Was L Actually Evil All Along? - Death Note
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- Опубліковано 19 жов 2019
- Was L More Sinister Than We Thought? - Death Note. In this video, we go over the entirety of Death Note lore to breakdown and analyze L Lawliet and his character and just how smart he really is. Did L actually consider Light Yagami his friend? Was he really a force of justice, or was he more sinister and evil than we thought?
[Includes lore and information for Death Note Manga and anime, Death Note: How to Read, The BB Investigation Novel, the File #15 Specials, and the L - Change the World novel]
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I was pretty exhausted when I recorded this, but fits the video aesthetic eh?
Anyway, who do you think was on the right side of history in the end?
Q&A (Will Edit as more questions or contentions come up I think are important to talk about)
Q. L didn't fall out of his chair because it confirmed his theories, he was only acting shocked, why did you say otherwise?
A. In how to read, Truth 05, "Why does L believe Misa's message about Shinigami?" it describes that it did actually wrap up all of L's theories on the case, and that he was the one figuring everything out while everyone else was freaking out.
Q. Why did you say Near was trying to take Light out due to a sense of pride?
A. I'm referring to what both Near and Light refer to as "The Battle of Pride" between L and Light being continued. This scan is on the screen as I say it.
As a bonus, in the Bonus Near manga chapter, the L Monsters scene is more direct. Where he says he doesn't do things for justice and so on. But the anime version was used simply for aesthetic purposes.
oh I didn't see this
Team Light
When is kratos vs Thanos?
Can you do composite link vs sora? And can you power scale link from Zelda?
Seth basically summed up Death Note plot an ideologies in a nutshell
All i know is that when L died, i was sad
i sobbed-
Why he is the bad guy
lynnsundrop fr smdh, i was so upset
@@lynnsundrop 😲😲Rem was a girl all the while ???
@@Youkai_arts Yeah,in ep when L gets killed Light says "Find her"(Rem)
I’ve always believed L and Light were the opposite sides of the same coin.
Yup. The 2 could've been best friends; that was obvious when Light lost his memory. They were a great team, accomplished much more than L does investigating on his own.
Hiory Ittai intensifies
yea?? they kinda keep repeating that in the show. like the fiance girl or whatever "you reminded me of L"
Same here, and they’re both the same because they both do bad things in order to get what they want
Just like Batman and Joker
I'm way smarter than L cause I knew Light was kira ever since the first ep
Geniu-WAIT!! As far as I remember the term 'Kira' was first coined in ep 2 so how did you know it since ep 1? You are lying.
@@arpitamathur4945 I knew Kira's characteristics before he even became Kira.I was always a step ahead of L
@@owaisanwar6603 lol true.
Owais Anwar
I > J > K > L
Math checks out
Same
“I can’t imagine a world without Light!”
“Yes, it would be rather dark”
How does L not have diabetes
@@lucsonphilogene3105 I read a comment that said canonically, L has low blood sugar. idk if that’s actually true but that would explain why he’s always eating sweets but never gains weight or contracts medical conditions
bat bts thats literally a joke by L, lol this video got to you good job L isnt who he thinks he is
Clade that wasn’t the point of my comment, it was just a quote that was memorable...
@@brie_trinh4914 It should be the point because thats what L meant in the episode, no theory of it thats just what it is, and you managed to comment it on a video about L being evil hence why i commented hahah
He would be more sinister if he ate with his feet
He’s probably the type of guy who would do that
There's a manga about that
@@AnimeFan-wd5pq Imma need the sauce chief
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i love how this show is still relevant a decade later
The Manga takes place in 2004
Unknown name that's still a decade
@@12DAMDO a decade is 10 years. If I was born in 2019 I can't say I was born a decade ago. That's so dumb.
@@itsllama7471 r u stupid
Death Note is very very interesting. I can tell the author is a genius. I love Death Note ever since I was young.
L was apathetic. I wouldn't call him necessarily evil, he just couldn't care about anything else other than his puzzles. Light was the same but with a God complex and was social af
L wanted to win that's it. He hates losing that's why he risked his life to catch him
Yeah exactly
His social abilities made him better than L
Oh noooo he stopped all wars and murder but he HAD A GOD COMPLEX while doing it so hes evil
@@christiantaylor1495 in my opinion, he's still evil. Yes, he solved wars and shit but the way he do it it's through fear, through selfish motivations, he doesn't want peace for the greater good, he wants to bring peace to become a god. But that's not the way to do it, it doesn't matter that there's no longer war or crime, because the greatest menace, it's the one who calls himself a savior. Is like the train thing, he killed a couple scums of society, just to save a lot more of people, but doing so, makes you worse than criminals, some of those criminals had family and a whole life, Light forgot something and that is.. humans are complex, some of those criminals could kill because they needed the money or different reasons etc. It's totally unfair to kill them without questioning. But that just my opinión
If you take a character, literally any character, and say "Imagine everything they do has an evil intent behind it" doesn't it always make them evil??
that's what I wanted to write
You do have a point
Kind of, but at some point, the premise would fall apart when applying it to someone who is not evil. This is not the case for L. He does a ton of morally ambiguous or outright wrong things supposedly for the greater good. When you apply the lense of evil intent to L, you can easily derive a consistently “evil” character from his own actions.
Death Note is trash
@@lovelyyoutuber2844 You have a dragon ball heroes pfp.
Here’s the thing: I never saw L as a good person but he wasn’t evil. He’s more of an anti hero than a villain. Much like Deadpool or Venom, they aren’t good but you can’t really say that they’re evil either.
No, most incarnations of venom are evil.
I was referring to the 2018 Tom Hardy Venom specifically.
@@l.pricetag.5207 that makes more sense. Sorry about the confusion.
Venom is evil wasn’t until agent venom he became an anti hero L is in no way like either of them he’s more good he actually is just neutral more than anything I wouldn’t say he was an anti hero Bc he did nothing technically illegally he also never wanted to kill Kira just stop him
Raidens Hat True. To me L was definitely the hero of the story but I can’t deny that he’s not exactly the nicest person in the world.
