Do Both, do a round at the start without any banter to get everyone familiar with the thought process - then the rest of the video can include banter the whole time.
They should bring in two more guys so they someone to talk to, like Kosmo and Moonbo. Keep the conversations separate so they say their though processes, but definitely need someone to banter with.
@Christopher Vo honestly not too bad idea. I've personally not played this game. But from what seen soo far this game only meant for 2 players . Soo this would be great idea if game let's you have 2v2
@@Gpz0 I love this idea! I was thinking they should either do half talking to each other and then half working out their thought process, as it's great to have both, but having a third and fourth person to chat with would be interesting. Not sure how it would affect game balance though, since you do have an extra pair of eyes for the sniper to look for the spy, whereas the spy is just one guy talking to another guy giving his thoughts on what he's doing, but I think it would be interesting to at least try to see if it could work.
So here's a question: do you already know this game really well? And if you don't, are you even watching the video? Or are you just listening to it as some kind of ASMR.
I am glad for this one episode explaining your thought processes for the game, but this one should be enough. I hope we get the banter between you two back going forward.
Ehh could do push to talk style for games like this h2o delirious and cartoonz as an example. Press and banter, release tell the audience what youre thinking. Brings way more life to the gameplay. Gives enough to both sides of the aisle.
I definitely prefer this style where you explain what your doing or what your planning. Having never played the game its nice to be able to follow along, and being able to know what your doing as the spy is more entertaining.
This is wildly entertaining. I've never even heard of this game, but I understand a little bit now. It's hilarious out of context. To someone that had no idea how it worked at first, hearing something like "Oh, just needed the banana bread, and you got me as I touched his butt" had me confused in all the best ways.
Have you seen the one where the sniper is in the middle of a circular room - or the one where there’s a massive fish tank where you can use the shark as cover? The level design is devilish for making the sniper’s life difficult 😅
Eh, I prefer the talk between you guys the whole time. It's more interesting, also funny. Being like Oh damnit! you already got that! This isn't as fun.
This is infinitely better than it was before. Before it was just like watching a security camera at TGI Fridays for half an hour. The comments seem to be generally negative but the views for this video have already passed the views from your video a week ago. If you don't know this game very well, something like this is necessary. I'm gonna guess retention is also way up over the other video.
Over only just seen these guys through the algorithm. I think something caught it there so I don't know how much you should put into views compared the other style. I prefer hearing banter between ppl, if they don't talk to each other it gets very samey. "Seen it before, normal breakdown" the banter and personality is where I stay with a creator or not. (Haven't watched yet, but going to watch the other rounds too)
@@LucidDreamexe Its up to 40k now. The other on is at 11k. I wrote that comment when this one was at 13k. The algorithm caught it for a reason and that reason is probably retention time. The other video was almost unwatchable if you didn't have some familiarity with the game. I'll have to check kAN's video and see if he's seeing the same thing though his did't go up until later. We won't know unless one of them tells us about the analytics and generally Dapper doesn't respond in the comments too much, but he also makes marbles videos that get 200k or more views pretty regularly so its understandable.
@@LucidDreamexe i agree! I also got recommended this (pretty much out of nowhere since I do not watch these people or this game) but this thought process thing does get sorta stale by the 2nd game, I personally think that playing with more people may help it be more interesting but idrk I haven't played this game so I wouldn't know..
I really like this format. It gives me better reason to watch both videos since I'm subbed to both of y'all. Usually it's just who's video I watched first then skip thru the next one. This give the same video more reply. Love it.
Comments seem pretty split in the two types of videos. I've never played this game before and was slightly lost to what was going on in the previous video. So I think for those like me that didn't know this game this version works well but as I catch up with what needs to be done the first video would be much better. 👍
Have a visual indicator on the screen showing that you’re muted to him, and give you’re thoughts on what your doing then. That way you can banter whilst giving your thoughts at the same time.
What could be really cool would be if you sent each other your audio, so you could talk it out but then also include the other player's talking it out as well.
never played this game, and i could follow what was happening perfectly fine. this was so much more, idk...lifeless? without kan narrating his sniper frustrations the whole time.
