HOT TENT FAILURE // Solo Winter Camping
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If you're looking to get a hot tent, your chimney struggles do not need to be as bad as mine. The key is to roll it up in a warm environment (WAY EASIER!), have someone help you and maybe use a pvc pipe if you have one around, then assemble the whole stove and burn some would in it to do a "burn in". Once you do that initial burn in for 30-60min, the chimney will remember it's shape the next time you go to assemble it, even if it is cold. I managed to do this properly with my firts stove, but didn't realize how tough it would be to assemble the chimney when it's cold out. Lesson learned!
Great advice Justin! Are you saying you tried doing your initial burning in this video? Thanks for not always being perfect but learning along the way and paving the way for others!
@@ryanl7564 you rolled the chimney on the wrong side , you have to roll it over the length side
@@jhontheunsleep ? I don't own a hot tent
Justin… your videos are some of the best out there! I am a therapist and a backpacker too, so I especially appreciate how you help normalize emotional struggles in the trail (life). The music was great too! 😎
Lessons learned, folks , for those that might NOT try hot tenting after watching this. Keep in mind, it’s essential to have help initially rolling the chimney pipe, then it’s also crucial to burn it in, meaning burn the stove and chimney pipe. For a couple hours. After that the pipe will keep its shape when unrolled. It’s also important to initially burn the stove in a well ventilated area to burn off manufacturing oil. Hot tenting is a blast ! Just do it correctly ! Cheers
Oh dang dude! Rolling a sheet of titanium when it’s cold is mega difficult. Kudos for going for it, and sharing the experience. I’ll never get over the scenery in your trip videos!
Da man!!!! Been subbed to you for a couple of years or so....... Great Content. Thanks.
The sped up part of you flattening down a spot was adorable. Also well done on general. I don't cold weather camp anymore but I used to specifically because it was beautiful and serene. I just can't handle the cold like I used to. I will live vicariously through you.
Man your honesty is to be cherished. The ego in the camp scene is getting to be much so this humbling stuff is nice to see
I"m really surprised that the lith batt in the pump actually inflated your pad. Neat blog, you look so relaxed and confident... expected, I guess. Thanks!
There are a ton of Hot Tent videos out there but very few, if any, Hot Tent screw-up videos. Seeing a video where things go wrong is just as important as seeing a video on when they go right. I'll remember this video the next time I winter hot tent..... well I guess I need a stove first. ;-) ....I do have that same exact tipi tent though. I think it's a great cheap winter tent. Keep on trekking Justin!! :-)
I appreciate your winter videos a lot. I live in Texas, and I've been hesitant to camp during even the tame winters here, until I saw you going out in the Canadian winters. Properly equipped, the outdoors can be enjoyed year-round. Thanks for giving me that courage!
I am so glad I went with the Kni-co and their pipe sections rather than try to roll those things up. No thank! Great vid
Yea, I’d love to see a minimalist trip with only the bare necessities.
Hey! I watch your equipment reviews with interest. They are very helpful to choose. As far as I understand, you are from Canada. I live in Russia. Natural conditions of our countries are similar. I recently began using a wood-burning stove in a tent. Previously, I used a warm down sleeping bag and slept without a furnace. That's what I understood. sleep better without a stove. The stove is useful to prepare food inside the tent, warm and dry clothes. I also want to say about the smoke tube. Folding titanium stoves produced in Russia are equipped with a pipe from Permalloy. This is an alloy of nickel and iron. Although such pipes are a bit harder than titanium, they are much stronger and are not subject to jamming. Also, the diameter of these pipes is more - almost 80 mm. They are not so easily clogged with tar with long-term operation. I also want to say about Kerosene. This fuel is much more convenient in a heavy frost than gas. I do not really like gasoline burners working under pressure. They are noisy and potentially dangerous. Kerosen wick burner Kerogaz - very interesting device. Easy, collapsible, silent, reliable and powerful. Especially good to cook potatoes on such burner. An insignificant amount of kerosene's residual vapors give potatoes an amazing flavor. It is known that it is done even in Michelin-level restaurants.
