Only
I recently purchased a 2017 Ram 1500 4 doors. Been "YouTubing" on how to make it more efficient... Your videos are perfect! I subscribed, great job #BoostedMotorsports 😎👍
Congrats on the new truck Nio! Plenty of content on the way! 👍
BoostedMotorsports thanks! I'm literally viewing all of your Ram videos... I'm hooked 😎👍 lol. I hope your material is not copyrighted because I'm about to copy everything you've done on your Ram (not really) 😁. Awesome job in explaining things. 💯✔
Perfect great video you explained what I needed to know thank you!!
Hi. How did you delete cause I’m experiencing the same problem I would like to remove my and delete thank for your video.
Dumb question. I know in a different video you showcase a kit and relocate the shutter motor but what what just trimming away the the fins on the shutters? it'll still "operate" but have the vent open as much as you trim them.
Not DUMB ...smartest question so far!!!
I have removed the shutters in my 2018 Chevy Silverado, but by doing so, the engine light stays on! How so I get that light to stay off?
Great job, I have the 2012 Ram Express. I wish mines came with this.
Thanks! 😎
Keep up the good work. Keep the vids coming. I deleted that crap along time ago.👍
Thanks for the support Mike! Plenty of content on the way 🤙
Any change in mpg?
My 1500 doesn't have vents but was considering adding them since 99% of what I drive is on the interstate. Wouldn't it make more sense to just wire in an adjustable fan controller to control the vents? Set the vents to open a few deg. before the fans turn on.
It would make more sense to be thankful that your vehicle doesn't have this useless crap.
Ok so I'm just a lady driving this 2019 ram 1500 truck back and forth to work. I'm not building it or modifying it in any way. So over the weekend the check engine light comes on and auto zone checks the code (U11E9) says its "most likely" the grill shutter assembly bc I'm approaching 50k miles. And the part is not available. I'm in a rural County so I don't have to worry about check engine lights for emissions testing, but I need to know if my truck is gonna over heat or what I should do.
Hello and thank you for the video. If the active grill shutter stops working can we simply replace the actuator to the grill for a new one to make it work again? I don't understand why anyone would want to replace the whole unit when the actuator is solely responsible for opening and closing the grill. I know this video is old but I'm hoping you will answer my question.
I recently installed a 185 degree thermostat on my 2015 ram still have my mechanical fan but noticed my temp is still climbing especially when towing my trailer. I get that it’s going to climb in temp being under a load while towing but would deleting my shutters help cool the motor better while towing?
I thought I was the only one having that issue. Coolant & oil tem runs at 219-230. I freaked out when reached 240. I said ooooh hell naaaaa. I change the radiator it had a crack, I changed the thermostat. Next will be water pump. I didn't know my truck had shutters since is basic working truck 2018 Tradesman V6. After I notice why I don't see my radiator then vents opened. First thing I said "ooooooh hell naaaaa who in the FK set that feature, it got to be one idiot, I haul every day". Research to delete this.
I will order this part. Have you done it? Any cooler?
I like the SRT grill badge
I don't think the shutters ars all that great. Maybe a whole 0.4 extra MPG on the highway, and as a mechanic, the never ending concern that the shutter motor will fail in the closed position, and my truck will over heat is enough to make me want too ditch the grille shutters. Lol
Good job explaining it. People who aren't mechanically inclined would understand! Can't wait to see the supercharger. Just a side note, these 5.7 HEMIs benefit greatly from a big, fat lopey cam. I imagine even more so with a blower.
Thanks for your support Morte! If you check out my MPG video I just posted my MPG is showing insanely high at 65mph right now with all the mods. Going to be doing a more thorough test soon for the channel also and hand calculate the MPG as well. I'll eventually open up the engine and probably do pistons, rods, etc at the same time. For now just sticking with the bolt ons 😁
if it did fail a CEL would pop up on the dash.... not one person on any ram forum I belong to has reported this motor failure BTW.