L's kicks are comparable to Eight gate Guy's
Yes
L’s kicks are comparable to Batman kicking Spectre.
As a wise man said
Yes yes yes yes yes
And sanji
D y n a m i c e n t r y
I still think L still thought Light as a “friend” but did also hate him...like a love hate relationship...that’s just me
I think light liked him too when he forgot his memory but kira just got him
yagmur coban No,he never did like L. He always has the intention of killing him.
@@commandixnostalgia2321 i'm talking bat when he lost his memory they had a good bond then
Near you are nothing compared to l
It is very boring without l
I found Rem, a death god, to be the one with the most unselfish intentions.
@James Lucas Yes, but not to the extend of everyone else. She actually had a selfless motivation for her actions. She did all she did for someone else. Not trying to justify it cause she killed my boy Watari
@@unholydiver1095 what about L?
she fell in love so did misa..they both had unselfish intentions in theory
I think she was still selfish because even though this is what Misa wanted, Rem knew Misa was being kept alive to be a pawn and there was no way of knowing Light would’ve actually kept Misa alive. She knew Light’s intention and she is fool if she thought Misa’s safety was ever guaranteed. Killing someone trying to bring justice for someone who advocates death to all “bad” people (ironic) and kills them, is very selfish. She’d rather see Misa fake happy for a couple of months to only be murdered by Light anyway than to keep L alive to mitigate thousands of senseless deaths. I ended up resenting Rem. She didn’t even try to explain to Misa what Light was doing to her.
yes and no. rem wasn't a total sociopath like ryuk but she didn't care about anyone but misa and even then she ONLY cared about misa is because her friend sacrificed himself for her out of love so it's more to honor him than it is out of actually care. keep in mind that shinigami exist to take lives and that's it so being too selfless is against their very nature because the reason they take lives is simply to add it to their own and nothing else. in a way,all shinigami are created to be selfish and that includes rem.
L’s character and personality is highly in-depth. He gives off vibes that tell the readers and or viewers that there is no individual protagonist in Death Note. Which is special. Till this day, after all these years, I still can’t 100% explain L’s true psychology.
Solid point you got there. Can’t really debate about that. But, was just a concept.
You meant that there is no hero of this story. A protagonist is just the main character of the story. Light Yagami is an anti-hero protagonist.
L is not a moral person imo, I think the main reason why he wanted the solve the case was because of his ego not because of justice , I think light was probably better morally at the start if the series but he just went crazy and become a chaotic killer at the end. L would do anything to win the case even things that are injustice just to because of his ego.
@@AM-ct5je L touched the REALLY Grey area of morals and beliefs but Light wasn't afraid to sacrifice his sanity to touch the dark black side of morality
@@AM-ct5je L is like the anime equivalent of House then?
I always thought L wasn't all good. I'm not condoning what Light Yagami was doing at the start (especially since I'm generally against the death penalty) but there has to have been more important things L could've devoted his time to than some theoretical vigilante.
Sometimes I wonder if Light would've even gone as extreme as he did were it not for pressure from L and company.
Maybe without L, Light would've killed a few more criminals, developed a distaste for murder and would've just stopped on his own before anyone even knew what was going on?
So, basically, L is a cat.
lol
@Abigail Chaiyasate I object!
@Abigail Chaiyasate No! But Yes!
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well light is a dog
"It takes a psychopath to catch a psychopath."
Reason being is because they think alike so one knows what the other night do. Many that help catch criminals were former criminals themselves.
although I think of L rather as an Aspie. To me it seems Light is mor concerned about the actions of persons, and L about the abstract concepts. He has a much more mathemtical approach, trying to rule out as many possibilities he can.
Although psychopaths and Aspies differ in many regards, they might come up to the same solution, but from different paths.
Same thing I observered with a friend (me an Aspie and her a psychopath).
@@VenusFeuerFalle ... You're not still friends with her, are you?
Neither are physcopaths. Psychopaths ussally can't tell right from wrong. Light has been seen to question himself if what he's doing he's right
@@O0001 Not all psychopaths commit crimes and are evil.
@@PharomidI am aware that not all of them commit crimes, and I never said they're "evil." They are, however, selfish and manipulative by nature.
The fact that L told Watari to delete all info on the Kira case upon his (or L's death) says a lot about L's mindset. When he says "I am justice" in a way he means If I win then I am right, If I lose then Kira is right. L is playing a game where if he loses then that means that the only person who could stop Kira couldn't, and because Kira is unstoppable then he is a god of death and deserves to have his way.
wait wut?wht version of death note you watching?
well in EP 25, just before watari dies he presses a button on his keyboard, after he presses that button it said "all data deletion" on all monitors both in Watari's computer room and in the room where light and L and the rest of the original Kira task force was. Then L says, "I told Watari to make sure that he should erase all information in the event that something were to happen to him." So I guess you guys will have to forgive me for assuming that this would include information on the Kira case.
i dont get it kira isnt a shinigami
I don't think he deleted i guess he transferred files to his successors thats the reason they know about death note and light .
@@dapotatochipart8939 Yeah that makes a lot of sense, makes sense that L would lie about it being deleted as well.
"It's not a sense of justice, solving cases is my hobby, just as you like to solve puzzles quickly, so that's why I only take cases that interests me. And I will do anything to solve them, so I'm a cheater who hates to lose."