Thanks Justin. As a long-time (read "old") winter camper I've never tried hot tenting. Seems like a lot of weight and work for a not much better experience. But if you're going to do it I'm told you should have an emergency plan in case your tent catches fire at night. That means keeping some clothes and warmth gear outside the tent in case the worst happens. Submitted for what its worth.
Thanks for being real
I just watched you video and it was great. I don’t know if any one has mentioned this or not but you need to get a pool noodle and wrap it around it long ways and use the fitting rings around the chimney, burn it in and hopefully it will work correctly but you roll it up short ways. They have videos of it all over Utube. Keep up the great work.
That chimney lol 😂 It’s cool good video
Your life seems so perfect. I know I'm on the outside looking in but you still seem to have everything so together. Maybe it's the scenery, maybe it's your backcountry skills, maybe it's your relationship, maybe it's just your positive demeanor...it's probably a bit of all of it. I can't help but look up to you. I wish my life was in such good shape. I'll just have to keep striving to be better and move the needle as you say.
A good stove is the one that has actual chimney tube . It's just heavy .
Great video. Your humility is refreshing. I have learned so much from my mistakes and failures. The way I see it- if you’re not having failures, you’re not trying. It’s all a learning experience. Keep doing what you’re doing Justine!
Great video! I watch videos like this to learn and to get ideas. Sterile promotional videos for products don’t teach us anything. Thanks for getting out there and documenting a real winter camping experience 🙏😎👍
I have a hot tent/stove, very high quality ones. But I agree that it's more trouble than it's worth, especially when it's really cold. Better to just bring really warm camp clothes and sleep system than to mess around setting up the stove and processing wood and trying to keep it going. Definitely do not rely on it to keep you from freezing.
Wow, Justin, you nailed it again!! Such a wonderfully produced video with that honest reflection you are coming to be known for. Keep up the great work! ❤️
Next weekend will be my first snow camping trip of the year.
Can’t wait!
Thanks for bringing us along Justin!
“Nice and warm”… at -6C!! 😂 This Australian would not use those words, hah! Looks so beautiful though!
So good to see that you too is just a human loving the outdoors and making mistakes along the way. And the best part is that you choose to share your experience with us. Kudos, Justin! I feel that this is what makes you and your videoes so enthralling to watch. I am so fed up with men/women in camo "knowing it all" and always doing it "the right way". Keep up the good work, Justin 😊
Two people putting the pipe together and using something like a PVC pipe to roll it up around helps. Always do things at home first like you said. Great lesson for viewers to understand that the proper sleep system fir the temperatures is a must. You’re building a great winter system with shelters, ski-shoes, stoves, sleep systems and all.
I learned a long time ago..buy the warmest sleeping bag you can get I use a marmot cwm -40
You could have chosen not to include your mistakes… but you did. You have my respect. It’s also a great teaching tool like you said.
Great video, glad you posted this. Its a good thing to learn from! I am thinking of getting the same stove so Im glad I know what could potentially happen.
Good information and your honesty earns my subscription
Awesome adventure 👍 For new stove pipe to roll properly, you'll need 2 people and a couple pool noodles or pvc pipe. Once you do a couple burns,it will keep its memory and easier to roll out next time out. Thanks for the share 👊 💥
Absolutely agreed. Patience, a perfectly flat surface, a pair of helping hands, a long pipe or broomstick, just to get the initial roll going. Once you have burnt some memory into the titanium, its a breeze. And just remember...patience!!! Every little kink or blemish you put into the titanium, will stay - forever!!
You are the most honest contributor to UA-cam I’ve found 👍
I think it’s really important for more experienced hikers to show the trips that aren’t perfect. Only showing the perfect days sets an unrealistic expectation.
Great video Justin. The more and more I see those skis I want them. Just can’t stomach the cost at the moment. Thanks again
Great video, love the lessons learned. We all learn from our mistakes, I have definitely made a few.
Man you look happy in the winter wonderland Justin I can truly say I am envious of your life style. Good on you live and learn that's what I always say!
I teach Search and Rescue to volunteers and police. One of my things is " I have made mistakes and I share them so you can learn from them and then just make your own and not repeat mine". It cuts down on the number for them and speeds up the learning.
