it's not just cyber security, it's all jobs, nobody wants to train anymore, even to be a grocery bagger they want you to have 20 years of experience bagging groceries...did you happen to be bagging something else? op! too bad, you're not qualified
@@shafialanower3820 During the pandemic companies where being subsidized to hire employees either through ppp loans or through tax cuts to big business. The current administration has a different vision for the direction of our economy and while it's not a bad direction depending on who you speak to, there are hurdles to fully making the transition on this vision through our legislative branch. Our system of governance is a mess and the risks associated in our modern times are exponentially growing. @Zuranthus is correct, atleast since the 90's but it's coming to a head.
From what I've seen, the security positions come after the IT positions. If you want to be in cybersecurity, then your entry level jobs are the IT positions.
@@Ducksnugetexactly and no seems to pick up on that and also no one is really willing to go into the office to learn the ins and outs faster in person.
When I started my cyber security journey in 2022, people talked a lot about getting into cyber security after a cert or degree. Naive, but doesn’t mean I can’t do it. Taking sec+ tomorrow :)
I got into a junior cybersecrutiy job after getting in touch with a company through reaching the finals of a national CTF (CSCBE). I think trying to get into cybersecurity through getting into the community (CTF's, conventions like cybersic europe, ...) is one of the best possible strategies (next to leveling up your skills)
Hey Grant, I usually don't comment on a lot of UA-cam videos but brother I feel you on this one.. You're leaps and bounds ahead of me in regards to security experience, but with someone coming from cyber sales, you hit the nail on the head. HR is basically looking for an IT Manager that was doing security on the side in their previous role for 5+ years. Junior roles don't exist in cybersecurity.
Im CISSP ISSAP CCSP CRISC CISM with MCSE and 12 yrs of experience. it is really hard to find another job. Once I inherit my dads property I will stop working. it is just madness
I have 1.5 year experience in SOC and 1.5 year in SW Development in Eastern Europe country but I can’t get a position in SOC in Canada))) So I became a system admin…
It seems that it's harder and harder do get a CyberSec job across the whole globe now. I have 2 years as helpdesk technician -> 2 years as helpdesk manager -> 2 years as SOC L1 and see no perspective in getting another SOC job, despite applaying for 20+ positions already. I'll stay 7th year in my current company and try to build a portfolio, maybe get some cert too. Rescheduling my job hunt for the future.
as someone who holds few certs in cyber security such as CND, az 500 and also has a CS degree, I Couldn't get a entry job at all in cyber security I went to help desk for a few months and now I work as a junior network engineer ( somehow I got the opportunity since the company I'm working with wanted to risk on a junior lol ) but hey looking back, I'm in a better position right now, but the time that I spent to break into CS could've been invested elsewhere. I don't regret it ( that how life is ) but If I go back in time I wouldn't do it again
I'm done applying to jobs. I just graduated with 3 years of internship experience in IT , cyber, and PM. After applying to 500 jobs and a couple of phone screens that went nowhere, I'm done with applying. I should have never went to university, I should have just gotten a minimum wage job after high school and tried to work my way up. I cant even get a minimum wage job now, i keep getting rejected even for retail jobs. Now I have 40k students loans hanginging over my head with no way of paying it back.
I feel you brother 5 years of military experience with a fantastic track record here and i cant find shet. Cant even get in an interview to answer technical questions to show i know my stuff. Currently working on my bachellors, but i dont even know if its worth it at this point
I was told that getting in Cybersecurity without prior IT experience in any field is near impossible. I wished I knew this 1 year ago so I could've saved my time and energy. Forget about cybersecurity as your FIRST IT job. Hopefully this comment will save some souls out there.
I wouldn’t tell people to forget about it, my first IT job is cybersecurity so it’s possible just depends on your niche and how you showcase your skills
It’s crazy cause something’s gotta give eventually. I think there will come a time where many aspiring cyber professionals will be weeded out & discouraged from pursuing the industry. Senior level workers will either retire or become scarce. This is a bubble waiting to burst.