What about the check engine light it pops up?
Do you get a check engine light when u delete them
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How to get up in your grille. 😄
Thanks for this video. I have a 2019 BMW X3 and the engine light is on and the apparatus I bought to diagnose the problem says Active Grill Air Shutter "B" is stuck on. Does that mean its stuck open or closed ? Can I drive it this way ?
Thank you in advance for your response.
If deleted my air shutter on dodge dart sxt. I notice the check engine light came on . How can i get rid of the light.
You gonna have to put the active shutter grille back, if you try erasing the engine light without the active shutter grille it’s going to come back on, good luck
Just a quick add to this, from what Ram said back in 2012 when they were discussing these for the 2013 model year, they also work with the air suspension models as well. The full effect is the air suspension lowers the truck to the Aero height at over 64 mph and closes off the shutters to improve aerodynamics. Would deleting the AGS have an impact on that system?
If you do the delete mod that I show in the last video your air suspension will still lower as it should and not have any issues because it thinks the AGS system is still fully functioning using the custom kit
Make the air intakes on your hood actually work I haven’t seen any videos about that
Thanks Jonas! I actually have that planned soon too! 👍
I wish my car had that on it, on a winter day on my 25min. commute home I only hit 150F.
So I have the same shutter system on my 2018 GMC Sierra.. the shutter decided not to work forcing me to replace it.. if I don't replace it the engine light will remain on.. How do I keep the shutter system in the vehicle (open) and delete the detection from the vehicle without the engine light remaining on?? Truck won't pass upcoming inspection with engine light on.. Thanks
i recently installed a 180 thermostate from HHPerformance and it jumps around from 185 to 190 during driving, could you tell what thermostat your using and should i remove the active shutters from my 2017 ram bighorn crew cab....HELP Please
Does removing that grill void your warranty?
Not to state the obvious.... But you could just remove the shutter fins themselves to avoid using a deletion kit? Only bad thing at that point would be the dead weight of the housing still on your truck right?
So its better to remove the AGS ??? Thanks for great video man
The ags will help more then it hurts unless your vehicle is modified to run a cooler and take advantage of that. (just changing the thermostat is only half the equation since the computer still looks for 200 degrees before going into the proper closed loop tune.) the engine runs rich until the proper temp is reached. and if you remove the ags and still have the stock thermostat that doesnt open till 200 degrees its pointless since the ags would be open when the radiator cooling fan is on and the computer commands cooling is needed regardless. removing it is a placebo mod that does more harm than good in the majority of situations.
We've been following your channel for quite some time now and love your videos!
I have a RAM, same generation as yours, with the 5.7 V8 BiFuel purchased in Belgium, Europe (if that makes a difference). Sport crew cab, short box. When driving around town, I've never seen it exceed 95 C (usually even starts to cool when it reaches 94) and could go down all the way to 90, sometimes even 89, before it starts to heat up again according to the evic.
However, today I had to do a lot of highway / freeway driving at about 135~140 km/h (85 mph). I've seen the temp creep up to 97, which kind of scared me a little since it already runs quite a bit hotter than the European cars I'm used to… do you think it's because of the grille shutters? Or is it trying to run a little more efficiently on the highway?
It's what would equal to a full option in the US I believe, except I did not get the air suspension, so it doesn't have aero mode for example.
I'm sorry if my English isn't very good, thank you so much in advance :)
Did you change your grill inserts....I didn't think Sports had the honeycomb insert?
Yes sir! I have a video on it here 🤟
You just saved me 1,500 dollars 😂 thank you
They are a damn headache I don't know why they put them on there any way had them replaced twice and engine light came right back on my 2019 ram Laramie?
Im late but had a question. Hopefully u can help me. I got a 2015 Hyundai Genesis. I have an Active Air flap on mine. Is that basically the same thing u have and can i completely remove it without replacing something different there like u did?
