As far as spec goes, the Fuel EX 7 and the Roscoe 8 have similar parts, with a $1100 difference in price. As far as performance on the Roscoe, I can ride it down 95% of the trails that I ride on my Slash. It's a seriously capable hardtail. I actually prefer the Roscoe on 50% of trails i ride. I'm lucky enough to have a full sus and a hardtail, but if I was getting only one bike to ride, I think I'd take a well built hardtail over a under speced full sus.
I just got a 2023 roscoe 8. Had one tiny nick in the paint and got it for 2200. I prefer hardtails over full suspension. The only time you need full suspension is if your doing massive downhill trails. Other than that a hardtail is the way to go.
@DB-sd3cw ya that's how it works. The longer you wait the better the prices get. I got mine the first week they were out. I was going to buy the new fuel but learned that lesson to wait. When trek days comes again it will be way cheaper.
coming from years full sus mtb's...i recently bought this bike as a compromise to also do some single track bikepacking...not expecting so much from it, i was incredibly surprised at how versatile and good this bike is allround and especially on descents. fantastic bike in my opinion
Picked up two roscoe 7s, one in black for me and one in Miami green for my GF a few weeks ago. Took an entire year to get them and they were worth the wait!
Hey. I bought a Trek Roscoe 9 recently and was wondering what tires you have preferred to use on this bike? Just so you know, the trails I'll be using it on are easy to intermediate level. Thanks
I've had my Roscoe 9 for 3 weeks now, I'm 6'0" and went 2 sizes too small (I got an M, not the recommended L or M/L). It's sooooo good! It manuals like a dream and the rear end wants to pop up on demand. When I test rode the M/L it was too long and wouldn't manual if you want pop off obstacles and freeride stuff. The 29x2.6" tires are like cheater tires, huge traction everywhere, BUT they grip so well they're slower on pavement than grass, haha
Good stuff. I’m 5’11 with a 32 inseam and like to jump and act like my 15 yr old self back in my bmx days. So would you recommend a medium for me? Going to order soon! 🤙🏻
@@caseyholthaus6626 Yes! I recommend you test ride a Large and Medium/Large to confirm they feel too long to manual comfortably, and then try the medium. The medium is plenty planted when you want to stick to trail but you can get it into a manual with ease when you want to jump or score style points. The medium also does trials work (pedal kicks and such) nicely with the super side bar and wide gooey tubeless tires. It reminds me of my trials bikes more than any trail bikes ever has!
I'm debating if I should get a roscoe 9 or a fuel ex 5. Right now I'm taking my xcaliber 7 on some tough trails. So either bike would be a massive upgrade.
@@samharris3508 I would go for the fuel ex if you’re doing some big jumps or more down hill ridding. Just so you can have that rear shock absorb the big hits.
I got my 9 June 1st and according to my local trek store, I got the first one in Idaho but I don't know. I was gonna get the 8 because it was a little cheaper than the 9 but I decided on the 9 because of the fox 36 shock over the rockshox and mainly the color, I like it a lot more than the 8 options. I am not an aggressive rider at all but I will say that the way the 9 feels under me has definitely boosted my confidence on the trail
I’m waiting for the different color. Hopefully. I’ve seen one in person and love it. But the color is hard to take. I’m just not a “military bike” person.
Hi Chris, great video ! I am 179 cm (5"10.5) with a 83 cm (33') inseam. I have tried this bike in M/L and L and very hard to choose. M/L will be much more playfull but not as stable as the L one. What would you recommend ? Cheers
Hey there. Thx for the vid! So I've been in the marked for a hartdale for some time. I thouhgt about buying new but I'm glad I waited. Found a 2022 R7 on fb with Sram axs, and hardly used at all. a real find for just $700 usd. I'm so glad I waited, I almost dropped $2k plus on a new one. Honestly the hubs and saddle will suit me perfectly. I ride mostly road on my Scott cr1 and BMC Rm01. This should easily be super cumfy with the dropper. Not worried at all about the higher costing components. Just want the option to ride MTn in style and with a truly capable great looking Hardtale! Been researching for three months now, glad to finally own a Trek!