-L in Near Bonus Chapter
Was looking for this
@@user-mc5xr9ku6x same
what the actual fuck, he's the Kendall Jenner of detectives.
he's so interesting
Both L and Light hated to lose but in the end they both lost and died the handcuffs they were wearing showed that there fate will be the same
had to click this 2019 death note content
damn. this was a good video
FACS!
mood yo
2020 actually
@@melodic1941 the comment was in 2019, can you not read
I’d like to clear up some things from this video. First, the characters of A and B are from Death Note spin-off books that were written after the original manga, by a different author. So, most DN fans do not consider these books to be canon. When the manga was written, the characters of A or B simply did not exist in the author’s mind, so L’s lack of action or thought about them isn’t a mark against him. Also, Watari’s orphanage was not portrayed as a particularly abusive or “torturous” place. And even if it was, you’d have to say that L was a victim of that “torture” as well since he was raised there.
Second, the anime changed L’s character significantly and added some scenes. The foot washing scene can still be interpreted as submission to Light, because it was added in for the anime and may not reflect the original author’s intent. The “monster” monologue was also an anime addition.
When you just consider the primary canonical sources, the manga and anime, L is not nearly as evil as Light. Yes, he has a big ego and is willing to do whatever it takes to completely solve a case, but like the author said, this only makes him “slightly evil.” He actually does show remorse too, just go back to the scene where Ukita dies and look at his reaction, where he looks shaken and horrified at what has happened. He also set up a fund to take care of the Task Force members’ families if they died on the case.
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best comment
Excellent points, thanks for clarifying!
Was searching for this quite literally!!!
The book is canon. Nisio Isin was given official permission to write them. It's not just some fanfiction. And in the anime L himself references B.
I disagree with your perception of L not having emotions. I also disagree with your perception of Light.
You're completely right that both of these characters lie and manipulate the truth for their own purposes, but both of their fatal flaw is that they can't keep it straight and even end up lying to themselves. Their rivalry IS a friendship, and they're both too caught up lying to understand the truth for themselves.
L brushes this off as a way of manipulating Light, and Light does the same in the opposite way explicitly stating that he doesn't care about L's friendship.
The truly paradoxical thing is that if they're always lying, then they must lie to themselves as well.
At some point their "game" becomes so complex that they begin to tell "half lies." Half-lies that contain the truth so as to be more believable. There's a great quote from the movie Lawerence of Arabia: "A man who tells lies merely hides the truth, but a man who tells half-lies has forgotten where they put it." Their inability to hold onto the truth while playing this game is what grounds their humanity in what would otherwise make their "perfect" characters truly "divine." But instead they are "only human," since they can't keep it straight. The best example of this is when Light and Misa relinquish the DeathNotes. There is no better example of characters lying to themselves than this, and L descends with Light because he knows that Light upped the stakes.
I'm not sure about Near though, its been quite a while since I watched the show, and I don't have evidence to suggest that he follows a different path from L/Light.
DeathNote has more in common with Macbeth than it does with Julius Caesar. They don't do what actually needs to be done and are haunted by it--instead they descend into madness (each in their own way), by only telling lies.
Mind-blown🤯
I...I dont know what to say
This makes the scene on top of the rainy roof mean so much more
Best interpretation I’ve read in this comment section !!!
I really like this interpretation
Bruh, his name is literally L.
L ... for lies!
L Lawliet, i got the trading card to prove it :)
Hunter Velicky where from? I love trading cards
Hottskull24
his real name is actually L Lawliet. Kira needs a last name.
@@Mr.Shadow10 yea that's what I said. Thanks for stating obvious things.
I if Light wasn't Kira, they might actually become friends.
The creator confirmed that if light yagami didn't found the death note he would be one of the greatest detectives, second to L obcourse.
@@weather9405 yeah sometimes i wish light never found it... oh who am i kidding i always wish that
@@weather9405 I think he would be greater than him cause he is more capable
@@luvvvfear hehe
@@vipulraj_1193 capable of what?
I never thought of L as a villain, he was the best character
He’s a anti villain
Like light
There both the same
@SUAR UA-camr L is also a villain. He's killed people too
@SUAR UA-camr if you say no you know nothing about death note...
@@buttertoast1146 L only sacrificed people sentenced to death
@SUAR UA-camr yes
Based on L's mannerisms, I think it's very likely that L has aspergers. The similarities between L and Light are highlighted throughout the series, but I see distinct differences between them. Often in real life, to the uninformed observer the obvious symptoms of aspergers can resemble psychopathy, despite the conditions being polar opposites.
People with aspergers have low cognitive empathy, yet high amounts of emotional empathy, and low cognitive empathy translates to difficulty expressing or interpreting emotions. Often people with autism must make a conscious effort to express their emotions in a way people understand, though this by no means suggests a lack of emotions internally. In fact, the key difference between a person with aspergers and a psychopath is that the former actually has emotional empathy that exceeds a normal person. This means that though they may have difficulty recognizing what someone is feeling without it being made explicit, when do recognize another person's emotional state state, they empathize with them strongly.
I think L is not a person who bothers trying to express what he's feeling throughout most of the series. However, moments such as when one of the task force got killed outside the TV station by Misa, and L's hands started shaking, really stuck out to me.
My interpretation was that while Light has very little capacity for self reflection, L is critical of himself. He compares himself to Kira by saying he's also childish and hates to lose. L has flaws, but the the fact that he can aknowledge them makes him wiser than Light. Light would never call himself childish, even though it's evidentally true.
L tests people and manipulates even the task force at times, but I do sincerely think he appreciated them. When Aizawa wanted to leave and told L he hated him, I think L really meant it when he said he liked Aizawa. When L silently visited Watari in the middle of the night, having felt his death approaching, it conveyed a sense vulnerability. Though the "Death Note" series isn't much interested in exploring the emotional spectrum of its characters other than in ways that can be exploited the plot, these little flashes are enough to aullude to a character with a lot more emotional depth than Light.
Light is a truer example of a sociopath. While some of Light's morals seemed somewhat conventional, such as "committing crime is wrong", his world veiw lacked any nuance or situational distinction. You were either good or evil. I think he assimilated a lot of the motifs of his father's morality without really understanding their substance. There's a distinction between accepting things as gospel and actually thinking about issues on individual basis, and light is so blinded by himself and what he considers the big picture that he doesn't care to think in terms that small at all.
