Aloha Mark! I have a giant tangerine tree in Hawaii (rained 254 days in 2018, 360' elevation). This year, the fruit bounty is incredible because my friend suggested that I pressure wash the tree trunk/branches. This made a HUGE difference in production. I believe the Lichens and Moss that took over the tree were sucking life out of her. After pressure washing (1,600 psi Ryobi) the trunk and branches, this tree produced way more than 2018. This is useful info on East side of Big Island, Hawaii. Mahalo, -Matthew
Thank you for allowing some birds and wildlife to enjoy some of the fruit. Our Gardens are fantastic when they work with nature and not against it. You sir are awesome in many ways.
I am in Arizona and here, sun=heat and burning. You need to have a tree West of it in order to give it afternoon and shade and also some wind protection. You have to do what is appropriate for your area.
Great Information. I have a large mandarin tree full of fruit and will be germinating some seeds to grow some more trees. I am living in Hawaii. My mother thinks your videos are a wonderful inspiration.
All your videos are great with loads of useful information. Thanks a lot and please keep them coming. I recycle my grass clippings plus I use Sugar cane mulch to have at least a 120mm bed of mulch. It's convenient way to feed the tree because I spread the citrus fertilisers over it and it releases slowly as I water. Also watering is less frequent because as you know, the bottom of the mulch stay moist for a very long time. The mulch also supplies a nice soft landing for any fruit that drops. My Washington Navel recently died, I think someone damaged it near the base with a lawn mower. In its last season, it produced a huge amount of fruit, mostly large and many of the fruit this time had quite a number of seeds. I think it knew it was dying and did its best to have offspring. It was grafted onto Trifoliata root stock and was about 30 years old. I have now bought a baby one in replacement but I think I will keep it in a large pot.
You re a great communicator and teacher...i have a mandarin plant waiting to be planted...and guess what ? Its going to be a 'ton load' mandarin plant! Stay blessed!
Great video Mark. Very jealous that you can grow citrus trees, here in zone 3 (Canada) I'm lucky to grow apple trees at best. I'll have to move to Oz someday.
G'day Mark, your pruning video and this "ton of mandrines" are excellent and if you have friends with cattle the spoiled fruit they'll love! All fruit trees will benifit from the care you've covered. Wish I could grow citrus, too cold here. God bless.👍😎
Mark, I would love to see more harvest videos of all the veggies, fruits, etc. that you come across throughout your time in the garden. Love watching harvest videos in addition to your tip videos.
That really true you know because mandrine tree is important to grow karen boyar you also have to grow that mandrine tree too it good for you if you don't the mandrine tree will die
Hello I’m 20 and just started watching you. Thankyou soo much for teaching me soo much about plants also pleeeeese can you do a video on how to deal with plants in a hot climate. Thanks soo much man you r a UA-cam great
I love watching your videos. I get lots of ideas to use in my garden. I've been trying to get my husband to build the taller metal planters. Maybe some day. I wish we could grow a lot of citrus. Here in Central Florida we have whats called "Greening." It's a disease which causes the citrus trees to decline and die. We made it trough citcus canker. Now this. We will do what we can to keep the few trees we have alive as long as possible.
Citrus Greening sounds like a horrible disease! That's worse than the damage caused by our dreaded fruit fly here in Oz at least they only target the fruit directly but being a destructive bacteria that remains in the tree forever once infected is terrible. I hope one-day science finds a simple cure for such a problem. All the best :)
planted my mandarin trees(3) from seed in my raised bed, w/ about 6-7 hours of sun/day & have been watering them fairly lightly, just making the soil good & damp along with my 3 bell pepper plants, Today I was able to give my mom/dad one in a small pot, it's already about 5" tall!! @Selfsufficientme I live in the St Louis MO area, which is "zone 6" , it's been perfect temps lately, especially during the day just in the high 70's 🙏 Gonna put a little manure & mix a bit in the soil & keep gettin them good water & sun. We'll see 👊 All 3 look pretty healthy, I did a light Miracle-Gro vegetable/fruit mixture added w/my water couple weeks ago.
@@Selfsufficientme I was wondering about the water used from the tub or washing machine,if it wouldn't be damaging since shampoos or detergents have chemicals...