I love hard tail bikes. I actually got rid of my full suspension bike and stick to hard tails. They are just too much fun to throw around and if you know how to ride you can handle mostly anything
I agree, I've owned 4 full suspension trail + freeride bikes, dirt jumpers, hardtails, etc, and I now do everything on my Roscoe. My full suspension riding buddies pull ahead on bumpy descents but I reel them back in on the climbs. On high and low speed corners we're about evenly matched. When we get to obstacles, I find the "pop" you get on a hardtail gives me a huge advantage jumping stuff. I also like intentionally breaking traction with the rear wheel to improve rotation, something that's harder to do on fullies.
The Salsa Timberjack XT for $2200 is still one of the best hard tails out there for the money in my opinion. Shimano XT derailer and shifter with MT501 brakes 👌🏻
I am considering buying a Roscoe 8 or 9, is the difference that big or is it minimal? I want to use it for bikepacking in the woods in the Alps... or should i better buy an other bike?
@@MrMeatPotatoes Personally I'd buy the Roscoe because 1- It's cheaper so you have more money left over for upgrades or equipment (clothing, helmet, shoes, pads, etc.). 2- If you are a beginner you are gonna develop a better technique with a hardtail. 3- Climbing is way way easier on a hardtail. 4- Sometimes hardtails are simply more fun!
I am.so curious when it comes to the new geometry of roscoe...! I love love love my 2019 Roscoe 8... 27.5 hardtail - bought it second hand. It is offent my weapon of choice. It's simple efficient comfy and fun. (I have a downcontry 120 mm fully.)
I have a 2021 Roscoe 8 upgraded w/ Kovee comp line 25 (29er) and I really want to just get this and make that my trail bike. I just don't want to pay 2700 dollars so I'll buy it used next year lol.
@@goodluckchrisclark I certainly hope so!! I'm hoping someone will look at their Roscoe 9 and see Christmas money. My kids are old enough to understand "you're getting less this year cause I bought another bike" j/k lol
@boing7644 no, it's perfect. Dropper post is as low as it goes and when fully extended its the perfect height so I get max travel on it from as high as I need it to as low as it goes. I put a shorter stem and higher bars on it and it's awesome.
That's excellent. On my full sus XL giant trance x 3 I need to have the dropper up really high even though it has 170mm travel. Guess the sag in the suspension makes a difference.@@Channel-io1di
I'm 55 .If you could own ONLY ONE bike for street riding and trails - could this do both ? Looking for a capable/reliable trail bike that is also comfortable enough to ride like a normal bike with the family. My current ride is a modded '21 Marlin 7 (29'er.) Thanks
A lot of people just don't want a full suspension for various reasons. When a person rides a hardtail it isn't necessarily because they couldn't afford a full suspension.
I am looking for a new bike. I have an XCaliber 9 which is an entry level XC bike. I am concerned about how heavy a full suspension bike will be at the $3k price point. I don’t want a 34 pound full suspension build. This is one of the bike selling points of the Roscoe 9 for me: Good components and under 30 pounds for $2800.
@@Durwood71 Hardtails is ok if you ride casual trails. But sorry when it comes to tougher trails there is absolutely no comparison. I switched from decent hardtail mtb to full suspension crabon frame slash. Its not even the same planet. I was hesitant buying it because of the price, but once i did. Never looked back again. I can see myself riding hardtail on very casual ride in say wood trails. But anything else, not even close. Slash 170 mm front and 160 mm in the back with superdeluxe suspension flies over roots, stone tough terrain, jumps and you feel actually safe. The bike gives you far more security and confidence. My back was getting killed on hardtail. I can see hardtails being used, but if you have money there is no question. Go for the suspension any day of the week.
@@painterabc123 Most low end suspension bikes are still killer bikes. I mean if you have 3k. I would just save a bit more and go for about 4k mark. I went with 9000 dollar trek slash, but its meant for my specific riding of enduro etc. If you are casual rider and dont need to much suspension. Imo 2023 trek fuel ex is the best shit you cant get. For 4k you can get fuel ex 8. Its aluminium frame with pretty good components. Can do just about any terrain aside from like hardcore enduro and downhill. Still can handle some enduro. This is the best price to bike ratio out there. If you want enduro take slash 8. Its a beast of a bike for 4k. No offense bnut spending 3000 dollar on a hardtail i just dumb as hell. Fuel ex 8 looks miles better and rides levels above roscoe and price difference is 1k. No matter what components roscoe has it cant even be put in the same league as fuel ex8 with. You get fox float x and fox 36 in the front and shimano xt stuff. Not much better you can get out there.
