I keep noticing that none of the people who say she should be on the team (Stephen A. Smith, Gilbert Arenas, etc.) are making a basketball argument, all they're talking about is marketing (a.k.a. popularity contest).
These men are weak ambassadors for the power structure who are operating under agendas to achieve something for themselves like LeBron cape crusading because he wants the Las Vegas expansion franchise that dude is unbelievable and trust me he gonna get undermined the minute he doesn't deliver on his mission and he won't succeed. Quite as it's kept he is no favorite of the power establishment he is a tool that's it.
Why would they need to make a basketball argument when Team USA will win gold regardless of whether or not Clark is on the team? But how did all of those previous gold medals help to grow the popularity of those individual players or the WNBA as a whole?
Some people have a gravitational pull. Tiger dominated the news well before he was the best player in the world. He had that it factor. It is what it is
It's demonic you ask me this is typical of idol worshipping definitely cult worship and actually could get someone killed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Olympic team is subject to death threats and terrorism These people have really gone off the rails and at the worst time. The next five years are going to see changes in this nation that you might not want to live through it's gonna be hell on earth and right here in the USA.
@@KemperFi13 SHIT GOLF IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST SPORTS IN THE WORLD. IT'S ALL INDIVIDUAL. CLARK IS NOT A GENERATIONAL TALENT. THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS PAST, FUTURE AND PRESENT THAT DESERVE THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. SO. THIS IS PURE POLITICAL. THEY WOULDN'T LET TIGER BREAK A WHITE MAN'S RECORD AND ESSENTIALLY OWN A SPORT THAT HAS SO CALLED BEEN DOMINATED BY A WHITE FIGURE. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT POLITICS. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON LIE AFTER LIE. SO IT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AND SHAPE WHAT THE NEXT 400+ YEARS WILL LOOK LIKE.
You said it all bro!! She is simply not ready. Others are way more deserving. She needs to get better. She’s not even a champion. The media has made this conversation hella weird.
@@Mandownsports Hmmm, are all the 3's and 4's great players of the league rn from aboard? 😳 I honestly don't know, American nationals don't have a singular threat to differentiate them easily 😅😂
@@Mandownsports that’s exactly the reason why he is on the team. He, KD, and Steph are still the most marketable players in the NBA the proof is playoff viewership declines when they are not playing.
I doubt DT is on there for popularity now you gonna say it's Okay to put old man Brin on the team but you want DT off the team for a rookie unbelievable 😔
First off you can't snub someone who didn't try out. Tbh i don't think Caitlin needs to play in this Olympics. I don't think her legs will be under her by time the Olympics comes around. By the time the Olympics get here Clark would have played 79 games since November between college and Wnba with little to no break. Clark is a jump shooter and she needs her legs. Same thing happened to Kobe went from playing 20 something games to 80 games and he starting shooting air balls because his legs wasn't used to that many games. If Caitlin get to Paris and start shooting air balls because her legs are tired how is that good for her brand or the wnba brand?
@@Mandownsportsfrom a basketball point I agree, but there isn't any doubt more people would watch it if she was. Did the 92 team need Jordan bird and Magic two of which, from a basketball point was far past their prime. They didn't need them to win, but not as many people would have watched if they were not.
The women are going to win that's a given, with or without but how many watches them do it without her, from a business point bad mistake, just like leaving Jordan bird or magic, from a PR marketing point.
@@coxfordGamer stop mentioning MJ, Bird and Magic. They were the best players on the team and the leaders and they were popular. Caitlin is JUST POPULAR
Caitlyn Clark might be the female version of Tim Tebow, a legendary, record setting ALL TIME GREAT college player who needs the team to SACRIFICE the success of her exceptional teammates so that she can appear to be the GREAT PLAYER she was when she was competing against non professionals in college.
Their idiotic perspective shows their complete lack of regard for the professionalism of the athletes and for the viability of the sport itself. They are essentially crapping on women’s college basketball.
I agree because i said the same thing what if they put her on the team and she play bad how is that going to grow the game. What they wanna say is how dare you leave Caitlin off team usa when we want her to recognized globally.
As a-Blackman… Veteran; not that my master status should matter- who served more than 20-years the U.S. Air Force I won’t be watching Team USA Women compete for the gold medal in basketball because if we are truly talking individuals on the women’s basketball team representing US then Brittney Griner definitely shouldn’t be on team USA with her history of not standing up during the playing of our National Anthem to show respect for the US Flag which is proudly displayed during the Olympics! As for earning a spot on the women’s Olympics roster Caitlin Clark’s résumé for the WNBAs 2024 is better than Diana Taurasi’s! So the Olympics selection committee and all they WOKE women alleged sports analysts with their biased attitude toward Caitlin Clark need to stop all the excuses… The LGBTQ and these entitled black WNBA led players need to stop this nonsense and their jealousy and covert racism towards Caitlin Clark. Let’s see if they play “prison basketball! Like they have engaged in with Caitlin Clark… against the women on the opposing Country teams they face in the Olympics?! The bottom line is that this is a business and when the powers to be leave their most marketable player there’s definitely a need for some soul searching! I can see why the WNBA hasn’t turn a profit since their inception more than 25-years ago. They don’t understand that they’re in the entertainment business! But being “the crab people” league that they are… none of us should be surprised. Enough said!
I served 21 years in the navy and I fully understand why some people don't stand for the flag and I served with alot of them. So you should also boycott the US Navy because I know for a fact alot of thise people don't stand for the flag.
You are right ---Enough said!! My brother is retired Air Force almost 40 years and he does not stand for the flag. Everyone does not have your take on the Caitlin Clark issue. I don't think they are jealous of Clark but that they see her as a mediocre player that brought her cult followers with her and they are making excuses for her. How is her WNBA resume so great? Popularity contest? because she is not shooting that great, she was benched, overturns the ball at a super rate and stands around like a lost person! Clark has no game against most of the teams that she plays and no real team is going to stand up and allow her to freely shoot. Why is this even a conversation!
@@cyber6sapien the irony is that people are talking about C cuz of ehat she did IN COLLEGE. She can't do ot consistently against great defense and her fans are in denial
And trust me, this is not black and white, this is green vs green; toxic jealousy vs good financial sense. I don't want to hear one more word about how these gals should be paid more.
Toxic jealousy? CC is not leading in any category, so exactly what is there to be jealous of? Television PROGRAMMING is real! Repeat a thing enough and the average will believe.
Every team USA men's team had a amateur college player so I don't know why it's a big deal to put her on the team. If you really believe all those women guards are better than her then I don't know what to say 😂😂😂😂.
“She might be ready in the next 4 years “ By then we will ALL be disinterested and looking elsewhere. The WNBA will be forgotten again. They need her out in front NOW
The Globetrotters were seen due to 'popularity'. Were they respected? The NCAA tram didnt get an invite to SNL... The rookie Clark doesn't respect the history of Indiana. They won in 2012. 😊
They changed the rules for players like Jordan and Brady. The players are entertaininers to and if people don't enjoy your style of entertainment, or are turn off by it, they will take their money and eyes some where else. C
@@Mandownsportseven so they took notice that the way they were running the league could not continue. Sometimes you have to change or enforce things, if you have be a failing league for years like the wnba. I agree clark isn't among the best players, but she's the biggest draw and from a business point ,it's smart to take advantage of it.