@@oldvlognewtricks me too actually!! But maybe they are both youtubers so this person didn't do that so the other one could also have content? I mean it wouldn't be a very bad idea to do that so people go watch your friends video for their side of commentary
@@DeathOfAnExecutionerr I suppose so - and it’s a lot of extra work if you usually do the equivalent of a stream - it just makes for an odd summary of the whole experience. Maybe they could have editing their videos so you can watch them both at once in split screen? 🤣
I started a game as spy, went straight to Toby and asked for a vodka martini shaken not stirred and announced myself as Bond James Bond. And immediately got shot. I think the sniper doesn’t understand how this game and the process of being a spy works!!! How can you be a famous spy if no one knows who you are???
Can you explain the statue numbers? This is the first I've seen someone referring to them that way. I've watched a lot of Spy Party, but usually the people I've watched used hawk/eagle/bird, head, and idol, so when you say one, two, and three, I have no idea what means what.
Numbers are easier for me to remember than shapes! That's just how I memorize them. I assign them by the hieght. 1 the head being the shortest 2. the wierd looking on as gustavo said, and 3 the owl. (In short - 2132 lot quicker in my head than wierd thing / head / owl / wierd thing)
@@Waffleh7454 Fun fact. The "weird statue" is actually a real life statue known as a Venus figurine. They're well known in anthropology for being a very common statue in older European circles.
Reminds me of I played dark souls 3 and at crucifixion woods i went to the upper northwest corner that you only get too by going through a part of the keep and isn't really anything up there. using a white branch and turning into a cross gravestone after using a driedfinger, then went afk for like 4 hours. Never got murdered but plenty of farrons guardians invaded and fought red invaders/the mad invaders. Other time i roleplayed as a silver knight in the aldrich faithful area by going offline killing a single silver knight with a greatbow, kicked his corpse into the abyss put on the armor and the greatbow saved and quit went back online, wielded the greatbow, used driedfinger and went afk to see how long i'd live before someone figured it out. No one ever did just kept killing each other after giving up looking for me. Good times, Good times.
Guest list is a paper in the middle of the drinks tray, banana bread is the code phrase that hearing it means the double agent has just been contacted, and i have no idea what greenlighting is
@@OiseauHiver purloin means to steal. you are stealing the guest list. Greenlighting refers to achieving a completion on a task which shows as a green checkmark.
I must not know how to play this game, because at 8:30 look at the bald guy in the middle with the briefcase, after a few seconds he puts down the briefcase, then a few seconds later someone else picks it up? What am I missing?
People seem to prefer the banter but I'm fine with this. Sure you might get some really good banter sometimes or you might get nothing too special. I prefer to know what's going on in the gameplay and it to be reliable.
@Cody Internet "spy party" and read what things are. I would type it all, but that would take more time then reading. Also reading about it talks about people in positions when a move happens. The gold figures as numbers, is how Dapper calls the figures in his head, 1,2 and 3s. I sure hope what I wrote helps out.
Still kinda hard to follow sometimes because you just say "I think he's this guy", but there are like 20 guys lol. Should say "mustache guy" or "turban guy" or something.
This game isn't my speed because I have almost no idea what's going on, and apparently you need to be super aware of everything going on and have a great memory to keep track of all the suspects.
Do Both, do a round at the start without any banter to get everyone familiar with the thought process - then the rest of the video can include banter the whole time.
Dapper, stop using your alts to get us to just agree to what you want!
You know, dapper is a real person too, we're on to you
No
Maybe it's just me, but, I'd like to see the same round twice: once from the spy pov, and the next from the sniper pov.
i think an edit between perspectives would be nice, like cutting between the two when there's important stuff
like maybe alternating?
@@ahbi-star with internal monologue
That’s what I kept waiting for
I would like no cuts, just two full recordings of the same session, one from each side.
Are you kidding me, I like hearing the banter between you two.
Ikr . Even tho did enjoy this, but banter between u2 I liked that more . Honestly booo peeps that complained
They should bring in two more guys so they someone to talk to, like Kosmo and Moonbo. Keep the conversations separate so they say their though processes, but definitely need someone to banter with.
@Christopher Vo honestly not too bad idea.