Oooh have been waiting for this! Love the winter camping videos, learn a lot from them. Curious about the tent itself, too.
I had a failure once too....
look into lightweight stacking stove pipes. the titanium roll types are hard to put together in the cold and there are more things you can lose in the snow.
if you can stack stove pipes, it's much easier to set up
Unfortunately a lot bulkier though
What movie did you watch ? “Happy People: A Year in the Taiga” ? Lol. I guess you don’t need snowy scenes to fantasize about the snow
Great, informative videos on what and what not to do when winter camping
Cheers
I think I watched Edge of Tomorrow! haha
When camping in the Ardennes, Sauerland, or Austria,we never heated at night...only a few times we brought a kerosene heater with us...its dark early...
I made the exact same mistake (1 year ago). Luckily it wasn't quiiiite as mangled and I could still use it (plus I tested it close to my cottage in case something didn't work out). I was able to somewhat fix later with a spoon and pressing on all the wrinkled areas. It is much better now.
Good show thanks
If you roll it proper for the first burn in the pipe easily pops back into shape for each future use.
ya, I have done that correctly with other stoves and no problems. Just didn't realize how impossible titanium is to roll when cold!
"Hopefully I don't asphixiate." Camping Wisdom 101. ;-)
Thanks for the video. I just started my camping channel and I am planning my first winter camping trip. It's refreshing that you admit some mistakes on your trips. I have never tried a hot tent but I would have a few mistakes along the way for sure. I show my mistakes on my channel, and I make a lot of mistakes 😃 Keep up the goo work!
You probably picked the worst hot tent stove available Justin nice video
I follow “holy moment” Eric Normark in Sweden. He uses a sledge.. looks a lot easier for hauling luggage on skis.
It's really tough in the Canadian Rockies to use a sled/pulk/sledge due to the rolling terrain and tight maneuvering required. I wish it was a possibility as it does look a lot easier!
"nice and warm -6" hahahha
Right on , keep the hot tent going
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Watched all of it
#1 ALWAYS test your equipment before your trip.
You did just fine. Glad you did not get too wrapped up in the frustration that you did some thing wrong. You went out and followed Plan A and Plan B. And you got home. I carry 3 stoves, gas,liquid,wood. All depends on the weather and temp. Ya Did Good. Nice Location.
I mangled my stove pipe also. I’m so disappointed, tried to smooth out the wrinkles but no luck.
Update: bought a new stove pipe, YT “how to roll a stove pipe” and it’s perfect
Great and honest video Justin. Thanks for uploading!
You can seal gaps in a stove pipe while in the field with high temperature flue HVAC tape.
Honesty is the best policy. Great set up. I'm thinking about a hot tent but mainly for back packing. I found a light weight unit. Have you or can you do a review on your skis. I'm looking to upgrade and I assume your system allows a hiking boot and not a specific skis boot. Your videos are great, top of list for info for me. Carry on!
I'll be doing a "First Look" of the skis soon! You can use them with any old hiking boot.
Makes my 62-degree living room seem right toasty!
Awesome landscapes of Canadian Rocky Mountains. Looks a lot like Alberta... Between Banff and Jasper. You shared the importance factors regarding practice and familiarity... as well as skill-sets, location, duration, proven suitable gear selection... as well as trappings of gear reliance paired with poor gear selections. On this outing, you had sort of a 'triple whammy' concerning 1.) unfamiliarity with 2.) unproven 'kinda junk' gear selection on tent and stove plus 3.) potential over-reliance on tent and stove combo. The good aspect is your sleeping bag, pad, groundsheet, other gear selections, duration, and favorable weather made the difference.
To confirm or dispel your concerns with asphyxiating in a tent with the stove burning all night, you should put a CO meter in a tent and keep the stove fed all night. My guess that that a floorless tent with a vent hole using a small stove won't approach anything near danger levels. I've used an old GoLite ShangriLa 3 with a stove larger than that all night with no issues. The inside of the tent never fell below 55 F with the outside being as low as minus 5 F. Floorless tents are made to be watertight from above. They're not airtight at all.
