Outer circle, superfluous friends yes. True friends no. Too many emotional hurdles to ever truly accept them the way I would the friends I've never had that level of conflict with in the past.
This episode deserves an award. So brutally honest about so much s-- that goes on between women and in their heads in the most constructive way. Brought up a lot of high school flashbacks from the late 90s for me. You are very lucky to have each other to have this conversation. My two sisters are close enough in age that as the middle sister I was in high school with both of them at different times. They definitely kept me in touch with reality in a way that was (lovingly) brutal at times, but in retrospect, incredibly beneficial to my mental health. They are such invaluable relationships.
I was going to comment that I was glad to see Whitney try to hold her ground. I found them both to be pretty underhanded on some of their exchanges with each other. Kate came across as fake, and Whitney didn't need to bring up Kate's veneers😅
this was the most open and honest podcast I have ever witnessed. I know this episode will help so many other people know it is ok to leave the shadow of guilt, shame and regression and speak their truth in the light of day. Bravo!!!
I just want to say that her monolog on the afterlife in _Midnight Mass_ was so beautiful. It's one of my most favorite shows I've seen in a while just bc that scene! 🥲
Probably one of her best podcasts to date. I didn’t know they went to high school together. I’m such a big fan of Kate’s which is why I tuned in. This conversation was very open and honest and relatable.
Kate made a good point that kinda counters Whitney's old joke about actors being untrustworthy because they're professional "fakers." Good acting isn't about lying/faking, it's the opposite, it's about being fearlessly real, it's allowing yourself to actually have real feelings in front of people. It's the opposite of deception, every actor I know has zero poker face, what makes them good actors is their extreme sensitivity and wearing their feelings on their face kinda goes along with that.
I agree! Hearing someone else articulate how badly they wanted permission to be evil, and the way she leans into her own fear and becomes a method actor in a way... was REALLY interesting and such a refreshing take.
as someone whose abuser is dying 54:22 truly saved me. the affirmation from someone that it's okay to not forgive your abuser to heal has helped me tremendously. thank goodness for kate ❤️
This was an AMAZING episode!! Not only was it clearly healing for you both -- but hearing Kate say she wanted people to be jealous... somehow made me realize how my own trauma affected my capacity for intimacy, interpersonal relationships with women & cycles of abuse from men. Light bulb moment for sure.
If ever asked to recommend a podcast his episode will be the first one i share. Truly so honest. Have already re-watched several times. I hope to see KATE SIEGEL come back. Love this episode really was therapeutic and intelligent
I had no idea that Whitney went to a performing arts high school, nor did I realize she want to UPENN (I work there) -- thinking back to episodes from one/two years ago, it seems like Whitney has taken heart over listeners asking for real vulnerability and not the intellectual perspective of her trauma. This episode was incredible
This is so cathartic as someone who has experienced a similar “emotional reshuffling” and calculated manipulation at a young age. Thank you both so much🙏
This is probably the best podcast episode I’ve ever listened to, and not just because Kate is my favorite actor. These two come across as so incredibly real. I felt like it was a conversation I could’ve had with my old high school friends. And the way they were able to speak about their trauma from different perspectives was truly powerful.
This episode deserves an award. Brought back a lot of stuff from high school in the late 90s. So glad you both have each other to have this healing conversation. I credit my sisters for keeping me grounded in reality through high school and beyond. I didn’t really appreciate their lovingly brutal honesty until much later. We all need someone like that.
I was shocked to see that my favorite actress & favorite girl boss knew each other before fame...this was the duo I didn't know I needed. And now after watching this, it makes so much sense why I am a fan of both. Absolutely loved this episode and probably my favorite, I even watched the video rather than listen to the it on Spotify. I could listen to them talk all day, especially about their past. If you're reading this, love you Kate and Whitney! I look up to you both.
I wish every podcast could be as human, open, honest and mature as this podcast episode. Heck, I wish people just in everyday life could be this human, open, honest and mature. Sure would make life a lot more easy.