This is very well said. I agree.
This is such a good analysis. I'm a guy with Aspergers myself and recognize a lot of those traits in L (even though I'm nothing like him).
Really underrated comment.
lol this comment is so good
AssBurgers
"I AM Justice"
-Light
-L
-Batman
You forgot joker
- Palpatine (senate)
Batman is a joke
@@erenliebert4576 not yet
Batman says "I am vengeance"
L's hairstyle is the coolest, more like badass hairstyle.
Otaku Nayeem I love L’s hair
Its sasuke hair but more emo lol
Thank you.
Tell no one, but I'm still alive.
I was undercover and had a clone the day i "died".
I'm glad I lived to see Kira being brought to justice.
If you tell anyone, you'll also be brought to justice.
Levi wanna talk
literally the most cringy, cliché hairstyle in the whole anime
Light is basically someone with heroic ideas but without restrictions
Yes correct it was only thing that nearly transformed light into bad person .
No
I can’t be the only one who thinks L handled the deaths of others fairly?? Like he never sacrificed another person’s life by killing something purely just for the case, he at least found someone who was going to die regardless.
It’s as Luffy and Zoro themselves said if you’re not willing to die for your dreams and ambitions then your dreams and ambitions are meaningless hence why I dropped Death Note for good and moved onto One Piece instead nowadays.
How does one piece have to do with this?
Is there any reason as to why L can’t be cold, calculating and “slightly evil” while also being goofy and loveable? There are several characters like that and I think he qualifies perfectly.
Edit: okay, so I came back here a year later just to let anyone who still cares at this point know I have changed my opinion on L as a character and also on Deathnote as a whole, however, I still think my initial point still stands as it's really all down to personal opinion what you consider to be loveable.
Tell me some characters like that,
I need more L's in my life even if they are not actually L
Sparkle Smart I guess BBC’s Sherlock Holmes is the closest to him.
because thats not goofy, and you can love L i guess, but if he existed in real life, he wouldn't love you at all
you can love him as character ig, but not as a person. hes not goofy and lovable, because hes basically a sociopath. if you look at the definition of lovable, it says inspiring or deserving of love. clearly, that isn't L, hes a sociopath. you can love him as a character, but hes not lovable.
time traveler Considering L is the worlds greatest detective and has saved countless lives, I would say that he is deserving of love. It doesn’t really matter if he’s a sociopath because he’s still the good guy, even if he’s not doing anything out of the kindness of his own heart.
He actually did like misa misa in his info book it said he enjoyed female Japanese pop singers like misa misa
Thanks Sasuke
Thank you sasuke
Sasuke Uchiha so if Misa and Light weren’t kiras then he would actually like her?
Mango YT yes,he actually liked her music and the other idols
@@Therealsasuke
We all thankfully thankyou Sasugay
“If you kill off every bad person in the world , the only bad person left would be you Light” - Ryuk
One bad person >>>> 1 million bad person
I’d rather have light be the only bad person tbh
@@itachiuchiwa6875 that’s so wack , what if he kills you
@@itachiuchiwa6875 i mean yeah crime stoped and no more wars bruh that's a huge dub
@@agilraj1145 Preventing people from killing people BY killing people? How the hell is that logical? Light or all the Kiras combined killed much more people all together than regular criminals could ever do.
L is Light. However, L stayed true to himself and his original sense of justice, as opposed to Light, who abandoned himself to become Kira.
which is why L won in the end
@@razkable I still believe Light became a shinigami and you can’t convince me otherwise
@@Empire_11 I believe the same.
@@Empire_11I may not be able to convince you, but I will certainly try.
In the Death Note universe, there is no afterlife. This was confirmed by both Ryuk in the manga and in the anime with the How to Use it segments. Although in English, the syntax is a bit of. The original Japanese makes it sound more like "The place where humans go after they die; it's Mu.". In this case, it means that they don't go anywhere, because there is nowhere for them to go.
The very idea that death is final is integral to the story, as the author made a point to ensure that there was no way to avert the death once it was written in the note. That is also why the Death Erasure from Chapter 0/the original pilot chapter with Taro Kagami was scrapped.
"You only get one life, so it's up to you to make the most of it." Is iirc what the author said, albeit with slightly different wording.
The Shinigami World is, likewise, a redundant dimension. Ultimately a pointless one at that.
Humans die regardless of the Death Note, and regardless of the presence of the Shinigami. There is no rhyme or reason for their existence.
Between there being no reason for the existence of Shinigami and that Death is Final in the Death Note Universe, it makes absolutely zero sense for Light to become a Shinigami.
Not only does this violate the Death is Final theme, but this also defeats the nihilism inherent in the Shinigami world.
You should make "Can Scooby Doo solve the Kira case?"
Duuh, Scooby Doo would solve it faster than L or Near!!
I don't know there is nothing to unmask and they usually only really solve masked people. In the movies they generally don't solve cases without killing the supernatural being so the real question is can they take Light with the deathnote to easily write down all of the casts names of Scooby Doo before they can solve the case.
Kira got the power of Google so there is no way in hell something like the scooby gang could come to Japan and not get murdered immediately as a possible problem. xD
He was mostly amoral in my read of the character. He really seemed like he was in it more for the thrill of catching criminals for the challenge then any moral reasons
yeah, both the anime and manga. It never seemed like he was trying to be a hero or claim glory. He just wanted to solve puzzles. I think every one is reading to hard into his character. He ended up being obsessed with the light case, cause it was the most complex and hard one. Especially when he suspected his enemy was right next to him. He just wanted the thrill. Every thing else was just his extra level IQ that broke all sense with pure facts.
Yeah L alright claims that detective work is just his hobby
than*
Smart people like Light and L get bored easily. That’s why L likes to catch criminals and why Light was so obsessed with the Death Note.