Thanks for the great tips Self Sufficient Me!! My citrus plants will only get better thanks to you. Thank you for your commitment to growing organically! It’s not always easy but long term, caring for the well being of your entire garden’s environment pays dividends. And I loved that you included a mention to allow some loss of fruit to go to wild birds and animals. It’s only natural. Why go to extremes that can harm your backyard ecology, only to insure an extra handful of fruit? Thanks again for your thoughtful insights into sustainable growing and your joyful demeanor in the garden.
Yes, it is delightful to watch your videos, the tips are very important. Mandarin tree specially their leaves were getting this dark dust causing damage. Living in P.R. I seldom see a mandarin tree in our neighborhood. I will plant one.
2 years ago my mandarin tree made 500-600 fruit but we could not get all the fruit, this year it made roughly 60 fruit maybe more. The outer skin is easy to peel, the fruits can be very large for a mandarin but normally average sized
Happy New year to you friend and thank you for everything that I have learnt from your videos, I pray, so God keeps you healthy always and your family 🙏🙏🙏
Mark, always good. This is just an observation. A recent/distant video I saw of your was your uncle had about 3 dozen herds of native bees down the back. Pollination is really important to maximise citrus production, growers are learning more about that now. Even with hemaphrodite flowers many trees especially mango and citrus benefit greatly from pollination. I am not saying bees are necessary, like you, a healthy insect flora is sooo important to any environment or food production system. You may have a secret ingredient... :) ..... Another great video.....cheers... [ps.... do bees come in herds?.. I suspect they do, but might just be me!
I do suspect that you're right to suggest it helps to have good pollinators - that's a point I should include in a video because it's a really good one! My uncle removed those hives last week (after 4 years) and left me with one... sad I know... but he wanted to relocate them closer to his home and away from the bog down the back of our property. I still do see plenty of bees accessing our garden even though he has taken away 18 hives so I reckon there are many natural hives out in the bush regardless. Cheers :)
Love your videos. Even though you are in Australia you have a very similar climate as I do in Melbourne Florida. I also love citrus but growing citrus here can be A LOT OF WORK. We have much disease and fungus due to the high humidity factor. I have to check on my citrus almost every single day. So anyway my comment is about the dogs at the end of your video. I think a simple solution would be to plant some kind of privacy plant just on your side of the property so the dogs really can't see you. I'm sure with a little research you could probably find something thick and something that could provide food. Good luck and keep the videos coming.
Tips: 1. Growing position for maximum sun and away from harsh winds 2. Food in form of fertilizer like chicken manure but read manufacturer instructions on fertilizer so you have don’t over fertilize. If using animal product, it should not be fresh, let it rot first. 3. Water. If dropping leaves or fruit may need more water. 4. Pests- Should use organic options, not chemicals 5. Mulch protects roots from drying out. Helps hold in nutrients and fertilizer.
Nuisance barkers are annoying, aren't they? Love your tips! I have a 15 year old mandarin tree; had citrus bug damage on my mandarins for the first time this winter...never saw them, only the damage as the fruit ripened. I wish there was a better, organic way of eliminating them. Oh well...still got a huge crop of mostly undamaged fruit.
Got around 50 manderines this year from tree bought from bunnings three yrs ago. First mentionable crop. Live Gippsland. Didnt think fruit would be much but they are sweet as. Havent tasted a manderine till you eat homegrown. Dont let colder regions like sth Victoria put you off. Imperial variety is a goer. East to peel.
I have lots of Mandarin plants, from seeds. Well due to Covid 19. Its 2 years now. MAy I know how many years it will produce fruit? Hope you answer me. Best regards
Excellent and humane squash technique 👍 :) I have just put some lovely charlie carp solution on my tree, only to read the instructions and see it is a foliar spray! I will get the Multifeed S2000 out of the shed (organic fully composted chicken manure). Love your vids thank you! Overcome and adapt, great advice...
I have my Madrid orange on the east side of my backyard it gets the west sun I have had it in the ground about 4 or 5 years just now fertilizing concerned about the morning shade I will be watering more and fertilizing
Hi Mark, great to get an Aussie showing the ropes. I have a mandarin tree at the side of my unit, not much space at all. Put there by the previous owner. There are river pebbles underneath. Neighbours trees keep the light out but one neighbour has just cut a tree down and I have asked the other neighbour to do the same. I have some oscmocote for succulents I just bought. Guess I can’t use that on the tree can i? Will have to get some mulch from Bunnings. Thanks for the help. 🐌🐞
Love your enthusiasm and editing! Thank you for the very helpful advice given with good humor. Just put a kishu and satsuma in the ground and can't wait for the fruit. I have rabbits and chickens so there is no shortage of fertilizer LOL.