Even help desk isn't entry level. You either need experience in help desk or a bunch of certs (A+, Net+, CCNA, ITIL).... You could also get a help desk role by knowing someone or meeting DEI criteria....sadly. The sad reality is that a lot of hiring managers save opportunities to help family/friends get citizenship/immigrate to USA/UK.
Biggest mistake of my life was pursuing a cybersecurity degree due to the overwhelming hype and worst part was how weak the cybersecurity degree was in itself. It was such a niche major with very limited cybersecurity courses and I was too naive too see it
I agree most places information security is a cost for the organization. However, working as a organizations that provides infosec services could be an avenue to get into entry - junior level roles. Orgs attempt to get senior stsff because they expect that person to handle the whole program, which is impossible.
Just shows how ignorant the csuite can be if they think of security as a cost center, it in fact should protect against the loss of revenue which many organizations seem to be incurring as a result of the high risk environment they exist in.
My 24 yr old son gave up trying to break into the cyber field after he graduated with a CS degree. He is working in a Helpdesk role for a contract company.
That's a great place to start. I wasted at least a year looking for the SE role. Then I went with a Tech support role and after a few months got a junior CE role. If he keeps going with certificates (Unfortunately CS degree on its own doesn't give you enough advantage over other candidates ) I believe he can easily move to the desired/related position.
Have your son meet a lot of people in those roles. Don't be a dick it can pay off. My old co-worker got me in my first security role, because I was kind to him. Next step is study there are plenty of sites that provide free resources.
Good video, I definitely do question myself sometimes if I am doing the right thing. I’m working helpdesk right now, picked up certs have been doing labs and projects and have been applying to SOC analyst jobs. Sometimes I wonder if it would be better for me to focus on networking or something, get a job doing that just to get off the helpdesk, then start applying to SOC jobs again after I’ve done that for a year or two. Either way will keep learning and growing, just a question of what topics I should be focusing on.
I was lucky enough, to find a entry level position in pentesting with 4months of on-job-training but with extreme low wages. I am allowing that because I believe you grind now and shine later
Just finished a cyber bootcamp and my recommendation to everyone is to get into an IT support or helpdesk type job. Makes it much easier to transition into cyber afterwards.
I think it varies a fair bit. A lot of people say USA is a bad job market right now. Here in UK it seems a lot more feasible for entry level in comparison
It's simple, companies want record profits and they are not taking out loans in this economy so they are expecting highly experienced employees to do more work for less. Even those senior jobs all have hundreds of applicants because of several years of layoffs, the unemployment numbers are lower then they would be due to record hiring in government, manufacturing, and healthcare for medical professionals. Cyber security jobs will grow quickly in the future because they are desperately needed for the security of our nation but I anticipate that will not occur until the political and economic landscape shifts in one direction or the other. We are living through a highly polarized power struggle with vast differences between future outcomes both in our nation and throughout the world. Ironically that is when we are needed the most but weird times, it's not just hard out there for entry level professionals. It will get worse before it gets better.
Depends. Maybe if your company (assuming you're in the US) is a Fortune200 and offers internships with a high absorption rate, or a coop-to-full time pipeline, then you may be able to snag an entry lvl cybersecurity job after graduating from college with a relevant degree. Or if you're able to work in IT throughout college and get certs, it'll make it easier to land those cybersecurity internships that then lead to a full time offer. However, I imagine its hard to hop into one right out of college without a good internship program or relevant experience. This is all based off my conversations with my hiring manager. And if you don't work some sort of prior IT/Networking job prior, you may be a bit behind in skills compared to your colleagues. Homelabbing, competitions, advanced certs, and a referral could help with that to an extent, I imagine. You have to be a really competitive student, start early, and get really lucky. Not really possible for most people.
