I still can’t understand why people didn’t like 2k15, I loved it just as much as the SVR series and the previous wwe 12,13 and 2k 14 games, the graphics were a huge treat too
It was awful on ps4/Xbox one, had barely any match types or creation options, it was buggy as hell, and had a terrible career mode. The only good thing was showcase mode. Even on the ps3/360 version (which was very similar to 2k14) Create a story and Create a finisher were removed.
@@Rocket1377t's only the beginning of the match and it was optional to turn off or on. Why take away so many sim aspects when you can just go ham on Battlegrounds? Maybe if they put some effort on that game and made it good, they wouldn't have to take away things from us sim gamers. Edit: I forgot to mention that even if you turned it on, the opponent doesn't have to engage in it. He can just attack you immediately, completely skipping the chain grappling
I feel like I’m the only one who actually enjoys the transitions from gameplay to real footage, and back to gameplay. 2K23 kinda stepped back since there’s not narration, but at least with 2K22 it was so hype seeing you pull of moves and how smoothly it transitions to the real thing and then back it really drives home the point that you’re playing the actual matches. Some of the older showcases are cool but it just feels more like a road to wrestlemania or universe mode how the cutscenes play out.
The thing that frustrates me the most about 2k23 is the fact that I have to grapple my opponent then hit a move. It would be so much better if we could have the option to choose between simulation mode (2k15-19) and arcade mode (2k22-23)
Collar & Elbow tie up done beyond the beginning of a match is crazy unrealistic. However, there's a workaround where you can make it obsolete (not online) if you wanna do your grapple moves USE THE COMBO SYSTEM instead. You can be like kick, punch, then press grapple and it'll do moves without locking up. You can fit a whole move list on it. To avoid lock up for Irish whips you have 2 choices... assign hard strikes like a forearm shot that have knock back, it'll make him fall on the ropes or corner, from there you Irish whip. You'll still have to initial grapple but it won't be the Collar & Elbow 2nd method is grapple from behind, then Irish whip. It'll be a waist lock and when you Irish whip there's an animation of a forearm to the back before he Irish whips.
@@vinces4812Exactly and there's idiots who actually have no problem with it. Unfortunately that trash creative director has no problem with it either. There's no way he's a wrestling fan or ever was.
I was mad confused and angry that I couldn’t swanton bomb off a ladder, and that’s one of the core moves of high flyers in WWE On a side note tho running with ladders and tables is a bit busted, but the leaning ladders thing, while being in both games, is way better in 15, a slight breeze blows the ladder off the ropes in 23 and there isn’t much to do with it.
Hey, there's also another thing you can do in WWE2K15 that you can't do in WWE2K23 and that is do diving finishers off the elimination chamber pods. For example RVD, Five star splash but in WWE2K23 you can only do a diving splash.
In 2K’s defense for chain wrestling and only that, a lot of people were saying that it was slow and annoying and they didn’t want it cuz they wanted fast gameplay and now that we have fast gameplay people want it back. AEW game is showing that a fun game with the element of wrestling is possible and it’s not one or the other like a lot of “influencers” and the 2K people think. I still believe if 2K20 would’ve worked and we kept that format we would have the greatest wrestling game rn
2k 19 was great.I don't understand why they couldn't have used that as a founding base for this reboot instead of completely changing the game play making it impossible to pick up and play
@@WCG847 does that mean they couldn't use the same base controls. Did they have to completely revamp the game play? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything I'm really asking, did they have no other choice?
@@MonkeyDToniProductionsthe sim was amazing in recreating real matches. I get that some people like arcade play. For me is simulation all the way. They made it super fun in 2k19. Perfect.
I'm glad they took out the running irish whips. Those aren't realistic. Wrestlers do not just run towards someone, grab their wrist, and spin them around into the ropes in real life. They have to be stationary to do the Roman handshake.
Yes we want to live the game feeling not from real life clips if I want to watch real life stuff I'll go watch on wwe network not in 2k23 bring back the in game cutscenes of showcase mode
The stamina/damage system in the new 2k games stinks. I miss the fall damage of the old games where if you jumped off a ladder and missed you’d be laid out for a minute. Now you get up immediately. Same with tired finishers. In the old 2k games I was actually able to come close to recreating royal rumble 04 between HBK and HHH with both men staying down until an 8 count. That’s no where near possible in 2k23. Everybody no sells.