The best example for that is when L was gonna let Yotsuba commit murders for the benefit of investigation. Meanwhile Light refused that and found a solution to prevent the killings. Light would've been an honest noble detective if he never found the death note 📝 he is Soichiro's son after all.
I never thought of L as good or evil, I just thought he was hot (still do)
Yeah! He really is haawwwtttt
Same
L even commented himself that the reason he was able to anticipate Kira’s actions so well is because they think alike. I guess he could have just meant “we’re both smart”, but I never took it to mean anything that simple.
Although, I do think L meant it when he said Light was his first friend. Of course L hates Light to a degree, but Light gave L a bigger challenge than anyone ever had, he was exciting, and his mindset was familiar to L in a way he probably didn’t see often, if ever. I think L just defines “friend” a little differently than most people. But I’m sure he felt a sort of kinship with Light that he could conceivably define as friendship.
I'd say he had respect for him
Monsters seek friendship although they can't love.
i think the creator said that L never saw light as a friend
@@bruhbruhh9097 yup in seths video of Light Vs L he shows oba saying that L never saw light as a friend but as an criminal i think
When I saw the scene in the rain I viewed it as L mocking Light for thinking he was some sort of higher power. I genuinely laughed at the thought honestly. And I must say, after thinking more about L's character and how stoic, focused, intelligent, and astounding he was I began to respect his actions, whether they be morally correct or not. I respect him, even though his pride. I understand what it's like for someone to stubbornly want to be the winner, everyone does. He was someone who was able to accomplish just that by using his vastly superior intellect.
Though I could talk about L for hours, I chose to limit my comment to a small paragraph being that it's likely that it will go unread. Oh well, I had fun writing it. XD
It seems your interpretation and my, are quite simliar. Even though, that scene, felt off to me. I thought that scene, wasn't made by the same writer, (for details like obviousness, characters placement before and after the scene and acting out of character and then return to being same the character) so i decided to google and found out, i was actually right.
I saw the rain scene as L knowing he's cornered and about to be killed and kinda acknowledging That light won
@@HazzyFcrazy I agree. It looked like he knew about the trap and realized that he can't do anything
So you respect someone who uses innocent people just because his pride wouldn’t let him lose yep definitely see where ur coming from 👍
@@otisw4033 what innocent people?
I like the end quote with L saying he'd be eaten by the monster and the monster is himself. In dub too, I really liked the dub, both Light and L were really well potrayed, I especially like how creepy L sounded.
And adorable 🤭
>Dub
euw
The creepy thing is that after all what Light has done, we still felt bad for him during his death..it makes me think, what if every villian in an anime was the protagonist? Will we feel bad for them and hate the hero? IDK, but the story left me with so many questions :')
Nah not me I was hype to see his demise
@@hughmungus4790 hey there I just saw you commented 4 min ago😂
Yes….. I do believe that if the villain was the main protagonist we would feel bad for there death…. In one of the batman movies I totally forgot the name but it was mainly about joker and his story.. I immediately felt sympathy because of the reason why joker became joker… this movie went deeper like the author wanted the viewers to feel sympathy. At the end joker dies and I honestly felt bed. So I kinda do agree!
This is a very difficult discussion, but to give a very short and incredibly simplified statement of my opinion, L was doing the right thing for the wrong reasons and Light was doing the wrong thing for the right reasons. If I break it down, that's all I see it as.
REAL!!!!
good point
L stopping Kira would probably just lead to even more evil in the long run, so I don’t see how he was doing the right thing
@@mandomero5484Light literally escalated to killing innocent people and sacrificing his own family members out of his own moral righteousness, effectively becoming the villain rather then being the hero. Which ultimately, yeah, conditioned people yo be good but it was mostly artificial and not out of a genuine want to be good but to not face Kira’s wrath. I wouldn’t call that “getting rid of a good person.”
I've always thought this tbh, Light and L were perfect foils of each other.
Light was evil, but his actions led to far lower crime rates and had a pretty positive impact on the world.
L was good, but his actions were always questionable and even going past the line of what is ethical, using sometimes underhanded tactics to achieve the his goals.
light's actions WOULD cause fear among the gp though.
It was absolutely necessary for light to be caught. The longer it would take the longer light wouldve killed people for not so killing reasons.
@@whydoyouneedmyname6007 exactly. just like how he eliminated lind L tailor, he will kill everyone who tries to stop him.
@@hiyoise he was later thinking of killing lazy people. Like he was trying to rule the world and make the world work the way he wants.
@Sadia Afrin ok mikomi told him but still he said its far too early to do so that means he was planning to do something later on. He was trying to rule the world and make the world work the way he wants. He was even ready to kill his own sister. That's evil. I mean i m fine with him killing murderers and rapists but he was also killing The 'suspects' .while L was risking his life to catch Kira, he risked his kife and went to light and people say ' lind l tailor' L planned his blah blah that ain't true at all when lind l. Tailor died L said " i didn't know that kira could kill people without being present there himself " which explains he didn't expect lind l. Tailor to die
When “L” meaning “Last One” was pointed out in this video, I looked up protagonist of Death Note. There were multiple main characters that showed up. L, Light, Misa, Teru, etc. But I noticed something. Only one lived. The *Last One.* Near.
Near being the protagonist would be bleh, considering he showed up right at the end. Near and Mello together were the will of L.
I thought Misa survived.
Misa killed herself at the end because Light died.
Zeniux Misa, man, she really sucks.
@@itsveri2912 which made no sense since she had a life beyond any humans from two of the death gods dying for her. Even the first one brought her lifespan "beyond the natural human life span". misa was around 20 when she would have died, so beyond the natural human lifespan would at least be 100yo, so she at least got 80yo of life. Cut that into quarters(for getting the eyes two times), she should have had about 20 years more of life from her initial death point, she should, unless her name is written in the death note, at least live until age 40. That isnt even including Rem's lifespan.
So I think it was either an oversight or Near wrote her name in the deathnote.
