Hi Tanner! Your videos are always packed with info and of such high quality. My girlfriend and I really enjoy watching your videos, and we're rooting for you and Team UA-cam! Great to see your mom supporting you in your pickleball journey as well. Keep up the great work.
Good info, but I would add another point for working with a weaker player: stacking, specifically forehand stacking if you are both right handed. This will put the weaker player on the right and shrink their box to perhaps 30% of the court (depending on how you play the court). Think Ben and Collin Johns. Or Ben and Anna Leigh. Watch what they do. Sometimes Ben takes up to 80% of the court, especially on dinks. I am a 4.1 in DUPR and when I play with higher level players, I consistently ask them if they want to forehand stack. They love it and it gives them permission to poach and take over the court. I played with a 5.5 against another 5.5 and 5.0 and we beat them using a forehand stack. I love playing right side and most dominant players love playing left side.
I think this is one of very few videos that talks about this. Well done! Would like more of this concept. How to maximize your role as a stronger player. Shot selections to increase your chances of getting more balls. I sometimes have issue of trying to do too much when I finally get a ball, since I know I won't get too many chances... P.S. Love that lady!
Absolutely love the editing on this video! Makes it very easy to understand everything you’re saying. Watching your videos has been helping develop a lot my pickleball skills. Thank you 🙏🏻
I recently got into pickleball and have been watching TONS of your UA-cam shorts, which have been really helpful. I want to join some pickle clubs or pickle tournaments and get a rating. Do you have any videos on how a new player would get into the pickleball scene?
One option would be to go to an indoor pay to play facility and see if they have a league or a time when strangers can engage in open play. Sometimes, groups of 4 go to these places and it's hard to get into a game. Check around your area....maybe a county/town facility or the Y.
got some guys I play who are like 4.2. Im 4.5 and my wife is 3.7. They spend the whole game lobbing her and targeting her. Its so annoying, I play like the whole court like this and still cant pull it out. Targeting in rec play is so toxic.
@@stevecrawford333 they probably lobbing from the baseline? If so the keep em back and strong returns are causing the issue, the holy grail bad tatic. Hit em short bring em to the net. I got a 75% lob from the baseline deep to your baseline(bad legs). So if you keep me back, I am gonna lob. You got a chance to get a paddle on the ball at the net.
funny how many people get upset at targeting in rec play. if your weak partner gets targeted just remind yourself - and maybe them too - that they're getting lots of looks and lots of practice balls, and it'll improve their game. No whining!! If you cannot handle it, pick your opponents carefully - talk to them and make sure they're ok letting you play too.
What about playing with a weaker player you don’t know, who, for instance, is reluctant to get up to the kitchen line? Or hits nothing but pop-ups? What if your partner is somewhat less mobile and your opponents repeatedly lob on him or her?
provided your partner even comes to the net! i play with some tennis players who play the entire game from the back line or transition zone. everything is played banger style, so annoying.
Good tips mate. On driving 3rds - what is the adjustments to make if you find your drives are getting punched back to your partner and are just making more chaos and difficulty for your team? Any particular tips there or is it just a case of hitting good quality drives? (ie. Right locations, dipping them down)
I appreciate this. I’m a pretty decent player, but have recently run across some guys trying to coach me while we’re playing. How can I get them to leave me be?
When you tell them you don't want coaching, just totally own the fact that you're coming across as a jerk. Instead of saying, "I don't want to sound like a jerk, but please don't coach me", do the opposite. say "I know this is a jerky thing to say, but I really don't want you to coach me." 9 out of 10 times it'll go better.
4.0 player here and need some help. I do not prefer backhand thirds, but when forced I have a decent two hand drive. I have found myself abandoning any attempt to drop with my backhand from the baseline. When/why should I drop on the rare occurrence I have to hit a backhand third from the baseline?
