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  • What is the best handling production road car? Tiff Needell and Mark Higgins finds out. Top Gear, 2000
    Copyright: BBC Worldwide

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  • @kicksoffs
    @kicksoffs 10 років тому +105

    Wow I miss those days. Life was so much simpler and easier I could cry.

    • @scottallen6970
      @scottallen6970 5 років тому +4

      I know, I agree

    • @aaffero
      @aaffero 3 роки тому +2

      Tu comentario fue hace 7 años, estamos en 2021 haha imagínate haha

    • @memewolf7719
      @memewolf7719 3 роки тому

      i miss your days life was sooo much easier i could cry

  • @noto1070
    @noto1070 11 років тому +41

    Have a z3 3.0 myself. It is a blast to drive.

    • @tombrown868
      @tombrown868 3 роки тому +1

      Me too, awesome car.

    • @inconspicuoususer6908
      @inconspicuoususer6908 3 роки тому +1

      @@tombrown868 you do to

    • @Blacktop_z3
      @Blacktop_z3 9 місяців тому

      Have a 2.8 myself now, best purchase I've ever made

    • @elitesennabubble
      @elitesennabubble 8 місяців тому

      I have the 3.2 Z3M same spec as the one used in this film which is just the best

  • @Fatal_Inertia
    @Fatal_Inertia 8 місяців тому +5

    I had a Z3 facelift for a few years and that really was the best handling car I've ever owned, even compared to the NB miata I had before it.

  • @Chris1709i
    @Chris1709i 10 років тому +58

    I've got a Z3M and I couldn't agree more Tiff !!

    • @greg4england
      @greg4england 4 роки тому +3

      I LOVE MY Z3M , 20 YEARS OLD THIS MONTH :)

  • @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights
    @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights 10 років тому +132

    What is this? Top gear but informative and a proper conclusion to the tests? I'm so confused

    • @88omair
      @88omair 9 років тому +10

      Boooring, all that matters is POOWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER :D

    • @juanpablovelasquez3874
      @juanpablovelasquez3874 9 років тому +3

      Omair Sheikh noo, u wrong.

    • @DaytonCarCare
      @DaytonCarCare 5 років тому +1

      I know but not as fun as seeing Clarkson drifting a Mercedes Brabus around the track ua-cam.com/video/ChwrBqiw7VY/v-deo.html

    • @233kosta
      @233kosta 4 роки тому +1

      It's pre-idiot TG :P

    • @LelouchVelvet
      @LelouchVelvet 4 роки тому +3

      It's because it's actual drivers driving, not those apes from TopGear.

  • @Mike649foxx
    @Mike649foxx 11 років тому +15

    So true sir. I have the 3.0i version and every other car I drive just does not match up. I love the z3. Awsome car.

  • @brock6156
    @brock6156 3 роки тому +9

    The bimmer almost clipped him in the intro 😂

  • @smallben7744
    @smallben7744 3 роки тому +8

    The Z3 is beautiful

  • @frederickyoung3003
    @frederickyoung3003 8 років тому +17

    this is one of the best/most entertaining car review videos I have ever seen on youtube! thank you for this post

  • @Rguy54
    @Rguy54 11 років тому +53

    Biggest regret: Once you have the Z3, it becomes very hard to give it up for anything else.

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 5 років тому +1

      No not really

    • @shinigami117s8
      @shinigami117s8 4 роки тому

      I love mine

    • @MrAnticaArte
      @MrAnticaArte Рік тому +1

      Probably you never drove any other sport car then.

    • @abelramos8652
      @abelramos8652 Рік тому +1

      Biggest regret is not buy one when you get the chance

    • @gixxerhoff7502
      @gixxerhoff7502 8 місяців тому

      I do love mine but the subframe….. really lowers its own bar

  • @xtlmad
    @xtlmad 11 років тому +9

    I drive the S54b32 M coupé with 325hp, its like the roadster only stiffer...it's a great to drive

    • @BRAINFxck10
      @BRAINFxck10 2 роки тому +1

      @Ez Pz good take the worse version, too many people want the coupe anyways 😂

  • @IvkoPivko12tka
    @IvkoPivko12tka 11 років тому +4

    I have 306 GTi in perfect condition and low mileage = car with passion, smiling all the time !