I don't know. I mean it's a beautiful bike indeed. But it's aluminum and for hardtails not all aluminum bikes are great. The mix match of parts and semi decent drive train and those brakes are trash, they are great if you riding xc or urban riding but if you trying to shred, rocky tech and steep shit, those breaks will not help you stop right away.
@@andrewbrown8927 yes, well not a hardtail by trek but had a full sus by them. A trek slash to be exact but I loved it.. its just both hardtails I own are great but my steel one is incredible compared to my aluminum. The steel is a pipedream moxie (steel) and a ragley (steel) ass well. They are amazing and the aluminum one is very harsh when jumping and down any tech
@@dev_IL666 they calipers are shimano top line but the levers are cheaper. But wither way they work well. I was planning on upgrading the levers later. I wanted a ragley mmmbop but it was a pain to find a seller.
As far as spec goes, the Fuel EX 7 and the Roscoe 8 have similar parts, with a $1100 difference in price. As far as performance on the Roscoe, I can ride it down 95% of the trails that I ride on my Slash. It's a seriously capable hardtail. I actually prefer the Roscoe on 50% of trails i ride. I'm lucky enough to have a full sus and a hardtail, but if I was getting only one bike to ride, I think I'd take a well built hardtail over a under speced full sus.
I just got a 2023 roscoe 8. Had one tiny nick in the paint and got it for 2200. I prefer hardtails over full suspension. The only time you need full suspension is if your doing massive downhill trails. Other than that a hardtail is the way to go.
WHAT?? I'll give ya 2100 :) It has had 3 owners now j/k lol
@@realryanward I know a guy called Ryan Ward, he’s a crack head.
@@hc3820 loooooool
Dang I just bought a roscoe 9 for 2400. Shoulda waited bud
@DB-sd3cw ya that's how it works. The longer you wait the better the prices get. I got mine the first week they were out. I was going to buy the new fuel but learned that lesson to wait. When trek days comes again it will be way cheaper.
Ordered my Roscoe 9 today! (3-2-24). I currently ride a Fuel EX 9.8 & FX Sport 6. Happy trails!
coming from years full sus mtb's...i recently bought this bike as a compromise to also do some single track bikepacking...not expecting so much from it, i was incredibly surprised at how versatile and good this bike is allround and especially on descents. fantastic bike in my opinion
Picked up two roscoe 7s, one in black for me and one in Miami green for my GF a few weeks ago. Took an entire year to get them and they were worth the wait!
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i got really lucky as a shop close to mine had an XL R9 in stock so, i waited no time at all. incredible bike. huge jump from my marlin 6.
Big upgrade! Enjoy
What is your height? I've just ordered my R9 XL last night. I'm slightly worried it is going to be too big for me. I rode a Marlin 5 XL before.
I own the Roscoe 8. Very happy w it.
Definitely a great bike
Hey. I bought a Trek Roscoe 9 recently and was wondering what tires you have preferred to use on this bike? Just so you know, the trails I'll be using it on are easy to intermediate level. Thanks
The stock ones work great, surprising fast rolling
Great review! Thank you. Do you think you could also use this for cross country, what would be the main drawbacks? Thanks!
Honestly the tires would be the biggest drawback, they will roll slower then other options out there, but at least that's an easy swap
@@goodluckchrisclark thank you 🙂
I've had my Roscoe 9 for 3 weeks now, I'm 6'0" and went 2 sizes too small (I got an M, not the recommended L or M/L). It's sooooo good! It manuals like a dream and the rear end wants to pop up on demand. When I test rode the M/L it was too long and wouldn't manual if you want pop off obstacles and freeride stuff. The 29x2.6" tires are like cheater tires, huge traction everywhere, BUT they grip so well they're slower on pavement than grass, haha
Good stuff. I’m 5’11 with a 32 inseam and like to jump and act like my 15 yr old self back in my bmx days. So would you recommend a medium for me? Going to order soon! 🤙🏻
@@caseyholthaus6626 Yes! I recommend you test ride a Large and Medium/Large to confirm they feel too long to manual comfortably, and then try the medium. The medium is plenty planted when you want to stick to trail but you can get it into a manual with ease when you want to jump or score style points. The medium also does trials work (pedal kicks and such) nicely with the super side bar and wide gooey tubeless tires. It reminds me of my trials bikes more than any trail bikes ever has!
