@@eTeknixI'm torn between an RX 7900 GRE and something a little higher up. My target is 1440p and I don't feel the need to max every game out even on my existing hardware.
Well, it depends. In my opinion in these times for gaming, any GPU that can run the most demanding titles at native 1080p High 60 FPS is the minimum. The bad part about it is that you need to pay at least more than $400 (Amazon USA has cheap Gigabyte RX 6900 XT) for that performance that will require 100% GPU usage.
@@eTeknix Yes, that is also my point, but you need a specifc GPU level for that. That would be 4K but at 1080p, but I would like to have 60 FPS at 60-70% GPU usage.
@@eTeknix I actually use DLSS and Frame Gen on hot days on my 4090 😆DLAA on cold days, efficiency is more than just cost, heat is a real battle for my gaming space
@@xavilend You're as bad as me shoving the machine into "Power Saver" whenever I'm not doing something intensive, because it lowers idle CPU usage by ~10W (and idle temp by ~@10°C) 😂
These technologies are great, and they can certainly improve the value preposition, as well as the gaming experience, but we absolutely still need to make more gains in rasterization, so these features have a more firm foundation to build from. We've now normalized upscaling and FG as if we're counting REAL FPS, and that's just not great for the industry.
still need to make more gains in rasterization? To what extent, even mid-range cards are hitting massive FPS in many maintream titles with no further technologies enabled. Not berating you, just curious where you think the shortfall is
I'd agree to a degree. I think rasterisation wise, we're at a point where it's just not as important any more and that's why the focus has gone away. Performance aside, the likes of Ray Tracing has really improve the visual fidelity of games, and has made more of a difference than raw performance has.
@@xavilend I simply don't think we should NEED DLSS or FSR in order to achieve high frame rates. The mighty RTX 4090 can barely play some modern AAA titles at 4K 60 in some cases. That's just not good enough anymore. DLSS and FSR, frame gen etc are nice for enhancing performance, but they are absolutely not as good, not as smooth and simply not the same as pure raster. Real frames will always be better than anything created on the fly with enhancements. Lower latency, less stutters, better visuals, and more powerful graphics processing in general.
@@eTeknix Why do you think rasterization is "not as important" if not for the inclusion of these enhancements? And what point is there in having good ray tracing if a GPU can't run it natively? Nvidia is going to offer it on a card like a 4050 that can barely even run 1080P at 60 FPS in some titles with it turned off... the issue is that things like DLSS and FSR are being used as crutches, not only just enhancements. Even the best GPU's struggle to achieve high frame rates in some titles with things like RT enabled, without the use of either DLSS or FSR, or FG, to that end, I feel raster is just as important as it always was, unless we want to continue to pay more exorbitant prices for less and less actual performance, masked by enhancing AI tech that simply isn't as good as native.
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup "I simply don't think we should NEED DLSS or FSR in order to achieve high frame rates" cool, but it's just a tool, and one I like to use from time to time, it serves a purpose. "The mighty RTX 4090 can barely play some modern AAA titles at 4K 60" Really? I have a 4090 and can't say it struggles. Unless you're factoring in RT and other advanced techniques, which are above and beyond standard raster requirements. "but they are absolutely not as good, not as smooth and simply not the same as pure raster." subjective, but they're better now than they were at launch (DLSS, DLAA, FrameGen) and still improving, again, it's a tool. I typically use DLSS Quality or DLAA, only use frame gen in testing tbh, but I'm sure a good option for some lower GPUs. If we want faster raster, that's easily done, with bigger and more expensive cards, but I love that we're seeing real focus on the underlying technologies and software now, brute force isn't always the right answer.
@@eTeknix Oh absolutely yes! After the awful launch, It has to be the one of the greatest redemption arcs in video game history. So much depth to the story and you can choose from loads of different styles of gameplay combat. Definitely one of those games that you can get lost in.
@@eTeknix Personally I'd go for a higher end Radeon for my build as I don't really care much about ray tracing but I have primarily been an Nvidia user for most of my life and I've loved your channel since the Verge PC reaction. :)
@@pip5528 What reason did you go for Radeon out of interest considering they do lack or fall behind NVIDIA in a lot of technologies? Glad you've been here for a while. We do have a Discord that may interest you too. discord.gg/eTeknix
@@eTeknixWell, I haven't bought one yet but basically price-to-performance for rasterization, good driver support with Adrenaline in Windows and Mesa in Linux, more VRAM than Nvidia at the given price tier, not needing to wait for RDNA 4 and RTX 50 series, etc. I am definitely aware that AMD tends to lag behind Nvidia somewhat but it can be better for the money for certain use cases at least. What I have also noticed is that driver updates tend to improve existing cards. I feel like it's unfair that Radeon hasn't been competitive enough lately and Nvidia has been rather anti-competitive as well as the fact that most people including PC enthusiasts don't really give Radeon cards a fair shake. I don't blame you personally. It's just a rough situation. In any case, a midrange Nvidia or AMD card would certainly be a huge upgrade over my 3050 ti 4 GB laptop GPU.
