WHOA whoa whoa 3:20 did I hear this correctly?? Did you just say that's what causes aging? I heard you sayin it all fast and everything tryina slip that in there real quick all inconspicuous like. What you mean that's what causes aging? Are you for real? Because if you're for real well dang man you wait till now to tell us!
The Irony. China was the last country to enforce the CFC restrictions and were using it as a tool. Then finally said this year they stopped all chemical plants from making it. Everyone else did it years ago if not decades. Wion reported it. China was looking for a pat on the back. for dragging it's feet for so long.
.just like the "murder" hornets were going to destroy the agricultural industry in this country. it's all about keeping the masses in check and controlled properly so the ultra wealthy can rake in all the money.
I wish you would drop Masterworks as a sponsor. These are complex investments, not at all suited for many of the people being marketed to. When you buy into one of those artworks you own a piece of it until THEY decide to sell it. That might be at a gain, that might be at a loss, and it might be 10 years from now. In the interim there is a VERY limited secondary market. This is just another way rich people take money from the rest of us.
LOL This comment made my weekend!!! I remember my grandfather hitting me over the head because I threw an aerosol can into a fire to watch it explode (I was a bit of an arsonist at the time, lol)
@@Israel_Two_Bit Used to do this all the time once I was old enough to be away from parental guidance! Sealed butane cans went up real nice, but tended to flatten the fire...
First, CFC molecules are so heavy you can pour them from a bucket to another. No one came with a reasonable explanation on how they could reach 15 km high in the atmosphere. Second, UV splits O2 molecules in two, leading to Ozone creation. So basically UV is the fire and O3 is simply akin to smoke. Disappearance of the smoke due to CFC has no consequence on the fire - the breaking of O2 molecules. Finally, the Ozone hole over south pole just follows the weather - bigger hole in cold winter, smaller in hot summer, simply because Ozone creation is also linked to temperature. More sunlight = more UV = more O2 molecules broken down = more Ozone.
Before I replaced it last year, my 20 year old air conditioner used R22 (aka Freon). Although R22 is no longer produced or imported into the United States it’s still readily available. HVAC technicians have access to the existing recycled or recovered R22 to service older systems. Astonishingly, anyone can buy it online. It’s expensive but not illegal.
Well , we will all die and it will be your fault . The ozone layer was just a first try , give it its due , the climate scare took of only after the Berlin Wall fell . No more Cold War , welcome warm planet . No joke , check first IPCC report was 1990 .
Thank you for the update about the ozone. I remember the talk about how we were all doomed and we will need to live underground. It is good to know that the action taken years ago will give some hope. It reminds me of a "Frank and Ernest" comic strip from the 80's it pictures the earth and shows the ozone then shows Antarctica and the caption read UH-Ozone. I just hope that people will have the same mindset for our climate crisis as they did for the ozone in the 80's.
Just wanted to say I love the drive and zeal. Really enjoyed the video! I do got to say that I felt overwhelmed when you felt in your heart it was necessary to get people excited by adding some generalized modern dance music. Nothing but good intentions I seen. It just can make it hard to process the information you are wanting the whole world to know. Keep up the good work 🌻 Toodles
You're right. We heard for decades about the ozone depletion problrm but never got much of an update. It vanished from the news. In somewhat of the same vein: you never hear the upside of more CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants love CO2 & as CO2 increases so does vegetation as much as 15% recently (but i apologize that I dont know where this was observed & recorded). Our kids need to hear the bright side to know there is hope. Love your channel.❤
I love that you did a video about this and I totally agree that we should celebrate victories like that more. Also we should point out those science and policy wins more. Similar to this topic is the on of acid rain and catalytic converters in cars. Climate change deniers often say that the forests didn't die as science claimed back in the day (don't remember the year) but they completely ignore the fact that there were huge changes made in most of the combustion engines. It's very frustrating.
I was told by an Air Force vet (in 1979) that they used automotive refrigerants to cool sensitive equipment for south pole overflights. With no compressor on board, these aircraft used pressurized containers to supply refrigerant that was simply dumped overboard after expansion cooling. This was done at altitude over Antarctica. He told me when he saw the same "Mark IV" under-dash A/C unit in my 66 Mustang that they had put in the equipment bays on aircraft.
The long tail on recovery also has to do with many A/C systems went for years, refilled with remaining stock of the old refrigerant. I assume that stock is finally gone, AND once your old system is dead, you will have to upgrade
@@TwoBitDaVinci sure , acting quickly is so much more important than thinking . Like , why did we get our 7 best crop years during these 7 last awfully warm years ? There used to be hundred of millions starving on the planet 50 years ago , how come now hundreds of millions are obese ? Well , quite a few are still starving , but they have a zero carbon footprint so it is fine . really ?
Your science of the ozone layer is quite a bit off. First off the ozone in the ozone layer has a half life of about 3 days. If it stops being produced it will be gone in a couple weeks, no CFCs needed. The UVC in sunlight is what creates it, and in large amounts, enough to continuously replenish the natural decay. The amount of UVC hitting the atmosphere is enough to produce way more ozone than we see because the ozone produced in the upper atmosphere is enough to shield the lower layers, it is in equilibrium. The concentration of ozone is directly proportional to the intensity of sunlight, more sunlight, more ozone, less sunlight, less ozone. As a matter of fact the concentration of ozone above you decreases every night and goes back up in the morning. Since the polar regions have months without any sunlight, the ozone completely disappears over the poles every year, a real live "hole in the ozone layer" but it is completely natural. The south pole is worse because it gets much colder (no ocean under Antarctica) this causes microscopic ice crystals to form in the upper atmosphere which act as catalysts ripping ozone apart, thus the south polar "hole" takes a lot longer to recover in the spring, the air has to heat up enough for the ice to melt. This equilibrium of ozone and sunlight is a buffered system, you can increase the ozone decay rate (such as from CFCs) and it makes very little difference. The problem is that if the decay rate gets high enough to be greater than the rate sunlight can create it the system goes out of equilibrium and the entire ozone layer would be gone in a few weeks and there would be nothing we could do to stop it. The amazing thing here is that the response was swift and effective. And probably DID save the human race. Even though almost everyone had (and still does) a completely wrong idea of what is going on. BTW CFCs and cousins are completely unreactive with ozone, the problem is they are so stable they slowly float into the upper atmosphere where the UVC is much higher intensity and that rips the molecule apart freeing the flourine, which is a catalyst that destroys ozone. So we replace an incredibly stable molecule (otherwise known as "safe" compound, you can breath it, eat it and it doesn't harm you) with things that are slightly harmful but get destroyed in the lower atmosphere were the by products can't harm ozone.
wow great info, this is why i love the viewers of our channel such smart people. Great stuff thanks...and wow we sure dodged a major bullet on that one.
