Thanks for your post. According to family tradition, ancestors on my mother's side immigrated to Lancaster County, PA from Germany. I'm told they were called Pennsylvania Dutch. I am proud of the humble legacy they left behind.
I am Pennsylvania Dutch, left to chase my husband’s career. But when it came to settle to buy a house, moved back to buy a farm. We are Lutheran. Humility has always been part of our life. My husband got a good job in a large city. He has two sets of clothes, that for work and that for home. His co-workers are shocked on how we live, the ones he has told. Most he has not. Our life is simple. Our home is not fancy, nor do we spend money on frivolous things. When it comes to religion.silence is best. We pray everyday and God is the center of our lives, most secular people (that’s what we call them) do not relate to us. It’s wonderful when folks visit our farm, they always come back...but don’t ask me to visit them back, I’ve tried being in a city and it’s just not for me.
My Great Grandpa was Pennsylvania Dutch and handed down the simplicity of living to my Grandma and she down to me! He had left the community I think when he met my Great Grandma! When you live simply out here people make fun of you they think you’re poor but really you are not! They just don’t understand!
imra316 my grandfather always used to tell me when I was a kid that he was Pennsylvania Dutch and I never knew what it meant. He has passed away a good few years ago now so I’ve never gotten a chance to ask him more about what that meant. That’s how I stumbled upon this video. I’m guessing my family history must be similar to yours in the sense that someone in my family must’ve left that way of life to marry somebody that was not Pennsylvania Dutch. I did find this video a bit disappointing though when it came to explaining more about the history of these people. I want to know where in Germany they came from and what kind of roots they had. If you know of any good videos on UA-cam I’d love the heads up. Thanks!
I'm Pennsylvania Dutch because of my grandma Schuck on my mom's side. My mom's mom. I never knew too much about it. I'm glad there's videos about Pennsylvania Dutch I don't think they're learned about enough.
My great grandma was an Amish Pennsylvania Dutch, she ran away from that life though after her parents died and she was raised by her abusive uncle. She did teach my grandma some of that culture, and foods like scrapple that she passed on to me. Very cool to see this.
The guy they interview is not Amish or Mennonite. He is Old German Baptist, part the Schwarzenau Brethren. They dress a little like the Amish, but most of them drive cars except for the very conservative Old Order German Baptists.
Unrelated but It was a German Quaker the founder of German town phila.that wrote the first petition against slavery. Vincent Pistorius unfortunately I only there there is a school named after him. Just one of the many (more than anyone else) things the Germans did first
This confused me so much, it is about PA Dutch, everything is about German... Dutch is not German. DUTCH is how Diets was translated to English, Diets meaning Netherlands (Nederlands)..
Please excuse any ignorance I might have. I am not PA Dutch, but have lived around the "fancy" PA Dutch all my life. I have a question. Why do the "plain" Dutch, and the Fancy Dutch (I have noticed) not like people learning music for example? At the end of the documentary there are obviously accomplished musicians playing German music. Without spending a significant amount of time in their life learning their instrument, they would not be able to play as well as the documentary shows. It seems to contradict the fact that they (seem to) not believe in learning anything beyond what would be practical as agrarians.Why not learn the German music that exalts God? Bach, for example, wrote volumes and volumes of religious music. Again I'm very ignorant about this whole culture so please excuse me if I'm incorrect about anything. I understand Bach existed after the PA Dutch came here. So....? But why the resistance towards any of the arts, when a lot of art can exalt God? I myself am a musician and have spent a lot of my time working on classical music in my life and one thing I noticed when I was growing up was that even among the the "fancy" Pennsylvania Dutch they seem to have almost a disdain for anything intellectual or creative. I never understood that. I never understood why, even though they (the "fancy" ones) are not part of a closed culture they still seem to have that way of thinking. As a child growing up around fancy Pennsylvania Dutch people I noticed a distinct dislike toward me because I was involved in these things and I never understood why. Right now I'm I'm dating a Pennsylvania Dutch man and while I noticed he does have appreciation for music ( I know I am over generalizing actually), he doesn't seem to like any new ideas or to think about anything that's not practical. I've noticed these people in general, some of them having been my friends and neighbors, are very very practical, very efficient, very neat, very physical. But they do not like to go into any nonphysical realm or way of thinking. Throughout my life I have sometimes had a lot of negativity from some of these people because of the way I am. I never acted haughty or like I was better than anyone else. I've always been very shy and and humble actually. So I don't understand why some of them dislike me or dislike that part of myself. I am wondering if someone can explain that to me when it comes to the the fancy Pennsylvania Dutch in particular. Perhaps someone can explain this from maybe a historical perspective?