@@chillphung8327 you’re amazing bro
Haha so true about the tires on pavement
@@caseyholthaus6626 definitely medium. I’m 6ft and brought a medium today. Thing is perfect after my remedy m/l
I bought my Roscoe 8 back in August and I absolutely love it! It absolutely shreds on the trails!!! I can only imagine the Roscoe 9 being even better.
Roscoe 8 is still a great bike
I'm debating if I should get a roscoe 9 or a fuel ex 5. Right now I'm taking my xcaliber 7 on some tough trails. So either bike would be a massive upgrade.
@@samharris3508 Check out the Commencal meta ht am and ragley big al
@@samharris3508 I would go for the fuel ex if you’re doing some big jumps or more down hill ridding. Just so you can have that rear shock absorb the big hits.
I got my 9 June 1st and according to my local trek store, I got the first one in Idaho but I don't know. I was gonna get the 8 because it was a little cheaper than the 9 but I decided on the 9 because of the fox 36 shock over the rockshox and mainly the color, I like it a lot more than the 8 options. I am not an aggressive rider at all but I will say that the way the 9 feels under me has definitely boosted my confidence on the trail
I’m waiting for the different color. Hopefully. I’ve seen one in person and love it. But the color is hard to take. I’m just not a “military bike” person.
Haha I get it!
Finally got mine after ordering 12 months ago, love it.
We also ordered this over a year ago! Enjoy it
@@goodluckchrisclark Thanks! I had time to save more cash and upgraded to XT groupset :)
That's crazy, here in Ohio my local bike shop has multiple in stock ready to buy for months.
@@realryanward I'm in Australia mate, things take a long time to get here at the moment :)
@@Nico-kt4st Ahh gotcha.. That sucks, i've heard how bad some tech stuff is marked up in price over there too.
Hi Chris, great video ! I am 179 cm (5"10.5) with a 83 cm (33') inseam. I have tried this bike in M/L and L and very hard to choose. M/L will be much more playfull but not as stable as the L one. What would you recommend ? Cheers
I'd go M/L all the way, definately will fit you excellently
Go small cuz we all know you’re really 5’ 1” bozo 🤡😅😑😮💨😪
Hey there. Thx for the vid! So I've been in the marked for a hartdale for some time. I thouhgt about buying new but I'm glad I waited. Found a 2022 R7 on fb with Sram axs, and hardly used at all. a real find for just $700 usd. I'm so glad I waited, I almost dropped $2k plus on a new one. Honestly the hubs and saddle will suit me perfectly. I ride mostly road on my Scott cr1 and BMC Rm01. This should easily be super cumfy with the dropper. Not worried at all about the higher costing components. Just want the option to ride MTn in style and with a truly capable great looking Hardtale! Been researching for three months now, glad to finally own a Trek!
Couldn't afford it got the 7 and will upgrade the fork later to a pike of needed.
That's a great option, nice it's able to add good parts
I love hard tail bikes. I actually got rid of my full suspension bike and stick to hard tails. They are just too much fun to throw around and if you know how to ride you can handle mostly anything
Totally true, they are extremely playful
I agree, I've owned 4 full suspension trail + freeride bikes, dirt jumpers, hardtails, etc, and I now do everything on my Roscoe. My full suspension riding buddies pull ahead on bumpy descents but I reel them back in on the climbs. On high and low speed corners we're about evenly matched. When we get to obstacles, I find the "pop" you get on a hardtail gives me a huge advantage jumping stuff. I also like intentionally breaking traction with the rear wheel to improve rotation, something that's harder to do on fullies.
My local trek has the 9 on $1,899 only 2 left and wondering to pull the trigger and they have the 8s on 1599 so I’m thinking on getting a new bike
The Salsa Timberjack XT for $2200 is still one of the best hard tails out there for the money in my opinion. Shimano XT derailer and shifter with MT501 brakes 👌🏻
That’s not bad, Salsa makes great bikes
Salsas are trash
I am considering buying a Roscoe 8 or 9, is the difference that big or is it minimal? I want to use it for bikepacking in the woods in the Alps... or should i better buy an other bike?