Last comment today... have you ever done, and if not, would you consider making a video that disproves flat earthers? Might be a cool video where you can go through the ways to prove the earth is round. Thanks!
Well , the earth can be round AND flat . Spherical would be more like it . But I believe it will be a two bit too difficult. If round earthers did not exist, fact checkers would invent them .
@@TwoBitDaVinci hey man , that was a joke . Like when you say nobody is speaking about the ozone layer . How about making a graph with human CO2 émissions and all the big meetings ( COP XX) where it was decided to do something ( usually there is a slight peak when these meetings start due to the jets of the attendees) . A lot of money spent to zero effect . Then you make an other graph with the same emissions and the investments in « renewable » energy . Don’t forget hydroelectric, so you start in 1950 . The more these investments grow , the more the carbon emissions grow . Much better correlation than planet temperature. Hey , don’t tell ME corrélation is not causation.
Another great video. Thanks. I wholly concur with the importance of emphasizing "good news," rather than solely exploiting our tendencies to focus on "bad news". Stories, Narratives, Content (whatever we want to call it) like this, refresh and invigorate.
According to Guardian, and also reported in Aus (ABC), 17,000 tonnes of CFC was released in ASIA in 2017-2019. Such a release would have produced some extreme hot spots in the world around 2019-2020. A depressing result since I spent most of 1991 taking CFCs out of factory sites. And I only gathered 21 tonnes - which was destroyed in a controlled manner.
This is uplifting and informative. I didn't know the UN took action and slowly but surely we're on the road to some recovery. Thanks Ricky, great way to start the weekend 🎉
@@TwoBitDaVinci I hope to hear more news like this in the future, Lord knows we need it. Thanks again, I shared it to my Twitter and tagged you as well.
Well , the point is the CFC patents had gone extinct . So Asian countries could use it for free . Do not dream … it was a disappointment for me too when I understood that . In 1990 or about .
@@thierrylandrieu7441 Asian countries also signed that Montreal agreement, and they also are obeying this, production of CFC's has been forbidden for a long time now. The good thing is there are alternatives that are cheaper and better.
Nice story about Ozone, what about Lighting and the role it plays in the Atmosphere. That would add to this picture about Ozone too. Can you make a video about that. Thanks,
The most reasonable explanation for the hole in the ozone... and it's location over Antarctica has to do with lich charged particles and the direction of the flux generated from the earths magnetic core..... if you build an electromagnets and charge it's coils electrons shift in the core corresponding to the directional movement of the electricity in the coil as well as perpendicularly to the direction of the windings... this creates a mass concentration of flux at the poles of the core. these flux concentrations are actually moving in a circuit... out one pole and into the other... Antarctica would be one or the other. one side particles are charged by the time they reach the other side but due to like charges the circle around the vortices instead of driving though the other like charged particle... and back to the core...
This video hit home. In the early 90’s, I worked New Zealand coaching alpine ski racing at Mount Hutt Ski Area. Four years, six months per year, May thru October, we’d spending 6 days a week above 6,000 feet above sea level, returning to the northern hemisphere in time for winter. By the second half of 90’s I’d had several skin lesions biopsied from my face, ultimately determined to be pre-cancerous. I always wondered what became of the ozone holes. Back then, it was common to go to work knowing there was no ozone layer above you. Despite using sunblock any exposed skin would get absolutely cooked. I can tell you first hand an ozone layer is a very good thing to have over your head! Thank you again for the update.
How do CFCs get into the upper atmosphere? CFCs are significantly heavier than O2 or N2 and should sink to the bottom of the atmosphere.
If as you stated free chlorine is the culprit, is not water vapor coming from the oceans a major source? The source of CFCs is the industrialized population which is mostly in the northern hemisphere. How much mixing is there between the northern and southern atmospheres?
Well , these are very good questions to which you will not get an answer . It is like asking why little red riding hood was so dumb as to talk to a wolf …
You should have a read of the life of Thomas Midgeley Jr. He was a chemical engineer and mechanical who discovered Freon, the first CFC. Before that, however, he discovered that adding lead to petrol would cure engine ‘knocking’. Ironically, in 1944, he was killed by another of his inventions, about which you will have to learn elsewhere.
The difference between ozone layer depletion and global warming is the former wasn't politicized and exaggerated in the way the latter has been. The problem of ozone depletion was met with a scientific response that resulted in little or no negative impact on society. The same can't be said of climate change when the timeline is exaggerated (10 years or we all die!!!), technical responses are attacked (No nuclear power!!!), and the real impacts on society are brushed aside (petroleum workers will just be retrained to program computers!). And that doesn't even consider the fact that the science surrounding ozone depletion was much more solid (as in it was incontrovertible, because we had clear evidence of its diminishment, etc) compared to climate change where there's still debate over rates of change, etc. Hopefully we can approach the climate with the same rationality that we did the ozone layer. But based on what's happened so far (Greta Thunberg, anyone) I'm not optimistic.