You asked too many questions... by the way in German "Deutsch" means German but to an English person it sounds like Dutch. So that might explain " At the end of the documentary there are obviously accomplished musicians playing German music. "
First of all, the largest group of Fancy Dutch are Lutheran, just like Bach. We do have a strong musical tradition, including church organs, etc. In my area, there were also a lot of town bands. I played in one. The Reformed are part of the Calvinist tradition, like Presbyterians, which tend to be more restrained in the arts, but that varies from place to place. Many churches in my area had "Union" in the name, meaning it was built by two congregations who shared it, usually a Lutheran and a Reformed group, and in those cases, I think the Lutheran musical tradiition sort of bled over. As for the wariness of new ideas, look at the red states, without a German population. They are all very much of the If it ain;t broke, don't fixi it type. For most of history, if you changed things and it did not work out, you were screwed. Let someone else chase new ideas, and after they have worked all of the bugs out, then you can adopt them.
Their grandparents would have heard something similar to that when they were growing up. There was a lot of anti-German sentiment and many people stopped speaking German altogether to try and fit in. Today, all of them speak English. I don't know a single Amish person that doesn't speak English when around English speakers. They only speak their language around other Amish or in communication with other Amish.
Sadly he is right my grandparents never taught my mom uncle and aunt pa dutch so it is being lost. Although they can understand it my generation can't.
2/3 of the pa deutch are fancy deutch, and one of the two pictures of the fancy deutch is in is in barroom... sheesh. The larger group of plain deutch is the mennonites, who gets all the publicity...The Amish..... and he does not even pronounce the word Amish right. The Brethren (Church of the Brethren) get only honorable mention. It would be very entertaining to watch a film about Pa Deutch culture. Unfortunately, this film is not really about pa deutch culture.
Don Maurer Ya, I like the language (Mudderschprooch), Pennsylvania Dutch (Pennsylfaanisch Deitsch). The Amish are some of the only people around that still speak it.
Some of the Plain Dutch do use electricity, but only in their barns. Rejection of technology is based more on the effects of pride and greed. In my childhood, our doctor was a member of a group called the River Brethren. Because he was a doctor, they made an exception and allowed him to have a car, but it could not have any chrome. (My father was amused because he had a bright green John Deere riding lawn mower.
James Horn Pride and greed? I don't know. The River Brethren, that sounds like mei grandfather's familie. They were not Amish but they were part of some religious group which had a custom where each kin got a biblical naame. Levi Strope, that was my grandfather's name. He always said that people upon seeing his name thought that he was Jewish.
This is a very strange film and not particularly accurate. For one thing, the narrator doesn't even know how to pronounce Amish! And the guy dressed like an Amish farmer almost certainly isn't - or else he's remarkably assimilated in his speech and attitudes!
The guy they interviewed is part of the Old German Baptist movement. I can tell by his clothing. They dress similar to the Amish, but they're actually very modern, except for the conservative Old Order German Baptists who still use horse and buggy.
I spent two years working in Pennsylvania I was so glad when I left Pennsylvania is one of the worst states I've ever been to and I've been too well all the states in the u.s.
Thanks for your post. According to family tradition, ancestors on my mother's side immigrated to Lancaster County, PA from Germany. I'm told they were called Pennsylvania Dutch. I am proud of the humble legacy they left behind.
I am Pennsylvania Dutch, left to chase my husband’s career. But when it came to settle to buy a house, moved back to buy a farm. We are Lutheran. Humility has always been part of our life. My husband got a good job in a large city. He has two sets of clothes, that for work and that for home. His co-workers are shocked on how we live, the ones he has told. Most he has not. Our life is simple. Our home is not fancy, nor do we spend money on frivolous things. When it comes to religion.silence is best. We pray everyday and God is the center of our lives, most secular people (that’s what we call them) do not relate to us. It’s wonderful when folks visit our farm, they always come back...but don’t ask me to visit them back, I’ve tried being in a city and it’s just not for me.