Sounds like I will need to implement these tips for getting the dwarf mandarin tree sorted. It hasn't flowered in the three years since moving up here to Central Queensland. No idea of how old it is eaither.
Thanks for your videos. I grafted mandarin on to my lemonade. All 3 grafted. The graft was a very sweet tree. I’ve got lots of mandarin but not sweet. Would you know why? Thanks. 🙏
Thanks for the tips have planted a dwarf mandarin tree and it’s looking a little sad. Might go get some organic composed and some mulch to put around it. We have a lime tree also covered in those bugs. Thanks now I know what they are. Not sure how old the tree is as was here when we brought the place. But it’s covered in them. Someone suggested using white oil. But now I wonder if this is not a good idea as you said about the good bugs. Hmm. I’ll be there for days though if I try pick all the bugs off😖
Hey Mark, I know this is an old video but if you see this can tell me how you fertilize with deep mulch around the tree? I have a very deep mulch bed around my citrus and am unsure if I should pull the mulch back to apply my granular organic fertilizer or if I just put it on top of the deep mulch. Thanks.
Hi, Mark, I've been been your channels subscriber,since half a decade. I just got myself a plant of Valencia. Can you give me some tips on how to begin with the soil ? Cheers from India 🇮🇳
I planted Pixie and PAGE TANGERINE in the ground from a 5 gallon container. I followed your teaching and the trees are growing new leaves with flowering. Would I get fruit the first year or second year?
Wondering if you help me I brought a grafted blood orange tree two years ago it seems to be growing slowly not any flowers yet my other citrus trees that I put in around the same time have given fruit I do follow your tips just wondering if I'm wasting my time or should I just hurry up and wait Chrs I have learnt a lot from you
Aloha Mark! I have a giant tangerine tree in Hawaii (rained 254 days in 2018, 360' elevation). This year, the fruit bounty is incredible because my friend suggested that I pressure wash the tree trunk/branches. This made a HUGE difference in production. I believe the Lichens and Moss that took over the tree were sucking life out of her. After pressure washing (1,600 psi Ryobi) the trunk and branches, this tree produced way more than 2018. This is useful info on East side of Big Island, Hawaii. Mahalo, -Matthew
Thank you for allowing some birds and wildlife to enjoy some of the fruit. Our Gardens are fantastic when they work with nature and not against it. You sir are awesome in many ways.
Citrus trees are really something to look at when they're bearing fruit. Love it!
I am in Arizona and here, sun=heat and burning. You need to have a tree West of it in order to give it afternoon and shade and also some wind protection. You have to do what is appropriate for your area.
Thanks for this video!
Finally found someone that can explain clearly, briefly and with a sense of humour!
I am now a subscriber! :)
Great Information. I have a large mandarin tree full of fruit and will be germinating some seeds to grow some more trees. I am living in Hawaii. My mother thinks your videos are a wonderful inspiration.
I watched this in 2018 and tried it and now my tree is full of em thanks!
All your videos are great with loads of useful information.
Thanks a lot and please keep them coming.
I recycle my grass clippings plus I use Sugar cane mulch to have at least a 120mm bed of mulch. It's convenient way to feed the tree because I spread the citrus fertilisers over it and it releases slowly as I water.
Also watering is less frequent because as you know, the bottom of the mulch stay moist for a very long time. The mulch also supplies a nice soft landing for any fruit that drops.
My Washington Navel recently died, I think someone damaged it near the base with a lawn mower. In its last season, it produced a huge amount of fruit, mostly large and many of the fruit this time had quite a number of seeds. I think it knew it was dying and did its best to have offspring.
It was grafted onto Trifoliata root stock and was about 30 years old.
I have now bought a baby one in replacement but I think I will keep it in a large pot.
I have such an addiction for mandarins! 🍊🍊🍊 So much that I told my husband I want a mandarin orchard.