I figured all this out for myself. Tanner got one point totally wrong, though. I play with many older female partners, many of whom are on the heavy side, and are not strong on their legs moving side to side. Some of these women are absolute ball return machines when they can stand in one place, but any rocking of the boat with side-to-side movement, and they fall apart quickly. Even in rec play, you have to adopt this style if the weaker partner lacks the basic mobility to play half the net _anywhere_ near as well as they play inside a smaller box. Tanner also failed on the point about guarding attacks down the outside line. When the ball is wide and close, and the outside line is fully exposed, the player in front of the ball _must_ move far enough to the outside to successfully cut off that shot at least half the time. Too many rec players will stand there and watch aces fly past them down their outside line the whole game, and still cling to the idea that they should stand in the center of their half-court box. What are they thinking? They are thinking "maybe some year my arm will get fast enough". No, it won't, if you're not drinking distilled frog greens on a daily basis. That positioning tip will already shrink your weaker partner's box in many situations. There's also a compromise solution, which I like when my weaker partner is mobile. This is where you let your weaker partner take many dinks on the inside, but the stronger player crushes everything that pops up in the middle, ranging at least four feet into the weaker partner's side. At 6'4" I actually like a spry smaller partner to spare me from breaking the X on low dinks into the middle. Under this arrangement, when I see a ball coming through the middle, on the X, to my partner, I lift my paddle and prepare to smash or attack only, should the ball pop up enough to get my paddle on it. But I never bend down for a low ball.
You don't know what you don't know. Noobs will try to get all the balls just by reaction. If you have to explain all this to them they are not nobs anymore because now they understand strategy.
Tanner's caveat was this advice is for tournament play and agrees you shouldn't hog the ball in rec play (except when you're losing badly--joking). If you watch the pros they play "keep away" from the strongest players. Their doubles matches (especially mixed with ALW exception) look like a singles match between the two weaker players with the stronger players lurking for an opportunity to touch the ball and bring the heat.
@tanner.pickleball why would you have a wide disparity in tournament play level skills and even bother. The mixed age category that seniors mostly play? Sounds like sandbagging just to beat someone, that you dont even need a partner to beat. No glory in that. From all the matches on youtube, never seen that kind of mismatch. Guess who would film and post an embarrassment for the higher level player.
Even in recreational play, playing the right way is essential for improvement. Next time, consider asking your stronger partner if you can take on the stronger role. You'll be surprised by how many skilled players are willing to let you practice and improve during a casual game. Naturally, competitive settings like tournaments or leagues is a different story.
Your mum's facial expressions are absoulutely hilarious Tanner! Made the video for me; I couldn't stop smiling!
Fantastic! So happy you enjoyed it :)
Mrs. T is a great sport in your videos. Next video..."How to body bag your opponents". Can't wait to see her expressions 🤪
Hahahahaah I love that idea!!
@@tanner.pickleball Sorry I mentioned it. Please, put her in goalie gear 🤣
She may be the weaker partner, but she sure as hell raised a strong lad. 💪
Hehehehhe
Such great information on a rarely talked about subject. And your mom's facial expressions are just a bonus.
Hahaha!
Love these with your mom!
Haha, she's the best!
Hi Tanner! Your videos are always packed with info and of such high quality. My girlfriend and I really enjoy watching your videos, and we're rooting for you and Team UA-cam! Great to see your mom supporting you in your pickleball journey as well. Keep up the great work.
Glad you like them! Thank you so much and thanks for the support :)
Love your mom! And you of course, plus how you include her in your You Tube channel, so sweet!
Thanks! She loves to be part of the channel!
Would love more videos about stratagy and how to work as a team. Great video
Thanks, more team strategy coming soon!
@@tanner.pickleball Learning the in / out of stacking with a left handed player is a great topic for you to cover please.
Just started a league with a lefty. And I’m a southpaw. We’re both beginners.
Thanks! On behalf of the "weaker partner" community, I thank you wholeheartedly. 😉
Haha!! Wow Vasu, I'm so thankful for a donation like this, AMAZING!
"Get in your corner mom!" 🤣 Just kidding! Your mom is awesome!
Haha, she's got game!