Best ep in a minute! Incredibly natural, yet soul-baring conversation between two women who have seen and learned from some shit - and can still admit they aren’t exactly on the other side of it. Thank you for this podcast💛
THIS EPISODE👏🏻 THIS EPISODE👏🏻 THIS EPISODE👏🏻 I didn’t know what they were talking about most of the time because they are so elevated in their healing and I am working on it lol but this conversation was love at its core. It was safe, healing and unconditional. Thank you guys. ❤
There is a great deal of learning and healing potential from listening to Whitney's and Kate's conversation. As adults, I think we tend to misremember how vulnerable and confused *we* were as adolescents - partly because we were so eager/desperate to be "all grown up" at the time. I am a high school educator, and this conversation really resonated with my training and my experiences. It is frighteningly easy for adult authority figures to do tremendous harm to the teens in our care. It can come from a clueless mistake, like the administrator who accused Kate of lying about the cyberbullying she experienced. It can come from predatory behavior like the drama teacher's. Or it can be a wide variety of things in between. Those of us who are responsible for kids cannot make ourselves perfect people, but we can keep reminding ourselves of the painful consequences our actions can have on them, even unintentionally.
I have been such a fan of both Kate and Whitney’s for so long, it is so cool to find out after all these years that they KNOW EACH OTHER?! What a plot twist. Such a cool conversation, please have Kate back!
Thank you both for this real ass conversation. For those of us with complicated pasts and friendships you guys showed what could be possible on the other side of it. It was brave of you both to share that.
This was such a good episode, I relistened when I ran out of things to do in the car on the way to TN lol also fun fact my husband and I named our chinchilla Theodora bc she was our favorite character from Haunting of Hill House hahahah I loved listening to people who are so successful talk about their insecurities and the weird/cringe/not kind things they did and thought when clouded with jealousy and insecurity. It was very relatable. 💛
Such a fantastic episode. Kate's closing statement about talking about real shit with Whitney was beautiful. I can't wait to see her on the pod again. :D
Inspired to be a better version of myself, how to define forgiveness, “that two things can be true at the same time”, and to embrace 👯♀️friendship, not fear it or devalue it. Big stuff! ❤❤❤ so appreciate you
Watching and listening Whitney explain her experience is so heartbreaking. We want to take ownership of our role in these situations, but that man still preyed on her. That is not okay
This was so good… Bobby Koehler is a LEGEND!!!! Whitney I’m happy you brought up The Crucible… you and Kate were AMAZING… and Alec Silver was brilliant… interview was spot on… exactly how I remember you all in HS… keep crushing it… teacher got fired later btw for hooking up with a student… go figure smh
I love Kate and this was a great episode to see the vulnerability and honesty when discussing the past and how people think on different levels going through high school. Well done ladies, and you better stay friends!!!
Thanks for this!!!! I’m a gay dude that is also a survivor. The two don’t have anything to do with each other. This conversation is beyond helpful and I just can not thank you enough. ❤
this episode was so fucking good. just honest and smart and so entertaining. i listened to it bc i’m a huge fan of kate but i wasn’t expecting such an eye opening conversation. things i didn’t know i needed to hear. i really really hope she comes back bc this dynamic is great and i’d love to hear more. ik this episode is a few months old but i keep coming back to rewatch. maybe she can come back once they start promoting the fall of the house of usher.
Ugh this podcast was so needed and also I loved! Can we please have a part two just talking about random things and of course her shows and projects please 😩😩😩
Omg you two can we make this movie !!! Both of your stories and how they come together and how you both like come out the other side is so inspiring, and synchronized!
I'm dying at some of these references; the hs names, etc. I am much older than you two, so it's crazy it all still tracks. jessica mcclintock, yup! owned it lol
1. I loved that prom photo of y’all. 2. I completely forgot about hill house Kate was hot af and that funeral scene that was long taped had me shook, completely genius. 3. It seems everyone has had eating disorders, but Whitney has the pics to prove it. That was heartbreaking seeing those pics.