I have wondered about this for years now, and haven't found an answer yet. Maybe you can answer my question? Why do we have an ozone layer problem at all, when we have every major city in the world polluting the air with ozone from cars, and other sources? Is their some reason the ozone pollution doesn't reach the ozone layer, or some other reason? I'm open to a logical reason, but no where have I found an answer.
Cool Video Ricky! I work in the airline industry, and we are right in the middle of replacing our handheld Halon 1211 fire extinguishers for what is branded as HALOTRON fire extinguishers, which is a non Ozone depleting alternate fire extinguishing agent. The chemical formula is 2,2-Dichloro-1,1,1-trifluoroethane mixed with Tetrafluoromethane... Whatever that is LOL! According the Montreal Protocol, which was adopted by the ICAO unchanged, we will have to replace all handheld Halon 1211 fire extinguishers before the end of 2024. 3 extinguishers per Boeing 737, that are a lot of extinguishers to replace! But imagine the worldwide fleet of commercial aircraft, that are tens of thousands of extinguishers that need to be replaced the coming 2 years. We already have replaced all tiny fire extinguishers in the lavatories, these are to supress a fire in the waaste receptacle. For the fixed fire extinguishers in the engines and cargo holds we still have some time to replace them, in new aircraft they are already banned. Btw, did you know that Halon 1211 and Halon 1311 are already forbidden to produce for decades? Since 1995 or so Halon is no longer produced and all Halon in scrapped extinguishers is recovered and hold in Halon Banks at many places around the world so it can be reused in new produced extinguishers.. At some point these Halon Banks will start to destruct this halon into other chemicals, used in the chemical industry. The Airline industry has had an exception of using Halon, because there were no alternates that worked as good as Halon. but the coming years this will also come to an end and good enough alternate fire extinguishing agents have been developped.
That part frustrates me too, but that's why I watch your channel - the optimistic view on what CAN we do and how CAN we improve things always helps to make my day. I do believe we will move on from fossil fuels, my kids are already growing into a world where car charges in garage and there is nothing burning in the house at all, so a generation shift will for sure move things forward in fast pace.
Yes sure , it is burning in a power station elsewhere . Please check national electricity production. You can’t imagine the quantity of shale gas that the US sold to Europe this year .
It isn't just the oil and gas industry, nor is it just the money. Why can't people understand that some of us don't want to switch to EV's. For those of us that keep our vehicles 20+ years and more than a quarter-million miles, it makes more sense.
People blather about EVs being green without considering how their electricity is generated, much less the rape of the planet to get the precious metals for these cars. And I like being able to fill my tank in 2-3 minutes vs charging all night or longer.
Nice, Thanks. Another news that lifted my spirit was 'The Interceptor' it has the mission is to prevent the plastics to go into the sea. it is 100% solar powered. same message: We Can Save Our World. 🥰
Has anyone reading this live in Florida and get hit with random rolling blackouts today? 6/27/23? I no there is a solar flare problem growing larger this year & is expected to get even worse by the end of the year.
We could call lobby the legal corruption... I often though about that problem, but there is no real way to tackle it, except having politicians and campaign state-funded only. Because anyway, politicians take decisions that impact people lifes and works. And no one want to be unemployed or going elsewhere when they happy, so the whole problem is a scale problem : it's human to vote for someone which preserves your interests. But lobbies take it way too far...
The lobby issue does seem to have gone too far and been corrupted. The lobby idea seemed good when it started but it doesn't seem to be what it was intended for anymore.
I remember clearly during that time before the 1987 signing that the maIn source of the increase in the hole of the Ozone layer was launching those rockets and shuttles into space.
Q: Since Ozone molecules (O3) have a larger mass than Oxygen (O2) molecules, after they are formed in the stratosphere, why don't they sink to the bottom of the atmosphere?
I do indeed find it funny that there is very little talk about the ozone layer. We just experienced a UV index of 10 and it had been steadily increasing. If there is any "recovery" is surely isn't yet. Us humans may be able to stay out of the sun but what about the wildlife? One thing is certain, the world will recover, always does, but humans, not so likely.
The South Pole is at the center of circulation for a strong Low Pressure cell. Perhaps that is just closer to the surface, but tends to contradict some of these statements.
Because its not an issue and we fixed it years ago. Because we had COVID, have global warming, have Russian invasion of Ukraine, the biggest war in Europe after WW2, etc etc. Ozone layer is not an issue anymore, genocide of Ukrainians in Europe and rise of fascism in Russia - is.
Um... similar lobbying occurred with lead gas, lead paint, chemical weapons....just not always followed. Granted I didn't live through the previous drama, I do remember the doom gloom in the 90s.
Its like farming with cows. Omg the methane, hate on the cows everyone says. But we get more food out of less number of cows today than in previous decades. And the methane is only harmful in 10 years so the cows are helpful even today. But there is companys that do research and development of eco friendly tech to become even more eco friendly. If you keep the cow on pasture then she reduces co2 in the atmosphere ❤️ i love the cows ❤️
They also never mention that if you cut carbs out of your diet you tend not to be flatulent - so they complain about the cow methane and then increase their own methane production by many times by going vegan. I'd rather let the cow be flatulent on the farm and eat the meat!
We solved whale oil. We fixed the Ozone layer. I expect us to solve CO2, but I have no idea how costly it will be. Not sure if the sperm whale population has fully recovered yet either, but it's good to know the Ozone layer's on track.
Sure using wood for things isn't so bad but I really don't see paper as being sustainable. What about all the energy and waste around bleaching and processing. Paper should be made from other sources and we should stop using it for print media etc. Given they are mostly irrelevant now.