I really did like to chain wrestling but playing with my friends who got the WWE 2K just for nostalgic matchups rather than being modern fans, they really groaned on about it while I told them you could just turn it off, while at the same time I couldn’t help thinking “yeah a lot of people probably don’t like this” even though I enjoy it.
They know what they're doing. Introduce a hot feature and take it away 3 years later just to bring it back 10 years later and label it as "new". The tired finisher feature of 2K15, the TLC of svr11, and the online of WWE '13 and 14 all in one 2K24 package would be my ideal wrestling game that I would NEVER put down for years to come but THQ/Yukes/2K/VC will always dissapoint me with the removal of awesome features and introducing crappy ones like the poor mycareer of 2K22
NHL 15 and WWE 2K15 had some similarities- they were the first next-gen versions on PS4/Xbox One, had great core gameplay but so many things stripped. And they were from different companies too. I guess they were just focused on wowing us with next-gen gameplay and graphics.
Lowkey I’d enjoy 23 more if it had 15’s physics with the selling(minus the glitches) and 19’s gameplay instead of taking out chain grappling and tired pins entirely I would’ve had the option to turn it on or off cuz I actually enjoyed these
2k23 is kinda random when it comes to tied finishers, once I sued the tombstone and my character stayed down for so long that my opponent got up before me
I wish this series would stop with the one step forward two steps back approach. They're supposed to be building on each installment but they end up hamstringing themselves and limping forward. I didn't buy 2K23 because of all the stuff they took out, but if they put it back I will consider getting 2K24.
Dont understand the 2k devs. Hell in cell matches are horrible to play now. Overall 2k15 is underrated. It was just missing content. But I notice I always go back to play 2k15 or 16. I still think 2k needs to loose the license to make these games though
I still can’t understand why people didn’t like 2k15, I loved it just as much as the SVR series and the previous wwe 12,13 and 2k 14 games, the graphics were a huge treat too
Id say it was mostly cause there was less match types and career mode was lackluster. I had 15 on ps3 and loved it tho
The creation suite was really limited that’s why I didn’t like it a lot.
It was awful on ps4/Xbox one, had barely any match types or creation options, it was buggy as hell, and had a terrible career mode. The only good thing was showcase mode. Even on the ps3/360 version (which was very similar to 2k14) Create a story and Create a finisher were removed.
lmao
The gameplay was top tier the content lacking is why a lot of people don’t like it
I think 2K got rid of chain wrestling because some players actually complained about it
I liked it
@@WizeBan I know me too
It slowed the gameplay down, so I can understand why some players didn't like it. AEW Fight Forever has brought it back, only it's much faster now.
@@Rocket1377t's only the beginning of the match and it was optional to turn off or on. Why take away so many sim aspects when you can just go ham on Battlegrounds?
Maybe if they put some effort on that game and made it good, they wouldn't have to take away things from us sim gamers.
Edit: I forgot to mention that even if you turned it on, the opponent doesn't have to engage in it. He can just attack you immediately, completely skipping the chain grappling
People will complain about literally anything
The fact they added tired finishers back in but made you get up immediately after is so 2K
I feel like I’m the only one who actually enjoys the transitions from gameplay to real footage, and back to gameplay. 2K23 kinda stepped back since there’s not narration, but at least with 2K22 it was so hype seeing you pull of moves and how smoothly it transitions to the real thing and then back it really drives home the point that you’re playing the actual matches. Some of the older showcases are cool but it just feels more like a road to wrestlemania or universe mode how the cutscenes play out.
It is cool but youtubers cant show it
You’re not
I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY ONE 😮
I liked 2k22's showcase WAY better than 2k23's because the cover star actually commentated during the cutscenes.
John Cena commentates for it.
@@nathanvanek6479 But not for the in game cutscenes.
The thing that frustrates me the most about 2k23 is the fact that I have to grapple my opponent then hit a move. It would be so much better if we could have the option to choose between simulation mode (2k15-19) and arcade mode (2k22-23)
I hate that we need to do a front face lock in order to irish whip. A front face lock before doing a carry move. It’s stupid.