Roscoe 8 for bikepacking
A&l is that in brandon mb?do you have other color available for this bike?
Just the one in stock
I own the Trek Fuel EX 9.7 gen 6. and the Roscoe 9, have similar components so in spare parts I don't worry, I have stock, I have fun with both!
If you had to pick ONE which would you go with? Those two are actually the exact two bikes in deciding between!
@@MrMeatPotatoes Personally I'd buy the Roscoe because
1- It's cheaper so you have more money left over for upgrades or equipment (clothing, helmet, shoes, pads, etc.).
2- If you are a beginner you are gonna develop a better technique with a hardtail.
3- Climbing is way way easier on a hardtail.
4- Sometimes hardtails are simply more fun!
I am.so curious when it comes to the new geometry of roscoe...!
I love love love my 2019 Roscoe 8... 27.5 hardtail - bought it second hand. It is offent my weapon of choice. It's simple efficient comfy and fun.
(I have a downcontry 120 mm fully.)
Roscoe 8 on sale 2,000 and the 9 on sale at 2,500 is the 9 still the better buy?
tough, the 9 is very well specs but the 8 definitely has everything you need
I have a 2021 Roscoe 8 upgraded w/ Kovee comp line 25 (29er) and I really want to just get this and make that my trail bike. I just don't want to pay 2700 dollars so I'll buy it used next year lol.
Haha there should be some COVID purchases coming up for sale eventually
@@goodluckchrisclark I certainly hope so!! I'm hoping someone will look at their Roscoe 9 and see Christmas money. My kids are old enough to understand "you're getting less this year cause I bought another bike" j/k lol
Does that fox fork completely lock out? Or just get firm? Can anyone tell me? Thanks!
Feels like a complete lockout to me. When I turn the grip compression adjust knob fully clockwise, there is zero bounce in the fork.
What’s the size and actual weight? Thank you. Love the vids
Really great weight of 29.5lbs in a m/l
@@goodluckchrisclarkI thought I read it was like 28.5 pounds with tubeless tires. Your thoughts?
Can’t wait just ordered one
I have one new in the post from team cycles in Gateshead for £1995 which I think will turn out to be a scoop
You'll like it for sure
I had a good time watching the video. I plan to buy Roscoe 9, but is it difficult to climb?
This thing can climb! I was concerned it would feel heavy, but climbs sooo well 😊😊
30t chain ring with a 51t rear cog and wide, grippy tires = climbs like a mountain goat
Hey Chris, I’m 6’2 210 lbs, could I get away with a M/L for more playfulness or definitely go L? Thanks
I'm the same height and weight and have an XL. I'd say definitely get the L.
@@Channel-io1di Do you find the XL too big?
@boing7644 no, it's perfect. Dropper post is as low as it goes and when fully extended its the perfect height so I get max travel on it from as high as I need it to as low as it goes. I put a shorter stem and higher bars on it and it's awesome.
That's excellent. On my full sus XL giant trance x 3 I need to have the dropper up really high even though it has 170mm travel. Guess the sag in the suspension makes a difference.@@Channel-io1di
27.5 plus was where it was at with the Roscoe
IMHO I think the laufy or scout are the better option. The rosco needed and update though. It was dropping down the hardtail of the year contest.
Hi what one would you pick for 2000 the trek roscoe 9 vs whyte 909 or the laufy or scout ?
@@SSH01 The white frame looks dated compared to the new rosco.
I would go with the better spec between the others for the same price.
Agreed Laufy I just don't know much about, scout is top notch
I'm 55 .If you could own ONLY ONE bike for street riding and trails - could this do both ? Looking for a capable/reliable trail bike that is also comfortable enough to ride like a normal bike with the family.
My current ride is a modded '21 Marlin 7 (29'er.)
Thanks
Yes without a doubt!
are the brakes good enough or do they need to be changed?
Oh they are great!
Where is the store? R9 Price?
What is the model he keeps referencing ?? The “pheliex”??
Fuel EX 8
Fuel EX, sorry
Lol
At what dates does Trek launches new models of their bikes?