  • @FrapsYou
    @FrapsYou 10 років тому +42

    This is the real Top Gear.

    • @mk3a
      @mk3a 4 роки тому +4

      R.I.P. Top Gear
      1977-2015

    • @milesh.9615
      @milesh.9615 3 роки тому +3

      Yea but the best part of real top gear was clarkson, may, and Hammond

  • @lordki1635
    @lordki1635 3 роки тому +2

    That reverse entry in the evo😍😍😍😍😍

  • @emperorpalpatine6637
    @emperorpalpatine6637 7 років тому +17

    When u ever owned a Z u never would sell it again.
    The comfort and Quality is very good for an roadster.

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania 5 років тому

      Oi just what me wantin for a romp on the road is floaty comfortable suspension waftin' aaaalllll about goin' wayward

    • @salami99
      @salami99 3 роки тому

      @@ezicarus8216 nah going 8 to 15 grand now , just drove one today.

    • @salami99
      @salami99 3 роки тому +1

      @ASMR James Fuck yeah! love that. Im tyring to get a 3.0 here for under 180k miles and there between 9k and 15 k depending on milage and the wheels. usually 5 owners and accidents too. That 2.8 price is a steal.

  • @drsage1626
    @drsage1626 5 років тому +5

    Owed Supras and Mitsubishi 3000 GT's, and now have a beautiful yellow 99 M Roadster......MOST
    FUN you can have with your clothes on. Had it for 6 years, and live in Minnesota so only driven in the summer. Put 10,000 miles trouble free miles on it.
    Perfectly matched transmission and motor will put a smile on your face every time you drive it. Now with 70K miles on it still looks and drives like new and I bet I could sell it rignt now and at least break
    even.

  • @Mike649foxx
    @Mike649foxx 11 років тому +1

    Me too my friend. The damn thing never gets old!!

  • @aregal
    @aregal 11 років тому +12

    Maybe they should rethink the verdict and look at the M Roadster's subframe after a couple of those drifts. Haha.

  • @mohmdakel
    @mohmdakel 5 місяців тому

    That Pigouet aged so gracefully

  • @wwilliam7
    @wwilliam7 12 років тому +1

    in wikipedia its written about 306: wikipedia: the 306 was widely regarded as the best hohatch of its time (90s) and all magazines and car programs says the same, love this car

  • @TheSpyChecker
    @TheSpyChecker 10 років тому +15

    Drove a z3, and it was great, but the Toyota MR2 handles better! So does the miata....
    But the BMW has a much better power-to-weight ratio.
    I love roadsters haha. need to look into a TT

    • @nanocyde_artist
      @nanocyde_artist 7 років тому +4

      MR2 has better turn-in due to low polar moment of inertia but it is twitchy and edgy like the Ferrari in the video. Not quite as 'fun' but more technically rewarding.

    • @nutsackmania
      @nutsackmania 5 років тому

      Oi!

  • @alterglobo
    @alterglobo 11 років тому +2

    THANK YOU!!!
    I was looking to see this video again for years.
    Shit, I don't consider myself a gray dino, but oh... manual gearboxes, mechanical LSDs, hydraulic steerings. THOSE WERE DRIVERS' CARS!!!

  • @ridm34
    @ridm34 7 років тому +7

    3:57 lol

  • @DesoloZantas
    @DesoloZantas Рік тому +1

    1:43 *Final Fantasy Battle commences*

  • @AndyC3.0
    @AndyC3.0 3 роки тому +6

    The funny thing is that these Bmw z3 to this day still outperforms any current day Miata ! At over 300 horsepower these little Z3 M are deliciously evil !

    • @christopherjohnston6343
      @christopherjohnston6343 2 роки тому

      The handling on the Z3 non M models never impressed me that much. Have no issues keeping up on twisty roads with much slower cars

  • @workingclassperson2124
    @workingclassperson2124 4 роки тому +1

    Ah good ol top gear fun!

  • @flatlandtom
    @flatlandtom 11 років тому

    You got that right, I've had mine for 10 years now.

  • @marcginsberg6034
    @marcginsberg6034 11 років тому

    my neighbor had one of those hatchback z3 m and that car was so much fun

  • @tc5111
    @tc5111 4 роки тому +3

    Prefer my Z3 2.2. to my Boxster 3.2.