Collar & Elbow tie up done beyond the beginning of a match is crazy unrealistic.
However, there's a workaround where you can make it obsolete (not online)
if you wanna do your grapple moves USE THE COMBO SYSTEM instead. You can be like kick, punch, then press grapple and it'll do moves without locking up. You can fit a whole move list on it.
To avoid lock up for Irish whips you have 2 choices... assign hard strikes like a forearm shot that have knock back, it'll make him fall on the ropes or corner, from there you Irish whip. You'll still have to initial grapple but it won't be the Collar & Elbow
2nd method is grapple from behind, then Irish whip. It'll be a waist lock and when you Irish whip there's an animation of a forearm to the back before he Irish whips.
Some times we cannot pickup our opponent and throw them that’s what I want in wwe 2k22 and 23 but other than that it’s better
@@vinces4812Exactly and there's idiots who actually have no problem with it. Unfortunately that trash creative director has no problem with it either. There's no way he's a wrestling fan or ever was.
@@SmoothSportsGamingTbh, I don’t need realism in wwe games
The physics was the best thing in 2k15 imo
They never matched that again
@@KalomikaArts2k16/17 had some of it but never enough to compare to 2k15's ragdoll physics
I was mad confused and angry that I couldn’t swanton bomb off a ladder, and that’s one of the core moves of high flyers in WWE
On a side note tho running with ladders and tables is a bit busted, but the leaning ladders thing, while being in both games, is way better in 15, a slight breeze blows the ladder off the ropes in 23 and there isn’t much to do with it.
Hey, there's also another thing you can do in WWE2K15 that you can't do in WWE2K23 and that is do diving finishers off the elimination chamber pods. For example RVD, Five star splash but in WWE2K23 you can only do a diving splash.
In 2K’s defense for chain wrestling and only that, a lot of people were saying that it was slow and annoying and they didn’t want it cuz they wanted fast gameplay and now that we have fast gameplay people want it back. AEW game is showing that a fun game with the element of wrestling is possible and it’s not one or the other like a lot of “influencers” and the 2K people think. I still believe if 2K20 would’ve worked and we kept that format we would have the greatest wrestling game rn
facts, i really dont like the controls, bc everytime i go back to 2k19 or older wwe 2k game it feels like playing a new release game
I believe if Yukes( the people that made the wwe games for a long time) had not left after 2K19, WWE2K20 would be a good game.
I hated the slow gameplay of 2k15-20, cutting facelock or rest holds didn't help, removing reversal and minimizing stamina limits helped.
Agreed. It's those stupid @$$ "fans" that don't know what they want.
@@Zay0010LMAO 😂
The Fact that Yule”s did these things better then Visual Concepts is so crazy
2k15 was ass 😂😂😂
Did you mean Yukes not Yules😅
@@erikspidy_pool534 yes,I did
It's not crazy. Yukes has done wrestling games for almost 30 years
@@a-bomb3593I suppose that’s true
2k 19 was great.I don't understand why they couldn't have used that as a founding base for this reboot instead of completely changing the game play making it impossible to pick up and play
Because Visual Concepts and yukes conflict in 2019
@@WCG847 does that mean they couldn't use the same base controls. Did they have to completely revamp the game play? I'm not trying to be snarky or anything I'm really asking, did they have no other choice?
They wanted to try a new control system. And I think they did a really great job with. Feels a lot more like an arcady game
Yes 2k19 was the sweetspot. 2k23 has better impact animations, sound, graphics. Only needed to elaborate on wwe 2k19
@@MonkeyDToniProductionsthe sim was amazing in recreating real matches. I get that some people like arcade play. For me is simulation all the way. They made it super fun in 2k19. Perfect.
I'm glad they took out the running irish whips. Those aren't realistic. Wrestlers do not just run towards someone, grab their wrist, and spin them around into the ropes in real life. They have to be stationary to do the Roman handshake.