@@MandownsportsBecause there are more white people in this nation. In order for the W to draw the Make America Great Again, capital mobbing white demographic, the media was used to program their minds with the LIE of a straight, catholic, white girl as being the best basketball player in the universe. What they’ve actually seen says otherwise. Rather than have a change in their minds, they want to change everything else. The display of entitled and supreme behavior is a result of and way to stabilize their cognitive dissonance.
Let's compare Clark's basketball resume to Jeremy Lin's, then maybe the comparison between the two would be worthy of a second glance. A better comparison to Clark's hype would be Zion Willamson's hype at Duke. Except Zion didn't spend four years in college building a following like Clark did. Zion didn't even lead his team to the Final Four once, like Clark did twice. His numbers in college don't bear any resemblance to Clark's numbers. Yet I never saw all this hate for Zion and this overall notion that he didn't earn the hype that he received like we see happening with Clark. I can only suspect that this is because Zion looked the part and Caitlin doesn't. Because as a college player Caitlin is FAR more accomplished than Zion ever was. And I'm betting on a more healthy and productive professional basketball career for Caitlin Clark compared to Zion Williamson as well.
No, Lin-sanity was the perfect comparison. I wasn't comparing their career, I was comparing thier sudden hype explosion that suddenly was drowned out once defenses started gameplanning against them 🤔
@@Mandownsports In that case the comparison makes even _less_ sense. Because you're comparing a professional who had a breif momentous period in the NBA, to a rookie who is adjusting from college to the professional league. We don't know what Clark's story is going to be yet, because her professional career has just started. We're only 11 or 12 games in. Also, Clark spent four years in college building a legacy. So her hype is based on a litany of tangible accomplishments that were earned over time. It's not comparable to Linsanity, which came out of nowhere and caught everybody off guard.
@@Mandownsports I'll also add this. Broussard just mentioned that Clark is on pace to become only the 5th WNBA player to average at least 15, 5 & 5 in a season. Not among rookies. Among _all_ WNBA players in league history. But I know, that's just more hype, right?
I say her performance on prior Team USA teams and her NCAA performance in the meantime...yes, the all time scoring record holder should be on the olympic team the year they finish college ball.
You all making it seems like because she is the all time scorer with no championships make her the best no……2 is not a winner 3 nobody Remembers……men only play one year of college so that’s not saying much for that Stat line 2 every one wants to be Steph curry and shoot the 3 from half court but never pay attention to his over all game he moves well with or without the ball ….CC got a lot of developing to do …..she can’t go left her handles not all that great but give her time to Gel….this country and Media always hype things up & the Puppets(People) always Jump on the Bandwagon and go nuts Supporting it…..Yall thought cause she was put on this high pedestal she was going to come in the Professional league and mop these other Players….No That’s not The case…Real fans are A fan of The Sport not A people Worshiper …..Who Wants to see the Players Earn they keep …..And she just not Ready Give her Time…but don’t expect her to be handed anything she didn’t earn…..
She played against amateurs not professionals. She can barely handle the WNBA. Her college career doesn’t mean she deserves to be on the team. She didn’t win anything.
Question; You are heavily favored to win Gold with or without Caitlin. Are there other missions or objectives to women’s basketball that are important to accomplish that Caitlin can facilitate?
No. There is only one mission....WIN GOLD. Purposely trying to promote one player is counterproductive to the main goal. I have to leave a reservation player off the roster and I have to give Caitlin minutes over another more deserving player plus the possibility is there that she turns the ball over just as much as she does in the WNBA. They could actually do damage to women's basketball by Caitlin getting outplayed
@@Mandownsports Tiger Woods was ranked 36th in the world after his first PGA season, they invited him to the 1997 Ryder Cup because his inclination elevated the game. Golf news was all Tiger for several years but eventually the casuals he brought to himself trickled over to the rest of the Tour. 1992 Dream Team brought Bird and Magic to the Olympics not to “only” win Gold. To be figureheads and ambassador’s for the game. Men’s basketball understood the opportunity. Stop it with the narrative that the 12th person has any outcome of winning gold. The 12th person in the Mav’s / Celtic finals is coming down to 6-8 people on each team not the end of the bench
@@KemperFi13 if you can say Caitlin earned a roster spot ill change my entire perspective. If you not brave enough to say that out loud end the conversation
@@Mandownsports Also Caitlin is a top 25 player. Really, she’s on the end of the bench. She’s getting out played by some other bench player on another country who couldn’t even make an WNBA team. They have lost one game in 40 years of international competition. If there is a close game, they are relying on the top 8 players. Caitlin won’t see the floor. But she ain’t going to hurt us against Angola, Japan or Croatia. What are you even saying?!
Hopefully another pro women's league can take off like Athletes Unlimited. I wouldn't want to play in a league with a Catlin Clark her fans are deranged how the hell you getting terrorist death threat over a basketball ball game...its really bazzar.
You don't put her on the Olympic team because she is popular. You put her on the Olympic team because everyone who has signed a WNBA contract wants to be paid more. They're about to be on the world stage. The WNBA is a business. It needs to be run like one. In terms of the All Star game, no. That has to be earned, but the Olympics presents an opportunity. Any business that is in shambles NEEDS to change something in order to get into the area of making profit. How many employees get laid off or take pay cuts for businesses to do this? Some times your employer has to do things you don't like to keep the company a success. Nothing the WNBA has tried so far has worked. If you stall on an opportunity, the opportunity may not be there when you're ready. Ride it when you have it. If Caitlin Clark turns out to not be good enough to be a superstar at this level, people will stop watching her, and the WNBA just missed their opportunity.
And the rest of the world don’t care about the United States bull….all they care about is the best players on the floor competing for a gold medal Simple the Olympics don’t need your coverage to be successful they deal with all countries Involvement they not just a United States thing they are a world wide thing….popularity’s here ain’t going to cut it over there …..Give the girl time to Gel and really learn the game Right now she or her time not good enough stop blaming the coach her players and give the fever time to grow & gel together Rome was not Built over night….
@@RecardoPenson-lm5ii The rest of the world doesn't care? Then why do so many people of other countries watch, and pay attention to professional sports in U.S.A.? Many of their favorite professional athletes are from the U.S.A. Many countries out there don't have professional sports or don't have a specific sport. I didn't say the Olympics needs her coverage to be successful. I said the WNBA needs the attention the Olympics can bring them. That means put in the stars. Who is the biggest star in all of basketball right now? Being a star in a professional sport isn't defined by best player. Professional sports organizations are entertainment businesses, the same as any movie production company.
@@Mandownsports Good. The best part is that it doesn't change anyone's life but those employed by the WNBA. They can miss the opportunity then, and keep complaining they don't make enough, or get enough attention. I wonder how many high school athletes have got a scholarship by showing out when a scout showed up for someone else. You want to be seen, play beside and against the player getting the most recognition.
@@JoshuaB-c2j No one has yet to explain to me how putting Caitlin on the roster equates to more eyes on the WNBA and more money. People keep saying that but I'm not sure they truly understand what they think they are saying 🤔
@Mandownsports but Larry Bird didn’t deserve to be on team USA. He wasn’t the best player at that time because he had a bad back. John Stockton was picked over Isaiah Thomas because MJ didn’t want him on the team. Politics dictated the players who were on the first dream team. Caitlin should absolutely be on the team to help market the sport. She’s the biggest name in women’s sports and we are acting like the women’s team isn’t going to beat every team by 20 points in the Olympics.