It's not entirely fair, though to be honest even I have little sympathy for them, to lay the blame on all the companies that have a profit to lose by going green. They're the easy villains. It's easy for us to say, but one of the reasons why they're going to lose out on any potential profit is how many people can even afford to make the switch. It's easy for those of us that can afford and positioned to adopt new greener tech, and we can think that the government can just subsidize everyone else, but that kind of thinking has its own costs, and it can be arguably worse for everyone for all the side effects, both political and economic, that tend to come along with that. Most of us are going to keep with the cars we already have until it's dead, even if a green alternative was cheaper in every measure, and that's because we have a tendency to not change things unless we absolutely have to. Even small businesses will behave the same. Big companies and investors know this behavior all too well, which is one reason why it's so hard for them to just pivot and jump on the bandwagons that we casual observers are so easily convinced about. Life is too busy for change, but it does happen eventually, and that's where we need to be prepared. The best we can hope for is not to constantly criticize these people (though some is warranted) but to make sure they know what options they have to save (in money or other resources) where they can when they can.
so how does the mining of battery essential components for electric vehicles and fuel to power charging stations affect the planet? or do we just charge ahead not knowing?
Most research papers show it generates less Co2 over its life span than another ICE cars. It has a higher unfront cost ( depending on the method of production ), but that might be changing soon with some going sodium. The other thing is Li is recyclable - so once it comes out of the earth - it can go back into another battery - as well with Sodium batteries. Power needed to charge said batteries can come from many different sources of power wind, solar, hydro, but even if it comes from a coal plant, the gas can be capture far easier than say from a car allowing for a cleaner burn. Also, moving away from a fuel base encomeny means we dont have to waste gas to transport gas around the country and that also means we don't need large cooling tanks under gas stations that also requires power to keep all that fuel at a cool temperature. Future tech also wont require as many rare earth metals such as magnets lowering the need even for those in electric cars. Moving over to heart/cool pumps also reduces the need for some of those metals as well. Fun fact, a lot of the cost of a battery is just active carbon - if we replace that carbon with another element we could see batteries come down by 50% Sodium+other element that it wouldnt better even for that "upfront" cost because for every battery that can hit the grid - that translates to less power generation needed from burning peaker plants and thus over all you wouldnt have any or so lower of a foot print that it would be a "real crime" to be driving an ICE car in 30-50 more years from now.
This is a great story and I was reminded of it when Greta Thunberg was saying "how dare you". I don't mean to bash a teenager - frankly the people who put her up to it should be ashamed of themselves - but young people need to learn a thing or two before they start criticizing others, especially their elders. The waterways around where I live were very polluted in the 60s and 70s, but now they are clean and kids are swimming in them, and I'm talking about the immediate vicinity of a major city. You're right, there are some real positive accomplishments that we can take pride in as we apply ourselves to modern problems.
You played right into their hands. The Greta persona was meticulously manufactured for that reason: here's a puppet to push the message we want and you're a monster if you criticize her because "she's only a child".
It's the way of the world. GOD forgives upon repentance. Worldliness marks you for Life upon an error, despite a continuum of good to which it is oblivious. $$ is the god of this world, bad news sells, failures require remedial work contracts etc
Politicians should stay out of science until they get the necessary education and experience in fields that they know absolutely noting about. Scientists should be allowed to do research and try to prove hypothesis even if it is opposing. They should not be penalized or "canceled or threatened" by society but proven right or wrong by people in their fields of study.
The real concern is how the scientific community is so often manipulated by government these days. We're all aware of the "corporate study", but when universities and peer reviewed magazines start pushing a narrative rather than just the facts and raw science then we're really in trouble.
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WHOA whoa whoa 3:20 did I hear this correctly?? Did you just say that's what causes aging? I heard you sayin it all fast and everything tryina slip that in there real quick all inconspicuous like.
What you mean that's what causes aging? Are you for real?
Because if you're for real well dang man you wait till now to tell us!
The Irony. China was the last country to enforce the CFC restrictions and were using it as a tool. Then finally said this year they stopped all chemical plants from making it. Everyone else did it years ago if not decades.
Wion reported it. China was looking for a pat on the back. for dragging it's feet for so long.
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Thank you for covering this, I agree, it is very frustrating that the media only covers sensational stories. Keep up the great work!
.just like the "murder" hornets were going to destroy the agricultural industry in this country. it's all about keeping the masses in check and controlled properly so the ultra wealthy can rake in all the money.
I wish you would drop Masterworks as a sponsor. These are complex investments, not at all suited for many of the people being marketed to. When you buy into one of those artworks you own a piece of it until THEY decide to sell it. That might be at a gain, that might be at a loss, and it might be 10 years from now. In the interim there is a VERY limited secondary market. This is just another way rich people take money from the rest of us.
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He did a segway into that commercial that was super smooth. 😅
You know you're old when you remember the Ozone layer
haha ... true!
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LOL This comment made my weekend!!! I remember my grandfather hitting me over the head because I threw an aerosol can into a fire to watch it explode (I was a bit of an arsonist at the time, lol)
@@Israel_Two_Bit Used to do this all the time once I was old enough to be away from parental guidance! Sealed butane cans went up real nice, but tended to flatten the fire...
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First, CFC molecules are so heavy you can pour them from a bucket to another. No one came with a reasonable explanation on how they could reach 15 km high in the atmosphere. Second, UV splits O2 molecules in two, leading to Ozone creation. So basically UV is the fire and O3 is simply akin to smoke. Disappearance of the smoke due to CFC has no consequence on the fire - the breaking of O2 molecules. Finally, the Ozone hole over south pole just follows the weather - bigger hole in cold winter, smaller in hot summer, simply because Ozone creation is also linked to temperature. More sunlight = more UV = more O2 molecules broken down = more Ozone.
Before I replaced it last year, my 20 year old air conditioner used R22 (aka Freon). Although R22 is no longer produced or imported into the United States it’s still readily available. HVAC technicians have access to the existing recycled or recovered R22 to service older systems. Astonishingly, anyone can buy it online. It’s expensive but not illegal.
Well , we will all die and it will be your fault . The ozone layer was just a first try , give it its due , the climate scare took of only after the Berlin Wall fell . No more Cold War , welcome warm planet . No joke , check first IPCC report was 1990 .
