@@alissonoliveira7960 Tarja turunen is not a real operatic soprano??? Haven't you seen that Woman singing Phantom of the opera and Handels work? Also Tarja can reach a B6 and SHE IS a trained classic soprano with masters and everything
@@alissonoliveira7960 also Sharon is Classically trained as well, I'm OK with you not knowing Sharon is classically trained, but not NOT KNOWING ABOUT TARJA??? The woman used to sing opera BEFORE NIGHTWISH even
@@alissonoliveira7960 Plus may I remind you that the symphonic metal was invented by Tuomas Huolopainen because OF TARJA'S CLASSICAL TRAINING , she was singing puccini since she was 16
Am I the only one who likes this song best with Dianne's vocals than Manuela's? I first stumbled onto this band with Dianne's performances, and I listened to Manuela's voice after, but Dianne's performance is by far more astounding.
Both are great! I don´t know if the audio quality was not so good.Seems that Manuela has a stronger voice,but dianne´s one is more versatile.I can´t decide which one i preffer.Furthermore its difficult to sing a song made for another type of voice.Unforttunately,i missed their show in Brazil.It is another reason to travel to Europe.In my opinion ,the russian audience is the best.The same happened to Rammstein´s shows at that country.Up synphonic and industrial metal.After the doors i ve never experience this kind of sensation.Marco´s compositions are simply amazing.Its hard to find stuff like that in metal bands.Brazilian´s fans had a wonderfull surprise with the use of latim expressions,since this is a "dead" language.CHEERS
The mix on the entire album is shit. Nothing but crapton of channel cross talk, with guitar distortion trampling all over everything and everyone in its path.
Nightwish and Xandria both struggle with multiple singers now. Anytime someone other than the original singer of a song sings it, people complain. Same shit plagues bands like Van Halen and Black Sabbath to this day. Only AC/DC seems to avoid this problem. It's not even the original singer - imagine Anete's material in Nightwish with Tarja? Eugh - no. Same with Xandria - Manuella's material sounds weird without her. That being said, she sounds way different than Manuella singing this song. She needs to go full soprano for most of it to make it sounds better IMO.
+Turdman12 It's the curse of the sopranos. Sopranos are Divas. Divas is Italian for celebrated female singer. Divas is also interchangeable with Prima Donna - Italian opera term for leading lady, usually a soprano. They know they have the voice of an angel. One as capable as Tarja, Manuela, or Elina Siirala know that they draw listeners like moths to a flame. This causes conflict with those old human flaws - arrogance and jealousy. The soprano must realize she may draw them but the strength of the rest of band and the compositions are what will keep them coming back for more.
It all has to do with what someone hears first. If Neverworlds End was recorded with Dianne's voice and she was replaced by Manuela, we would hear the same criticism, only in favor of Dianne. And I am sure if Manuela had recorded Sacrificium, people would say they prefer it with Manuela. I think the overall 'music is especially written for him or her' is most of the time an illusion...
No is a matter of fighting and a matter of recognizing Diana, stripes are better and superior to others, the problem that fans do not admit, that a proof seriously asks which he wants a real singing teacher. Simple fast. I do not speak preferably but of techniques and power in the voice
•Sorry But... She is so static On Stage... And how can the beauty Voice of Dianne Make That beauty creation a lazy Song? Sorry But The Neverworld's End Songs are Only For Manuela... I Like Dianne.. But Manuela was so Much Better On Stage.. Their vocal range are so diferent.... Obviously, But i preffer Manuela •lo siento pero... Es una estatua en el escenario.. Y como puede la hermosa voz de Dianne hacer esa hermosa una canción floja? Lo lamento pero las canciones de Neverworld's End son únicamente para Manuela... Me gusta Dianne pero Manuela era mucho mejor en el escenario... Sus rangos vocales son diferentes obviamente... Pero prefiero a Manuela!
Jûliân Hêrnândêz This is not a song where the singer should move around a lot, but when I compare the stage presences of both singers in this song, it is Manuela who is the most static one. Dianne dances in the bridge, has interaction with the other band members and is all confidence on stage. It is perfectly fine to be a fan of Manuela, and I too think she is really a great singer, but I object to the remark about stage performances. Personally I think Dianne as a singer is in a class of her own. I am not even going to compare her to other singers.
There are many Performances (The most) of Forevermore when manuela moves so much More Than Dianne.. Is Nwot The only Performance of Dianne where she is so static on Stage
+Jüliân Hndëz So much yes! I couldn't agree more. This whole album was made for Manuela's vocals. This chick is trying too hard to imitate Tarja in my opinion.