The team they picked for the dream team was the best possible team they could've picked in terms of BASKETBALL. Everyone EXCEPT Christian enhanced the team with their play, cohesiveness and/or leadership. NOBODY was on that team just for their popularity. You're asking to place Caitlin on the team just for her popularity and they didn't wanna do that. Do yall want her to earn anything as a professional or are you ok with the fans and media using shaming and guilt tactics to give her everything based on the popularity she earned in college?
@@Mandownsports Larry Bird wasn’t a top 12 player in the league that year and while people were not on that team for popularity, folks were left off due to politics. You guys hate being critical of MJ but we all know he left him off the team and it wasn’t right. Isaiah did earn his spot but they denied him. Stockton didn’t deserve it over Thomas and you know it
@@Dolo4Sure leaving Thomas off to allow for better team chemistry is not politics. Also, your argument is that because Larry Bird made the team and who was a player that owned the NBA for years, won multiple championships and MVPs, was an amazing leader, but had a bad back is reason to put a rookie on the team because of popularity? And you think that makes since? 🤔
@@Mandownsports you know Larry Bird was not a top 12 player in the league during that time. You mentioned team chemistry like that mattered back then. Do you know how bad the rest of the world was at basketball back then compared to NBA players? Are you saying that MJ, the GOAT, couldn’t win with Thomas on the team? Come on man. You’re reaching bro.
@@Dolo4Sure It's rude to ask me questions while ignoring the questions I asked you Sir. Do you want Caitlin to earn anything on a professional level or are you ok with everything being giving to her based on her college success?
Well of the guards who is she better than that they need to replace them with her? Because its not a guard on the squad that can't duplicate what she can do and with more efficiency. And why didn't she do like Brink and get on the 3X3 team if the goal was just to go to Paris
I didn't see this topic coming. I was hoping that ESPN was going to talk about her 10pts from the other day. Her 3pts performance was covered up by the foul without the ball. I bet a dollar to a donut she wins the Rookie of the year.
can you image an olympic practice wit Caitlin Clark on the court ,,,,she got all these superstars on the court and shes gonna ignore them to take logo threes,,,,,, OUT OF YOUR MIND
23pts, 9asts, 8rebs FG 64% in another win over the Sky. BTW, the Fever are now a .500 team. Yeah, Clark is definitely giving me bust vibes. It's almost as if expecting a player to go from college to a professional league in a little over a month and dominate, was deliberately unreasonable. And I'm not talking about her fans who can be excused for having unrealistic expectations. I'm talking about the folks who try to critique Clark based on the expectations of her fanbase, when they should know better.
@@Mandownsports You have extensive knowledge about the history of the game, yet you find it strange that fan bases are overly exuberant about their favorite stars? I think what may be at play here is the same thing that we accuse others of doing when it comes hyping Caitlin Clark. Because I recall some channels calling Nikola Jokic a "fake MVP", because he lost to the TWolves in this year's playoffs. One would think that Nikola Jokic already proved his MVP worthiness during last year's title run when he led the postseason in pts, rebs & asts. But when folks are determined to hate on a player who doesn't look like them, they keep moving the goal post regardless of what that player acheives. In Nikola Jokic's case, it's a double whammy. Because not only is he white, but he's isn't American either.
@@cyber6sapien no, the only thing that's at play with Caitlin is thar she isn't as good as advertised and the media and her fanbase are projecting their frustrations on anyone and anything they believe stands in the way of her GOAT status. On the other end you got WNBA fans putting a mirror in their face to remind her fans that they were wrong
I want whatever the women in and around the league want. I like how Caitlin fans want Caitlin to have things handed to her without having to earn it and cover it up with statements like "do you want the women to get paid."
yo man down im a fan but i have to know: are you a conservative or a liberal? marc lamont hill or thomas sowell? if you answer this right i will be a fan for life no matter how many times i disagree. and ill start calling in to your show at least once a week and contributing financially. i know you're a sports guy and i respect that , but we all got a worldview and im interested to know where you get yours.
@@chrisshergie1030 are you asking me which person I like? Or which person's views I agree with? I don't know either person enough to like or dislike them and I can't remember either of their viewpoints to have an opinion.
@@Mandownsports well only one of which will u be able to listen to for longer than 2 minutes. its like the Lord says, u will hate one and love the other, but u cannot love them both lol.
In the USA Basketball charter it talks about growing the game How is Chelsea Gray on the team then She's been injured all year I expect women to be emotional But not BM I don't want to hear anyone complaining about pay or people not watching How do you think The NBA became global because of The Dream Team and who was the most popular player on the team Michael Jordan Whether you want to admit it or not Caitlin Clark is the most popular player in women's basketball Stop with the integrity game nonsense It's a business first
@@Mandownsports More viewers equals a better TV deal Better TV deal equals more money for the players You may not want to admit it she's the most popular player at the moment Andraya Carter already showed why they don't want her on the team because she would be getting all the attention How about the WNBA go back to being irrelevant problem solved
Her followers need to just stop it.. Her on the Olympic team will not help the game grow by no means.. u have 12 teams who only play 40 games from May to September.. .... September... football going on men are transitioning the finals NBA to Olympics to football... Then throw the big 3 in the mix so how is it gonna grow... The only way the game grows is equality.. they would really have to sit down and commit to growing the wnba. Like let the women play B4 the men in the season MORE TEAMS!!!
@@Mandownsports bro people really don't know how hard it's going to be for the wnba.. u got football now in the talks of adding another game and it really not fair that these women who play with their heart and soul has to go in the off season to another country to make more money and kinda put their lives in jeopardy... Then u allow the big 3 to come in and take some of the spotlight.. so Caitlin Clark won't make a difference in growing the game and they definitely don't need to let it get out of control like the NBA..
@@dayenite31 big3 not taking any attention away from the WNBA. The wnba currently have the best basketball in America until the NBA change their rules to allow physical defense again.
ur argument is flawed. the nba was already popular and thriving and linsanity was a nice story that made the nba a couple millions to go with their many billions, jeremy lin didnt come into a dying league that was failing to make a profit with linsanity already poppin off at its peak. even still, had the all star selection come at the peak of linsanity you best believe they would have found a way to snub rajon rondo or deron williams to get him on the squad. theres a reason why the yao ming was a 10 yr starting Center in the AS game, started over Shaq, and a reason why fans determine the starters. the nba gets it. CC came into the league with these fans and now you think they are supposed to immediately stop being fans of her and switch over to some other player who is the better player in the wnba? thats not going to happen and its silly to even look at things the way you are choosing to look at them. what is it you are actually saying?its hard to buy the fact that its just about basketball to you, because if it was 100% simply about basketball you wouldnt spend alot of time on the wnba at all as its not a high quality brand of basketball. why does it matter to you the reason people are fans of CC? why do you think they should see she is not the best player already as a rookie and simply start supporting whoever the best player in the wnba is? if in 3 years she it no better than 15, then maybe u have a point but for now it kinda seems as if ur simply disappointed that she didn't take the league by storm. THAT would be a reasonable take, you should lean into that and hold her accountable but you got to hope for her success in the long run if u truly care about wnba basketball. i would hope she couldn't come into that league and be who she was in college from day 1. that would mean the wnba as a league was far worse than i thought. dont be the guy who doesn't see this could merely be part of her success story in the long run, as a basketball analyst it would follow you
Not sure why people think if you compare two things that that comparison is invalid if you can find a difference 🤔 The comparison was made because Linsanity was a hype job by some phenomenal play by a player that couldn't sustain that phenomenal play against elite defense.