Kate Siegel is fantastic. Haunting of Hill House is so fucking good. Absolutely terrifying but also deeply moving. Almost like a Six Feet Under vibe in the early episodes (the highest of possible compliments).
Love the podcast and how self aware Whitney is. A couple things I thought during this podcast. Whitney threw out the rhetoric that her abuser must have been abused. That’s dangerous rhetoric to be perpetuating. By that train of thought then Whitney would eventually abuse someone as well. That’s one of the reasons Is was hard for me to reveal my abuse because I was scared people would think, I’d turn into an abuser. Additionally, many times guests will come on and speak their truth but Whitney is quick to shut them down and explain what she believes something actually is. It’s important to be aware that you can be more versed in a particular subject but it doesn’t mean you’re right on everything. Discuss your perspective on a subject without telling someone they are wrong. Food for thought.
Whitney when you were describing your childhood and your circumstances regarding older men in a low income household I COMPLETELY FELT HEARD thank you for sharing your experience even when the whole room was like mmmm no
You both made it!!! proud of you all, love you both soooo much.🖤Kate I can relate to you in ways I can't even explain.🖤 truly amazing you both went to high school together brilliant.
amazing episode 🔥💜 having complicated feelings with female friendships myself, this type of conversations shows me new possibilities to rebuild important ones and create new. thank you for the honesty and vulnerability.
Who else has made friends with their nemesis?
My enemy is coke so yes
I have lol we didn't like each other at first because we have similar personalities.
I was not your nemesis!!!
When will we see Whitney's interview with Anna Delvey?
Outer circle, superfluous friends yes. True friends no. Too many emotional hurdles to ever truly accept them the way I would the friends I've never had that level of conflict with in the past.
I would watch 10 more hours of this highschool reunion
This episode deserves an award. So brutally honest about so much s-- that goes on between women and in their heads in the most constructive way. Brought up a lot of high school flashbacks from the late 90s for me. You are very lucky to have each other to have this conversation. My two sisters are close enough in age that as the middle sister I was in high school with both of them at different times. They definitely kept me in touch with reality in a way that was (lovingly) brutal at times, but in retrospect, incredibly beneficial to my mental health. They are such invaluable relationships.
I'm glad Kate held her ground on a few things and it was great to see them both receive each other's experience and rationalizations.
Yes!
I was going to comment that I was glad to see Whitney try to hold her ground. I found them both to be pretty underhanded on some of their exchanges with each other. Kate came across as fake, and Whitney didn't need to bring up Kate's veneers😅
this was the most open and honest podcast I have ever witnessed. I know this episode will help so many other people know it is ok to leave the shadow of guilt, shame and regression and speak their truth in the light of day. Bravo!!!
I just want to say that her monolog on the afterlife in _Midnight Mass_ was so beautiful. It's one of my most favorite shows I've seen in a while just bc that scene! 🥲
yeeehhhssss!!!!
Which episode was that? I've been watching it while i go to sleep and i think i missed that part.
@@xhandhele It's at the very end of the series. I'm not sure which episode exactly but you may not have gotten to it yet. Enjoy!
So good, unforgettable!
so good. her monologue on hill house gets me too. she’s incredible.
Probably one of her best podcasts to date. I didn’t know they went to high school together. I’m such a big fan of Kate’s which is why I tuned in. This conversation was very open and honest and relatable.
Kate made a good point that kinda counters Whitney's old joke about actors being untrustworthy because they're professional "fakers." Good acting isn't about lying/faking, it's the opposite, it's about being fearlessly real, it's allowing yourself to actually have real feelings in front of people. It's the opposite of deception, every actor I know has zero poker face, what makes them good actors is their extreme sensitivity and wearing their feelings on their face kinda goes along with that.