+Jüliân Hndëz En mi opinión ella cantó bien y no siempre tiene que estar moviendose en todas las canciones por el escenario... Si Manuela lo hacía, pues era ella... son dos estilos diferentes. Está más que claro que prefieres a Manuela (ya he visto varios de tus comentarios en varios videos donde canta Dianne) Es cierto Manuella es muy buena en muchos aspectos. Pero creo que Dianne también destaca. No canta igual que Manuela, pero lo hace bien. Dices no tener nada en contra de ella pero vienes a criticarla :v :P
Xandria is never going to make it to the "Nightwish level" if they don't do a couple of things. First and foremost, they need to tour with a keyboard player, so they can get rid of at least some of the backing tape tracks. Second, I think this is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. However, the entire mix of the alum is horrific. I realize metal has to have distortion to exist. In the case of the "Neverworld's End" album, the distortion encompasses all of the tracks, and turns it into sludge. The vocals are distorted, the chorus is distorted, the strings are distorted, you name it, it's distorted. Either one of these singers, Manuela or Dianne, is well capable of making the song her own. But the production values, backing tracks, and lack of a competent mix down from a live performance, will keep the band as a second class act forever. Oddly, I don't think Xandria sounds a bit like Nightwish. I fact I prefer their more melodic style to that of Nightwish
@@pcgamesjogosryzen7768 Sadly, for most intents and purposes, "Xandria has left the building" They kicked Dianne out of the band after, "Theater of Dimensions" (2017), and haven't put anything out since. Tarja's offbeat Finnish accent did give Nightwish an exotic flavor, which Floor lacks. But hey, just because she speaks better English, is no reason to put her down. Maybe this will change your mind a bit about Floor: ua-cam.com/video/XKNg2dcO94k/v-deo.html
@@captaincrankysdock9730 for real you are saying the only difference between Floor and Tarja IS ACCENT ? Not going to mention the HUGE technical difference?? like Tarja is way superior than Floor when it comes to lyrical singing ? That FYI it's key for nightwish , not her random death growls
@@captaincrankysdock9730 Plus in your video she sounds just Average, the guy is literally way better than her, the best defence I saw for her was this live ua-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/v-deo.html which surprisingly she was okish and not so out of tune like her live of Stargazers , end of all hope, bless the child and so on, but she is not even near the level Tarja is, which singing the same song you can see Tarja is 10000 light years ahead technically , not only for Opera but for Heavy metal too, Tarjas version of Supremacy is something Floor could never perform as good as
More sopranos in metal like her please!!! \0/
Tarja Turunen, Sharon Den Adel, Simone Simmons, Elyze Ryd "Am I a joke to you?"
@@LadyNightwish I think she meant real operatic sopranos...
@@alissonoliveira7960 Tarja turunen is not a real operatic soprano??? Haven't you seen that Woman singing Phantom of the opera and Handels work? Also Tarja can reach a B6 and SHE IS a trained classic soprano with masters and everything
@@alissonoliveira7960 also Sharon is Classically trained as well, I'm OK with you not knowing Sharon is classically trained, but not NOT KNOWING ABOUT TARJA??? The woman used to sing opera BEFORE NIGHTWISH even
@@alissonoliveira7960 Plus may I remind you that the symphonic metal was invented by Tuomas Huolopainen because OF TARJA'S CLASSICAL TRAINING , she was singing puccini since she was 16
I'm so sad for Dianne leave Xandria in their best moment of carrer!
Wow! Diane is so great!!!!! ^^
Wonderful Diane!
Perfeição 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Am I the only one who likes this song best with Dianne's vocals than Manuela's? I first stumbled onto this band with Dianne's performances, and I listened to Manuela's voice after, but Dianne's performance is by far more astounding.
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Maravilhosaaaa ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Such a great song
Both are great! I don´t know if the audio quality was not so good.Seems that Manuela has a stronger voice,but dianne´s one is more versatile.I can´t decide which one i preffer.Furthermore its difficult to sing a song made for another type of voice.Unforttunately,i missed their show in Brazil.It is another reason to travel to Europe.In my opinion ,the russian audience is the best.The same happened to Rammstein´s shows at that country.Up synphonic and industrial metal.After the doors i ve never experience this kind of sensation.Marco´s compositions are simply amazing.Its hard to find stuff like that in metal bands.Brazilian´s fans had a wonderfull surprise with the use of latim expressions,since this is a "dead" language.CHEERS
The mix on the entire album is shit. Nothing but crapton of channel cross talk, with guitar distortion trampling all over everything and everyone in its path.
Dianne has a very sweet but soft voice.....she's not the same category as Tarja Turunen, but she does have a silky operatic way about her singing.
Nightwish and Xandria both struggle with multiple singers now. Anytime someone other than the original singer of a song sings it, people complain. Same shit plagues bands like Van Halen and Black Sabbath to this day. Only AC/DC seems to avoid this problem. It's not even the original singer - imagine Anete's material in Nightwish with Tarja? Eugh - no. Same with Xandria - Manuella's material sounds weird without her.
That being said, she sounds way different than Manuella singing this song. She needs to go full soprano for most of it to make it sounds better IMO.
+Turdman12 It's the curse of the sopranos. Sopranos are Divas. Divas is Italian for celebrated female singer. Divas is also interchangeable with Prima Donna - Italian opera term for leading lady, usually a soprano. They know they have the voice of an angel. One as capable as Tarja, Manuela, or Elina Siirala know that they draw listeners like moths to a flame. This causes conflict with those old human flaws - arrogance and jealousy. The soprano must realize she may draw them but the strength of the rest of band and the compositions are what will keep them coming back for more.