@@Mandownsports and like linsanity u want CC fans to go away because shes not the #1 player in the league? and i didn't say ur comparison was invalid, i said it was flawed. i wasnt pointing out the difference as much as i was the broader picture and why its a flawed comparison. obviously i get the comparison. what about the rest of my argument? too long?
@@Mandownsports again, if in 3 years she hasnt adapted then u have a point. right now its premature and would honestly be a slap in the face to the whole league if CC came in day 1 and was Iowa from the jump. if she wasnt going to fight through some adversity and be in the gym upgrading her game every off season and/or lifting weights before every home game then she wasnt gonna be transformational anyways...but we have no control over whether she has that in her so lets observe and hold her to that standard.
@@chrisshergie1030 I'm just saying what I see. Are you speaking based on what you see now or what you project to happen 3 years from now? Tell me what you see right now. Has she lived up to the hype, yes or no?
@@Mandownsports now thats a different question then pretending to not understand why she has so much hype in the 1st place. is that your point? that shes not the best player in the league and therefore hasnt lived up to the hype? think that much is obvious. i think there is something bigger you are hinting at, perhaps you dont even know what it is. whatever it is i think u need to flesh it out more in your own head to make sure you're not subconsciously making it about things other than basketball
Tiger Woods was ranked 36th in the world after his first PGA season. MJ wasn’t the best player on earth his Rookie year. She’s a top 30 player in the league her rookie season. She’s well on her way to being a top 10 player.
We should, if Bronny James was the *all time* points leader for college basketball and second all time in assists, led his team to 2 consecutive Final Fours, knocking off the eventual 2024 champion in 2023, and knocking off the eventual 2023 champion in 2024. Catlin Clark averaged 32ppg 9apg and 7rpg in her final year in college, while Bronny James averaged 5 ppg 2apg and 3rpg. Yeah, but aside from that the two situations are remarkably similar. You just demonstrated to the world that you have NO idea what you're talking about.
NBA already a global league where top players get 100+ million contracts. WNBA has been whining about attendance and salaries for 20 years. The comparison is not the same. 1992 Dream team brought 4 players not considered Top 12 for reasons outside of just winning gold. That’s a better comparison. And they accomplished the mission
@cyber6sapien Wrong. What you did in college doesn't make you star in the pros. You have to prove yourself. And you are missing the point. People are saying put her on the Olympic team cause of her popularity. She's not good enough. That means people need to do the same with Bronny. Put him on a bunch of teams and give him accolades for his popularity when he enters the NBA.
*Skylar diggings dont listen to Diana*😂😂😂😂 if you know you know.. Just jokes..people listening to talking tv heads. Im not even sure she should be the reserve. I mean next up.
@Mandownsports really Angel is basically averaging a double double. But people ave saying CC. Was snubbed?? I'm confused. If she was 30 pts and her team was 2-11 I would say put her on the roster. But she not ready
Come on man. You're all emotional over the white chick that you're thinking irrational. Was Victor Wembayama getting "killed by the pros". She a rookie that didn't even have an off season. She's putting up great numbers. Her stats are better than most off the chick's on the Olympic squad.... She just finished breaking the all time college scoring record, displaying mad game....She got ti the final four twice and made the finals on a team that had no business being there....and on top if it, she doesn't self promote on social media, she's mad cool, and didn't ask for any of this......and you're over here going out of your way to make uo reasons to hate just cause she's a white chick. That sh*t is ridiculous
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I keep noticing that none of the people who say she should be on the team (Stephen A. Smith, Gilbert Arenas, etc.) are making a basketball argument, all they're talking about is marketing (a.k.a. popularity contest).
Pretty much
They're just letting you know who their god is.
EXACTLY 🎉😂😂😂😂
These men are weak ambassadors for the power structure who are operating under agendas to achieve something for themselves like LeBron cape crusading because he wants the Las Vegas expansion franchise that dude is unbelievable and trust me he gonna get undermined the minute he doesn't deliver on his mission and he won't succeed. Quite as it's kept he is no favorite of the power establishment he is a tool that's it.
Why would they need to make a basketball argument when Team USA will win gold regardless of whether or not Clark is on the team?
But how did all of those previous gold medals help to grow the popularity of those individual players or the WNBA as a whole?
Remember the narrative the media said Carmelo was jealous of Jeremy Lin.
Media keeps spinning the same narratives.
Exactly 💯
THIS CAITLIN CLARK SHIT IS CRAZY
Some people have a gravitational pull. Tiger dominated the news well before he was the best player in the world. He had that it factor. It is what it is
It's demonic you ask me this is typical of idol worshipping definitely cult worship and actually could get someone killed. I wouldn't be surprised if the Olympic team is subject to death threats and terrorism These people have really gone off the rails and at the worst time. The next five years are going to see changes in this nation that you might not want to live through it's gonna be hell on earth and right here in the USA.
@@KemperFi13 SHIT GOLF IS ONE OF THE TOUGHEST SPORTS IN THE WORLD. IT'S ALL INDIVIDUAL. CLARK IS NOT A GENERATIONAL TALENT. THERE ARE MANY PLAYERS PAST, FUTURE AND PRESENT THAT DESERVE THE NATIONAL SPOTLIGHT. SO. THIS IS PURE POLITICAL. THEY WOULDN'T LET TIGER BREAK A WHITE MAN'S RECORD AND ESSENTIALLY OWN A SPORT THAT HAS SO CALLED BEEN DOMINATED BY A WHITE FIGURE. IT'S ALWAYS ABOUT POLITICS. THIS COUNTRY WAS BUILT ON LIE AFTER LIE. SO IT'S NOT WHAT IT IS. WE HAVE TO CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AND SHAPE WHAT THE NEXT 400+ YEARS WILL LOOK LIKE.
@@KemperFi13 but he was winning while hype was growing. She isn’t winning anything.
@@RaynellJamalExactly,the fever may be picking #1 again for the third straight time next season.
You said it all bro!! She is simply not ready. Others are way more deserving. She needs to get better. She’s not even a champion. The media has made this conversation hella weird.
Salty tears 😂
Imagine putting a way past his prime superstar in the Olympic team just because he's popular... Oh wait (Bron 😂)
I doubt Lebron is on the team for popularity
@@Mandownsports Hmmm, are all the 3's and 4's great players of the league rn from aboard? 😳 I honestly don't know, American nationals don't have a singular threat to differentiate them easily 😅😂
@@Mandownsports that’s exactly the reason why he is on the team. He, KD, and Steph are still the most marketable players in the NBA the proof is playoff viewership declines when they are not playing.