The thing is, as you pointed out, cybersecurity isn’t entry level. I see it with my coworkers. Another thing is how “we” brag about job hopping. Training cost and it makes no sense for a company to invest heavily in someone who may leave in 2 years.
You cannot effectively secure what you dont understand - so get experience on the network, applications, operating systems that orgs use - do the grunt work nobody wants to do and do it for low pay if you have to. You need to earn your stripes in the technology field. I ran cables for a year before being allowed to climb onto a switch or router CLI at my first org. If you think you are going to walk into a sexy soc analyst role with high pay - you are deluded, and dont let the youtube IT celebrities convince you that (x) Cert will land you (x) job or (x) amount of $. Nothing worth having in life comes easy.
LOL Your error is assuming those entry level jobs exist now. For any entry level job now you need 4 years exp. And your starting salary will be that of an entry level position someone with no exp at all should get.
@@doraemon402 LOL thats a dum dum statement kiddo, learn where to look, how to network... and stop spending time talking to big-mouths on Discord. Wishing you the best!
Not only in cyber, but also just for software developer jobs. I can't seem to find more than 2 junior or non-senior vacancies open during the entire year. My guess is that those who put up these jobs are not exactly qualified to note down fitting seniority level and, frankly, there are a lot of juniors who are better than seniors and overall that comparison and levels of proficiency being quite loose in terms of factors.
And they say it's a "shortage" in cybersecurity like it's supposed to be easy to get a job or something. When they clearly only want senior security personnel or either choose to pay a complete foreigner from India or something that has a better chance at getting the position then someone who has certifications or bootcamp credentials with no experience.
I just want an entry level security analyst job. Some company that will help teach me more than CTFs and Labs. More real world hands on. We can’t do that until these companies start developing that mindset and programs within.
Yeah, that entry level soc analyst job? That requires knowledge of how an enterprise environment looks when it's operating normally, from within, as a mid to high level administrator. If you put someone just out of school looking at alerts, they will either think everything looks serious and will escalate it, or you will assume everything is fine and ignore something that is actually an incident. You need many, many years of experience as an admin to understand what you're looking at, why it's normal/not normal, and when to escalate. Knowing what can be tuned out, knowing enough to not create blind spots when tuning, and many, many other abstract skills and knowledge that you don't get from sitting and looking at alerts with no context. Your entry level analyst doesn't exist. And even if it did, you will lose it every time to the person who does have a broad knowledge of everything else within a corporate enterprise IT environment. It's not the companies job to teach you what AD is, or why a DC returning RC4 to a client is potentially bad, or actually fine, depending on the context around the auth attempt. You are delusional in thinking the company needs to be the one creating the role, paying you while you take your first toddler steps around trying to learn what literally anything is, and then handholding you through the absolute basics until you're at a point of a barely trained monkey who can push buttons. If you didn't quire notice from the video, Cyber is a COST CENTRE. If it's already a balancing job trying to justify the cost of a cyber department against the potential risk mitigation of hypothetical damage to the business, then what on earth makes you think that that same company is going to drive a program of maintaining a daycare for children just out of school with a functionally useless degree and zero experience? I understand this sounds harsh, but the world is a harsh place. If you want a job in cyber, go become a systems, network, or desktop admin first.