I think L's character was made obvious from the moment he had been introduced. They tell us L is the smartest detective and can solve mostly any case that he takes on, but he only takes in cases which interest him. This imo clearly shows that he had a huge ego and wasn't in it for actually helping justice
theory: L never showed himself and only appeared at the ending scene when Light died. Beyond Birthday, the murderer who exactly looked and behaved like L was given one last chance by solving the kira case and suceeding, he wouldnt have to face the death penalty.
Bruh🤯
Wait this actually kinda makes sense
W theory but BB died due to heart attack caused by Yagami in the beginning of the Kira case
a Lelouch vs Light in taking over the world would be interesting
man i would pay BIG MONEY to see a animation universal distortion to force LIGHT and LELOUCH to go against each other. But with LELOUCH'S time zone. with all that technology giving LIGHT a bigger equal plain field. Just imagine the kind of destruction LIGHT would have had against Lelouch. Light would have so much power against them but we have to remember it would really be C2 vs RYUK and i think C2 would defeat LIGHT because ryuk is the kind of person who will stay by you until you are finally defeated. C2 is the one who helps to stick with LELOUCH even when all hell looks like it's about to break loose.
Get this to top comment i wanna see it...
I think Lelouch would win because he wouldn't get so caught up in the one vs one mind match and would have had someone kill L even if L found out he was Kira he wouldn't care the cult of Kira wouldn't let the anyone get to him but it would be amazing to see
Lelouch would be able to beat light as soon as he suspects him of being kira because he could just use his Geass. But light on the other hand would need to know his actual name and to even do that he needs to learn about his royal past which wouldn't be available that easily because I guess the emperor deleted all trace of lelouch's existence.
@@fure745lelouch is't even close to being as smart as light. I would take light over lelouch without their respective powers anyday.give light the geass and he would bring out it's true potential using it in ways lelouch wouldn't even think of. Also people who lelouch defeated in code geass were nowhere as smart as any of the smart death note characters.
I've never thought of L as a "good guy" or have a strong sense of justice but rather a person who has a strong pride on his own knowledge.
I like to think that L and Light had a relationship similar to Batman and the Joker. They're both enemies and hate each other, but either way they still need each other
True, kinda explains how light lost his way after L too
I think L shows a lot of emotion. It can be encapsulated in one scene. He shows visceral sadness and disappointment when he makes the bell analogy, because Light doesn't understand him, and even if he did, he wouldn't admit it. Then he wipes his foot as a gesture of loss and respect because he knows he was beaten and is about to die at the hands of the only man he ever respected as an intellectual, which I do actually believe became a friendship as he got to know a version of Light that wasn't a manipulator. That scenes imagery also conveys a religious context; kissing feet or bowing to them, or cleaning, is a Christian way of showing respect to God. The only "true way" to communicate with possessed Light's ego, which is why it makes him uncomfortable; he sees right through him. The cross and the bells combined with stained glass facilitates this. I don't think the drying scene was an appeal to stay alive. I think it was saying, "I know my actions are going to lead to my death, when I try to test the rule I deem fake." It was resolve and respect trying to be conveyed honestly. "Have you ever once in your life told the truth?" Of course L is a manipulator. The point of the show is moral ambiguity.
Edit: They're both radical, but the intended read and watch is, possessed Light is evil, and intellectual extremist L is just. The color palettes are pretty on the nose as well, though that may be a silly connection.
Theres nothing just about the actions L takes from using a dude as bait or the lies and manipulation he uses on others
L: I am protector of the innocent, I am the LIGHT in the darkness, I am truth. Ally to good nightmare to y-...imma head out.
Goku?
@@blueblade6174 yes
I saw what you did there
Nobody whoosh me please but tell me what it is. Yagami?
@@robloxtrolling1907 basically he is saying what Goku said to frieza when he turned super saiyan and before he can finish he gets killed by the death note
I really like that clip at the end where L talks about monsters. It really shows that L and Light aren't so different. In the end, all that mattered was whoever won would be considered "justice".
I love it too. That quote highlights how Light thought he was so perfect and a god, but L was more self aware of his flaws.
My two favorite anime One Piece and Death Note having same philosophy
Police logic: You can’t kill every criminal that still makes you one
Police: “Ok, death sentence for you, come this way”
According to you, they should let the most dangerous people live
@@dashua1735 what I just said was very easy to understand, and that wasn’t what I said
@@godlygamer2466 If you weren't making a joke, it's what your comment would've implied
@@dashua1735 Killing a criminal isn’t the only way to sort them out dumbass
@@Phenriir You're right, but some criminals are so dangerous and completely irredeemable that it's probably best to put a death sentence on them. Less chances of escape and all, and cheaper too. Compared to Light's methods where he wants to kill every criminals on Earth, this is much better.
But still one question remains a mystery-
"Who is actually L?"
His name is L. Lawliet
So basically, L said
“Might controls everything. And without strength, you cannot protect anything. Let alone yourself.”
What are you gonna do with all that power huh? No matter what you do, you're never gonna be like father...
Foolishness L Foolishness
No doubt you've got some fun planned for me. Right, Vergil?!
"Justice is subject to dispute; might is easily recognised and is not disputed. So we cannot give might to justice, because might has gainsaid justice, and has declared that it is she herself who is just. And thus being unable to make what is just strong, we have made what is strong just.'
I see, I know what you are
I don't care how old Death Note is, I ALWAYS LOVE to hear new theories about the show!
I LOVE THIS ANIME SO MUCH!
Same its a masterpiece
Art is timeless
L explained it best himself when he told everyone he is childish and stubborn. He has the moral development of a child with the intellect of a god. I choose to believe he actually did like Light as a friend, but he also was using it to his advantage to 'beat' him. His intellect simply overpowers his emotions and morality, I don't think that means they don't exist.
I always knew L wasn’t a “good” person, I saw him as a machine, that’s programmed to love only the thrill of completing a puzzle and will do anything to get that thrill.