Hi, Are these a must to replace? I received an engine error message for a 2015 Nissan Murano, that it was stuck. 😕
Does this same info apply to a active grill shutter on a 2015 Chrysler 200? Are you still able to pass an emissions test if you take out the grill shutter? Mines causes my engine light to turn on.
Hi, someone hit me at front and broke that active grill shutter and check engine light came on, those vents are open all the time can I still drive it like that? At least until the other party insurance start taking care of it? I’m asking Kuz I have a 2021 Ram 3500 and I do hotshot work and carry heavy loads, so if you know the answer to my question I’ll appreciate it. 🙏
Well articulated
It broke in my nissan, the check engine light is on but the part is still in the engine, hoping it doesn't damage the engine by leaving it in
my friend,can you tell me,if you removed all shuter,radiator fan not stay on all time after 70 degree? i removed just plastics from shuter and i have left just plastic just for servo,otherways radiator fan work all time because not find stop position
My question is that… I have a jeep Cherokee Limited and have removed And replaced the active grill shutter because I thought I needed to. It has not allowed me to use my remote start because of the engine light alert. Is there a way to see activate the engine light so that I am able to use my remote start again?
Did this mod lower the transmission temp while on the highway ???
I know the video is old but did you also have to replace your thermostat now that you will have more air to help cool the engine youll have to change that out too correct?
What vehicles have this grill shutters?
I have a 2019 Ram 1500 and my check engine light came on… hooked it up to the scanner and it says to replace this… I’m so confused lol
Thanks for the video as always. I do have a quick question off the subject of the active grill and that is I recently done a cat back exhaust and was thinking about doing a Y pipe and off-road Y-pipe now I know everywhere in the US that’s illegal because you have to have cats converter‘s but if you were going to add one I would you keep the check engine light coming on is the only way to get a tuner? Thanks again for the info
Thanks Mark! Yeah there are some other ways people have stopped a light you can check out by googling 'O2 defouler' or 'O2 simulator' but of course for Offroad only 😎👍
I have this on my ford explorer. I want to.add a police push bar. Would it hurt if I cut the ends of the lower shutter for the brackets. I dont want to remove all the shutter system.
When dont have the shutter installed, that could trigger the engine alert ?
the small fuel savings gained is lost when this part needs to be replaced , $1200 to replace buys lots of gas
By that logic, it only needs to last 10 tanks of fuel to cover itself
Are the flaps on the front in the middle and bottom that are held on with clips necessary? I just installed a replacement grill on my 2016 and those flaps are in the way of the grill seating correctly without forcing them down. Thanks.
Thanks for the video. I have a question. this is not my question its just a thought , An AGS system on a RAM truck in SO CAL? Like I'll ever sees snow or cold weather in San Diego. I can see where the AGS would be beneficial to keep the engine warm while driving in cold temperatures but My Ram, 2016 5.7 L Hemi lately has been fluctuating the temperature ranges (100 -145 at start up) then from 203 up to 224! Any Thoughts? @ 224 the fan kicks on and cools back down to 203. It will do this even while driving 65- 75 mph on the highways in town. If I run the AC it will run the fan to keep the engine cool. But I don't want the AC on to cool the engine. (I will check the AGS to see if it is working) I wonder if it is remaining shut and not giving a check engine light. I did the mechanical fan delete and installed an electric fan. Also, I have been through 2 water pumps and 2 new thermostats and 1 new temp sensor in the last 2 yrs it is now on its 3rd water pump and 3rd thermostat all due to leaking pump seals (weep hole) This could be due to the high temps I don't know . I m thinking about installing a manual override switch using a relay to turn the fan on and off. I would appreciate any thoughts and suggestions. - Joseph
Thanks for the video.
Thanks Eli! 😎
Soooo what your saying is might not be the end of the world if mine are stuck open on my base 2.0 dart🤷♂️🤷♂️
I have a 2016 dodge dart and the active grille shutter is not good so it keeps bringing the check engine light on my dashboard. Do I need to replace it or should I disregard it? Pls I need answers.