The simple life. No zanex, no tranquilizers. Kids don’t kill other kids for their sneakers.
Good people.
Guti Leute.
I love all people who just want to be left alone, and don't want anything from me.
amen
So you are autistic?
My Great Grandpa was Pennsylvania Dutch and handed down the simplicity of living to my Grandma and she down to me! He had left the community I think when he met my Great Grandma! When you live simply out here people make fun of you they think you’re poor but really you are not! They just don’t understand!
imra316 my grandfather always used to tell me when I was a kid that he was Pennsylvania Dutch and I never knew what it meant. He has passed away a good few years ago now so I’ve never gotten a chance to ask him more about what that meant. That’s how I stumbled upon this video. I’m guessing my family history must be similar to yours in the sense that someone in my family must’ve left that way of life to marry somebody that was not Pennsylvania Dutch. I did find this video a bit disappointing though when it came to explaining more about the history of these people. I want to know where in Germany they came from and what kind of roots they had. If you know of any good videos on UA-cam I’d love the heads up. Thanks!
I'm Pennsylvania Dutch because of my grandma Schuck on my mom's side. My mom's mom. I never knew too much about it. I'm glad there's videos about Pennsylvania Dutch I don't think they're learned about enough.
My great grandma was an Amish Pennsylvania Dutch, she ran away from that life though after her parents died and she was raised by her abusive uncle. She did teach my grandma some of that culture, and foods like scrapple that she passed on to me. Very cool to see this.
@Derek Chauvin No, German
@Derek Chauvin Yes, I can trace ancestry back to the 1700’s in Hunsrück and Würrtemburg, Germany. 😊
Just finding about my Pennsylvania Dutch history and my German history today
im trying to learn my family history
At 14:27, that looks like the ORIGINAL Harrisburg Fire Show. Before going to The Farm Show Complex, it was held at Dutch Wonderland.
The guy they interview is not Amish or Mennonite. He is Old German Baptist, part the Schwarzenau Brethren. They dress a little like the Amish, but most of them drive cars except for the very conservative Old Order German Baptists.
Unrelated but It was a German Quaker the founder of German town phila.that wrote the first petition against slavery. Vincent Pistorius unfortunately I only there there is a school named after him. Just one of the many (more than anyone else) things the Germans did first
Very interesting! What is the name of the sect at 3:09?
Somebody know, when this documentory was made?
This did not have much info about PA Dutch...
Is this from the 60s or 70d documentary
Early 1980s.
I guess my family was fancy cause they left PA an went to STL
3:25……. Haus wie in der heimat😄
This confused me so much, it is about PA Dutch, everything is about German... Dutch is not German. DUTCH is how Diets was translated to English, Diets meaning Netherlands (Nederlands)..
Please excuse any ignorance I might have. I am not PA Dutch, but have lived around the "fancy" PA Dutch all my life. I have a question. Why do the "plain" Dutch, and the Fancy Dutch (I have noticed) not like people learning music for example? At the end of the documentary there are obviously accomplished musicians playing German music. Without spending a significant amount of time in their life learning their instrument, they would not be able to play as well as the documentary shows. It seems to contradict the fact that they (seem to) not believe in learning anything beyond what would be practical as agrarians.Why not learn the German music that exalts God? Bach, for example, wrote volumes and volumes of religious music. Again I'm very ignorant about this whole culture so please excuse me if I'm incorrect about anything. I understand Bach existed after the PA Dutch came here. So....? But why the resistance towards any of the arts, when a lot of art can exalt God? I myself am a musician and have spent a lot of my time working on classical music in my life and one thing I noticed when I was growing up was that even among the the "fancy" Pennsylvania Dutch they seem to have almost a disdain for anything intellectual or creative. I never understood that. I never understood why, even though they (the "fancy" ones) are not part of a closed culture they still seem to have that way of thinking. As a child growing up around fancy Pennsylvania Dutch people I noticed a distinct dislike toward me because I was involved in these things and I never understood why. Right now I'm I'm dating a Pennsylvania Dutch man and while I noticed he does have appreciation for music ( I know I am over generalizing actually), he doesn't seem to like any new ideas or to think about anything that's not practical. I've noticed these people in general, some of them having been my friends and neighbors, are very very practical, very efficient, very neat, very physical. But they do not like to go into any nonphysical realm or way of thinking. Throughout my life I have sometimes had a lot of negativity from some of these people because of the way I am. I never acted haughty or like I was better than anyone else. I've always been very shy and and humble actually. So I don't understand why some of them dislike me or dislike that part of myself. I am wondering if someone can explain that to me when it comes to the the fancy Pennsylvania Dutch in particular. Perhaps someone can explain this from maybe a historical perspective?