I agree! Hearing someone else articulate how badly they wanted permission to be evil, and the way she leans into her own fear and becomes a method actor in a way... was REALLY interesting and such a refreshing take.
as someone whose abuser is dying 54:22 truly saved me. the affirmation from someone that it's okay to not forgive your abuser to heal has helped me tremendously. thank goodness for kate ❤️
this was perfect whitney please don’t feel bad, please continue to post ones like this
Kate Siegel is so wholesome. This episode make me feel safe
This was such a fun watch. You guys look and act like sisters
Kinda.🦊🚬
This was an AMAZING episode!! Not only was it clearly healing for you both -- but hearing Kate say she wanted people to be jealous... somehow made me realize how my own trauma affected my capacity for intimacy, interpersonal relationships with women & cycles of abuse from men. Light bulb moment for sure.
This was the best podcast Whitney has done
If ever asked to recommend a podcast his episode will be the first one i share. Truly so honest. Have already re-watched several times. I hope to see KATE SIEGEL come back. Love this episode really was therapeutic and intelligent
I had no idea You’s even knew each other this is my favourite duo ever. I’m just smiling the whole time
I had no idea that Whitney went to a performing arts high school, nor did I realize she want to UPENN (I work there) -- thinking back to episodes from one/two years ago, it seems like Whitney has taken heart over listeners asking for real vulnerability and not the intellectual perspective of her trauma. This episode was incredible
This is so cathartic as someone who has experienced a similar “emotional reshuffling” and calculated manipulation at a young age. Thank you both so much🙏
Wish this was longer.. great episode!
This is probably the best podcast episode I’ve ever listened to, and not just because Kate is my favorite actor. These two come across as so incredibly real. I felt like it was a conversation I could’ve had with my old high school friends. And the way they were able to speak about their trauma from different perspectives was truly powerful.
This episode deserves an award. Brought back a lot of stuff from high school in the late 90s. So glad you both have each other to have this healing conversation. I credit my sisters for keeping me grounded in reality through high school and beyond. I didn’t really appreciate their lovingly brutal honesty until much later. We all need someone like that.
This was kind of remarkable. Thank you Whitney for letting us hang out with you guys.
This was a terrific watch! Thanks for being vulnerable, funny, and incredibly talented!
I’m sure this was genuinely therapeutic for the both of you. Awesome podcast 👏🏽
Never been more grateful for a podcast in my entire life!!!!
I was shocked to see that my favorite actress & favorite girl boss knew each other before fame...this was the duo I didn't know I needed. And now after watching this, it makes so much sense why I am a fan of both. Absolutely loved this episode and probably my favorite, I even watched the video rather than listen to the it on Spotify. I could listen to them talk all day, especially about their past. If you're reading this, love you Kate and Whitney! I look up to you both.
I wish every podcast could be as human, open, honest and mature as this podcast episode. Heck, I wish people just in everyday life could be this human, open, honest and mature. Sure would make life a lot more easy.
Best ep in a minute! Incredibly natural, yet soul-baring conversation between two women who have seen and learned from some shit - and can still admit they aren’t exactly on the other side of it. Thank you for this podcast💛
THIS EPISODE👏🏻
THIS EPISODE👏🏻
THIS EPISODE👏🏻
I didn’t know what they were talking about most of the time because they are so elevated in their healing and I am working on it lol but this conversation was love at its core. It was safe, healing and unconditional.
Thank you guys. ❤
There is a great deal of learning and healing potential from listening to Whitney's and Kate's conversation. As adults, I think we tend to misremember how vulnerable and confused *we* were as adolescents - partly because we were so eager/desperate to be "all grown up" at the time. I am a high school educator, and this conversation really resonated with my training and my experiences. It is frighteningly easy for adult authority figures to do tremendous harm to the teens in our care. It can come from a clueless mistake, like the administrator who accused Kate of lying about the cyberbullying she experienced. It can come from predatory behavior like the drama teacher's. Or it can be a wide variety of things in between. Those of us who are responsible for kids cannot make ourselves perfect people, but we can keep reminding ourselves of the painful consequences our actions can have on them, even unintentionally.
This one had a lot of soul in it. Great podcast
I have been such a fan of both Kate and Whitney’s for so long, it is so cool to find out after all these years that they KNOW EACH OTHER?! What a plot twist. Such a cool conversation, please have Kate back!