Thanks so much for this video
You re a great communicator and teacher...i have a mandarin plant waiting to be planted...and guess what ? Its going to be a 'ton load' mandarin plant! Stay blessed!
what a fitting channel and brand name. you are/were way ahead of the pandemic
You have the best videos!!! Started watching you when you only had 100k look at you go! You deserve it 🎉
To have Mandarins growing in my yard. Just amazing. Thanks for sharing this.
Great video Mark. Very jealous that you can grow citrus trees, here in zone 3 (Canada) I'm lucky to grow apple trees at best. I'll have to move to Oz someday.
Happy to have you here Guy but you do live in a beautiful country though! Cheers :)
Thanks for the video on growing mandarins.
G'day Mark, your pruning video and this "ton of mandrines" are excellent and if you have friends with cattle the spoiled fruit they'll love! All fruit trees will benifit from the care you've covered. Wish I could grow citrus, too cold here. God bless.👍😎
Orange
Mark, I would love to see more harvest videos of all the veggies, fruits, etc. that you come across throughout your time in the garden. Love watching harvest videos in addition to your tip videos.
That really true you know because mandrine tree is important to grow karen boyar you also have to grow that mandrine tree too it good for you if you don't the mandrine tree will die
Those lovely dogs are just fine.
Part of the patterns and funny little things
Thanks very much for your guidance on how to get the best yield I think I will apply all the 5 tips
Thanks Mark. I just planted a mandarin tree a week ago. Fluked it with the position. Now to nurture it
Great tips! Can't wait for my tree to arrive now!
Great video gave good motivation to grow lots of mandarijn in Curaçao lots of sun and space
Hello I’m 20 and just started watching you. Thankyou soo much for teaching me soo much about plants also pleeeeese can you do a video on how to deal with plants in a hot climate. Thanks soo much man you r a UA-cam great
I love watching your videos. I get lots of ideas to use in my garden. I've been trying to get my husband to build the taller metal planters. Maybe some day. I wish we could grow a lot of citrus. Here in Central Florida we have whats called "Greening." It's a disease which causes the citrus trees to decline and die. We made it trough citcus canker. Now this. We will do what we can to keep the few trees we have alive as long as possible.
Citrus Greening sounds like a horrible disease! That's worse than the damage caused by our dreaded fruit fly here in Oz at least they only target the fruit directly but being a destructive bacteria that remains in the tree forever once infected is terrible. I hope one-day science finds a simple cure for such a problem. All the best :)
planted my mandarin trees(3) from seed in my raised bed, w/ about 6-7 hours of sun/day & have been watering them fairly lightly, just making the soil good & damp along with my 3 bell pepper plants, Today I was able to give my mom/dad one in a small pot, it's already about 5" tall!!
@Selfsufficientme I live in the St Louis MO area, which is "zone 6"
, it's been perfect temps lately, especially during the day just in the high 70's 🙏 Gonna put a little manure & mix a bit in the soil & keep gettin them good water & sun. We'll see 👊 All 3 look pretty healthy, I did a light Miracle-Gro vegetable/fruit mixture added w/my water couple weeks ago.
4:44 DID YOU SEE THAT!!??!?!!!? 😱 I THINK IT'S A LIGHTNING ⚡
i just found the interview you did on
The Vegetable Gardening Show.
great interview.
Thanks Kathy! I was a bit disappointed with my internet connection and the choppy playback but we couldn't help that I guess. :)
@@Selfsufficientme I was wondering about the water used from the tub or washing machine,if it wouldn't be damaging since shampoos or detergents have chemicals...
Bone meal makes a huge diff in citrus too! I found it multiplied amazingly fruit on loquat & made them sweeter!
Thanks for the great tips Self Sufficient Me!! My citrus plants will only get better thanks to you.
Thank you for your commitment to growing organically! It’s not always easy but long term, caring for the well being of your entire garden’s environment pays dividends. And I loved that you included a mention to allow some loss of fruit to go to wild birds and animals. It’s only natural. Why go to extremes that can harm your backyard ecology, only to insure an extra handful of fruit?
Thanks again for your thoughtful insights into sustainable growing and your joyful demeanor in the garden.
Excellent explanation.
This was really helpful! Thank you for posting!!!
Thanks Mark for ur guidance.
Very good guide
I would love to support you man I love the energy you always bring to the table !!!if I had the money
Yes, it is delightful to watch your videos, the tips are very important. Mandarin tree specially their leaves were getting this dark dust causing damage. Living in P.R. I seldom see a mandarin tree in our neighborhood. I will plant one.