Not trying to discourage or anything but i think it is very hard to become a pen tester in one or 1.5 years (that's what im trying to become as well). Unless you have all the time in a day (don't have work or anything else) then MAYBE, if you focus a lot. Also, I don't know if there are junior pen test positions (might be wrong about this)
Pnpt cert but before you go for that practice thm and htb and study the pen test + . That’s what I’m planning on doing. Try to allocate as much time to it as possible. It’s a long journey man
Cyber Security is sufficiently complex that i honestly dont understand why anyone would expect to be able to walk in off the street and land even an entry level Analyst position. Anyone with that expectation isnt worth hiring. Put your time in working NetOps first and stop thinking youre special
Biggest mistake of my life was pursuing a cybersecurity degree due to the overwhelming hype and worst part was how weak the cybersecurity degree was in itself. It was such a niche major with very limited cybersecurity courses and I was too naive too see it
it's not just cyber security, it's all jobs, nobody wants to train anymore, even to be a grocery bagger they want you to have 20 years of experience bagging groceries...did you happen to be bagging something else? op! too bad, you're not qualified
It had ti have started after pandemic right? I swear even as a student things didn’t seem this drastic before the pandemic
@@shafialanower3820 no, it's been going on for ages, since the 90's, and just keeps getting progressively worse
yes you are right but we can get unpaid internships to brack that barrier of experience
@@shafialanower3820 During the pandemic companies where being subsidized to hire employees either through ppp loans or through tax cuts to big business. The current administration has a different vision for the direction of our economy and while it's not a bad direction depending on who you speak to, there are hurdles to fully making the transition on this vision through our legislative branch. Our system of governance is a mess and the risks associated in our modern times are exponentially growing. @Zuranthus is correct, atleast since the 90's but it's coming to a head.
Right this what I've noticing with these danm jobs it's getting ridiculous
From what I've seen, the security positions come after the IT positions. If you want to be in cybersecurity, then your entry level jobs are the IT positions.
I agree with this 💯
The road seems to be: IT helpdesk --> Network admin --> Cybersecurity.
@@Ducksnuget this is pretty much (at a high level) the path I took.
Yes! totally
@@Ducksnugetexactly and no seems to pick up on that and also no one is really willing to go into the office to learn the ins and outs faster in person.
When I started my cyber security journey in 2022, people talked a lot about getting into cyber security after a cert or degree. Naive, but doesn’t mean I can’t do it. Taking sec+ tomorrow :)
Just passed 701 Sec+. Remember acronyms and baseline of what those acronyms mean.
@@Ducksnuget yea. I printed a sheet of all the acronyms and I’ve been using it the past week :)
Good luck. Don’t be surprised if you can’t get more than a Help Desk position right out of school/cert.
I got into a junior cybersecrutiy job after getting in touch with a company through reaching the finals of a national CTF (CSCBE). I think trying to get into cybersecurity through getting into the community (CTF's, conventions like cybersic europe, ...) is one of the best possible strategies (next to leveling up your skills)
Hey Grant, I usually don't comment on a lot of UA-cam videos but brother I feel you on this one.. You're leaps and bounds ahead of me in regards to security experience, but with someone coming from cyber sales, you hit the nail on the head. HR is basically looking for an IT Manager that was doing security on the side in their previous role for 5+ years. Junior roles don't exist in cybersecurity.
Wow i just got my IT manager position guess that'll be me eventually lol
Im CISSP ISSAP CCSP CRISC CISM with MCSE and 12 yrs of experience. it is really hard to find another job. Once I inherit my dads property I will stop working. it is just madness
Maybe stop listing retired certs lol. Do you put Windows Vista on your resume too?
I have 1.5 year experience in SOC and 1.5 year in SW Development in Eastern Europe country but I can’t get a position in SOC in Canada)))
So I became a system admin…
It seems that it's harder and harder do get a CyberSec job across the whole globe now. I have 2 years as helpdesk technician -> 2 years as helpdesk manager -> 2 years as SOC L1 and see no perspective in getting another SOC job, despite applaying for 20+ positions already. I'll stay 7th year in my current company and try to build a portfolio, maybe get some cert too. Rescheduling my job hunt for the future.
as someone who holds few certs in cyber security such as CND, az 500 and also has a CS degree, I Couldn't get a entry job at all in cyber security
I went to help desk for a few months and now I work as a junior network engineer ( somehow I got the opportunity since the company I'm working with wanted to risk on a junior lol ) but hey looking back, I'm in a better position right now, but the time that I spent to break into CS could've been invested elsewhere.