It all has to do with what someone hears first. If Neverworlds End was recorded with Dianne's voice and she was replaced by Manuela, we would hear the same criticism, only in favor of Dianne. And I am sure if Manuela had recorded Sacrificium, people would say they prefer it with Manuela. I think the overall 'music is especially written for him or her' is most of the time an illusion...
No is a matter of fighting and a matter of recognizing Diana, stripes are better and superior to others, the problem that fans do not admit, that a proof seriously asks which he wants a real singing teacher. Simple fast. I do not speak preferably but of techniques and power in the voice
No Stripes, * Yes Tarja
•Sorry But... She is so static On Stage... And how can the beauty Voice of Dianne Make That beauty creation a lazy Song? Sorry But The Neverworld's End Songs are Only For Manuela... I Like Dianne.. But Manuela was so Much Better On Stage.. Their vocal range are so diferent.... Obviously, But i preffer Manuela
•lo siento pero... Es una estatua en el escenario.. Y como puede la hermosa voz de Dianne hacer esa hermosa una canción floja?
Lo lamento pero las canciones de Neverworld's End son únicamente para Manuela... Me gusta Dianne pero Manuela era mucho mejor en el escenario... Sus rangos vocales son diferentes obviamente... Pero prefiero a Manuela!
Jûliân Hêrnândêz
This is not a song where the singer should move around a lot, but when I compare the stage presences of both singers in this song, it is Manuela who is the most static one. Dianne dances in the bridge, has interaction with the other band members and is all confidence on stage.
It is perfectly fine to be a fan of Manuela, and I too think she is really a great singer, but I object to the remark about stage performances.
Personally I think Dianne as a singer is in a class of her own. I am not even going to compare her to other singers.
There are many Performances (The most) of Forevermore when manuela moves so much More Than Dianne.. Is Nwot The only Performance of Dianne where she is so static on Stage
+Jüliân Hndëz So much yes! I couldn't agree more. This whole album was made for Manuela's vocals. This chick is trying too hard to imitate Tarja in my opinion.
Agree with you... but beyond that Dianne is so much better than Tarja
+Jüliân Hndëz En mi opinión ella cantó bien y no siempre tiene que estar moviendose en todas las canciones por el escenario... Si Manuela lo hacía, pues era ella... son dos estilos diferentes. Está más que claro que prefieres a Manuela (ya he visto varios de tus comentarios en varios videos donde canta Dianne) Es cierto Manuella es muy buena en muchos aspectos. Pero creo que Dianne también destaca. No canta igual que Manuela, pero lo hace bien. Dices no tener nada en contra de ella pero vienes a criticarla :v :P
Both ladies have their strengths but this song was vastly superior by Manuela.
Vastly superior on which aspect? Tecnical or tonal? Because i don't really see the superiority that you're talking about...
I agree. Danielle is amazing
Xandria is never going to make it to the "Nightwish level" if they don't do a couple of things. First and foremost, they need to tour with a keyboard player, so they can get rid of at least some of the backing tape tracks. Second, I think this is one of the most beautiful songs I've ever heard. However, the entire mix of the alum is horrific. I realize metal has to have distortion to exist. In the case of the "Neverworld's End" album, the distortion encompasses all of the tracks, and turns it into sludge. The vocals are distorted, the chorus is distorted, the strings are distorted, you name it, it's distorted.
Either one of these singers, Manuela or Dianne, is well capable of making the song her own. But the production values, backing tracks, and lack of a competent mix down from a live performance, will keep the band as a second class act forever.
Oddly, I don't think Xandria sounds a bit like Nightwish. I fact I prefer their more melodic style to that of Nightwish
Captaincrankys' Dock gotta agree with you
they have arrived, because this floor in Nightwish sounds like pop rock kkkkkk
@@pcgamesjogosryzen7768 Sadly, for most intents and purposes, "Xandria has left the building" They kicked Dianne out of the band after, "Theater of Dimensions" (2017), and haven't put anything out since.
Tarja's offbeat Finnish accent did give Nightwish an exotic flavor, which Floor lacks. But hey, just because she speaks better English, is no reason to put her down.
Maybe this will change your mind a bit about Floor: ua-cam.com/video/XKNg2dcO94k/v-deo.html
@@captaincrankysdock9730 for real you are saying the only difference between Floor and Tarja IS ACCENT ? Not going to mention the HUGE technical difference?? like Tarja is way superior than Floor when it comes to lyrical singing ? That FYI it's key for nightwish , not her random death growls
@@captaincrankysdock9730 Plus in your video she sounds just Average, the guy is literally way better than her, the best defence I saw for her was this live ua-cam.com/video/UeTyAZtV5wI/v-deo.html which surprisingly she was okish and not so out of tune like her live of Stargazers , end of all hope, bless the child and so on, but she is not even near the level Tarja is, which singing the same song you can see Tarja is 10000 light years ahead technically , not only for Opera but for Heavy metal too, Tarjas version of Supremacy is something Floor could never perform as good as