Good info, but I would add another point for working with a weaker player: stacking, specifically forehand stacking if you are both right handed. This will put the weaker player on the right and shrink their box to perhaps 30% of the court (depending on how you play the court). Think Ben and Collin Johns. Or Ben and Anna Leigh. Watch what they do. Sometimes Ben takes up to 80% of the court, especially on dinks. I am a 4.1 in DUPR and when I play with higher level players, I consistently ask them if they want to forehand stack. They love it and it gives them permission to poach and take over the court. I played with a 5.5 against another 5.5 and 5.0 and we beat them using a forehand stack. I love playing right side and most dominant players love playing left side.
Totally agree, great call I will create a video on this soon :)
I think this is one of very few videos that talks about this. Well done! Would like more of this concept. How to maximize your role as a stronger player. Shot selections to increase your chances of getting more balls. I sometimes have issue of trying to do too much when I finally get a ball, since I know I won't get too many chances... P.S. Love that lady!
Thank you very much, totally agree I have to go deeper into this topic!
Absolutely love the editing on this video! Makes it very easy to understand everything you’re saying. Watching your videos has been helping develop a lot my pickleball skills. Thank you 🙏🏻
My pleasure Sonia!
Great video! Your mom seems very cool and funny. More videos including her!!! 🎉
Thank you! Will do! Excited for it :)
Thank you so much Tanner! Love what you share with us and love your mom! 😊
Thanks for watching :)
Thanks for this video! I'm playing a tournament with my younger sister soon (she's 8) and these tips are gonna be super useful.
Glad you liked it! You'll be crushing it out there!
Love it and loved your mama!
Thanks!!
Tanner, you really need to get Mom a CRBN paddle!!
Hahah you’re right I will get her one!!
Loving to see your mom involved! Can we see games of your two!?? Also Tanner!? Why Didn you give her a new CRBN paddle!??❤
I have to get her one haha!!
I see where you get your dramatic flair! What a great combo! Go mom!!!!
love the graphics, very helpful! thank you
Appreciate the kind words!
Love your partners focus!
She’s a great partner!
Well done once again! Keep it up!
Thanks, will do!
Mrs T is wonderful. Great video overall as usual.
Thanks JB!
Excellent. Thank you so much.
You're very welcome!
I recently got into pickleball and have been watching TONS of your UA-cam shorts, which have been really helpful. I want to join some pickle clubs or pickle tournaments and get a rating. Do you have any videos on how a new player would get into the pickleball scene?
Great suggestion! I’ll create a video on this for sure. I think so many people can benefit from it!
One option would be to go to an indoor pay to play facility and see if they have a league or a time when strangers can engage in open play. Sometimes, groups of 4 go to these places and it's hard to get into a game. Check around your area....maybe a county/town facility or the Y.
got some guys I play who are like 4.2. Im 4.5 and my wife is 3.7. They spend the whole game lobbing her and targeting her. Its so annoying, I play like the whole court like this and still cant pull it out. Targeting in rec play is so toxic.
Makes no sense.. such a shame. At least you're getting a workout in hah
@@stevecrawford333 they probably lobbing from the baseline? If so the keep em back and strong returns are causing the issue, the holy grail bad tatic. Hit em short bring em to the net. I got a 75% lob from the baseline deep to your baseline(bad legs). So if you keep me back, I am gonna lob. You got a chance to get a paddle on the ball at the net.
@@gg80108 Thye lobbing everywhere because they know if they come to me ill smash them. So they gotta lob my 4 foot 11 wife. So weak
Been wondering about this topic - thanks!!
You're welcome! I glad it was useful.
funny how many people get upset at targeting in rec play.
if your weak partner gets targeted just remind yourself - and maybe them too - that they're getting lots of looks and lots of practice balls, and it'll improve their game.
No whining!!
If you cannot handle it, pick your opponents carefully - talk to them and make sure they're ok letting you play too.
I like your mantra hahah. Definitely depends on the group you're playing with.
What about playing with a weaker player you don’t know, who, for instance, is reluctant to get up to the kitchen line? Or hits nothing but pop-ups?