Thank you both for this real ass conversation. For those of us with complicated pasts and friendships you guys showed what could be possible on the other side of it. It was brave of you both to share that.
Best episode yet. Please have her back on. I could hear about your high school stories for hours!
Absolutely a MOMENT in podcasting. This is incredible healing. GOOD FOR YOU WHITNEY FUCK YES.
This was such a good episode, I relistened when I ran out of things to do in the car on the way to TN lol also fun fact my husband and I named our chinchilla Theodora bc she was our favorite character from Haunting of Hill House hahahah
I loved listening to people who are so successful talk about their insecurities and the weird/cringe/not kind things they did and thought when clouded with jealousy and insecurity. It was very relatable. 💛
probably the best podcast episode ive ever seen from any show
Such a fantastic episode. Kate's closing statement about talking about real shit with Whitney was beautiful. I can't wait to see her on the pod again. :D
Inspired to be a better version of myself, how to define forgiveness, “that two things can be true at the same time”, and to embrace 👯♀️friendship, not fear it or devalue it. Big stuff! ❤❤❤ so appreciate you
Watching and listening Whitney explain her experience is so heartbreaking. We want to take ownership of our role in these situations, but that man still preyed on her. That is not okay
This was so good… Bobby Koehler is a LEGEND!!!! Whitney I’m happy you brought up The Crucible… you and Kate were AMAZING… and Alec Silver was brilliant… interview was spot on… exactly how I remember you all in HS… keep crushing it… teacher got fired later btw for hooking up with a student… go figure smh
This is my favorite episode and I don’t why it doesn’t have more attention. It’s just real life conversation.
This is the most fascinating conversation. I learned some stuff, so fun to watch. I''m hooked, more please!
This conversation will help so many people. I know it helped me
I love Kate and this was a great episode to see the vulnerability and honesty when discussing the past and how people think on different levels going through high school. Well done ladies, and you better stay friends!!!
How freaking cool is Kate! Great interview Whitney! That was fabulous!!
Favourite episode of the year ! Love Kate, bring her back please
Incredible episode and seemed to be so healing for both of them too. Love love loved it so much!
best podcast ive watched in a while, i always appreciate when people are really honest even about things such as "jealousy" which can be misconstrued
Thanks for this!!!! I’m a gay dude that is also a survivor. The two don’t have anything to do with each other. This conversation is beyond helpful and I just can not thank you enough. ❤
Wow I didn't know I needed to hear it but Whitney saying "You're allowed to be in love with me" was very comforting.
THIS IS THE KIND OF CONTENT WE WANT WHITNEY!!!!
WOW! What a GREAT episode!!!! Please do more with other people from your past! Such great talks!
yess i love her!!! obsessed with hill house and bly manor
this episode was so fucking good. just honest and smart and so entertaining. i listened to it bc i’m a huge fan of kate but i wasn’t expecting such an eye opening conversation. things i didn’t know i needed to hear. i really really hope she comes back bc this dynamic is great and i’d love to hear more. ik this episode is a few months old but i keep coming back to rewatch. maybe she can come back once they start promoting the fall of the house of usher.
Ugh this podcast was so needed and also I loved! Can we please have a part two just talking about random things and of course her shows and projects please 😩😩😩
And also maybe a part three with all three of them 😩
Perhaps the most interesting conversation Whitney has ever had.
I clicked on this 💯 for Kate! Loved her in all the Netflix Mike Flanagan shows. Had no idea they knew each other from high school.
I loved this!!! I want more please!! These real and raw conversations are something I didn't know I needed, thank you for being so vulnerable ❤️
Rewatching this for the 10th time. Something about this conversation is just so real.
This was soooo good and so important. Loved every minute of this conversation and related so much.
My new fave episode of the podcast! Like that was SO good!!! ❤
Kate admitting she cried when Whitney got picked up is so real
Katie is one of my favourite actresses. She's phenomenal.
Omg you two can we make this movie !!! Both of your stories and how they come together and how you both like come out the other side is so inspiring, and synchronized!