I saw Light as more of a Fallen angel kind of person, he’s reasons and feelings started out innocent enough, he wanted to make the world a better place, but over time the power got to him and he was slowly twisted into a crazy man with a god complex, still in the end a little bit of light shined through from time to time unlike L who never had a hint of actually love or emotions
It's good that L never showed any love or emotions or else would have never reached this far in solving this case. unlike Light's dad who is big burden for Taskforce.
@@VenkyBeast I agree he was a burden but I will say it’s not really his fault he’s a actual stable/normal human unlike L who is a Machine in flesh form and Light who is a self made sociopath
I mean if someone said your loved one was possibly a murderer you’d probably dismiss it too out of both trust in your loved one and fear that it could be true
dude this video is so epic for so many reasons that i cannot even explain to it's entirety for, thank you for taking the time to do this. Best regards.
I liked L as a character but I didn’t like he got replaced by near
Ikr
Near is a white hair L wannabe
@@cartoonistlaura2682 exactly! also we’re both here around the same time which is kind of comforting considering I’m binging deathnote videos 🥲
@@cartoonistlaura2682 Near is okay.
@@cartoonistlaura2682 I mean that's literally part of Near's character arc so...
I think that L reacts the way he does when he hears about the existence of shinigami because he thinks he might be getting himself into an unsolvable case. Almost as if he thinks as if he were a computer. It would be the same reaction if you told a computer to divide by 0.
There’s no case Moody Blues can’t solve.
LORD_CHUNKY_GIORNO How would Moody Blues find who Kira is?
Stando Powah
Go somewhere that u know he had to be
You can also act with the ultimate alias
@@dartsoma bruh kinda mudas
L is an extremely interesting character the more you break him down. While I do somewhat more so agree with the author’s opinion that L is a more righteous character than Kira, it’s still true that all characters in death note, even L live in a world of gray, as to say things aren’t just black-and-white in terms of morality. Although many of the acts that L commits are rather disturbing, I’d still argue that he puts more ethical thought into his choices than light. For example the prisoner L sacrificed in the beginning of the series, was already up for execution, and if he survived he would’ve been granted freedom. L could’ve used an actor, but instead chose to use someone who was already going to die. I feel as though Light is much more likely to sacrifice innocent people than L is, that being said, If an innocent person did get hurt in the wake of L’s investigation, I hardly doubt he would lose much sleep over it. I do think that near’s motivation of just wanting to solve the case and not so much caring about the ethics of things is similar to L, but I’d also argue that L was more than the cold calculating person near is. People often seem to forget that Near didn’t solve the case alone, it was only through the intervention of Mello that near was able to solve the case. Mello sacrifices himself in order to stop Light and solve the case, which although can still be seen as prideful, it’s also probably one of the most morally selfless things we seen in the series. I bring this up because near and mello are portrayed to be the 2 sides of L. Near Being Logical and Mello being emotional, this is supported by the fact that not only do each of them portray similar quirks to L, Such as mello’s fondness of sweets and Near’s constant fidgeting, but also by the fact that near stated that it took both of them coming together to stand beside L, and even surpass him.
Christian Tompkins that’s another great way of looking at it
GD Omar even before Light made up that Shinigami rule L was still contempt keeping people with no memories of the Kira case locked in prison, so Seth is right about everything in this video.
@@AD-zp4pd you're not making any sense... do you believe in right and wrong or not?
I just don't understand one thing: if L already know who was Kira, why he don't just taked the justice with her own hands and killed Kira? I mean, why try to arrest Light? This will take too much time and a lot of people will die (And sorry for my bad english)
@@Niko-kp6pk that's a strange question...L wasn't 100% sure. he had suspicions. besides, killing light without going through procedure would make him a murderer. what if police officers went around killing people who they thought were guilty?
Good or bad L displays many sociopathic personality traits. L I think likes Light but his fondness for him matters less then solving the puzzle.
Finally, someone who understands death note.
I think the Yotsuba arc does a perfect job of showing that Light, at his core, is really a good person. Where as L, at his core, is just someone who wants to win.
Dude I just finished watching death note. Perfect timing
Lmao
I too finished it a few days ago.
50,000 subscribers with no videos how you just finished it
You really watched many garbage animes before you found this one
@@Yusufsanad no man its because I've barely been getting into anime lol
50,000 subscribers with no videos oh that’s a relief haha anything other than this reason is not acceptable lol
Finished yesterday. Nice to see I'm not the only one watching in 2019 :)
You should do, "Can Lelouch solve the Kira case?"
Yeah
Well with Geass then yeah... But even without it, I think he would be able to do it.
With Geass it's way too easy and without it... Tough question. Lelouch has always been my favourite character of all times but I don't think his mind is AS sharp as L's so I'm gonna say no if it's without Geass.
Lelouch is nowhere near as smart as any of the characters in death note. Without geass he won't be able to do shit, with geass is a different story which can be discussed.
Lelouch is a strategic thinker, not a detective.
Psychopathy is a physical trait first, and a mental disorder second. In that sense, it makes sense that both L and Kira display eerily similar levels of such.
Imagine if L found the Death Note, game over before it starts
LMAO
The roles would have been switched
L is a skilled liar, he was able to even convince the majority of the audience that he is the good guy here.
He is the good guy
he's my darling
Giorno Giovannah Nu uh he's mine
Ok how is he evil
@@weather9405 he's more of an anti-hero
To be honest I feel that L didn't completely hate light because there was a genuine connection at times between the two. But that's the thing about lies. The best ones always have at least some truth in them.
L after spending 30s with Light be like:
Damn it this dude's kira but how do I prove it
after a lot of research and contemplation, i'm convinced that L is a goofball.
L my favorite death note character. Props to Seth for using Beyond Birthday's theme.
i can tell
Before L died, Light never answered his question.