I've personally not played this game. But from what seen soo far this game only meant for 2 players . Soo this would be great idea if game let's you have 2v2
@@Gpz0 I love this idea! I was thinking they should either do half talking to each other and then half working out their thought process, as it's great to have both, but having a third and fourth person to chat with would be interesting. Not sure how it would affect game balance though, since you do have an extra pair of eyes for the sniper to look for the spy, whereas the spy is just one guy talking to another guy giving his thoughts on what he's doing, but I think it would be interesting to at least try to see if it could work.
So here's a question: do you already know this game really well?
And if you don't, are you even watching the video? Or are you just listening to it as some kind of ASMR.
I am glad for this one episode explaining your thought processes for the game, but this one should be enough. I hope we get the banter between you two back going forward.
Ehh could do push to talk style for games like this h2o delirious and cartoonz as an example. Press and banter, release tell the audience what youre thinking. Brings way more life to the gameplay. Gives enough to both sides of the aisle.
THIS
or just do the banter. Its not too tricky to follow.
I definitely prefer this style where you explain what your doing or what your planning. Having never played the game its nice to be able to follow along, and being able to know what your doing as the spy is more entertaining.
Npc ngl 😂
@@tailis8489 not everyone who has a popular opinion is an npc 💀
"Yeah, you were waiting for your 10 second timer so I was like alright, I just gotta take the shot on this brown guy"
I like that you two were explaining what you were doing it made so much more sense
"You were waiting for your 10 second timer so I was like 'Alright I just gotta take this shot on this brown guy' " 💀
I would love to hear each thought process intercut through a single round - although that might be an editing nightmare
For a cartoon game, this is more real then one might think.
Thanks for the shows Dapper.
Oh, some explanation on your thoughts during the round is a great idea. This seems to work a bit better for those who haven't played this game.
Give me the chaos it's fun hearing all the banter
This is wildly entertaining. I've never even heard of this game, but I understand a little bit now. It's hilarious out of context. To someone that had no idea how it worked at first, hearing something like "Oh, just needed the banana bread, and you got me as I touched his butt" had me confused in all the best ways.
The visibility on that second map is rough holy crap
Have you seen the one where the sniper is in the middle of a circular room - or the one where there’s a massive fish tank where you can use the shark as cover? The level design is devilish for making the sniper’s life difficult 😅
I prefer the banter too cause I do not understand this game but I understand it when dapper is a menace to Kan.
Such a fun game to watch, I like this whole talk us through your strategy format. Great video!
I used a 200 IQ Strat where I pretend to be an NPC in a game where you pretend to be an NPC! Shocking, must watch!
Yeah, pretending to be an NPC might be a time honored tradition in Dark Souls PVP, but here it's sort of the point.
@@XoRandomGuyoX I played Dark Souls and used a 200 IQ Strat... dodge rolling!
@bowmin1 Now you're just making stuff up bro 😂😂
When the waiter crouches down for the shorter guest 😂😂
Eh, I prefer the talk between you guys the whole time. It's more interesting, also funny. Being like Oh damnit! you already got that! This isn't as fun.
This is infinitely better than it was before. Before it was just like watching a security camera at TGI Fridays for half an hour. The comments seem to be generally negative but the views for this video have already passed the views from your video a week ago. If you don't know this game very well, something like this is necessary. I'm gonna guess retention is also way up over the other video.
Over only just seen these guys through the algorithm. I think something caught it there so I don't know how much you should put into views compared the other style.
I prefer hearing banter between ppl, if they don't talk to each other it gets very samey. "Seen it before, normal breakdown" the banter and personality is where I stay with a creator or not. (Haven't watched yet, but going to watch the other rounds too)
@@LucidDreamexe Its up to 40k now. The other on is at 11k. I wrote that comment when this one was at 13k.
The algorithm caught it for a reason and that reason is probably retention time. The other video was almost unwatchable if you didn't have some familiarity with the game.
I'll have to check kAN's video and see if he's seeing the same thing though his did't go up until later.
We won't know unless one of them tells us about the analytics and generally Dapper doesn't respond in the comments too much, but he also makes marbles videos that get 200k or more views pretty regularly so its understandable.
@@LucidDreamexe kAN does not have as many on his most recent one as he did his earlier one but its only been 1 day so far.
@@LucidDreamexe i agree! I also got recommended this (pretty much out of nowhere since I do not watch these people or this game) but this thought process thing does get sorta stale by the 2nd game, I personally think that playing with more people may help it be more interesting but idrk I haven't played this game so I wouldn't know..