  • @7Mario777
    @7Mario777 6 років тому +6

    I also have M roadster ❤

  • @parkerblockley
    @parkerblockley 11 років тому +1

    good choice

  • @OhHeyThereGuy
    @OhHeyThereGuy 11 років тому +1

    That's 99%, not 100%. One car that immediately comes to mind is the original Renault 5 Le Car, which was mid-engine fwd and sold quite well. One could also go by the argument that while all fwd cars are front-engine (except they're not, as it's been pointed out), not all front-engine cars are fwd. Assuming leaves you with the potential of being wrong. Fully designating a car's powertrain puts it all out there in a factual manner.

  • @folst.3331
    @folst.3331 Рік тому

    It's funny to see how everyone here did this 10 years ago i personally love my z3 and wouldn't trade it for the world

  • @bryanlatimer7653
    @bryanlatimer7653 Рік тому +1

    I owned that exact Z3 M Roadster in SIlver and have owned and driven several sports cars and its is easily the best handling car I've ever driven! Most of that grip is derived mechanically from superior design as opposed to computer assistance. Just a brilliant and totally analog car! MANUAL ONLY!!!

    • @o0lunchboxxx0o91
      @o0lunchboxxx0o91 Рік тому

      Lol I just baught a arctic silver metallic m roadster lol it’s amazing and it has a black stripe right down the middle my first manual ever I love it

  • @fhowland
    @fhowland 3 роки тому

    Love seeing that Peugeot with its fourth wheel off the ground

  • @ChiTuSai
    @ChiTuSai 2 роки тому

    much KANSEI DORIFTO action here!

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 11 років тому +1

    yes i know all that lol.. read my original comment. my point was 99% of FWD production cars have the engine over the front wheels.. so it makes no sense to say front engine'd fwd.. the logical thing would be to simply just say fwd.
    i didn't indicate that all front engine'd cars are fwd.. i was just saying basically all fwd's are front engine'd

  • @pcwmsn
    @pcwmsn 8 років тому +53

    "The answer is always miata"

    • @jochem1986
      @jochem1986 7 років тому +2

      pcwmsn I have a stock 1994 MX5. Stock suspension, stock sway bars. It wobbles around over any undulations, it unsettles when it’s not supposed to and it grips when you want it to let go a bit. Not a great setup.

    • @emperorpalpatine6637
      @emperorpalpatine6637 7 років тому +2

      The answer is the z3 with m suspenssions

    • @jochem1986
      @jochem1986 6 років тому

      I don't take you seriously, you know.

    • @7Mario777
      @7Mario777 6 років тому +3

      pcwmsn the answer is M roadster😉

    • @papatorr3669
      @papatorr3669 6 років тому +2

      My stock '95 Miata has a very fun sporty economy car feel. I could put narrower tires on my '97 2.8 z3 and get all the 'fun' feel of the Miata, and much more, like sports car acceleration! But I would have to modify/upgrade every suspension and powertrain component in my Miata to get the z3 performance. Miata is NOT always the answer. The newer Miatas are still sporty cars, the 2.8, 3.0, and 3.2 z3s and z4s were Sports Cars!

  • @MyHandsAreCats
    @MyHandsAreCats 12 років тому

    I drive the M52B28 version of that Roadster.....tis quite fun

  • @MyHandsAreCats
    @MyHandsAreCats 11 років тому

    The chassis can handle a lot more power than they make stock. Some suspension, tires, and brakes and it's good for a lot more.

  • @bohanan5851
    @bohanan5851 4 роки тому

    That EVO literally threw herself into that corner and flew out.

  • @Human123229750
    @Human123229750 11 років тому

    The rally driver's from Volkswagen. Lamborghini, the biggest rival of Ferrari, is owned by VW, as many of you know, although this was likely to be filmed before VW bought Lamborghini.

  • @niipheus
    @niipheus 11 років тому

    There is few cars with rear engine fwd layout.

  • @DB-fn3fz
    @DB-fn3fz 3 роки тому +1

    4:06 insane

    • @radoni0
      @radoni0 3 роки тому

      check "drift backwards entry compilation"

    • @DB-fn3fz
      @DB-fn3fz 3 роки тому

      @@radoni0 I've seen it many times in person, but on cars that are tuned for it. Never before with such an unsuspecting road car.