Thank you for the update about the ozone. I remember the talk about how we were all doomed and we will need to live underground. It is good to know that the action taken years ago will give some hope. It reminds me of a "Frank and Ernest" comic strip from the 80's it pictures the earth and shows the ozone then shows Antarctica and the caption read UH-Ozone. I just hope that people will have the same mindset for our climate crisis as they did for the ozone in the 80's.
Thanks for reminding us of an example of the countries of the world working together to fix a common problem.
Glad you covered this. Never realized all those things happening. 😊great info thanks
Thanks Ricky, I was wondering about the ozone issue a while back and now I know!
me too :)
Just Love this video. Great to get an updated. Keep up the good work 😁
so glad to hear it, let me know if you have other ideas for future videos!
The final message could have been longer. Optimism is out of fashion, but it is critical!
Top ten video for you, Mr. Davinci 😃
Just wanted to say I love the drive and zeal. Really enjoyed the video!
I do got to say that I felt overwhelmed when you felt in your heart it was necessary to get people excited by adding some generalized modern dance music. Nothing but good intentions I seen. It just can make it hard to process the information you are wanting the whole world to know.
Keep up the good work 🌻
Toodles
You're right. We heard for decades about the ozone depletion problrm but never got much of an update. It vanished from the news. In somewhat of the same vein: you never hear the upside of more CO2 in the atmosphere. Plants love CO2 & as CO2 increases so does vegetation as much as 15% recently (but i apologize that I dont know where this was observed & recorded). Our kids need to hear the bright side to know there is hope. Love your channel.❤
I love that you did a video about this and I totally agree that we should celebrate victories like that more. Also we should point out those science and policy wins more. Similar to this topic is the on of acid rain and catalytic converters in cars. Climate change deniers often say that the forests didn't die as science claimed back in the day (don't remember the year) but they completely ignore the fact that there were huge changes made in most of the combustion engines.
It's very frustrating.
I have literally asked myself this question just a week ago. What happened to ozone layer? and why aren't we just produce ozone to supplement
it's amazing how the Earth can heal...
I was told by an Air Force vet (in 1979) that they used automotive refrigerants to cool sensitive equipment for south pole overflights. With no compressor on board, these aircraft used pressurized containers to supply refrigerant that was simply dumped overboard after expansion cooling. This was done at altitude over Antarctica. He told me when he saw the same "Mark IV" under-dash A/C unit in my 66 Mustang that they had put in the equipment bays on aircraft.
Wow wild story....
The long tail on recovery also has to do with many A/C systems went for years, refilled with remaining stock of the old refrigerant. I assume that stock is finally gone, AND once your old system is dead, you will have to upgrade
ah yah good point... there's usually a latent effect, all the more reason to act quickly
@@TwoBitDaVinci sure , acting quickly is so much more important than thinking . Like , why did we get our 7 best crop years during these 7 last awfully warm years ? There used to be hundred of millions starving on the planet 50 years ago , how come now hundreds of millions are obese ? Well , quite a few are still starving , but they have a zero carbon footprint so it is fine . really ?
Your science of the ozone layer is quite a bit off. First off the ozone in the ozone layer has a half life of about 3 days. If it stops being produced it will be gone in a couple weeks, no CFCs needed. The UVC in sunlight is what creates it, and in large amounts, enough to continuously replenish the natural decay. The amount of UVC hitting the atmosphere is enough to produce way more ozone than we see because the ozone produced in the upper atmosphere is enough to shield the lower layers, it is in equilibrium. The concentration of ozone is directly proportional to the intensity of sunlight, more sunlight, more ozone, less sunlight, less ozone. As a matter of fact the concentration of ozone above you decreases every night and goes back up in the morning. Since the polar regions have months without any sunlight, the ozone completely disappears over the poles every year, a real live "hole in the ozone layer" but it is completely natural. The south pole is worse because it gets much colder (no ocean under Antarctica) this causes microscopic ice crystals to form in the upper atmosphere which act as catalysts ripping ozone apart, thus the south polar "hole" takes a lot longer to recover in the spring, the air has to heat up enough for the ice to melt. This equilibrium of ozone and sunlight is a buffered system, you can increase the ozone decay rate (such as from CFCs) and it makes very little difference. The problem is that if the decay rate gets high enough to be greater than the rate sunlight can create it the system goes out of equilibrium and the entire ozone layer would be gone in a few weeks and there would be nothing we could do to stop it. The amazing thing here is that the response was swift and effective. And probably DID save the human race. Even though almost everyone had (and still does) a completely wrong idea of what is going on. BTW CFCs and cousins are completely unreactive with ozone, the problem is they are so stable they slowly float into the upper atmosphere where the UVC is much higher intensity and that rips the molecule apart freeing the flourine, which is a catalyst that destroys ozone. So we replace an incredibly stable molecule (otherwise known as "safe" compound, you can breath it, eat it and it doesn't harm you) with things that are slightly harmful but get destroyed in the lower atmosphere were the by products can't harm ozone.
wow great info, this is why i love the viewers of our channel such smart people. Great stuff thanks...and wow we sure dodged a major bullet on that one.
Last comment today... have you ever done, and if not, would you consider making a video that disproves flat earthers?
Might be a cool video where you can go through the ways to prove the earth is round.
Thanks!
I like this idea 👍🏻
I like that idea.
More and more PPL are getting sucked in. 😒
Well , the earth can be round AND flat . Spherical would be more like it . But I believe it will be a two bit too difficult. If round earthers did not exist, fact checkers would invent them .
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@@TwoBitDaVinci hey man , that was a joke . Like when you say nobody is speaking about the ozone layer .
How about making a graph with human CO2 émissions and all the big meetings ( COP XX) where it was decided to do something ( usually there is a slight peak when these meetings start due to the jets of the attendees) . A lot of money spent to zero effect .