Tbh it looked cool in game
Basically 2k15 to 2k20
All of the sudden everyone loved chain wrestling in 2k15 😂
😂
It adds more realism
@@WizeBanbhai 2k15 keyboard se kese khele nahi khel paa raha control ki vajah se
2:28 I think the real life footage is really cool
Me too
Not really
showcase cutscenes are so much better than having the wrestler narrate and show the real life version of the event
Yes we want to live the game feeling not from real life clips if I want to watch real life stuff I'll go watch on wwe network not in 2k23 bring back the in game cutscenes of showcase mode
The fact that chain wrestling made wwe 2k more interesting Back then
The thing with Showcase cutscenes is that it probably takes time away and gives them less time to work on other things in the game
The problem is they worked well on these ganes regardless
The problem is, they don't do shit these days
I absolutely loved the real life footages in the wwe 2k23 showcase
The crawling pin was always my favorite
The blood was much better looking in 15 than the trickle you get in 2k23
The blood in 15 looks like ketchup
My imagination or the animation speed for the 2k15 games just seem more normal than the fast/slow execution of alot of the modern day games
I hope and pray that wwe 2k24 must have chair actions 🙏
Inferno
Costume music DLC
I Quit match
speciel Referee
And all those thing here from 15
@@partyoflife77no they weren’t, 2k15 seriously lacked game modes
@@joshuakelk6886they were in the current Gen version not the next gen
Now that I seen this,I starting to think that 2k15 wasn't that bad
I think it's the most lifeless entry of the 2K WWE games.
Only good thing about 2k15 was the Showcase mode imo
I only cared for showcase in 15
Yh coz it ain’t bad it just doesn’t have any match varieties which makes it dead
tbh i like the real life footage cut it looks so clean in my opinion
I’ve been playing 2K15 and I’m noticing these things too. Hopefully 2K notice this and implement some in 2k24
The stamina/damage system in the new 2k games stinks. I miss the fall damage of the old games where if you jumped off a ladder and missed you’d be laid out for a minute. Now you get up immediately. Same with tired finishers. In the old 2k games I was actually able to come close to recreating royal rumble 04 between HBK and HHH with both men staying down until an 8 count. That’s no where near possible in 2k23. Everybody no sells.
Go to settings first finisher put 50 next 60 and 3rd 90 they'll oversell
If a wrestler’s health bar is very low(below 50%)then for me they do stay down for a long time after a tired finisher
I really did like to chain wrestling but playing with my friends who got the WWE 2K just for nostalgic matchups rather than being modern fans, they really groaned on about it while I told them you could just turn it off, while at the same time I couldn’t help thinking “yeah a lot of people probably don’t like this” even though I enjoy it.
The Tired FInisher is so annoying in WWE 2k23. They could instantly make it better if we could crawl and pin.
u deserve a sub for your hardwork and detailed explanation.You will defenitely get rewarded for the time that you used to make this video.
Thanks a lot
They know what they're doing. Introduce a hot feature and take it away 3 years later just to bring it back 10 years later and label it as "new". The tired finisher feature of 2K15, the TLC of svr11, and the online of WWE '13 and 14 all in one 2K24 package would be my ideal wrestling game that I would NEVER put down for years to come but THQ/Yukes/2K/VC will always dissapoint me with the removal of awesome features and introducing crappy ones like the poor mycareer of 2K22
When I realized all the stuff that got removed from 2k22 (gameplay wise) I started to prefer 2k19 again
2k15 and 2k19 better than whatever they make now
Man I miss 2kshowcase so disappointed they removed it from the other wwe games except 2k23 I think
WWE 2K15 Is One Of My Favourite! :D The Ragdoll Physics i love it! This game is awesome
Also had very detailed commentary!!
From what I hear in this video, 2K15 definitely has the better sound design!
they NEED to bring back chain wrestling
Ngl chain wrestling was too tough they definitely need to add that back🤝🏽💯
AEW actually does chain wrestling better than the 2K series with its faster rock paper scissors approach.
2k15 still looking good for a 2014 new gen game
NHL 15 and WWE 2K15 had some similarities- they were the first next-gen versions on PS4/Xbox One, had great core gameplay but so many things stripped. And they were from different companies too. I guess they were just focused on wowing us with next-gen gameplay and graphics.