This was really good . I enjoyed it :) . I honestly didn't mind when both you were talking on last episode
I really like this format. It gives me better reason to watch both videos since I'm subbed to both of y'all. Usually it's just who's video I watched first then skip thru the next one. This give the same video more reply. Love it.
I really like seeing you guys play this, I do miss the talking of you in rounds though
Comments seem pretty split in the two types of videos. I've never played this game before and was slightly lost to what was going on in the previous video. So I think for those like me that didn't know this game this version works well but as I catch up with what needs to be done the first video would be much better. 👍
5:33 you’d be a great police officer!
Have a visual indicator on the screen showing that you’re muted to him, and give you’re thoughts on what your doing then. That way you can banter whilst giving your thoughts at the same time.
What could be really cool would be if you sent each other your audio, so you could talk it out but then also include the other player's talking it out as well.
title’s like if a doom let’s play was called “i used a genius strat, killing the demons”
Key, Guests do NOT like to touch each other when standing in circles
Thank you for doing this episode. It was easier to pick up the rules with the talk through.
Love that you explained the thought process!
never played this game, and i could follow what was happening perfectly fine. this was so much more, idk...lifeless? without kan narrating his sniper frustrations the whole time.
I was expecting to hear the commentary cut together in one video - it’s a bit one-sided to only hear about one half of the game
@@oldvlognewtricks me too actually!! But maybe they are both youtubers so this person didn't do that so the other one could also have content? I mean it wouldn't be a very bad idea to do that so people go watch your friends video for their side of commentary
@@DeathOfAnExecutionerr I suppose so - and it’s a lot of extra work if you usually do the equivalent of a stream - it just makes for an odd summary of the whole experience.
Maybe they could have editing their videos so you can watch them both at once in split screen? 🤣
As a Dutchmen, it's weird how ya'll use and Pronounce the word "Dapper" it just means "Brave/Bold" essentially.
I adore this, just the whole social deduction thing, it's amazing.
I started a game as spy, went straight to Toby and asked for a vodka martini shaken not stirred and announced myself as Bond James Bond. And immediately got shot. I think the sniper doesn’t understand how this game and the process of being a spy works!!! How can you be a famous spy if no one knows who you are???
oh my goodness Dapper is all in my mouth with this video CERTIFIED DAPPER CLASSIC!!
Much better this way :) Last video I was completely lost on what the game mechanics are.
Can you explain the statue numbers? This is the first I've seen someone referring to them that way. I've watched a lot of Spy Party, but usually the people I've watched used hawk/eagle/bird, head, and idol, so when you say one, two, and three, I have no idea what means what.
1 is the head thing, 2 is the weird looking one and 3 is the owl
Numbers are easier for me to remember than shapes! That's just how I memorize them. I assign them by the hieght. 1 the head being the shortest 2. the wierd looking on as gustavo said, and 3 the owl. (In short - 2132 lot quicker in my head than wierd thing / head / owl / wierd thing)
@@Waffleh7454 Fun fact. The "weird statue" is actually a real life statue known as a Venus figurine. They're well known in anthropology for being a very common statue in older European circles.
Reminds me of I played dark souls 3 and at crucifixion woods i went to the upper northwest corner that you only get too by going through a part of the keep and isn't really anything up there. using a white branch and turning into a cross gravestone after using a driedfinger, then went afk for like 4 hours. Never got murdered but plenty of farrons guardians invaded and fought red invaders/the mad invaders.
Other time i roleplayed as a silver knight in the aldrich faithful area by going offline killing a single silver knight with a greatbow, kicked his corpse into the abyss put on the armor and the greatbow saved and quit went back online, wielded the greatbow, used driedfinger and went afk to see how long i'd live before someone figured it out. No one ever did just kept killing each other after giving up looking for me.
Good times, Good times.
Nice video. My opinion is that it is more entertaining to have you guys chat with each other.
I like the banter
“I was sussing on that brown guy”
I still have no idea what's going on with this game. What the hell is green lighting a purloin, where is this guest list, and banana bread???