Great videos, how does the heater work with a 180 tstate in the winter. Just wondering
Thanks Alex! 180 thermostat will still work well in the winter it just wont run as hot but warming up to the operating temp will be similar.
One of he black flaps on my shutter broke off how bad is this?
Since I live in northeast Ohio and during the cold winter will this effect the truck in any way?
Still have your shutters. Ill buy from you
Do you get a check engine light if you remove those?
Yes. Mines have a check engine light because it's missing.
Great videos brother I got a 2012 it's almost a 2013 I have a kind of a rough idle and I'm run wondering if it is camshaft. truck runs great though do you have any ideas what the rough idle could be. 66k
How AGS is increasing efficiency in electrical vehicles
I installed a 195 f degrees thermostat and my check engine light came on, how to fix it
You may need a active shutter grille mine came on as well it could be the wires to it as well, I went to oreilys and auto zone to check engine light and they told me that was the problem, good luck
Even If I removed the mechanical fan will the electric fan be enough to make air at idle or help control the temp, mine is a 2017 and has both. I dont like that louver system it's trash Please let me know
Review removed how do you turn your check engine off because I take it off I remove it but I drove 30 miles and the check engine on April the scanner says I’m missing the radiator shuttles
same error you would get if they failed which everyone apparently is afraid would happen without them knowing lol.
i took mine off and the engine light came on, i put it back on and it hasn’t came off what should i do?
The weather here in Iraq is hot,and I don't want these gates, so if I just connect the active actuator (motor) did the fan will be working properly??
you can remove the shutters but leave the motor connected. the shutters open whenever the radiator fans actually kick on while the thermostat is open so it wont have the effect you think by removing them.
Can you tell me if the shutters produce a humming sound or whistle?
AGS system is completely unnecessary, unless there is no thermostat equipped. If thermostat is closed there is no coolant flow thru the radiator that the passing air can cool, thus the engine will reach operating temperature just as quickly with or without AGS. If they are closed during highway driving for "aerodynamics" your engine is probably getting too hot while driving. Thermostat is what truly regulates engine temp...along with other factors ie. Cooling fan speed, timing, etc.
Yet multiple car engineering team have decided to spend extra r&D and extra money in installing them regardless of your logic. Normally I would agree with you but it must still make a difference besides the differences it makes in the transmission and turbo cooling even if it is just less cold air rushing through the engine compartment.
@@fathergratwick Respectfully to you, there's no real R&D involved. Other than coming up with an unnecessary component that is design to fail for dealer profit. Yes! Planned obsolescence is a real thing. As for spending the extra money? The stock AGS is made entirely of cheap, brittle plastic with a faulty motor. Probably cost the manufacturer pennys to produce & install, charged the consumer hundreds in sticker price. Then will charge hundreds more to service the system when it fails. And it WILL fail.
@@stevenromero1801 Ive respectfully disagree. Ive owned a few and still own a classic and if your statement had merit newer vehicles wouldnt be running circles around those old simple designs as far as vehicle lifespan. we are not all engineers so we like to believe its all about conspiracy theories I guess. we all like to think we can stick it to the man by undoing some feature our car came with the save us money? planned obsolescence it a thing I agree (without it we would mostly be driving very old vehicles right now) .. but removing the shutters is not a going to do a damn thing to deter or effect that IMO. Ironically the person who made this video didnt even research how the shutters truly work
@@fathergratwick Fair enough. I respect your opinion. Never said newer vehicles weren't more powerful than oldies. The more efficient the engine, the more power it produces with less fuel & emissions. That's true. However, if it makes you feel better to spend a ton of money constantly fixing your new car, go right on ahead. Personally, I'd rather stay on the streets with my simple, DEPENDABLE designs. As an ASE tech, who has to do the actual repairs on these new POS, it's just more money in my pocket anyways 😉.