Glad i choose nvidia over radeon especially the superseries version. I always aim for the superseries since 20series. To me the superseries version seems like better than the regular rtx and glad i waited little bit longer for the superseries and grab as soon as it available. Thumbs up for Nvidia Superseries cards❤
I think it's natural with anything that matures over time. NVIDIA learnt a lot from the process, and was able to increase the performance, and lower the cost. I just can't wait to see what the future brings now.
Tbh ive not used any rtx cards yet to comment on them but my 5700xt has some kind of frame generation and is good enough for what my son plays at 1440p :/
What's the best feature you use on your current graphics card, and what's one feature that you've love to have on your new one?
@@eTeknix DLSS works pretty okay on my 3050 ti 4GB I feel like but I really need more VRAM.
@@pip5528 Definitely. In 2024 4GB is way too little, even 8GB could be argued for newer games. What do you think you'll upgrade to?
@@eTeknixI'm torn between an RX 7900 GRE and something a little higher up. My target is 1440p and I don't feel the need to max every game out even on my existing hardware.
I am in the market for this, very interesting, thanks Andy :)
Definitely check out the links for the INNO3D cards in the description. They’ve got quite a choice.
Is that Titan RTX in background there ? :)
Yeah, good spot. Lovely looking card isn’t it?
Well, it depends. In my opinion in these times for gaming, any GPU that can run the most demanding titles at native 1080p High 60 FPS is the minimum.
The bad part about it is that you need to pay at least more than $400 (Amazon USA has cheap Gigabyte RX 6900 XT) for that performance that will require 100% GPU usage.
With upscaling, you now have the ability to run a lower power usage for the same results and that is pretty impressive overall.
@@eTeknix Yes, that is also my point, but you need a specifc GPU level for that. That would be 4K but at 1080p, but I would like to have 60 FPS at 60-70% GPU usage.
@@eTeknix I actually use DLSS and Frame Gen on hot days on my 4090 😆DLAA on cold days, efficiency is more than just cost, heat is a real battle for my gaming space
@@xavilend You're as bad as me shoving the machine into "Power Saver" whenever I'm not doing something intensive, because it lowers idle CPU usage by ~10W (and idle temp by ~@10°C) 😂
@@squallloire it's been 28c in my home last few days, playing COD the PC was roasting, so frame limit and DLSS made a HUGE difference.
Is this video sponsored ?
What gave it away? 😂
These technologies are great, and they can certainly improve the value preposition, as well as the gaming experience, but we absolutely still need to make more gains in rasterization, so these features have a more firm foundation to build from. We've now normalized upscaling and FG as if we're counting REAL FPS, and that's just not great for the industry.
still need to make more gains in rasterization? To what extent, even mid-range cards are hitting massive FPS in many maintream titles with no further technologies enabled. Not berating you, just curious where you think the shortfall is
I'd agree to a degree. I think rasterisation wise, we're at a point where it's just not as important any more and that's why the focus has gone away. Performance aside, the likes of Ray Tracing has really improve the visual fidelity of games, and has made more of a difference than raw performance has.
@@xavilend I simply don't think we should NEED DLSS or FSR in order to achieve high frame rates. The mighty RTX 4090 can barely play some modern AAA titles at 4K 60 in some cases. That's just not good enough anymore. DLSS and FSR, frame gen etc are nice for enhancing performance, but they are absolutely not as good, not as smooth and simply not the same as pure raster. Real frames will always be better than anything created on the fly with enhancements. Lower latency, less stutters, better visuals, and more powerful graphics processing in general.
@@eTeknix Why do you think rasterization is "not as important" if not for the inclusion of these enhancements? And what point is there in having good ray tracing if a GPU can't run it natively? Nvidia is going to offer it on a card like a 4050 that can barely even run 1080P at 60 FPS in some titles with it turned off... the issue is that things like DLSS and FSR are being used as crutches, not only just enhancements. Even the best GPU's struggle to achieve high frame rates in some titles with things like RT enabled, without the use of either DLSS or FSR, or FG, to that end, I feel raster is just as important as it always was, unless we want to continue to pay more exorbitant prices for less and less actual performance, masked by enhancing AI tech that simply isn't as good as native.