    • @DB-fn3fz
      @DB-fn3fz 3 роки тому

      @@ezicarus8216 i don't care who you are or where you come from, a plus 90 degree drift at that speed in that car is unsuspecting for most people because it certainly does not happen on public roads. If so it's extremely rare.

  • @rvpsilva9213
    @rvpsilva9213 3 роки тому

    6:00
    What a reaction 😏

  • @nicholehenderson5015
    @nicholehenderson5015 Рік тому

    The conclusion was the z3

  • @deadmansfire
    @deadmansfire 12 років тому

    Actually ,this is the late "Old Top Gear" :D Because early top gear means 70-80s.
    And the New Top Gear is totally different to the old one.

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 12 років тому +1

    why do people say "front engine'd, front wheel drive"? aren't all fwd's front engine'd?

  • @Sheehy223
    @Sheehy223 11 років тому +2

    I have come up with a conclusion. KONY 2012

  • @sli353
    @sli353 3 роки тому

    A handling-focused car video with no NSX?

  • @michaelsmitten9240
    @michaelsmitten9240 8 років тому +10

    Top Gear? 5th Gear!

    • @tom100hp
      @tom100hp 8 років тому +6

      original top gear!

    • @michaelsmitten9240
      @michaelsmitten9240 8 років тому +4

      Oops, yes, sorry, my mistake - I only started seriously watching Top Gear when Jeremy Clarkson was the front man and saw Tiff Needell as the opposition, not realising he was a previous presenter of TG, which started in 1977 with Angela Rippon

  • @AttilaThebung
    @AttilaThebung 11 років тому

    How does bolting a turbo on a Miata make it handle better? If anything, it'd be more of a handful.

  • @LostCalibre
    @LostCalibre 5 років тому

    Where's the part where Tiff Nedell pulls a full 360 while driving the Z3M Roadster ???

  • @Khazar01
    @Khazar01 11 років тому

    Well dude, simply said, because of that 1% everybody says "front engined, fwd" instead of just "fwd" :)

  • @khatmcgurk9444
    @khatmcgurk9444 4 роки тому

    Turn left to go right! Lightning McQueen!

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 11 років тому

    name a few that are an everyday sight on the road..

  • @CaptainTeebsHotels
    @CaptainTeebsHotels 11 років тому +3

    The test is "best handling road car" not "best car for people who are shit at driving". If someone can't control a car they shouldn't be driving

  • @BlownMiataGuy
    @BlownMiataGuy 11 років тому

    Mazda mx-5 miata is great handling car also!! Especially with a turbo. ;-)

  • @puppers208
    @puppers208 12 років тому

    Dude I thought the ferrari was going to take him outxD

  • @tighematthew
    @tighematthew 3 роки тому

    Cheers UA-cam 9 years to late

  • @autofiras
    @autofiras 6 років тому +1

    The answer is always Nissan Xterra

  • @LeonAllanDavis
    @LeonAllanDavis 7 років тому +4

    Several surprises here...
    I thought the Brits would go for the Poo-joe... Nice and safe and relatively slow...
    I also thought they bring out the Z3 1.9 4-cylinder...the politically-correct version of the Roadster. Instead, they show up with an M.
    What's with no car with a diesel lawnmower engine?
    And they actually tested a Ferrari in this group? Why?

  • @LifeInElSalvador
    @LifeInElSalvador 7 років тому

    nice !

  • @A1DJPaul
    @A1DJPaul 3 роки тому

    BRILLIANT Motoring TV.
    Just How it should be, NOT the COMEDY Show it Became.
    Real ACTUAL Drivers. Tiff Needell Was a Racing Driver. NO WHITE SUIT & HELMET to Exceed 30 Mph. !
    Top GEAR Lost the Plot Decades ago, & Became Impossible to Watch.
    Top Gear Was a Motoring TV Show,
    Then it Became Suitable for 4 yr old Boys & 7 yrs old Girls to Watch With GRANDMOTHER.
    Certainly Not for Car Buyers & Motoring Enthusiasts.
    Top Gear Should have Been an Advert for BARBIE Doll Accessories .