@@stevenromero1801you are absolutely right. These car manufacturers are in business to make money. The only "green" they are concerned with is the green in their pocket. This is no different than the infamous EGR system... It's more shit they add for you to spend money on later. Cars run more efficient now because they are tuned better with EFI (electronic fuel injection) and EIS (electronic ignition system) - no more distributors/carburetors - some of the last useful designs on modern vehicles. These shutters are shit, and the "team of engineers" who designed this are idiots (or not, since I'm sure they'll get nicely compensation for the bigger company profits). Anyone mechanically inclined knows cooler engines run better.
Hotter engines = durability and performance..….said no one ever!
If you remove the active grill shutters will it make the check engine light come on?
Yup
great video
Thanks Joe!
For those not adding an IC;
How about DC'ing the drive motor then adding an old choke cable to 'tune' it? :P
I would never have deleted that. I'm thinking about ADDING those to my classic truck to keep the engine warm in the winter. I would have just disconnected them and forced them to stay in the open position if I were you.
He's adding an intercooler for his super charger. He needs the room
Great video from great guy
Did you say ur putting a turbo in it ? What engine is in urs ?
Did u use the twc fan if so how is it working I got it jus have not installed it yet
Hey Tim I actually found a OEM Denso fan out of a wrecked truck that has been working great! I know a lot of guys running the TYC fans but some complain of vibration from the cheaper fan 🤔
Hello.... What did you do with your AGS assembly? did you dispose of it? if not, would you be interested in selling it to me? mine is busted...and I need another one, I have a 2016 RAM 1500 LoneStar Edition (SLT). Thank in advance...
Thanks for the video. I have a quick question. I have removed active grill for my ford focus 2018, the car is is performing pretty cool without it. However, the fan runs after few minutes I start the engine and does not stop until I switch off the car off. Please advise what might be the issue or what should I do with the fan?
have you checked the cooling fan relay ? And also check the temp sending unit . It could be stuck in the "on"' position until the coolant reaches a certain temp.
Did the Silverado you installed the light bar in have grill shutters?
Nope no shutters
Mine broke on my 2015 Ford Escape. Do you know how that would break? Like from accident or would you think it could break on it’s Own?
Also I’ve only had the car for 5 months
"Removed mechanical fan" ??? Did you install an electric fan instead?
He did install a electric fan
Nice video as usual, quick question, how do I know that the AGS are actually working? Is there a way to test these? I have noticed that when I turn off my truck that there is a noise that sounds like a small motor running, this will also occur at times just before I start the truck remotely.
Hey Don! If you have remote start take a peek through the front grille and hit the remote start or get someone to start your truck and within the first minute you'll see the grilles run through the test procedure to check for full operation as they fully close and open.
Just as you mentioned, I used the remote start and did see the shutters close. Thanks for the obvious tip. Hey they say the only stupid question is the one that isn't asked!
Did removing the shutters help lower trans temps? I don't like the fact my trans temp is 192-195 at interstate speeds around 80 mph
Hey Tony these 8 speeds are designed to run that hot and actually have a small thermostat to keep them at that temp and wont pass fluid to the trans cooler until it is up to that temp
Lol thats normal. Way to worry about something that isnt an issue at all
I have a 13 Chrysler 200 with this code, an I jam the shutter open?
thanks very much
Can u help me out ive got a 6" lift on my truck with 22X12 wheels running 35" tires my temperature is between 219/222! Thats on the highway in town im at about 214. Is that normal cause of the lift ive got and bigger wheels? Was wondering if i should take off the shutters. I got a 2017 ram 1500 with the 3.6 pentastar.. Any info would be great thanks
Hey Raul do you have the 8 speed? The thermostat on these trucks are usually pretty high stock but I haven't had to deal with the V6 on these trucks to be honest. As a simple test I would try unplugging your shutters with them open or temporarily removing them to see if it will help before you commit to deleting them! Keep us updated!