I don't regret it ( that how life is ) but If I go back in time I wouldn't do it again
I'm done applying to jobs. I just graduated with 3 years of internship experience in IT , cyber, and PM. After applying to 500 jobs and a couple of phone screens that went nowhere, I'm done with applying. I should have never went to university, I should have just gotten a minimum wage job after high school and tried to work my way up. I cant even get a minimum wage job now, i keep getting rejected even for retail jobs. Now I have 40k students loans hanginging over my head with no way of paying it back.
military?
I feel you brother 5 years of military experience with a fantastic track record here and i cant find shet. Cant even get in an interview to answer technical questions to show i know my stuff. Currently working on my bachellors, but i dont even know if its worth it at this point
Like the previous commentor military or it helpdesk or system administrator are your only choices until you can land a cyber job
I was told that getting in Cybersecurity without prior IT experience in any field is near impossible. I wished I knew this 1 year ago so I could've saved my time and energy. Forget about cybersecurity as your FIRST IT job. Hopefully this comment will save some souls out there.
I wouldn’t tell people to forget about it, my first IT job is cybersecurity so it’s possible just depends on your niche and how you showcase your skills
@@fokyewtoob8835 rare case most common case is to transfer from IT to cyber just more practical. Getting your foot in the door is all that matters.
Seems this way not just for cyber but for programming jobs too
It’s crazy cause something’s gotta give eventually. I think there will come a time where many aspiring cyber professionals will be weeded out & discouraged from pursuing the industry. Senior level workers will either retire or become scarce. This is a bubble waiting to burst.
When you talk about cybersecurity jobs what job are you referring to specifically? for example a soc analyst is kinda entry level.
Even help desk isn't entry level. You either need experience in help desk or a bunch of certs (A+, Net+, CCNA, ITIL).... You could also get a help desk role by knowing someone or meeting DEI criteria....sadly. The sad reality is that a lot of hiring managers save opportunities to help family/friends get citizenship/immigrate to USA/UK.
Biggest mistake of my life was pursuing a cybersecurity degree due to the overwhelming hype and worst part was how weak the cybersecurity degree was in itself. It was such a niche major with very limited cybersecurity courses and I was too naive too see it
It also doesn't look good on them ,why aren't they training their junior analysts to become seniors ? Then free the juniors places to new hires ?.
I agree most places information security is a cost for the organization. However, working as a organizations that provides infosec services could be an avenue to get into entry - junior level roles.
Orgs attempt to get senior stsff because they expect that person to handle the whole program, which is impossible.
Just shows how ignorant the csuite can be if they think of security as a cost center, it in fact should protect against the loss of revenue which many organizations seem to be incurring as a result of the high risk environment they exist in.
The challenge is getting the right work experience. Where do I find a nonprofit or small business whom would agree to free cybersecurity services?
My 24 yr old son gave up trying to break into the cyber field after he graduated with a CS degree. He is working in a Helpdesk role for a contract company.
That's a great place to start. I wasted at least a year looking for the SE role. Then I went with a Tech support role and after a few months got a junior CE role. If he keeps going with certificates (Unfortunately CS degree on its own doesn't give you enough advantage over other candidates ) I believe he can easily move to the desired/related position.
Super common
Have your son meet a lot of people in those roles. Don't be a dick it can pay off. My old co-worker got me in my first security role, because I was kind to him. Next step is study there are plenty of sites that provide free resources.
Good video, I definitely do question myself sometimes if I am doing the right thing. I’m working helpdesk right now, picked up certs have been doing labs and projects and have been applying to SOC analyst jobs. Sometimes I wonder if it would be better for me to focus on networking or something, get a job doing that just to get off the helpdesk, then start applying to SOC jobs again after I’ve done that for a year or two. Either way will keep learning and growing, just a question of what topics I should be focusing on.
I was lucky enough, to find a entry level position in pentesting with 4months of on-job-training but with extreme low wages. I am allowing that because I believe you grind now and shine later
Just finished a cyber bootcamp and my recommendation to everyone is to get into an IT support or helpdesk type job. Makes it much easier to transition into cyber afterwards.