I doubt DT is on there for popularity now you gonna say it's Okay to put old man Brin on the team but you want DT off the team for a rookie unbelievable 😔
@@MandownsportsDiana and CC has same stats if CC's ain't even better. Growing is popularity. Growing and promoting is popularity🤣
First off you can't snub someone who didn't try out. Tbh i don't think Caitlin needs to play in this Olympics. I don't think her legs will be under her by time the Olympics comes around. By the time the Olympics get here Clark would have played 79 games since November between college and Wnba with little to no break. Clark is a jump shooter and she needs her legs. Same thing happened to Kobe went from playing 20 something games to 80 games and he starting shooting air balls because his legs wasn't used to that many games. If Caitlin get to Paris and start shooting air balls because her legs are tired how is that good for her brand or the wnba brand?
Its hilarious to me how they're packing these arenas to see CC get exposed 😂😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@Mandownsports BRUH AM I LYING?🤣
@@michaelmckoy1518 not at all! Lol How many times we need to come to a fight to see her get knocked out before we realize she ain't it?
@@Mandownsports that Jeremy Lin comparison was spot on.
@@michaelmckoy1518 Caitlin Stans didn't like it lol 😆
Caitlin Clark doesn't deserve to be on Team USA
I agree
@@Mandownsportsfrom a basketball point I agree, but there isn't any doubt more people would watch it if she was. Did the 92 team need Jordan bird and Magic two of which, from a basketball point was far past their prime. They didn't need them to win, but not as many people would have watched if they were not.
The women are going to win that's a given, with or without but how many watches them do it without her, from a business point bad mistake, just like leaving Jordan bird or magic, from a PR marketing point.
@@coxfordGamer stop mentioning MJ, Bird and Magic. They were the best players on the team and the leaders and they were popular. Caitlin is JUST POPULAR
@@Mandownsports the point is they brought in more eyes and fans being on it.
She can learn from the work ethics of the best WNBA players.
Caitlin Clark can't handled the WNBA physicality
Not at the moment
they are trying to do what the nba did with Lebron and look how bad the nba is know
Not even as a first alternate. Allisha Gray is a far superior and efficient player on either side of the ball regardless of the metric.
You might be right ✅️
Caitlyn Clark might be the female version of Tim Tebow, a legendary, record setting ALL TIME GREAT college player who needs the team to SACRIFICE the success of her exceptional teammates so that she can appear to be the GREAT PLAYER she was when she was competing against non professionals in college.
Well said
Their idiotic perspective shows their complete lack of regard for the professionalism of the athletes and for the viability of the sport itself. They are essentially crapping on women’s college basketball.
I agree
All those are good points and true i agree but their coming to see her anyways. She's bringing in the eyes and money.
I agree because i said the same thing what if they put her on the team and she play bad how is that going to grow the game. What they wanna say is how dare you leave Caitlin off team usa when we want her to recognized globally.
As a-Blackman… Veteran; not that my master status should matter- who served more than 20-years the U.S. Air Force I won’t be watching Team USA Women compete for the gold medal in basketball because if we are truly talking individuals on the women’s basketball team representing US then Brittney Griner definitely shouldn’t be on team USA with her history of not standing up during the playing of our National Anthem to show respect for the US Flag which is proudly displayed during the Olympics! As for earning a spot on the women’s Olympics roster Caitlin Clark’s résumé for the WNBAs 2024 is better than Diana Taurasi’s! So the Olympics selection committee and all they WOKE women alleged sports analysts with their biased attitude toward Caitlin Clark need to stop all the excuses… The LGBTQ and these entitled black WNBA led players need to stop this nonsense and their jealousy and covert racism towards Caitlin Clark. Let’s see if they play “prison basketball! Like they have engaged in with Caitlin Clark… against the women on the opposing Country teams they face in the Olympics?! The bottom line is that this is a business and when the powers to be leave their most marketable player there’s definitely a need for some soul searching! I can see why the WNBA hasn’t turn a profit since their inception more than 25-years ago. They don’t understand that they’re in the entertainment business! But being “the crab people” league that they are… none of us should be surprised. Enough said!
As a 50yo Greek American from NYC, Amen my brother.
I served 21 years in the navy and I fully understand why some people don't stand for the flag and I served with alot of them. So you should also boycott the US Navy because I know for a fact alot of thise people don't stand for the flag.
But if she or he was your child though 🤔🤔as a black American y'all hypocrites so screw the flag and American terrorists and what........
You are right ---Enough said!! My brother is retired Air Force almost 40 years and he does not stand for the flag. Everyone does not have your take on the Caitlin Clark issue. I don't think they are jealous of Clark but that they see her as a mediocre player that brought her cult followers with her and they are making excuses for her. How is her WNBA resume so great? Popularity contest? because she is not shooting that great, she was benched, overturns the ball at a super rate and stands around like a lost person! Clark has no game against most of the teams that she plays and no real team is going to stand up and allow her to freely shoot. Why is this even a conversation!
CC is the reason ANY of us are talking about the WNBA in general. Think about that.
You gotta ask yourself why you have so much interest all of a sudden while also knowing CC isn't the best the league has to offer. Think about that.
You mean that's why you talking about it. Caitlin have done anything to deserve to be on team. Its not a popularity contest
@@diannharper5939 great point
FACTS! That's the irony of it all that's completely lost on these dudes.
@@cyber6sapien the irony is that people are talking about C cuz of ehat she did IN COLLEGE. She can't do ot consistently against great defense and her fans are in denial
And trust me, this is not black and white, this is green vs green; toxic jealousy vs good financial sense.
I don't want to hear one more word about how these gals should be paid more.
It's fully black and white dude 🙄
Explain to me how giving a roster spot to a player that didn't earn equals money?
Very well said.
Toxic jealousy? CC is not leading in any category, so exactly what is there to be jealous of? Television PROGRAMMING is real! Repeat a thing enough and the average will believe.
Every team USA men's team had a amateur college player so I don't know why it's a big deal to put her on the team. If you really believe all those women guards are better than her then I don't know what to say 😂😂😂😂.
“She might be ready in the next 4 years “
By then we will ALL be disinterested and looking elsewhere. The WNBA will be forgotten again.
They need her out in front NOW
Explain why you all with be disinterested in 4 years. I think that's worth a conversation 🤔
@@destinypirate what's gonna happen in 4 years with your Interest level?
@@destinypirateWhich is why the Fever got striked with 12 games in 20 days.
The Globetrotters were seen due to 'popularity'. Were they respected? The NCAA tram didnt get an invite to SNL... The rookie Clark doesn't respect the history of Indiana. They won in 2012. 😊
They changed the rules for players like Jordan and Brady. The players are entertaininers to and if people don't enjoy your style of entertainment, or are turn off by it, they will take their money and eyes some where else. C
You're lying. They enforced the rules for MJ, not changed them
@@Mandownsportseven so they took notice that the way they were running the league could not continue. Sometimes you have to change or enforce things, if you have be a failing league for years like the wnba. I agree clark isn't among the best players, but she's the biggest draw and from a business point ,it's smart to take advantage of it.
@@coxfordGamer WHY is she the biggest draw? Let's unpack that?
@@MandownsportsBecause there are more white people in this nation. In order for the W to draw the Make America Great Again, capital mobbing white demographic, the media was used to program their minds with the LIE of a straight, catholic, white girl as being the best basketball player in the universe. What they’ve actually seen says otherwise. Rather than have a change in their minds, they want to change everything else. The display of entitled and supreme behavior is a result of and way to stabilize their cognitive dissonance.