Guest list is a paper in the middle of the drinks tray, banana bread is the code phrase that hearing it means the double agent has just been contacted, and i have no idea what greenlighting is
@@OiseauHiver purloin means to steal. you are stealing the guest list. Greenlighting refers to achieving a completion on a task which shows as a green checkmark.
First time watching this game. What’s a banana bread? 😂
I must not know how to play this game, because at 8:30 look at the bald guy in the middle with the briefcase, after a few seconds he puts down the briefcase, then a few seconds later someone else picks it up? What am I missing?
I am being uncivil and marginally disrespectful. Anarchy
So it is nice to see your thought process and all but the banter is better.
The game looks fun but the price tag is pretty bonkers for such a game. This could very much be popular if they'd price it properly.
People seem to prefer the banter but I'm fine with this. Sure you might get some really good banter sometimes or you might get nothing too special. I prefer to know what's going on in the gameplay and it to be reliable.
I like it also
no one cares
Doesn't this whole game revolve around pretending to be an npc?😂
Having both streams side-by-side, with audio in left and right channels could be an interesting way to present the video.
Susing the black typical cop lmao 😂😂😂
Me: got ignored with no friends.
Also me: I used 200 IQ strat pretending to be an NPC in real life.
9:20 HOW DID HE KNOW WHO WAS THE SPY?! I don´t know which is the guest list that disappeared
I love this, pls do more
Also, I love that dapper wanted top 1,000, reached his goal, then had to keep going!
Yeah I do prefer the chatter while playing. This games been around for long enough for no explanation I feel
What an interesting concept for a game
"i was sussing on that brown guy" "i just had to take the shot on this brown guy" 🤨🤨
Spy Party, the game where you play a Spy at a party.
i think this changes things would make it different and interesting, i like both when just talking but it does make it interesting at the same time
dang, Dapper is a BEAST at this game
this is like oldschool Assassin's Creed multiplayer... miss those days
Dapper is actually a secret agent. not joking. UA-cam is a rouse.
One of the entire points of this game is the banter between the players
I have no idea why this was recommended to me, and I really wish I understood what's happening here because it looks like it could be fun.
I liked the banter, but I do think this is better. But the tree map is awful for spectating the sniper.
"Sussing on that brown guy"
That was so good. Now I want to play.
"I Used A 200 IQ Strat... Pretending To Be An NPC!"
So... the objective of the game?
“i was sussing on that brown guy” racism
@thequietkidtm4282
I understand this is one year later. Earth only has one human race. And have a nice day.
i love this
this is so confusing ive no idea what yall are talking about lol, need a whole tutorial video of what everything is / means
@Cody Internet "spy party" and read what things are. I would type it all, but that would take more time then reading. Also reading about it talks about people in positions when a move happens. The gold figures as numbers, is how Dapper calls the figures in his head, 1,2 and 3s. I sure hope what I wrote helps out.
This comment section is a perfect example of: no matter what you do, you won't satisfy everyone
Yay im first also i Like your channel
NO ONE CARES IF UR FIRST MAN
@@NicholasAndKarl something bad happened to you? I hope you get better soon! There is no need for negativity here
I was wondering, how does the spy know he's highlighted?
Still kinda hard to follow sometimes because you just say "I think he's this guy", but there are like 20 guys lol. Should say "mustache guy" or "turban guy" or something.
Despite all the critique based comments, still a great video
Great game !
5:32 Every police officer ever
Way better this way!!!
I knew the Turban guy is Kan from the beginning.
This game isn't my speed because I have almost no idea what's going on, and apparently you need to be super aware of everything going on and have a great memory to keep track of all the suspects.
You could play the roblox version, it’s called ‘Be an NPC or die’
Do push to talk so you can choose whats announced?
You owned him
I like this version with more analysis and less banter. But I do understand if it's too boring for you guys.
why are the staff creepy but everyone else looks normal
Lol You should see the old version of the game!
@@DapperEcho from what i see here i'd rather not
Interesting game
this honestly looked like the sims
Flippity floppity floop
Why not Flupp?
I must be the only one in the comments who enjoyed this version way more
Are they really npcs if you play as them?
It looks like the sims in a good way
toby? isnt that mark zukerburg?
omg that tree line is awful. also i like hearing the thought process
amogus with guns
Do what h2o delirious does and do push to talk. So can talk and banter.
i missed seeing this game