It's frustrating, but hopefully, there is an entry-level job out there.
@@gamereditor59ner22 well, I have some experience from Eastern Europe country, but it is not enough to get a position in Canada)
Cybersecurity is not an entry level field.. I think that’s the misconception.
Wait, does this mean all cybersecurity jobs are senior in the whole world or just in first world countries like USA or Canada
I think it varies a fair bit. A lot of people say USA is a bad job market right now. Here in UK it seems a lot more feasible for entry level in comparison
Your post is very interesting! Can you share more details about the situation? What are your next plans?
It's simple, companies want record profits and they are not taking out loans in this economy so they are expecting highly experienced employees to do more work for less. Even those senior jobs all have hundreds of applicants because of several years of layoffs, the unemployment numbers are lower then they would be due to record hiring in government, manufacturing, and healthcare for medical professionals. Cyber security jobs will grow quickly in the future because they are desperately needed for the security of our nation but I anticipate that will not occur until the political and economic landscape shifts in one direction or the other. We are living through a highly polarized power struggle with vast differences between future outcomes both in our nation and throughout the world. Ironically that is when we are needed the most but weird times, it's not just hard out there for entry level professionals. It will get worse before it gets better.
Aha, so, when all the people with experience retire, who is even gonna train the new recruits?
everyone will give up trying to get their first security job then companies will panic haha
Depends. Maybe if your company (assuming you're in the US) is a Fortune200 and offers internships with a high absorption rate, or a coop-to-full time pipeline, then you may be able to snag an entry lvl cybersecurity job after graduating from college with a relevant degree. Or if you're able to work in IT throughout college and get certs, it'll make it easier to land those cybersecurity internships that then lead to a full time offer. However, I imagine its hard to hop into one right out of college without a good internship program or relevant experience. This is all based off my conversations with my hiring manager. And if you don't work some sort of prior IT/Networking job prior, you may be a bit behind in skills compared to your colleagues. Homelabbing, competitions, advanced certs, and a referral could help with that to an extent, I imagine.
You have to be a really competitive student, start early, and get really lucky. Not really possible for most people.
SOC Analyst L1 jobs are entry level. Atleast sometimes.
@@black53342 not in North America
The thing is, as you pointed out, cybersecurity isn’t entry level. I see it with my coworkers. Another thing is how “we” brag about job hopping. Training cost and it makes no sense for a company to invest heavily in someone who may leave in 2 years.
Pay people properly and they won't leave. It's their fault.
@@doraemon402people do leave for reasons other than pay.
then pay people 💀
You cannot effectively secure what you dont understand - so get experience on the network, applications, operating systems that orgs use - do the grunt work nobody wants to do and do it for low pay if you have to. You need to earn your stripes in the technology field. I ran cables for a year before being allowed to climb onto a switch or router CLI at my first org. If you think you are going to walk into a sexy soc analyst role with high pay - you are deluded, and dont let the youtube IT celebrities convince you that (x) Cert will land you (x) job or (x) amount of $. Nothing worth having in life comes easy.
LOL Your error is assuming those entry level jobs exist now. For any entry level job now you need 4 years exp. And your starting salary will be that of an entry level position someone with no exp at all should get.
@@doraemon402 LOL thats a dum dum statement kiddo, learn where to look, how to network... and stop spending time talking to big-mouths on Discord. Wishing you the best!
Dude! I want that desk!
It's pretty much every job. Now that everyone is a Lead Engineer, who are they gonna lead? Let's find that out next year...
Not only in cyber, but also just for software developer jobs. I can't seem to find more than 2 junior or non-senior vacancies open during the entire year. My guess is that those who put up these jobs are not exactly qualified to note down fitting seniority level and, frankly, there are a lot of juniors who are better than seniors and overall that comparison and levels of proficiency being quite loose in terms of factors.