  • @niipheus
    @niipheus 11 років тому

    No one didn't say that they are everyday cars :D

  • @NavsGarage
    @NavsGarage 3 роки тому

    damn I own that car

  • @AttilaThebung
    @AttilaThebung 11 років тому +1

    The BMW was a bit skittish...

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 5 років тому

      If it's not understeering it's overstearing like the Ferrari

  • @willow061
    @willow061 2 роки тому

    Glad I bought a Z3 and not a Ferrari

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 11 років тому

    lol so that's why there is absolutely no reason to say front 'engine'd fwd' :p

  • @freshjive818
    @freshjive818 12 років тому

    use to have a GTI-6 and loved it loads and now funnily enough i own a Z3 M which is even better, it is an animal!! though i wouldnt wack it down a B-road as fast as the GTI-6 simply because of its unruly back end, loads of power, light rear end on tight road = crash! great fun on the more open twisty roads though ;) never driven an evo 6 but ive always wanted too they look like great fun and a bit of turbo wallop always gives the car a little drama, ferrari's great but way out of my price range

  • @deadmansfire
    @deadmansfire 12 років тому

    Yeah,And he is a real race driver.Clarkson is more of an entertainer and journalist - never a race driver.

  • @ruddin1122
    @ruddin1122 11 років тому

    ferrari sounds like Vtec

  • @1954telecaster
    @1954telecaster 11 років тому

    M3

  • @mxp231
    @mxp231 11 років тому

    KONY 2013

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 12 років тому

    HAHAHAHAHA... I KNEW there would be some idiot with that comment as soon as I saw Tiff. lol

  • @EndritBajramiEshte21
    @EndritBajramiEshte21 2 роки тому

    FWD is good for handling

  • @johnjohannesjuan
    @johnjohannesjuan 11 років тому

    how can a turbo improve handling?

  • @samin2012
    @samin2012 7 років тому +1

    if you compare the power to weight ratios and the weight, mx5 should handle better than the z3 which is heavier. correct me if I'm wrong

    • @mergimfera11
      @mergimfera11 7 років тому +1

      samin2012 you're wrong.

    • @jochem1986
      @jochem1986 7 років тому

      samin2012 with these cars, it’s more about suspension setup and personal preference. The MX5 is lighter, but this means less controllable slides. However, the M Roadster has a wider track and wider tires, which also makes it more prone to snap oversteer. The suspension and the sway bars make a huge difference with these cars, and they can both be tuned to handling perfection.
      (Oh, and don’t forget about chassis bracing. But not too much, a flexible chassis is a forgiving chassis)

    • @emperorpalpatine6637
      @emperorpalpatine6637 7 років тому +3

      The z destroys the mx5 in quality and handling got both cars

    • @jochem1986
      @jochem1986 6 років тому

      Don't believe you. Prove it.

    • @7Mario777
      @7Mario777 6 років тому +1

      samin2012 MX-5 is a lot lower league than M roadster!This can not be compared...

  • @lijkenkist1
    @lijkenkist1 10 років тому

    Hi everybody. Does anyone know what BMW it is at 00:16? Thanks!

    • @I7HVS
      @I7HVS 10 років тому +3

      bmw z3 coupe

    • @MichaelMacCracken
      @MichaelMacCracken 10 років тому

      I7HVS Its a Convertible roadster, not a coupe

    • @Oscarl123
      @Oscarl123 10 років тому +2

      Michael MacCracken That's definitely a coupe.

    • @MichaelMacCracken
      @MichaelMacCracken 10 років тому +1

      Oh shit, didnt think they would show a coupe when they focused on a roadster

    • @StPaul76
      @StPaul76 10 років тому

      Oscar L
      No, it is a Z3M Roadster with a removable hard top on. I have a Z3 Coupé myself and I can tell the difference.

  • @yabba234
    @yabba234 11 років тому

    isnt that guy on fifth gear now? ^^ why did he change?

  • @Pequenobote
    @Pequenobote 5 років тому

    Does this apply to modern era?😂

  • @TMKuro
    @TMKuro Рік тому +1

    Such a nonsense and misleading review. Think of the target viewer of this show - definitely not a racing driver with a wide track as a playground. Roads are way too narrow for such powerslides. And as much as I like the Z3M, Joe Average does not have the skills to catch the bimmer once it breakes loose like 8n this video.