Great video big bro! U been cooking on this CC situation
You been cooking too big dawg
@@Mandownsports thank you big bro! Im calling in Friday! I love the dialogue you creating 🗣️☎️
Let's compare Clark's basketball resume to Jeremy Lin's, then maybe the comparison between the two would be worthy of a second glance.
A better comparison to Clark's hype would be Zion Willamson's hype at Duke. Except Zion didn't spend four years in college building a following like
Clark did. Zion didn't even lead his team to the Final Four once, like Clark did twice. His numbers in college don't bear any resemblance to Clark's
numbers. Yet I never saw all this hate for Zion and this overall notion that he didn't earn the hype that he received like we see happening with Clark.
I can only suspect that this is because Zion looked the part and Caitlin doesn't. Because as a college player Caitlin is FAR more accomplished than
Zion ever was. And I'm betting on a more healthy and productive professional basketball career for Caitlin Clark compared to Zion Williamson as well.
No, Lin-sanity was the perfect comparison. I wasn't comparing their career, I was comparing thier sudden hype explosion that suddenly was drowned out once defenses started gameplanning against them 🤔
@@Mandownsports In that case the comparison makes even _less_ sense. Because you're comparing a professional who had a breif momentous
period in the NBA, to a rookie who is adjusting from college to the professional league. We don't know what Clark's story is going to be yet, because
her professional career has just started. We're only 11 or 12 games in. Also, Clark spent four years in college building a legacy. So her hype is based
on a litany of tangible accomplishments that were earned over time. It's not comparable to Linsanity, which came out of nowhere and caught everybody
off guard.
@@Mandownsports I'll also add this. Broussard just mentioned that Clark is on pace to become only the 5th WNBA player to average at least
15, 5 & 5 in a season. Not among rookies. Among _all_ WNBA players in league history. But I know, that's just more hype, right?
@@cyber6sapien yeah, it's a Lin-Sanity comparison for sure. Pointing out where it's different at doesn't change much for me
@@cyber6sapien
Clark is also on pace to break the single season turnover record.
“Hands off the merch” 😂😂😂😂😂
Lol 🤣
She’s barely handling the WNBA(the best players in the world)…which means she will do better against World competition.
But it also means the world women thise chose will do even better than she possibly could because they are handling the WNBA just fine
Brittney Griner doesn't deserve to be on team USA
Why not?
Only CENTER ON THE TEAM😮
You gonna leave 6'9 at home to pick up a 6'0 turn over machine dam at least make it make sense.
Why?
You sound crazy
I say her performance on prior Team USA teams and her NCAA performance in the meantime...yes, the all time scoring record holder should be on the olympic team the year they finish college ball.
Wow
You all making it seems like because she is the all time scorer with no championships make her the best no……2 is not a winner 3 nobody Remembers……men only play one year of college so that’s not saying much for that Stat line 2 every one wants to be Steph curry and shoot the 3 from half court but never pay attention to his over all game he moves well with or without the ball ….CC got a lot of developing to do …..she can’t go left her handles not all that great but give her time to Gel….this country and Media always hype things up & the Puppets(People) always Jump on the Bandwagon and go nuts Supporting it…..Yall thought cause she was put on this high pedestal she was going to come in the Professional league and mop these other Players….No That’s not The case…Real fans are A fan of The Sport not A people Worshiper …..Who Wants to see the Players Earn they keep …..And she just not Ready Give her Time…but don’t expect her to be handed anything she didn’t earn…..
She played against amateurs not professionals. She can barely handle the WNBA. Her college career doesn’t mean she deserves to be on the team. She didn’t win anything.
PERFECT LINSANITY COMP!!!
Yeah I thought so too
Question; You are heavily favored to win Gold with or without Caitlin. Are there other missions or objectives to women’s basketball that are important to accomplish that Caitlin can facilitate?
No. There is only one mission....WIN GOLD. Purposely trying to promote one player is counterproductive to the main goal. I have to leave a reservation player off the roster and I have to give Caitlin minutes over another more deserving player plus the possibility is there that she turns the ball over just as much as she does in the WNBA. They could actually do damage to women's basketball by Caitlin getting outplayed
@@Mandownsports Tiger Woods was ranked 36th in the world after his first PGA season, they invited him to the 1997 Ryder Cup because his inclination elevated the game. Golf news was all Tiger for several years but eventually the casuals he brought to himself trickled over to the rest of the Tour. 1992 Dream Team brought Bird and Magic to the Olympics not to “only” win Gold. To be figureheads and ambassador’s for the game. Men’s basketball understood the opportunity. Stop it with the narrative that the 12th person has any outcome of winning gold. The 12th person in the Mav’s / Celtic finals is coming down to 6-8 people on each team not the end of the bench
@@KemperFi13 if you can say Caitlin earned a roster spot ill change my entire perspective. If you not brave enough to say that out loud end the conversation
@@Mandownsports Also Caitlin is a top 25 player. Really, she’s on the end of the bench. She’s getting out played by some other bench player on another country who couldn’t even make an WNBA team. They have lost one game in 40 years of international competition. If there is a close game, they are relying on the top 8 players. Caitlin won’t see the floor. But she ain’t going to hurt us against Angola, Japan or Croatia. What are you even saying?!
@@KemperFi13 how does she help the WNBA while sitting on the bench?
Im glad she didn't make it gives her time to rest and get better. But if i was running a business i also want the biggest name at the moment.
Shady sounds like a damn fool...but I'm not surprised. It would have been nice to have a WNBA ex player on the panel to counter his talking points.
I agree
Why are you even compairing this to linsanity lol. Bruh CC earned her popularity in college and not a month of good basketball 😂
You totally missed the point. All you heard was Linsanity and got triggered 😂
Women are winning gold if they pick names out of a hat. They don’t need DT or BG…
They don't need leadership from vets? Interesting 🤔
Hopefully another pro women's league can take off like Athletes Unlimited. I wouldn't want to play in a league with a Catlin Clark her fans are deranged how the hell you getting terrorist death threat over a basketball ball game...its really bazzar.
Yeah that's ridiculous
You don't put her on the Olympic team because she is popular. You put her on the Olympic team because everyone who has signed a WNBA contract wants to be paid more. They're about to be on the world stage. The WNBA is a business. It needs to be run like one. In terms of the All Star game, no. That has to be earned, but the Olympics presents an opportunity. Any business that is in shambles NEEDS to change something in order to get into the area of making profit. How many employees get laid off or take pay cuts for businesses to do this? Some times your employer has to do things you don't like to keep the company a success. Nothing the WNBA has tried so far has worked.
If you stall on an opportunity, the opportunity may not be there when you're ready. Ride it when you have it. If Caitlin Clark turns out to not be good enough to be a superstar at this level, people will stop watching her, and the WNBA just missed their opportunity.
No
And the rest of the world don’t care about the United States bull….all they care about is the best players on the floor competing for a gold medal Simple the Olympics don’t need your coverage to be successful they deal with all countries Involvement they not just a United States thing they are a world wide thing….popularity’s here ain’t going to cut it over there …..Give the girl time to Gel and really learn the game Right now she or her time not good enough stop blaming the coach her players and give the fever time to grow & gel together Rome was not Built over night….