How can I find out what type of orange tree I have? Love your channel especially the composting segments.
2 years ago my mandarin tree made 500-600 fruit but we could not get all the fruit, this year it made roughly 60 fruit maybe more. The outer skin is easy to peel, the fruits can be very large for a mandarin but normally average sized
Love the videos mark.
Awesome info as always Mark! Thank you 👍🌳🍊
Thanks for all the good tips and suggestions. I really appreciate it. 😊
Thank you Daniel! :)
Happy New year to you friend and thank you for everything that I have learnt from your videos, I pray, so God keeps you healthy always and your family 🙏🙏🙏
Thank you for sharing❣
Thank you very much.
Mark, always good. This is just an observation. A recent/distant video I saw of your was your uncle had about 3 dozen herds of native bees down the back. Pollination is really important to maximise citrus production, growers are learning more about that now. Even with hemaphrodite flowers many trees especially mango and citrus benefit greatly from pollination. I am not saying bees are necessary, like you, a healthy insect flora is sooo important to any environment or food production system. You may have a secret ingredient... :) ..... Another great video.....cheers... [ps.... do bees come in herds?.. I suspect they do, but might just be me!
I do suspect that you're right to suggest it helps to have good pollinators - that's a point I should include in a video because it's a really good one! My uncle removed those hives last week (after 4 years) and left me with one... sad I know... but he wanted to relocate them closer to his home and away from the bog down the back of our property. I still do see plenty of bees accessing our garden even though he has taken away 18 hives so I reckon there are many natural hives out in the bush regardless. Cheers :)
4:33 sky net
Thank you sooo much sooo informative
Awesome thanks mark
Thanks Mark, see if it improves with your suggestions. My orange tree yields up to 300 fruit a year, not a 1 from mandarin though.
Is it okay to take a shit around your citrus trees every day? Would that be a good fertiliser?
I love the vids. Keep it up!
Great video. Can't wait to try it out. Thank you.
Love your videos. Even though you are in Australia you have a very similar climate as I do in Melbourne Florida. I also love citrus but growing citrus here can be A LOT OF WORK. We have much disease and fungus due to the high humidity factor. I have to check on my citrus almost every single day. So anyway my comment is about the dogs at the end of your video. I think a simple solution would be to plant some kind of privacy plant just on your side of the property so the dogs really can't see you. I'm sure with a little research you could probably find something thick and something that could provide food. Good luck and keep the videos coming.
Tips:
1. Growing position for maximum sun and away from harsh winds
2. Food in form of fertilizer like chicken manure but read manufacturer instructions on fertilizer so you have don’t over fertilize. If using animal product, it should not be fresh, let it rot first.
3. Water. If dropping leaves or fruit may need more water.
4. Pests- Should use organic options, not chemicals
5. Mulch protects roots from drying out. Helps hold in nutrients and fertilizer.
I like this show its full of useful info.
Nuisance barkers are annoying, aren't they?
Love your tips! I have a 15 year old mandarin tree; had citrus bug damage on my mandarins for the first time this winter...never saw them, only the damage as the fruit ripened. I wish there was a better, organic way of eliminating them. Oh well...still got a huge crop of mostly undamaged fruit.
Great video ive wqtched it multiple time over the years! Quick important question though... How do I get aphids off my citrus tree??
Thankyou so much 💯😃
Hello, may I use the same tips for my clementine tree ?
Got around 50 manderines this year from tree bought from bunnings three yrs ago. First mentionable crop. Live Gippsland. Didnt think fruit would be much but they are sweet as. Havent tasted a manderine till you eat homegrown. Dont let colder regions like sth Victoria put you off. Imperial variety is a goer. East to peel.
They are amazing homegrown, aren't they! Cheers :)
You are so lucky it rains where you live
That last part got me running to the farm amd do some planting lol
great tips man thank you!!
I have lots of Mandarin plants, from seeds. Well due to Covid 19. Its 2 years now. MAy I know how many years it will produce fruit? Hope you answer me. Best regards
Wow, so much work, how do you keep up with it all? Your tree looks amazing!
Subhannallah this is so beautiful , ur are so lucky that u are around all this god sent nature , may Allah guide u
Thanks Mark! Any tips on making sour citus sweeter???