Never understood why the chimney flap rolls UP as opposed to DOWN. I'd prefer a detachable one.
thanks for sharing what you learned with us. looks like you had fun. :)
Part.of your issue may just be that you didn't do a "burn in". I know people who use hot tents in Sweden in winter and part of the thing with a hot tent is to sent it up and do a burn in before you hit the field. This way all the parts get hot, and adapt to that, in a safe environment. Then when you take it to the field it's broken in. Think of the burn in like breaking in boots
100% that I didn't do a burn in. I have a couple other stove where I did a proper burn in and had no problems :)
Looks beautiful out there in the snow 🤙
Hello Justin, I have been checking out hot tents since the early winter of 2019. I watched a lot of videos about hot tents. It seems to be a common theme with them. Fun to have but a lot of work. The chimney seems the most common negative issue. Thanks for sharing your experience with your hot tent. Take Care and Keep Exploring The Outdoors.
Once you get it rolled the first time and burned in, it's super easy to roll after. But that first roll is hard, and impossible in cold.
Appreciate your openness in this video. Also digging that Thermarest pad raiser deal...checking that out asap.
Great film as always, also a mistake is only a mistake if you don't learn from it and repeat it again.
To be fair, I did mangle another stove pipe on a trip due to the cold... But I didn't realize at the time that it was likely due to the cold. Can't fool me thrice!
6:15 just add that snow debris to your food and drink. God made dirt and dirt don’t hurt!
Damn...that snow looks awesome 😍
You have your work cut out to try get that pipe straight. Those pipes need to be done as close to perfect as you can then burn them in with a good hot fire, after that they are all set. Still not easy when its cold though. I had my 16 man tipi set up on a lake and at 2am a wind hit us and folded the stovepipe and tipi down on us and the hot stove. Melting the tipi man what a mess. So it just a matter of time and everyone has a failure.
It’s too cold in Canada brrrr 🇨🇦
I made the mongar 2 with the attachable vestibule a hot tent it's amazing haha
Knowing u had to do that log crossing twice 😵.. I really like the chair sleeping bag adaption too
I did not make it back the second time. haha
The trekker chair kit is AMAZING! I love it :)
Maybe it would be simple to DIY something like that 🤔
@@kke I guess you could. It’s not a complicated designed. But the trekker chair is pretty affordable. It might cost you just as much to make it.
@@OutdoorTherapy2020 True. The Sea 2 Summit version though is something like $60, I got their pad so not sure if the thermarest trekker fits. (it's under $40)
@@kke I believe the trekker chair comes in two size 21 and 25 inches wide. To fit a regular or wide pad. So if your Pad fits one of the two it should work
@@OutdoorTherapy2020 Yeah need to check. The sea 2 summit's version says it fits all their sleeping pads, one size fits all.
Yep definitely need to roll your stove pipe at home and burn it all in before using it in the field.
Love the hat and the video! Got a link? Thanks!
Check out my winter hiking gear video :)
Yeah the first roll on those rolled stove pipe suck ass especially alone and cold lol a controlled first burn at home is the lesson I myself learned , lol good show
warm he says, while it's snowing. 😅
It was! Relatively. haha
Hi Justin, man...you publish videos at a very high rate. Well done. May I ask, I assume you have someone doing your editing for you? Also, your video color is very vibrant. Is that achieved in editing, or do you just have a particular camera? I'm enjoying your channel, so thanks.
I edit all my own videos :). Some of the color is in post, some is just good lighting.
@@JustinOutdoors wow, impressive! I assume then this is a full time gig for you? That's pretty awesome I have to admit. Well done. :)
Justin, great video. That foil mat at base of the sleep system. What is the brand? Thanks
No brand, just generic Aliexpress gear - geni.us/ReflectiveMat
Good video! Well, I guess this was your shake down trip so think of it that way. At least you didn't have others that depended on you. Mountain climbers don't bring a hot tent and they are in extreme cold at times. Seems to be a fad now since the invention of ultra light chimney pipe. Also, there is a lot you can do with a campfire or portable twig stove.