And they say it's a "shortage" in cybersecurity like it's supposed to be easy to get a job or something. When they clearly only want senior security personnel or either choose to pay a complete foreigner from India or something that has a better chance at getting the position then someone who has certifications or bootcamp credentials with no experience.
I just want an entry level security analyst job. Some company that will help teach me more than CTFs and Labs. More real world hands on. We can’t do that until these companies start developing that mindset and programs within.
Yeah, that entry level soc analyst job? That requires knowledge of how an enterprise environment looks when it's operating normally, from within, as a mid to high level administrator. If you put someone just out of school looking at alerts, they will either think everything looks serious and will escalate it, or you will assume everything is fine and ignore something that is actually an incident. You need many, many years of experience as an admin to understand what you're looking at, why it's normal/not normal, and when to escalate. Knowing what can be tuned out, knowing enough to not create blind spots when tuning, and many, many other abstract skills and knowledge that you don't get from sitting and looking at alerts with no context.
Your entry level analyst doesn't exist. And even if it did, you will lose it every time to the person who does have a broad knowledge of everything else within a corporate enterprise IT environment.
It's not the companies job to teach you what AD is, or why a DC returning RC4 to a client is potentially bad, or actually fine, depending on the context around the auth attempt. You are delusional in thinking the company needs to be the one creating the role, paying you while you take your first toddler steps around trying to learn what literally anything is, and then handholding you through the absolute basics until you're at a point of a barely trained monkey who can push buttons. If you didn't quire notice from the video, Cyber is a COST CENTRE. If it's already a balancing job trying to justify the cost of a cyber department against the potential risk mitigation of hypothetical damage to the business, then what on earth makes you think that that same company is going to drive a program of maintaining a daycare for children just out of school with a functionally useless degree and zero experience?
I understand this sounds harsh, but the world is a harsh place. If you want a job in cyber, go become a systems, network, or desktop admin first.
@@TheIsioisi bro chill.
I have a bachelor's degree and over 10 years of System Administration experience and I still can't even land an interview for a Cybersecurity job.
HEY CAN ANYONE PROVIDE ME PROPER ROADMAP TO BECOME PENTESTING TESTER/ ETHICAL HACKER/ SECURITY ANALYST IN AROUND ONE OR 1.5 YEARS
Not trying to discourage or anything but i think it is very hard to become a pen tester in one or 1.5 years (that's what im trying to become as well). Unless you have all the time in a day (don't have work or anything else) then MAYBE, if you focus a lot. Also, I don't know if there are junior pen test positions (might be wrong about this)
Pnpt cert but before you go for that practice thm and htb and study the pen test + . That’s what I’m planning on doing. Try to allocate as much time to it as possible. It’s a long journey man
@@brunohoxha6455there are junior pentest roles although you have to be on the look out for them as they’re not super common but not too rare either
There's 1 Cyber security guy for 20 backend enginers
Companies would rather pay more and not have to train
Did you go to Plainfield North High School in Illinois “white tigers”?
No Vanessa
Is m1 8gb enough to learn and work in cyber security ?
any cheaper thinkpad with higher ram is enough and better option
@@apex195 what's about only 8gb ram ?
@@Bruno.Madrical.3698 not enough for virtualization u will need for pentesting on kali linux
I been trying to enter cyber security for two years now and still no luck. I'm wondering what i have been doing wrong?
Cyber Security is sufficiently complex that i honestly dont understand why anyone would expect to be able to walk in off the street and land even an entry level Analyst position. Anyone with that expectation isnt worth hiring. Put your time in working NetOps first and stop thinking youre special
as a linux admin with over 25 years of experience i can say that security is not and should never be an entry level position.
Then what do I do with 2yoe in software
Biggest mistake of my life was pursuing a cybersecurity degree due to the overwhelming hype and worst part was how weak the cybersecurity degree was in itself. It was such a niche major with very limited cybersecurity courses and I was too naive too see it