But I also have a wilder story !
I'm dying at some of these references; the hs names, etc. I am much older than you two, so it's crazy it all still tracks. jessica mcclintock, yup! owned it lol
This was unexpectedly amazing.
The best episode so far. Loved the realness.
1. I loved that prom photo of y’all.
2. I completely forgot about hill house Kate was hot af and that funeral scene that was long taped had me shook, completely genius.
3. It seems everyone has had eating disorders, but Whitney has the pics to prove it. That was heartbreaking seeing those pics.
this episode in particular is Good For Me
This is the absolute best episode! Love seeing you both heal and grow! 💜
this has such a wholesome energy loved this
Omg you guys should totally start a podcast together expically since some of this stuff will take longer to unpack 😂
This was so special and so real. I feel every part of this deep in my chest.
Kate Siegel is fantastic. Haunting of Hill House is so fucking good. Absolutely terrifying but also deeply moving. Almost like a Six Feet Under vibe in the early episodes (the highest of possible compliments).
OMG I totally agree with you! A fellow SFU & Haunting fan!!
@@aditisharma3160 So good! Both so dark and funny and beautiful ... more than the sum of their parts?
@@RichardPallardy they're both so amazing!! I thought only I compared them :D such similar ethos!
@@aditisharma3160 Exactly! Glad someone else sees the parallels! 😎
Love the podcast and how self aware Whitney is. A couple things I thought during this podcast. Whitney threw out the rhetoric that her abuser must have been abused. That’s dangerous rhetoric to be perpetuating. By that train of thought then Whitney would eventually abuse someone as well. That’s one of the reasons Is was hard for me to reveal my abuse because I was scared people would think, I’d turn into an abuser. Additionally, many times guests will come on and speak their truth but Whitney is quick to shut them down and explain what she believes something actually is. It’s important to be aware that you can be more versed in a particular subject but it doesn’t mean you’re right on everything. Discuss your perspective on a subject without telling someone they are wrong. Food for thought.
Whitney when you were describing your childhood and your circumstances regarding older men in a low income household I COMPLETELY FELT HEARD thank you for sharing your experience even when the whole room was like mmmm no
When do general media realize that we want real conversations instead of those cookie cutter nice answers. This was awesome!
This is so hilarious and relatable to my high school friendships and experiences it’s Aaawesommme!!
I LOOOOOVED THE EPISODE! I hope she comes back!
You both made it!!! proud of you all, love you both soooo much.🖤Kate I can relate to you in ways I can't even explain.🖤 truly amazing you both went to high school together brilliant.
Unrelated to the video, but i once left a slightly rude comment under one of your videos so id like to apologize for that
never been more obsessed with watching 2 women talk about high school before in my life
amazing episode 🔥💜 having complicated feelings with female friendships myself, this type of conversations shows me new possibilities to rebuild important ones and create new. thank you for the honesty and vulnerability.
I appreciated that 'the Office' reference from Kate at the end.
This was amazing! Please more episodes with you 3🙏🙌
Midnight Mass is a MUST WATCH. Such a crazy show on Netflix
That was such an amazing episode!
Thanks for talking about real shit with genuine curiosity.
I feel like this was healing even for some of us viewers to watch!🥰💕
Please have her back. I love this episode so much
LOOOOVE the two of you together!!! We need moreeee
Wow it's wild to see someone match Witney's energy. You can actually see some of the genisis of their personalities!
Wow this was SUCH a compelling conversation 😢 Kate is awesome
What a great interview! Whitney and Kate were so great together!
imagine having gone to this high school and just. listening
Oof I cried when Whitney said "do it to me, but don't do it to my friend." 💔
I’m SOOO glad I watched this. Amazing
am i only one one tht was sobbing because i remembered how suppressed i was during high school years..?
Sabrina Sophia, all of us shy people are very suppressed.
My favorite episode yet.
I’ve wanted this for SO LONG
I love how Kate Siegel is always so fucking honest. I love her and her incredible talent.