@@RecardoPenson-lm5ii The rest of the world doesn't care? Then why do so many people of other countries watch, and pay attention to professional sports in U.S.A.? Many of their favorite professional athletes are from the U.S.A. Many countries out there don't have professional sports or don't have a specific sport.
I didn't say the Olympics needs her coverage to be successful. I said the WNBA needs the attention the Olympics can bring them. That means put in the stars. Who is the biggest star in all of basketball right now? Being a star in a professional sport isn't defined by best player. Professional sports organizations are entertainment businesses, the same as any movie production company.
@@Mandownsports Good. The best part is that it doesn't change anyone's life but those employed by the WNBA. They can miss the opportunity then, and keep complaining they don't make enough, or get enough attention.
I wonder how many high school athletes have got a scholarship by showing out when a scout showed up for someone else. You want to be seen, play beside and against the player getting the most recognition.
@@JoshuaB-c2j No one has yet to explain to me how putting Caitlin on the roster equates to more eyes on the WNBA and more money. People keep saying that but I'm not sure they truly understand what they think they are saying 🤔
@Mandownsports but Larry Bird didn’t deserve to be on team USA. He wasn’t the best player at that time because he had a bad back. John Stockton was picked over Isaiah Thomas because MJ didn’t want him on the team. Politics dictated the players who were on the first dream team. Caitlin should absolutely be on the team to help market the sport. She’s the biggest name in women’s sports and we are acting like the women’s team isn’t going to beat every team by 20 points in the Olympics.
The team they picked for the dream team was the best possible team they could've picked in terms of BASKETBALL. Everyone EXCEPT Christian enhanced the team with their play, cohesiveness and/or leadership. NOBODY was on that team just for their popularity. You're asking to place Caitlin on the team just for her popularity and they didn't wanna do that. Do yall want her to earn anything as a professional or are you ok with the fans and media using shaming and guilt tactics to give her everything based on the popularity she earned in college?
@@Mandownsports Larry Bird wasn’t a top 12 player in the league that year and while people were not on that team for popularity, folks were left off due to politics. You guys hate being critical of MJ but we all know he left him off the team and it wasn’t right. Isaiah did earn his spot but they denied him. Stockton didn’t deserve it over Thomas and you know it
@@Dolo4Sure leaving Thomas off to allow for better team chemistry is not politics. Also, your argument is that because Larry Bird made the team and who was a player that owned the NBA for years, won multiple championships and MVPs, was an amazing leader, but had a bad back is reason to put a rookie on the team because of popularity? And you think that makes since? 🤔
@@Mandownsports you know Larry Bird was not a top 12 player in the league during that time. You mentioned team chemistry like that mattered back then. Do you know how bad the rest of the world was at basketball back then compared to NBA players? Are you saying that MJ, the GOAT, couldn’t win with Thomas on the team? Come on man. You’re reaching bro.
@@Dolo4Sure It's rude to ask me questions while ignoring the questions I asked you Sir. Do you want Caitlin to earn anything on a professional level or are you ok with everything being giving to her based on her college success?
Well of the guards who is she better than that they need to replace them with her? Because its not a guard on the squad that can't duplicate what she can do and with more efficiency. And why didn't she do like Brink and get on the 3X3 team if the goal was just to go to Paris
Very true
*Jeremy Lin average about 8 turnovers a game and even had a triple double turnover. So your comparison was perfect*
I agree. In both cases the hype was amazing and the balloon burst once the defensive intensity turned up on them
I didn't see this topic coming. I was hoping that ESPN was going to talk about her 10pts from the other day. Her 3pts performance was covered up by the foul without the ball. I bet a dollar to a donut she wins the Rookie of the year.
Very true
It's a business. And CC has done more for the wnba in a couple of months than all those on the roster.
The turnover skills are legendary 🎉😂
🤣🤣🤣
@@brandonleemossYou’re correct, she’s leading in Turnovers. #1 spot!
can you image an olympic practice wit Caitlin Clark on the court ,,,,she got all these superstars on the court and shes gonna ignore them to take logo threes,,,,,, OUT OF YOUR MIND
Lol
Excellent commentary, Lensanity lol.
Salute
23pts, 9asts, 8rebs FG 64% in another win over the Sky. BTW, the Fever are now a .500 team. Yeah, Clark is definitely giving me bust vibes.
It's almost as if expecting a player to go from college to a professional league in a little over a month and dominate, was deliberately unreasonable.
And I'm not talking about her fans who can be excused for having unrealistic expectations. I'm talking about the folks who try to critique Clark based
on the expectations of her fanbase, when they should know better.
Say the name of the people who said Caitlin would dominate the league as a rookie, because I can say with confidence it wasn't me.
@@Mandownsports I didn't claim you were one of those people. Which makes you grading her progress based on that expectation
all the more strange.
@@cyber6sapien I think it's strange we were told she was the GOAT.
@@Mandownsports You have extensive knowledge about the history of the game, yet you find it strange that fan bases
are overly exuberant about their favorite stars? I think what may be at play here is the same thing that we accuse others
of doing when it comes hyping Caitlin Clark. Because I recall some channels calling Nikola Jokic a "fake MVP", because he
lost to the TWolves in this year's playoffs. One would think that Nikola Jokic already proved his MVP worthiness during last
year's title run when he led the postseason in pts, rebs & asts. But when folks are determined to hate on a player who doesn't
look like them, they keep moving the goal post regardless of what that player acheives. In Nikola Jokic's case, it's a double
whammy. Because not only is he white, but he's isn't American either.
@@cyber6sapien no, the only thing that's at play with Caitlin is thar she isn't as good as advertised and the media and her fanbase are projecting their frustrations on anyone and anything they believe stands in the way of her GOAT status. On the other end you got WNBA fans putting a mirror in their face to remind her fans that they were wrong
Do yall want the girls to get paid or NOT???
I want whatever the women in and around the league want. I like how Caitlin fans want Caitlin to have things handed to her without having to earn it and cover it up with statements like "do you want the women to get paid."
Linsanity is exactly what this reminds me of
Me too
yo man down im a fan but i have to know: are you a conservative or a liberal? marc lamont hill or thomas sowell? if you answer this right i will be a fan for life no matter how many times i disagree.
and ill start calling in to your show at least once a week and contributing financially.
i know you're a sports guy and i respect that , but we all got a worldview and im interested to know where you get yours.
I'm neither conservative nor liberal. I don't even get caught up in that nonsense
@@Mandownsports fair enough. marc lamont hill or thomas sowell?
@@chrisshergie1030 are you asking me which person I like? Or which person's views I agree with? I don't know either person enough to like or dislike them and I can't remember either of their viewpoints to have an opinion.
@@Mandownsports well only one of which will u be able to listen to for longer than 2 minutes. its like the Lord says, u will hate one and love the other, but u cannot love them both lol.