All throughout the year, especially with the current supply chain
should I expect to see a new trek Roscoe come out soon or should I just buy the Roscoe 9 now?@@goodluckchrisclark
What is the best bike out of this roscoe 9 or a whyte 909 ?
Heard great things about the Whyte
How much is the srp for this roscoe 9?
3500$
@@goodluckchrisclark Current price on Trek's website is $2499.
I put a suspension seatpost on mine and I rule these streets.
PNW component post? How is it?
The tires are 2.6
What if you are coming from a 2010 roscoe 3?
this would be a major upgrade!!!!
@@goodluckchrisclark thanks...Will keep this in mind as the options are offered for FS rigs to me!
Bro, welcome to 2023! Time for a bike upgrade. You and me both! Lol
@@painterabc123 selling all my part to buy that new bike!!! lol I loved my bike..guess I get to fall in love again...lol
This was good work, tnx
Probs gonna buy this like tmr
Is overpowered supposed to be overpriced?
True
I like the bike 100 percent, but the tires on the roscoe drag it down big time imo.
I don't hate the tires, depends what you need out of them they are a good all purpose tire set
Built like a tank.
But not heavy!
@@goodluckchrisclark that's true, it's not that heavy. It's a really nice bike.
29 x 2.6
To much money for hardtail imo as decent as it is. You can save a little more and get a decent suspension bike like fuel ex 8 or slash 8
A lot of people just don't want a full suspension for various reasons. When a person rides a hardtail it isn't necessarily because they couldn't afford a full suspension.
I am looking for a new bike. I have an XCaliber 9 which is an entry level XC bike. I am concerned about how heavy a full suspension bike will be at the $3k price point. I don’t want a 34 pound full suspension build. This is one of the bike selling points of the Roscoe 9 for me: Good components and under 30 pounds for $2800.
Most people who buy hardtails buy them because they like hardtails and not because they can't afford a full squish.
@@Durwood71 Hardtails is ok if you ride casual trails. But sorry when it comes to tougher trails there is absolutely no comparison. I switched from decent hardtail mtb to full suspension crabon frame slash. Its not even the same planet. I was hesitant buying it because of the price, but once i did. Never looked back again. I can see myself riding hardtail on very casual ride in say wood trails. But anything else, not even close. Slash 170 mm front and 160 mm in the back with superdeluxe suspension flies over roots, stone tough terrain, jumps and you feel actually safe. The bike gives you far more security and confidence. My back was getting killed on hardtail. I can see hardtails being used, but if you have money there is no question. Go for the suspension any day of the week.
@@painterabc123 Most low end suspension bikes are still killer bikes. I mean if you have 3k. I would just save a bit more and go for about 4k mark. I went with 9000 dollar trek slash, but its meant for my specific riding of enduro etc. If you are casual rider and dont need to much suspension. Imo 2023 trek fuel ex is the best shit you cant get. For 4k you can get fuel ex 8. Its aluminium frame with pretty good components. Can do just about any terrain aside from like hardcore enduro and downhill. Still can handle some enduro. This is the best price to bike ratio out there. If you want enduro take slash 8. Its a beast of a bike for 4k. No offense bnut spending 3000 dollar on a hardtail i just dumb as hell. Fuel ex 8 looks miles better and rides levels above roscoe and price difference is 1k. No matter what components roscoe has it cant even be put in the same league as fuel ex8 with. You get fox float x and fox 36 in the front and shimano xt stuff. Not much better you can get out there.
I don't know. I mean it's a beautiful bike indeed. But it's aluminum and for hardtails not all aluminum bikes are great. The mix match of parts and semi decent drive train and those brakes are trash, they are great if you riding xc or urban riding but if you trying to shred, rocky tech and steep shit, those breaks will not help you stop right away.
Have you ever used them because they work great. I have had zero issues at all with them.
@@andrewbrown8927 yes, well not a hardtail by trek but had a full sus by them. A trek slash to be exact but I loved it.. its just both hardtails I own are great but my steel one is incredible compared to my aluminum. The steel is a pipedream moxie (steel) and a ragley (steel) ass well. They are amazing and the aluminum one is very harsh when jumping and down any tech
@@dev_IL666 they calipers are shimano top line but the levers are cheaper. But wither way they work well. I was planning on upgrading the levers later. I wanted a ragley mmmbop but it was a pain to find a seller.