Excellent and humane squash technique 👍 :)
I have just put some lovely charlie carp solution on my tree, only to read the instructions and see it is a foliar spray! I will get the Multifeed S2000 out of the shed (organic fully composted chicken manure).
Love your vids thank you!
Overcome and adapt, great advice...
Thank you! Love ur video
Mandareeeeen! Thanks Mark!
I have my Madrid orange on the east side of my backyard it gets the west sun I have had it in the ground about 4 or 5 years just now fertilizing concerned about the morning shade I will be watering more and fertilizing
subscribed! very helpful and funny remark about dogs at the end. I like them except when they're unruly.
Hi Mark, great to get an Aussie showing the ropes. I have a mandarin tree at the side of my unit, not much space at all. Put there by the previous owner. There are river pebbles underneath. Neighbours trees keep the light out but one neighbour has just cut a tree down and I have asked the other neighbour to do the same. I have some oscmocote for succulents I just bought. Guess I can’t use that on the tree can i? Will have to get some mulch from Bunnings. Thanks for the help. 🐌🐞
Very helpful. Thank you sir!
How to grow oranges.Thank you for sharing you videos.love them
Just give us a present 🎁 one that 🌴 like it a lot .
Love your enthusiasm and editing! Thank you for the very helpful advice given with good humor. Just put a kishu and satsuma in the ground and can't wait for the fruit. I have rabbits and chickens so there is no shortage of fertilizer LOL.
Loving your videos , I'm a new subscriber:)
Sounds like I will need to implement these tips for getting the dwarf mandarin tree sorted. It hasn't flowered in the three years since moving up here to Central Queensland. No idea of how old it is eaither.
Yeah, give it a bit of love and she'll pay you back big time :)
Great info thanks Mark
im not regret to watch👏👋🤝👍👍👍
Great video. Would love to know....did the neighbors recognize your polite hints about their dogs? lol
Thanks for your videos. I grafted mandarin on to my lemonade. All 3 grafted. The graft was a very sweet tree. I’ve got lots of mandarin but not sweet. Would you know why? Thanks. 🙏
Hey @Self Sufficient Me, have you had any problems with fires around your area?
Is it grafted or grown from seeds??? Please answer.... Thank you.
Thanks for the tips have planted a dwarf mandarin tree and it’s looking a little sad. Might go get some organic composed and some mulch to put around it. We have a lime tree also covered in those bugs. Thanks now I know what they are. Not sure how old the tree is as was here when we brought the place. But it’s covered in them. Someone suggested using white oil. But now I wonder if this is not a good idea as you said about the good bugs. Hmm. I’ll be there for days though if I try pick all the bugs off😖
Yes
Hey Mark, I know this is an old video but if you see this can tell me how you fertilize with deep mulch around the tree? I have a very deep mulch bed around my citrus and am unsure if I should pull the mulch back to apply my granular organic fertilizer or if I just put it on top of the deep mulch. Thanks.
Great video, thank you! What variety are your mandarins? I'm looking to plant a new tree mid-spring and I have the perfect spot at my home for it!
Hi, can you grow mandarin trees from cuttings of a mature tree? How long does it take for the cuttings to begin producing fruit? Thank you!
Hi, Mark, I've been been your channels subscriber,since half a decade.
I just got myself a plant of Valencia. Can you give me some tips on how to begin with the soil ?
Cheers from India 🇮🇳
Great info. Thanks ...
Thanks.
heavenly amazing video series
Hi there, your mandarin I am looking for, is it Omari satsuma mandarin? Thanks for your reply!❤
4:32 turn into a robot for a split second there 😳 🤣
😂🍊no barking at all 🍊😂
I planted Pixie and PAGE TANGERINE in the ground from a 5 gallon container. I followed your teaching and the trees are growing new leaves with flowering. Would I get fruit the first year or second year?
Love your videos, mate. I've learnt a lot. I have just started growing citrus trees. Greetings from Croatia. :)
Which is best between Satsuma and Gold nugget for flavour and sweetness?
I want your t shirt !!!
Wondering if you help me I brought a grafted blood orange tree two years ago it seems to be growing slowly not any flowers yet my other citrus trees that I put in around the same time have given fruit I do follow your tips just wondering if I'm wasting my time or should I just hurry up and wait Chrs I have learnt a lot from you