Then you make an other graph with the same emissions and the investments in « renewable » energy . Don’t forget hydroelectric, so you start in 1950 . The more these investments grow , the more the carbon emissions grow . Much better correlation than planet temperature. Hey , don’t tell ME corrélation is not causation.
Another great video. Thanks. I wholly concur with the importance of emphasizing "good news," rather than solely exploiting our tendencies to focus on "bad news". Stories, Narratives, Content (whatever we want to call it) like this, refresh and invigorate.
According to Guardian, and also reported in Aus (ABC), 17,000 tonnes of CFC was released in ASIA in 2017-2019.
Such a release would have produced some extreme hot spots in the world around 2019-2020.
A depressing result since I spent most of 1991 taking CFCs out of factory sites. And I only gathered 21 tonnes - which was destroyed in a controlled manner.
This is uplifting and informative. I didn't know the UN took action and slowly but surely we're on the road to some recovery. Thanks Ricky, great way to start the weekend 🎉
i know, it's amazing how good news gets skipped, in our obsession with doom and gloom!
@@TwoBitDaVinci I hope to hear more news like this in the future, Lord knows we need it. Thanks again, I shared it to my Twitter and tagged you as well.
Nice... I need uplifting news too, thanks
Well , the point is the CFC patents had gone extinct . So Asian countries could use it for free . Do not dream … it was a disappointment for me too when I understood that . In 1990 or about .
@@thierrylandrieu7441 Asian countries also signed that Montreal agreement, and they also are obeying this, production of CFC's has been forbidden for a long time now. The good thing is there are alternatives that are cheaper and better.
Nice story about Ozone, what about Lighting and the role it plays in the Atmosphere. That would add to this picture about Ozone too. Can you make a video about that. Thanks,
good idea sounds good i can look into it
The most reasonable explanation for the hole in the ozone... and it's location over Antarctica has to do with lich charged particles and the direction of the flux generated from the earths magnetic core..... if you build an electromagnets and charge it's coils electrons shift in the core corresponding to the directional movement of the electricity in the coil as well as perpendicularly to the direction of the windings... this creates a mass concentration of flux at the poles of the core. these flux concentrations are actually moving in a circuit... out one pole and into the other... Antarctica would be one or the other. one side particles are charged by the time they reach the other side but due to like charges the circle around the vortices instead of driving though the other like charged particle... and back to the core...
THANKS SO MUCH FOR HELPING US CELEBRATE!!!;)
Thanks for watching and your right it is fun to celebrate the few wins we have.
The science is really cool
it's an on going process
This video hit home. In the early 90’s, I worked New Zealand coaching alpine ski racing at Mount Hutt Ski Area. Four years, six months per year, May thru October, we’d spending 6 days a week above 6,000 feet above sea level, returning to the northern hemisphere in time for winter. By the second half of 90’s I’d had several skin lesions biopsied from my face, ultimately determined to be pre-cancerous.
I always wondered what became of the ozone holes. Back then, it was common to go to work knowing there was no ozone layer above you. Despite using sunblock any exposed skin would get absolutely cooked. I can tell you first hand an ozone layer is a very good thing to have over your head!
Thank you again for the update.
wow Mya Thanks for letting us know about your experience. hope you are doing better.
I was wondering about that myself, love the positivity!
Third video in and I'm in love! This very topic has been on my mind! This and Acid Rain.!
How do CFCs get into the upper atmosphere? CFCs are significantly heavier than O2 or N2 and should sink to the bottom of the atmosphere.
If as you stated free chlorine is the culprit, is not water vapor coming from the oceans a major source?
The source of CFCs is the industrialized population which is mostly in the northern hemisphere. How much mixing is there between the northern and southern atmospheres?
Well , these are very good questions to which you will not get an answer . It is like asking why little red riding hood was so dumb as to talk to a wolf …
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If only everything worked as nicely as the Montreal Protocol.
You should have a read of the life of Thomas Midgeley Jr. He was a chemical engineer and mechanical who discovered Freon, the first CFC. Before that, however, he discovered that adding lead to petrol would cure engine ‘knocking’. Ironically, in 1944, he was killed by another of his inventions, about which you will have to learn elsewhere.
The difference between ozone layer depletion and global warming is the former wasn't politicized and exaggerated in the way the latter has been.
The problem of ozone depletion was met with a scientific response that resulted in little or no negative impact on society. The same can't be said of climate change when the timeline is exaggerated (10 years or we all die!!!), technical responses are attacked (No nuclear power!!!), and the real impacts on society are brushed aside (petroleum workers will just be retrained to program computers!).
And that doesn't even consider the fact that the science surrounding ozone depletion was much more solid (as in it was incontrovertible, because we had clear evidence of its diminishment, etc) compared to climate change where there's still debate over rates of change, etc.
Hopefully we can approach the climate with the same rationality that we did the ozone layer. But based on what's happened so far (Greta Thunberg, anyone) I'm not optimistic.
I have wondered about this for years now, and haven't found an answer yet. Maybe you can answer my question?
Why do we have an ozone layer problem at all, when we have every major city in the world polluting the air with ozone from cars, and other sources?
Is their some reason the ozone pollution doesn't reach the ozone layer, or some other reason?
I'm open to a logical reason, but no where have I found an answer.
Cool Video Ricky!
I work in the airline industry, and we are right in the middle of replacing our handheld Halon 1211 fire extinguishers for what is branded as HALOTRON fire extinguishers, which is a non Ozone depleting alternate fire extinguishing agent. The chemical formula is 2,2-Dichloro-1,1,1-trifluoroethane mixed with Tetrafluoromethane... Whatever that is LOL! According the Montreal Protocol, which was adopted by the ICAO unchanged, we will have to replace all handheld Halon 1211 fire extinguishers before the end of 2024. 3 extinguishers per Boeing 737, that are a lot of extinguishers to replace! But imagine the worldwide fleet of commercial aircraft, that are tens of thousands of extinguishers that need to be replaced the coming 2 years.