@@AMDRyzenEnthusiastGroup "I simply don't think we should NEED DLSS or FSR in order to achieve high frame rates" cool, but it's just a tool, and one I like to use from time to time, it serves a purpose.
"The mighty RTX 4090 can barely play some modern AAA titles at 4K 60" Really? I have a 4090 and can't say it struggles. Unless you're factoring in RT and other advanced techniques, which are above and beyond standard raster requirements.
"but they are absolutely not as good, not as smooth and simply not the same as pure raster." subjective, but they're better now than they were at launch (DLSS, DLAA, FrameGen) and still improving, again, it's a tool. I typically use DLSS Quality or DLAA, only use frame gen in testing tbh, but I'm sure a good option for some lower GPUs.
If we want faster raster, that's easily done, with bigger and more expensive cards, but I love that we're seeing real focus on the underlying technologies and software now, brute force isn't always the right answer.
Loving the added features we've been getting on rtx
RTX HDR video feature coming up too!
I have the Inno3D 4070ti Super and it hasn't put a foot wrong so far. Plus I love the small form factor
The X2? I still love the white one that they do. It's so clean looking. What resolution you playing at?
@@eTeknixYes it's the X2. I currently run at 1440p and get around 80fps on Cyberpunk RT on
@@hasprey That's decent. I still need to play it more. Never actually completed it. Worth getting back into do you think?
@@eTeknix Oh absolutely yes! After the awful launch, It has to be the one of the greatest redemption arcs in video game history. So much depth to the story and you can choose from loads of different styles of gameplay combat. Definitely one of those games that you can get lost in.
Bias and sponsorship aside, this is a pretty informative video.
Appreciate that. Glad you liked it.
@@eTeknix Personally I'd go for a higher end Radeon for my build as I don't really care much about ray tracing but I have primarily been an Nvidia user for most of my life and I've loved your channel since the Verge PC reaction. :)
@@pip5528 What reason did you go for Radeon out of interest considering they do lack or fall behind NVIDIA in a lot of technologies? Glad you've been here for a while. We do have a Discord that may interest you too. discord.gg/eTeknix
@@eTeknixWell, I haven't bought one yet but basically price-to-performance for rasterization, good driver support with Adrenaline in Windows and Mesa in Linux, more VRAM than Nvidia at the given price tier, not needing to wait for RDNA 4 and RTX 50 series, etc. I am definitely aware that AMD tends to lag behind Nvidia somewhat but it can be better for the money for certain use cases at least. What I have also noticed is that driver updates tend to improve existing cards. I feel like it's unfair that Radeon hasn't been competitive enough lately and Nvidia has been rather anti-competitive as well as the fact that most people including PC enthusiasts don't really give Radeon cards a fair shake. I don't blame you personally. It's just a rough situation. In any case, a midrange Nvidia or AMD card would certainly be a huge upgrade over my 3050 ti 4 GB laptop GPU.
Love my RTX GPU!
Thank you! 😊
You’re welcome.
If you use nvidia software-> nvidia
If you dont use nvidia software -> save your money and buy Radeon
Glad i choose nvidia over radeon especially the superseries version. I always aim for the superseries since 20series. To me the superseries version seems like better than the regular rtx and glad i waited little bit longer for the superseries and grab as soon as it available. Thumbs up for Nvidia Superseries cards❤
I think it's natural with anything that matures over time. NVIDIA learnt a lot from the process, and was able to increase the performance, and lower the cost. I just can't wait to see what the future brings now.
Tbh ive not used any rtx cards yet to comment on them but my 5700xt has some kind of frame generation and is good enough for what my son plays at 1440p :/
What do you think you'll upgrade to in the future?
Wasn't what i thought this video was about.. don't need a 40 series card and have no need for upscaling or rt
Have you tried Ray Tracing?
@@eTeknix yes in multiple games, however, doesn't change my mind, and not a feature i would pay extra for.
@@NulJern Which games have you tried?
@@eTeknix why do you ask?
I've got a 4080 and love it, runs everything I throw at it and I use upscaling pretty much everywhere I can
What resolution you gone for? 4K or lower and higher refresh rate?
@@eTeknix 160hz 4k, complete overkill
@@Kuroi27300 Ha, nice. Think you'll go higher refresh rate at some point, or you happy with that?
@@eTeknix if you have a 4k monitor higher than 160hz to send me then I'll happily go up
@@Kuroi27300 Haha, sadly not :D