  • @Gwenalltapowain
    @Gwenalltapowain 12 років тому

    BMW z3 roadster owner!!!!! It goes like stink!!!
    Always had beammers!!!!!
    Best cars value for money in the world!

    • @VaunShiz
      @VaunShiz 5 років тому

      Because they tank in value because children make their electronics

  • @frankfitzpatrick5300
    @frankfitzpatrick5300 7 років тому +1

    Bad audio

  • @howardkahn4330
    @howardkahn4330 3 роки тому

    what this video shows is why not to buy a used sports car!

  • @ngilbert9872
    @ngilbert9872 12 років тому

    Ah, really? Fair enough...learn something new every day... :-)
    "Old Top Gear" it is...I still like Tiff better than Clarkson.

  • @jaymoore2154
    @jaymoore2154 3 роки тому

    Thank God I'm not european, otherwise I'd have to believe VW makes real performance cars

  • @nutfukkinjob
    @nutfukkinjob 11 років тому

    wtf are you high!? I think you should read my comment again!
    I SAID: "99%". NOT 100% !.. and yeah!.. "immediately"!, because everyone drives them!.. lol
    secondly.. I am aware not all cars with the "engine mounted in-the-front" are "front-wheel-drive"!.. I ALREADY STATED THAT!! how can people be so blatantly oblivious.

  • @VaunShiz
    @VaunShiz 5 років тому

    Paid for by bmw

  • @soundseeker63
    @soundseeker63 12 років тому

    This test is silly. Everyone knows the 360 is not even the best handling ferrari, let alone the best handling car.
    And I don't think the Z3 was BMWs finest achievement either.
    Also I think its fair to say what translates as thrilling on a wide open airfield is not necessarily what works and is useable on the road.
    As a road car the evo would shit all over them. And actually the pug is probably the best car in terms of fun per £, with everyday useability. So I dissagree with their verdict.

  • @cagiva125cc
    @cagiva125cc 5 років тому

    Where is the integra ! 1998 dc2 would wipe the floor with all of them lol I've had one and stuffed 2 of the cars in this video in street races, so don't think there choice in cars is right really lol

  • @ISirSmoke
    @ISirSmoke 12 років тому

    lol, fail

  • @S0F1AN
    @S0F1AN 11 років тому

    fifth gear*****

  • @wwilliam7
    @wwilliam7 13 років тому +10

    love the 306, its one of the best rally car ever with its beutiful handling and funny drive

  • @workoutfanatic7873
    @workoutfanatic7873 9 років тому +6

    where's the S2000? certainly one of the best roadsters, if the not best, of the last decade.

    • @dominykasd
      @dominykasd 9 років тому +1

      workoutfanatic787 I guess that episode was shoot when s2000 was just announced.

    • @stef500i
      @stef500i 8 років тому

      +workoutfanatic787 video is for the best handling cars, s2000 is a great car but not even close to good handling cars...

    • @клиентыипоклоники
      @клиентыипоклоники 8 років тому

      +workoutfanatic787 z3m

    • @Toyota4Life
      @Toyota4Life 8 років тому

      +workoutfanatic787 lol butt hurt fan boy. the best ? get over yourself

  • @MrAnticaArte
    @MrAnticaArte Рік тому

    Two options here:
    1. BMW paid them lots of money;
    2. They were on drugs.

  • @beckythill9169
    @beckythill9169 Рік тому

    Z3 and M roadster are not the same,
    also S2000 should be on this list but maybe not available at that time.

  • @BlownMiataGuy
    @BlownMiataGuy 11 років тому +5

    Mazda miata's are already one of the best handling cars in the world. Now with the turbo u will have more power & will have the ability for wheels to spin & really drift them corners. ;-)

  • @ngilbert9872
    @ngilbert9872 12 років тому +1

    This is early Top Gear...Clarkson and crew didn't come along until later. Quite frankly, I miss Tiff...for many reasons.

    • @cw205mi16
      @cw205mi16 4 роки тому

      Clarkson was on Top Gear from 1988, before Tiff

  • @Ranggadhinugroho
    @Ranggadhinugroho 5 років тому +1

    Mazda MX5 is the best