2K24 should add commentary and extra damage for moves onto weapons
Lowkey I’d enjoy 23 more if it had 15’s physics with the selling(minus the glitches) and 19’s gameplay instead of taking out chain grappling and tired pins entirely I would’ve had the option to turn it on or off cuz I actually enjoyed these
Still, SvR 2006 and 2007 are my favourites.
The best 2k game was 2k16 in my opinion
Back when cutscenes were expected and not a feature
Wizeban did you preorder AEW fight forever
Nope, There's no option on steam
@@WizeBan yeah I’m going to get it on ps5 and Xbox
2k23 is kinda random when it comes to tied finishers, once I sued the tombstone and my character stayed down for so long that my opponent got up before me
6:19 my guy is going through it
Nice video. How You ever played legends of Wrestlemania.
yes,i did
Commentators table board vanishes upon impact when it falls on da ground in all wwe 2k games except for 15
I actually kinda miss chain wrestling, felt like an actual match. Though I do see why I people thought it was really slow
Chain wrestling made the game feel really like WWE
I've played almost every wwe 2k game and I've never seen a tired finisher before, how do you trigger them?
It happens when you are on low stamina
2k15 is underrated
Wwe15 had great soundtrack 🔥
WWE 2k15 is overhated, I think it's a solid wrestling game 👍
i agree
I dont know why you cant movie free in a hiac playin it feels closter fobic
when iam playing 2k15 my game goes to slow motion in chain wrestling,how to fix it please help
2K showcase still has cutscenes they even blend animation with real footage there’s no commentary tho
If 24 was a hybrid of 15, 17,23 In one i’d buy 60 copies
WWE 2K15 Best wwe game ever
I feel like the hiac change was the most unbearable one
Dont forget the OMG Moves
nice
Thank you
this just shows you how old this engine is
I would say 2k15 is a graphically better and almost good clone of svr 2011 except for some lacking features
I like the real life scenes in showcase idc
The wwe 2k23 commentary doesn't talk
Wwe 2k19 greatest wrestling game on next gen ever
The chain wrestling is in my nightmares
i like how 23 cuts to irl footage
tbf stacking tables was almost impossible to pull off
Man the hate that 2k15 gets is crazy Yeah may might have not been the best 2k game but I really enjoyed it slept on imo
What happened to bray wyatt 7:44
I wish this series would stop with the one step forward two steps back approach. They're supposed to be building on each installment but they end up hamstringing themselves and limping forward. I didn't buy 2K23 because of all the stuff they took out, but if they put it back I will consider getting 2K24.
2k15 was very good sadly 2k23 is really not as good.
23’s cuts to real life is way better then those wack ass cut scenes
Crawling pin is back
Dont understand the 2k devs. Hell in cell matches are horrible to play now. Overall 2k15 is underrated. It was just missing content. But I notice I always go back to play 2k15 or 16. I still think 2k needs to loose the license to make these games though
you can still lean ladders on ps4
they took chain wrestling out because majority of people didn't like it.
Things they both can’t do: Accurate Ratings for superstars
can you do all x-factor variations?
ok
Why stack the tables if only 1 breaks? I swear they never both broke
That running Irish whips clip didn't help your case KEKW. Janky as fuck. Most people would take a functioning game over running whips 💀
i my xbox 360 doesn’t have that chain wrestling
don't understand how can they make game content lesser year by year
I thought this vid would be like 10 seconds long lol
Bro why they're censoring Mike Chioda's face the disrespect
The crazy part is everyone hated the tie up system and now want it back😂😂
I hope it doesn't come back lol, that shit was so annoying to do. Slowed everything down and just wasn't fun, in my opinion.
@@numberseventeen_ tbh if they do bring it back atleast have the option to turn that crap off😂
wwe 2k23 still have the crawling pin
2k15 is a better WRESTLING game
They really did mess up HIAC. Pisses me off
No fatigue its Like the superstars have always energy…
Sorry i need you learn me how i can have this old triple h pleaseeeee
2k15>>>>>>
Spear threw the baracade Wwe 2k15 had but Wwe 2k23 did not
Some off the features hated by audience so they removed the features