In the USA Basketball charter it talks about growing the game How is Chelsea Gray on the team then She's been injured all year I expect women to be emotional But not BM I don't want to hear anyone complaining about pay or people not watching How do you think The NBA became global because of The Dream Team and who was the most popular player on the team Michael Jordan Whether you want to admit it or not Caitlin Clark is the most popular player in women's basketball Stop with the integrity game nonsense It's a business first
Explain how pay is gonna be affected by having Caitlin on the roster
@@Mandownsports More viewers equals a better TV deal Better TV deal equals more money for the players You may not want to admit it she's the most popular player at the moment Andraya Carter already showed why they don't want her on the team because she would be getting all the attention How about the WNBA go back to being irrelevant problem solved
Her followers need to just stop it.. Her on the Olympic team will not help the game grow by no means.. u have 12 teams who only play 40 games from May to September.. .... September... football going on men are transitioning the finals NBA to Olympics to football... Then throw the big 3 in the mix so how is it gonna grow... The only way the game grows is equality.. they would really have to sit down and commit to growing the wnba. Like let the women play B4 the men in the season MORE TEAMS!!!
@@dayenite31 I love the idea of the wnba and nba playing in the same season
@@Mandownsports bro that would be something else...
@@dayenite31 I agree
@@Mandownsports bro people really don't know how hard it's going to be for the wnba.. u got football now in the talks of adding another game and it really not fair that these women who play with their heart and soul has to go in the off season to another country to make more money and kinda put their lives in jeopardy... Then u allow the big 3 to come in and take some of the spotlight.. so Caitlin Clark won't make a difference in growing the game and they definitely don't need to let it get out of control like the NBA..
@@dayenite31 big3 not taking any attention away from the WNBA. The wnba currently have the best basketball in America until the NBA change their rules to allow physical defense again.
ur argument is flawed. the nba was already popular and thriving and linsanity was a nice story that made the nba a couple millions to go with their many billions, jeremy lin didnt come into a dying league that was failing to make a profit with linsanity already poppin off at its peak. even still, had the all star selection come at the peak of linsanity you best believe they would have found a way to snub rajon rondo or deron williams to get him on the squad. theres a reason why the yao ming was a 10 yr starting Center in the AS game, started over Shaq, and a reason why fans determine the starters. the nba gets it.
CC came into the league with these fans and now you think they are supposed to immediately stop being fans of her and switch over to some other player who is the better player in the wnba? thats not going to happen and its silly to even look at things the way you are choosing to look at them. what is it you are actually saying?its hard to buy the fact that its just about basketball to you, because if it was 100% simply about basketball you wouldnt spend alot of time on the wnba at all as its not a high quality brand of basketball. why does it matter to you the reason people are fans of CC? why do you think they should see she is not the best player already as a rookie and simply start supporting whoever the best player in the wnba is?
if in 3 years she it no better than 15, then maybe u have a point but for now it kinda seems as if ur simply disappointed that she didn't take the league by storm. THAT would be a reasonable take, you should lean into that and hold her accountable but you got to hope for her success in the long run if u truly care about wnba basketball. i would hope she couldn't come into that league and be who she was in college
from day 1. that would mean the wnba as a league was far worse than i thought. dont be the guy who doesn't see this could merely be part of her success story in the long run, as a basketball analyst it would follow you
Not sure why people think if you compare two things that that comparison is invalid if you can find a difference 🤔 The comparison was made because Linsanity was a hype job by some phenomenal play by a player that couldn't sustain that phenomenal play against elite defense.
@@Mandownsports and like linsanity u want CC fans to go away because shes not the #1 player in the league? and i didn't say ur comparison was invalid, i said it was flawed. i wasnt pointing out the difference as much as i was the broader picture and why its a flawed comparison. obviously i get the comparison. what about the rest of my argument? too long?
@@Mandownsports again, if in 3 years she hasnt adapted then u have a point. right now its premature and would honestly be a slap in the face to the whole league if CC came in day 1 and was Iowa from the jump. if she wasnt going to fight through some adversity and be in the gym upgrading her game every off season and/or lifting weights before every home game then she wasnt gonna be transformational anyways...but we have no control over whether she has that in her so lets observe and hold her to that standard.
@@chrisshergie1030 I'm just saying what I see. Are you speaking based on what you see now or what you project to happen 3 years from now? Tell me what you see right now. Has she lived up to the hype, yes or no?
@@Mandownsports now thats a different question then pretending to not understand why she has so much hype in the 1st place. is that your point? that shes not the best player in the league and therefore hasnt lived up to the hype? think that much is obvious. i think there is something bigger you are hinting at, perhaps you dont even know what it is. whatever it is i think u need to flesh it out more in your own head to make sure you're not subconsciously making it about things other than basketball
So much glaze the ball slips outta her hands😂
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I gotta wait to see it?
This Clark girl is the most overrated basketball player of all time
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That's because these dumbasses don't know about business
@destinypirate
I'll explain it.....She's white, so he's not thinking rationally. Unfortunately, it happens all too often.
Tiger Woods was ranked 36th in the world after his first PGA season. MJ wasn’t the best player on earth his Rookie year. She’s a top 30 player in the league her rookie season. She’s well on her way to being a top 10 player.
@@KemperFi13Please stop comparing her rookie year to MJ. She's not even Iverson her rookie year
The question is are we going to be doing the same thing for Bronny James? He will have a whole bunch of hype surrounding him.
We should, if Bronny James was the *all time* points leader for college basketball and second all time in assists, led his team to 2 consecutive
Final Fours, knocking off the eventual 2024 champion in 2023, and knocking off the eventual 2023 champion in 2024. Catlin Clark averaged
32ppg 9apg and 7rpg in her final year in college, while Bronny James averaged 5 ppg 2apg and 3rpg. Yeah, but aside from that the two situations
are remarkably similar. You just demonstrated to the world that you have NO idea what you're talking about.
NBA already a global league where top players get 100+ million contracts. WNBA has been whining about attendance and salaries for 20 years. The comparison is not the same. 1992 Dream team brought 4 players not considered Top 12 for reasons outside of just winning gold. That’s a better comparison. And they accomplished the mission
@cyber6sapien Wrong. What you did in college doesn't make you star in the pros. You have to prove yourself.
And you are missing the point. People are saying put her on the Olympic team cause of her popularity. She's not good enough. That means people need to do the same with Bronny. Put him on a bunch of teams and give him accolades for his popularity when he enters the NBA.
Hard work is still valued here
I can argue the 2 biggest snubs are arike and skylar
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Why are we pushing merit all of a sudden when the league is surviving off of non-merit donations from the actual merit based league?
*Skylar diggings dont listen to Diana*😂😂😂😂 if you know you know..
Just jokes..people listening to talking tv heads. Im not even sure she should be the reserve. I mean next up.
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@Mandownsports really Angel is basically averaging a double double. But people ave saying CC. Was snubbed?? I'm confused.
If she was 30 pts and her team was 2-11 I would say put her on the roster. But she not ready
Ditto
SALUTE BRO..
Hell no No Marsha Brady She’s way overrated The Pros Is killing her The worst team in the league hell no
Come on man. You're all emotional over the white chick that you're thinking irrational.
Was Victor Wembayama getting "killed by the pros".
She a rookie that didn't even have an off season. She's putting up great numbers. Her stats are better than most off the chick's on the Olympic squad....
She just finished breaking the all time college scoring record, displaying mad game....She got ti the final four twice and made the finals on a team that had no business being there....and on top if it, she doesn't self promote on social media, she's mad cool, and didn't ask for any of this......and you're over here going out of your way to make uo reasons to hate just cause she's a white chick. That sh*t is ridiculous
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