We already have replaced all tiny fire extinguishers in the lavatories, these are to supress a fire in the waaste receptacle.
For the fixed fire extinguishers in the engines and cargo holds we still have some time to replace them, in new aircraft they are already banned.
Btw, did you know that Halon 1211 and Halon 1311 are already forbidden to produce for decades? Since 1995 or so Halon is no longer produced and all Halon in scrapped extinguishers is recovered and hold in Halon Banks at many places around the world so it can be reused in new produced extinguishers.. At some point these Halon Banks will start to destruct this halon into other chemicals, used in the chemical industry.
The Airline industry has had an exception of using Halon, because there were no alternates that worked as good as Halon. but the coming years this will also come to an end and good enough alternate fire extinguishing agents have been developped.
That part frustrates me too, but that's why I watch your channel - the optimistic view on what CAN we do and how CAN we improve things always helps to make my day. I do believe we will move on from fossil fuels, my kids are already growing into a world where car charges in garage and there is nothing burning in the house at all, so a generation shift will for sure move things forward in fast pace.
Yes sure , it is burning in a power station elsewhere . Please check national electricity production. You can’t imagine the quantity of shale gas that the US sold to Europe this year .
100% agree.
. 3:01 that chart makes this Video a keeper. 👍👌👍
thanks
It isn't just the oil and gas industry, nor is it just the money. Why can't people understand that some of us don't want to switch to EV's. For those of us that keep our vehicles 20+ years and more than a quarter-million miles, it makes more sense.
People blather about EVs being green without considering how their electricity is generated, much less the rape of the planet to get the precious metals for these cars. And I like being able to fill my tank in 2-3 minutes vs charging all night or longer.
Thank you.
Barbara Billingsley?
We should launch all the politicians to Uranus.
Speaking from Uranus : we do not agree .
great info 2040-60 . can you address mirror tech that may be used to reflect light/heat in a decaying orbit? or is that non sense
It's amazing what can be accomplished when you are looking for a solution to a *specific* problem.
it truly is... I think we all have a lot more cause for optimism than we realize!
The Wonderful Wizard of Ozone
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Ozone has a quick natural half-life
Nice, Thanks. Another news that lifted my spirit was 'The Interceptor' it has the mission is to prevent the plastics to go into the sea. it is 100% solar powered. same message: We Can Save Our World. 🥰
I just wonder what the world could do before we arrived . The planet is really lucky we came and saved it .
What they say about old age...it is wisdom!
Very good video!
Has anyone reading this live in Florida and get hit with random rolling blackouts today? 6/27/23? I no there is a solar flare problem growing larger this year & is expected to get even worse by the end of the year.
3:00 Crazy to think that War World II pilots could be flying at the edges of the Ozone layer, *(15,100M, Ta 152.)*
We could call lobby the legal corruption...
I often though about that problem, but there is no real way to tackle it, except having politicians and campaign state-funded only. Because anyway, politicians take decisions that impact people lifes and works. And no one want to be unemployed or going elsewhere when they happy, so the whole problem is a scale problem : it's human to vote for someone which preserves your interests. But lobbies take it way too far...
The lobby issue does seem to have gone too far and been corrupted. The lobby idea seemed good when it started but it doesn't seem to be what it was intended for anymore.
😊 really 😎👍...i forgot it..well explained...if the world 🌎 work's together we can make a change...the sky is not the Limit 🖖
Monoculture tree farms are not forests.
I remember clearly during that time before the 1987 signing that the maIn source of the increase in the hole of the Ozone layer was launching those rockets and shuttles into space.
Q: Since Ozone molecules (O3) have a larger mass than Oxygen (O2) molecules, after they are formed in the stratosphere, why don't they sink to the bottom of the atmosphere?
Love that dr stone reference at the end
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I do indeed find it funny that there is very little talk about the ozone layer. We just experienced a UV index of 10 and it had been steadily increasing. If there is any "recovery" is surely isn't yet. Us humans may be able to stay out of the sun but what about the wildlife? One thing is certain, the world will recover, always does, but humans, not so likely.
You should do a video on Thomas Midgely. CFCs and leaded gas.
The South Pole is at the center of circulation for a strong Low Pressure cell. Perhaps that is just closer to the surface, but tends to contradict some of these statements.
But did they add Bromine whih depletes o3 too of which our small islands are the 6th biggest users for forestry log bug control
Because its not an issue and we fixed it years ago. Because we had COVID, have global warming, have Russian invasion of Ukraine, the biggest war in Europe after WW2, etc etc. Ozone layer is not an issue anymore, genocide of Ukrainians in Europe and rise of fascism in Russia - is.
Um... similar lobbying occurred with lead gas, lead paint, chemical weapons....just not always followed. Granted I didn't live through the previous drama, I do remember the doom gloom in the 90s.
I reckon Aliens duct taped that ole hole 😊
So why are we planning to colonize mars ? Will terraforming create a magnetosphere?
maybe venus is a better option?
It's not a hole anymore. It's a Whole.
I seen the Dr. Stone reference near the end of the video...
Oh yeah I grew up hearing about that.
It's not if refrigerant systems leak it's when, they all eventually leak
It's not the first or only time we have come together as a planet to solve a problem with science. We did the same with using the small pox vaccine.
Its like farming with cows. Omg the methane, hate on the cows everyone says.
But we get more food out of less number of cows today than in previous decades. And the methane is only harmful in 10 years so the cows are helpful even today. But there is companys that do research and development of eco friendly tech to become even more eco friendly. If you keep the cow on pasture then she reduces co2 in the atmosphere ❤️ i love the cows ❤️
They also never mention that if you cut carbs out of your diet you tend not to be flatulent - so they complain about the cow methane and then increase their own methane production by many times by going vegan. I'd rather let the cow be flatulent on the farm and eat the meat!
Change China and India FIRST and then, these problems are solved. America is NOT the problem!