You asked too many questions... by the way in German "Deutsch" means German but to an English person it sounds like Dutch. So that might explain " At the end of the documentary there are obviously accomplished musicians playing German music. "
First of all, the largest group of Fancy Dutch are Lutheran, just like Bach. We do have a strong musical tradition, including church organs, etc. In my area, there were also a lot of town bands. I played in one. The Reformed are part of the Calvinist tradition, like Presbyterians, which tend to be more restrained in the arts, but that varies from place to place. Many churches in my area had "Union" in the name, meaning it was built by two congregations who shared it, usually a Lutheran and a Reformed group, and in those cases, I think the Lutheran musical tradiition sort of bled over. As for the wariness of new ideas, look at the red states, without a German population. They are all very much of the If it ain;t broke, don't fixi it type. For most of history, if you changed things and it did not work out, you were screwed. Let someone else chase new ideas, and after they have worked all of the bugs out, then you can adopt them.
I bet nobody is saying “speak English! You’re in America”
Their grandparents would have heard something similar to that when they were growing up. There was a lot of anti-German sentiment and many people stopped speaking German altogether to try and fit in. Today, all of them speak English. I don't know a single Amish person that doesn't speak English when around English speakers. They only speak their language around other Amish or in communication with other Amish.
Sadly he is right my grandparents never taught my mom uncle and aunt pa dutch so it is being lost. Although they can understand it my generation can't.
I can see the modern road.
morison andoor yea they live pretty close to other ppl .I've seen them passing by in their horse and buggy going home to Philadelphia
I admire the Amish
Thank you so much. I thought the Pennsylvania Dutch are actually, people from Netherlands.
They are
@@blackboxbs8642 no they're not.
2/3 of the pa deutch are fancy deutch, and one of the two pictures of the fancy deutch is in is in barroom... sheesh. The larger group of plain deutch is the mennonites, who gets all the publicity...The Amish..... and he does not even pronounce the word Amish right. The Brethren (Church of the Brethren) get only honorable mention. It would be very entertaining to watch a film about Pa Deutch culture. Unfortunately, this film is not really about pa deutch culture.
Don Maurer
Ya, I like the language (Mudderschprooch), Pennsylvania Dutch (Pennsylfaanisch Deitsch). The Amish are some of the only people around that still speak it.
I'm not a big fan of their puppy mills.
If it ain't Dutch, it ain't much!
Some of the Plain Dutch do use electricity, but only in their barns. Rejection of technology is based more on the effects of pride and greed. In my childhood, our doctor was a member of a group called the River Brethren. Because he was a doctor, they made an exception and allowed him to have a car, but it could not have any chrome. (My father was amused because he had a bright green John Deere riding lawn mower.
James Horn
Pride and greed? I don't know. The River Brethren, that sounds like mei grandfather's familie. They were not Amish but they were part of some religious group which had a custom where each kin got a biblical naame. Levi Strope, that was my grandfather's name. He always said that people upon seeing his name thought that he was Jewish.
@@jimstrope701 The rejection of certain possessions as expressions of pride, or of inspiriing envy in others.
James Horn
Ya, I guess that's what they thought of me. They went and threw me out of their website. Who
needs it!
This is a very strange film and not particularly accurate. For one thing, the narrator doesn't even know how to pronounce Amish! And the guy dressed like an Amish farmer almost certainly isn't - or else he's remarkably assimilated in his speech and attitudes!
And wearing buttons
The guy they interviewed is part of the Old German Baptist movement. I can tell by his clothing. They dress similar to the Amish, but they're actually very modern, except for the conservative Old Order German Baptists who still use horse and buggy.
That teacher is arrogant. And, uninformed.
jpstenino why do you feel that way?
I spent two years working in Pennsylvania I was so glad when I left Pennsylvania is one of the worst states I've ever been to and I've been too well all the states in the u.s.
So that was YOU we saw leaving that day and not looking back! Now we know! LoL
Good. We don't want you here either.