Great video! 2 questions please. What type of shovel are you using on the picnic table? And what pegs are you using to secure the tent? I have a liteoutdoors Plateau 5 tent, and I use the aluminum "Y" shaped pegs. I haven't winter camped with it yet, and wasn't confident the pegs would hold?
Snowclaw shovel (link in video description). Generic snow tent stakes.
Hi from Spain, do you have a special skies? I see you put a normal boot of trekking in a automatic "click" in your ski?
Or is a snowboard "click" for to put your boots?
Or...maybe a special boots for the ski?
Thanks
Just a normal boot!
Thanks for your honesty. Where are you located in this video
Mosquito Creek :)
Carbon monoxide is a silent killer. Always have a CO detector when using a wood stove inside a tent, regardless of how well it is ventilated.
Thanks for the video Justin. I had the exact same problem with the chimney, as I am sure many other have had trying to roll it out. Did you manage to get the chimney into shape again since your trip? Mine in still crinkled and I struggle to make a perfect cylindrical shape with it ☹️
OMG you're human and make mistakes?! 😵 😉😂
We all gotta learn somehow. At least you were otherwise prepared and you lived to tell the tale 👍 I went out for an overnight last February, it went down to -21C overnight and I don't have fancy gear like yours. I doubled up a fall and a summer sleeping bag, and I had a Thermarest self inflating R4.4 pad with some relectix under it. I lived to tell the tale, but I won't be doing that again! 😂😂😂
Does the Therm-a-rest Sleeping Pad Chair also fit on the Sea To Summit Either Light XT sleeping pad?
I think it may just need to b deflated a bit because of it's 1.5in extra thickness
what skis and shoes are u using?
Hey what kind of ski set up is that? Like a backcountry cross country ski?
BD Trekker skis!
The hot tent foil chimneys always looked like a nitemare to roll up. Is there a trick to getting them to remember the tube shape? I thought I heard before that getting them good and hot changes the memory.
Still looks like a fun trip, I’d imagine even though it’s cold it probably doesn’t feel that bad inside the tp with no wind.
After yo udo the initial burn in, they remember their shape no problem. You just need to get that initial roll done when the titanium is warm.
Can you still use the chimney or is it now burnt in incorrectly?
TBD :)
Justin are you familiar with the lite outdoors titanium stove? It's the lightest and cheapest hot tent stove I can find. My friend just got one and it seems really thin. Do you have any suggestions for ultralight budget stove?
I am familiar with it but haven't tried it! The 3F UL U-Stoves have worked really well for me
@@JustinOutdoors I ended up ordering the danchel outdoors stove with the class side it's bit heavy but 450 for a folding stove and glass side
Awesome video man, as always! I was just wondering what went wrong with the assembly of the chimney?
I should have rolled it under warmer condition and then done a "burn in". It is actually possible to roll it when the titanium is warm and then after it has an hour or so of fire in the stove and heat coming out the chimney, it i much easier to roll in the future, even when cold.
@@JustinOutdoors thanks for the info man! You pretty much saved me from doing the same thing 🙏🏻
Not sure what you did with that stove pipe, where you upset?
very, haha
Time to get a snowtrekker or esker.
Looks familiar, where’s this?
Mosquito Creek!
@@JustinOutdoors I love all the info you provide and have gone a winter camping a few times, but only to Parksr run backcountry sites with wood provided. I am having trouble finding clear rules on where you can get fire wood? From what I found online, a person can't use any form of wood inside the parks or wildlands in alberta. Is there a place for clearer explanations, as you need wood for the hot tent?
Any insight would help with my confusion and hesitation on getting out there.
Thanks and keep exploring.
Any regrets with the BD GlideLites? I've had my eyes on them since they came out but haven't pulled the trigger. I hate dealing with skins. How do they climb?
I have been pleasantly surprised by them! They climb decently. Maybe slightly better than you'd expect from a mixed skin that is only a couple of feet long. The 147 length and size i perfect for staying nimble but also getting effective float and ski-ability. For anything that has flat or rolling terrain, I think these are my go-to.