"Was there ever a time in Light's life that he ever told the truth"
I think his silence makes it obvious.
@@jonathangarcia5279 🤔 touche'
@@jonathangarcia5279 and the way the music stopped had to mean something?
He did answer the question. Maybe somewhat indirectly, but still he did
@@mattheww9763 I feel kinda silly that it took so long for me to finally *get it*
This makes me appreciate Light’s character a lot more, and make it easier to see his side of things
L was evil whenever he took a risk, but other than that, dude was chill, and only took risks when he had to for the sake of solving the case
12:37 How can you know that this not just another one of L's lies?
You sounded so disappointed when you mentioned that "you" were never ever allowed to make a peanut butter sandwich again.
all the characters in death note are incredibly complex and well written... you can read them many different ways. as a writer, it's deeply impressive to me. the story is character driven, so it would have flopped if they werent great, really.
Yup matsuda is the most well written
I think that L has no moral compass and lives only to use his intellect to solve mysteries. This makes him the perfect opponent for Light because he is never distracted by the question of whether Kira's actions or their outcomes are right or wrong nor can Kira offer him anything to sway him because he desires nothing more than to catch Kira.
L: Well, I'm not the one going around writing names in a Death Note
Francesco Lombardi just because L isn’t writing names in the Death Note doesn’t mean that he’s off the hook of murder charges because he’s still assistive of murder.
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hrsemantics
@@RoronoaZoro-ur6hr yo Light what are you doing here.. You are DEAD!
@@edgycatx825 Shinigami*
@@hanschristianbaldera1805 Fan theory
I will say: *Only true PSYCHOPATH can understand true SOCIOPATH.*
Light with his intellect is taken for psychopath, but true is, he is sociopathic, which moment with Ls 'killing on tv screen' shows best.
In the same time, only someone truelly calm and rather...TRUELLY DETOUCHED can be known, highly funcioning...yet total mistery, letting even his LIFE for a sake of game, when Light was TERRIFIED when loosing his.
L regretted when one of the team members died it was when the second kira made an appearance, and killed without a name so L kinda felt really bad think he was abt to cry.
I'm so glad other people are finally seeing this side of L. I noticed it the first time I watched the physical fight scene, and L says "and eye for an eye". To me, that confirmed that L was absolutely not who he was pretending to be to win the side of the task force, but probably someone who would actually agree with the death penalty (and thus Kira). He's a little shit and I love him.
It made me rewatch the entire show from the beginning before I even finished watching it the first time, so that I could pick up on any other little instances of his real personality. SUCH an amazingly written character.
Nice please keep making more Death Note videos, I love them
that's the thing that makes good characters. the hero's are not without flaws and there is some good in what the bad guys want to do.
Great video. I loved watching Death Note back in the day, I hardly remembered some of this. You def have a point. I wanna rewatch it now with this in mind.
Fun fact no one asked for: Ryuk's name in the first draft of the manga was Ryuuku, and Light's name was Raito
Just how it was said in the show lol
It's japanesse accent
God damn. L's death was probably one of the most saddest things in all of anime.
He’s not a villain since he had posthumously stoppped Kira. In my opinion, he had or still has some traumatic experience with his excessive training from the orphanage, possibly leading to his weird perverted and criminal-like way. He just fits with the TvTropes of Heroic Jerks/Perverte/Criminals and Grey Zone that would make him an overall Anti-Hero and an Antagonist Hero fighting against the Villain Protagonist Light Yagami is like the Anti-Villain or just a Villain who could be the Protagonist at the same time like in the other tropes with Villains who are Protagonist on countless storylines.
Well, i read l's backstory in whammy's house. I'll be honest, he was like that to begin with. But watari was just his "all in one" butler to him and which probably made him in incapable to live on his and as for his life before the orphanage, I don't know, what happened to him, before the orphanage and also, i'm pretty sure he's not genuine pervert, because his character profile, states that he's asexual.
@@lakshaykochhar9802 i haven't read the backstory but the fact he doesn't know what a hug is and sees it as an act of violence which causes a fight to protect himself, makes me think he came from a pathological family where he was abused as a child.
This is my favorite video of yours! Its very objective, and provocative, and best of all thought provoking. Please go on the philosophical trail more.. Please!!
L himself pretty much admits that he's the same type of monster as Kira is and were he to ever encounter one, he'd be consumed by it. It's in one of the Relight films when L is giving a speech about his fear of monsters to his potential successors at the orphanage.
That ending about monsters is so true.
I found this really interesting. I have to get into the death note anime or anime extras you were mentioning. Allot of this stuff I've never heard of. I've only watched the anime itself. Putting everything into perspective, I see where you're coming from with your synopsis.
Bro read the mangas !!! I just finished them and wow. The amount of detail that the anime doesn’t show is incredible. I hated near for killing light but in the manga they really added detail about near and honestly he’s a cool dude. He saw the world as the reality of what it is. He saw Light as a serial killer not a god or even someone worthy to rule the world because of the power they have in there hands he just plain saw light as what he is.. a crazy serial killer but in lights eyes he saw himself as a god, And also it explains more on how near gathered all the evidence on light OOUUU and also the end has a differnt ending… I wasnt even expecting it.
Wow, this video really opened my eyes. I haven't read the BB murders or File 15 yet but I plan to. Thanks for these insights and intriguing thoughts.
slight correction: L actually does sweat at least once, back when light first learned for to use the death note to manipulate people. After the 12 FBI agents died, L realized the notes that light left behind were a complete distraction so he would be watching his agents too closely, and so he breaks a single sweat.
Oh wow! I thought L being a cold blooded manipulative dude willing to do whatever to win the game was obvious on the first go around!
“Near only cared about winning not about what’s right” sounds kinda like you during those debates vs swag
what about mello? did he care about what's right? (for the record, i thought he did)
die dichtung no just about beating near
great vid
Thank you for this video it goes with my thoughts from the beginning when I first watched the show