We solved whale oil. We fixed the Ozone layer. I expect us to solve CO2, but I have no idea how costly it will be. Not sure if the sperm whale population has fully recovered yet either, but it's good to know the Ozone layer's on track.
so... we need to Make Doctor Stone the canon event of the world kk
6:27 not ture, china japan and other places ignore the treaty
Make a video on quantum generator patent..
which one?
@@TwoBitDaVinci quantum generator patent..
Not sure of any other planets where the magnetosphere protects the living organisms 🤷🤔
Is that a picture of a "round earth?" Is that a real photo?
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@@icosthop9998 I am serious. That is how earth looks from my education. Was I lied to or is it accurate?
@Question Everything 🤣🤣🤣
You are cracking me up 😅
I found this in the emoji file 🌍 🌎 🌏
I don't think they will lie to us, they can get sued $💲$
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You think that Ozone is bad wait til you see what is coming, ozone would be a walk in the park.
Do tell
ok so whats coming?
@@TwoBitDaVinci You don't want to here it not on this forum.
Uva doesnt cause aging, if that was true people in ufa sealed bunkers would still be alive
Sure using wood for things isn't so bad but I really don't see paper as being sustainable. What about all the energy and waste around bleaching and processing. Paper should be made from other sources and we should stop using it for print media etc. Given they are mostly irrelevant now.
What the heck is the ozone layer??
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you have a great presentation skill set. I would love to help develop content for your channel....
join our discord.
@@TwoBitDaVinci I can't find it
Wigington says c is almost gone!
Porque, a camada de ozônio, nunca existiu. Isto só foi inventado, porque a patente do freon estava no fim.
First sky made different oxygen
It's not entirely fair, though to be honest even I have little sympathy for them, to lay the blame on all the companies that have a profit to lose by going green. They're the easy villains. It's easy for us to say, but one of the reasons why they're going to lose out on any potential profit is how many people can even afford to make the switch. It's easy for those of us that can afford and positioned to adopt new greener tech, and we can think that the government can just subsidize everyone else, but that kind of thinking has its own costs, and it can be arguably worse for everyone for all the side effects, both political and economic, that tend to come along with that. Most of us are going to keep with the cars we already have until it's dead, even if a green alternative was cheaper in every measure, and that's because we have a tendency to not change things unless we absolutely have to. Even small businesses will behave the same. Big companies and investors know this behavior all too well, which is one reason why it's so hard for them to just pivot and jump on the bandwagons that we casual observers are so easily convinced about.
Life is too busy for change, but it does happen eventually, and that's where we need to be prepared. The best we can hope for is not to constantly criticize these people (though some is warranted) but to make sure they know what options they have to save (in money or other resources) where they can when they can.
We're all made of carbon. Please don't remove us.
so how does the mining of battery essential components for electric vehicles and fuel to power charging stations affect the planet? or do we just charge ahead not knowing?
Most research papers show it generates less Co2 over its life span than another ICE cars. It has a higher unfront cost ( depending on the method of production ), but that might be changing soon with some going sodium. The other thing is Li is recyclable - so once it comes out of the earth - it can go back into another battery - as well with Sodium batteries. Power needed to charge said batteries can come from many different sources of power wind, solar, hydro, but even if it comes from a coal plant, the gas can be capture far easier than say from a car allowing for a cleaner burn. Also, moving away from a fuel base encomeny means we dont have to waste gas to transport gas around the country and that also means we don't need large cooling tanks under gas stations that also requires power to keep all that fuel at a cool temperature. Future tech also wont require as many rare earth metals such as magnets lowering the need even for those in electric cars. Moving over to heart/cool pumps also reduces the need for some of those metals as well. Fun fact, a lot of the cost of a battery is just active carbon - if we replace that carbon with another element we could see batteries come down by 50% Sodium+other element that it wouldnt better even for that "upfront" cost because for every battery that can hit the grid - that translates to less power generation needed from burning peaker plants and thus over all you wouldnt have any or so lower of a foot print that it would be a "real crime" to be driving an ICE car in 30-50 more years from now.
@@adr2t You're full of shit to say "even if it comes from coal" because almost all of it comes from coal.
But batteries are not the answer to Decarbonisation.
This is a great story and I was reminded of it when Greta Thunberg was saying "how dare you". I don't mean to bash a teenager - frankly the people who put her up to it should be ashamed of themselves - but young people need to learn a thing or two before they start criticizing others, especially their elders. The waterways around where I live were very polluted in the 60s and 70s, but now they are clean and kids are swimming in them, and I'm talking about the immediate vicinity of a major city. You're right, there are some real positive accomplishments that we can take pride in as we apply ourselves to modern problems.
You played right into their hands. The Greta persona was meticulously manufactured for that reason: here's a puppet to push the message we want and you're a monster if you criticize her because "she's only a child".
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So where did the UN go off the rails from doing good to being against humanity?
From the end of the Cold War . Change of equilibrium . First to suffer were Arab countries who did not abide .
@@thierrylandrieu7441 Thanks for the response.
It's the way of the world.
GOD forgives upon repentance.
Worldliness marks you for Life upon an error, despite a continuum of good to which it is oblivious.
$$ is the god of this world, bad news sells, failures require remedial work contracts etc
Politicians should stay out of science until they get the necessary education and experience in fields that they know absolutely noting about. Scientists should be allowed to do research and try to prove hypothesis even if it is opposing. They should not be penalized or "canceled or threatened" by society but proven right or wrong by people in their fields of study.
The real concern is how the scientific community is so often manipulated by government these days. We're all aware of the "corporate study", but when universities and peer reviewed magazines start pushing a narrative rather than just the facts and raw science then we're really in trouble.
It's fairly simplistic to only point out fluorine as culpable for depletion of stratospheric ozone. You're better than that...
God is the answer
I'm using roll-on deodorant. I fixed the problem, right?
pure gold
lol ... 100% 😆
NWO propaganda
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I agree. Collective stupidity can become collective brilliance (occasionally). Thanks for the party hat.