What if your partner is somewhat less mobile and your opponents repeatedly lob on him or her?
That is an entirely different video, I would take my losses at that point sadly.
Then ya just lose. There comes a certain point at which the game is just lost and you would do better okaying 2v1
Protective eyewear is a must in these situations.
When I right-side are their strategies, I can implement to get more balls to my left-sider? Righty-Righty team.
Yes, I will go more in-depth for this!
I would say that to a random person. GET IN YOUR CORNER !!!! NOWWWW
hahahahha
Share this with the whole Pickleball world please!! 😅
Hahahaha!
provided your partner even comes to the net! i play with some tennis players who play the entire game from the back line or transition zone. everything is played banger style, so annoying.
True, that is annoying if they don't come to the net haha!
Good tips mate. On driving 3rds - what is the adjustments to make if you find your drives are getting punched back to your partner and are just making more chaos and difficulty for your team? Any particular tips there or is it just a case of hitting good quality drives? (ie. Right locations, dipping them down)
I would probably try to hit deep penetrating drops if this were the case!
I appreciate this. I’m a pretty decent player, but have recently run across some guys trying to coach me while we’re playing. How can I get them to leave me be?
Shoot I would say "Thank you, I am just here for fun, no input needed!"
When you tell them you don't want coaching, just totally own the fact that you're coming across as a jerk. Instead of saying, "I don't want to sound like a jerk, but please don't coach me", do the opposite. say "I know this is a jerky thing to say, but I really don't want you to coach me."
9 out of 10 times it'll go better.
Your mom is funny 😂 and a good sport!
Haha I’m thankful!!!
4.0 player here and need some help. I do not prefer backhand thirds, but when forced I have a decent two hand drive. I have found myself abandoning any attempt to drop with my backhand from the baseline. When/why should I drop on the rare occurrence I have to hit a backhand third from the baseline?
If you are comfortable with the 2H backhand drive. I would stick to that. I would only drop on low short returns.
@@tanner.pickleball Thank you!
I figured all this out for myself.
Tanner got one point totally wrong, though. I play with many older female partners, many of whom are on the heavy side, and are not strong on their legs moving side to side. Some of these women are absolute ball return machines when they can stand in one place, but any rocking of the boat with side-to-side movement, and they fall apart quickly.
Even in rec play, you have to adopt this style if the weaker partner lacks the basic mobility to play half the net _anywhere_ near as well as they play inside a smaller box.
Tanner also failed on the point about guarding attacks down the outside line. When the ball is wide and close, and the outside line is fully exposed, the player in front of the ball _must_ move far enough to the outside to successfully cut off that shot at least half the time. Too many rec players will stand there and watch aces fly past them down their outside line the whole game, and still cling to the idea that they should stand in the center of their half-court box. What are they thinking? They are thinking "maybe some year my arm will get fast enough". No, it won't, if you're not drinking distilled frog greens on a daily basis.
That positioning tip will already shrink your weaker partner's box in many situations.
There's also a compromise solution, which I like when my weaker partner is mobile. This is where you let your weaker partner take many dinks on the inside, but the stronger player crushes everything that pops up in the middle, ranging at least four feet into the weaker partner's side. At 6'4" I actually like a spry smaller partner to spare me from breaking the X on low dinks into the middle. Under this arrangement, when I see a ball coming through the middle, on the X, to my partner, I lift my paddle and prepare to smash or attack only, should the ball pop up enough to get my paddle on it. But I never bend down for a low ball.
My apologies for that, good pickup on this I appreciate you commenting these tips you found.
Go mom !
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Cool video, Thank you
Thanks!
What paddle do you use?
CRBN 1x 16mm
@@tanner.pickleballis it with rhr elongated handle?
You don't know what you don't know. Noobs will try to get all the balls just by reaction. If you have to explain all this to them they are not nobs anymore because now they understand strategy.
Agreed!!
I watched so many of your videos and am only realizing you are a leftie as well 😂
Hahaha! Yes I am
Tanner did you do a commercial for AI insurance?
Maybe for a facebook ad? I used to do stuff like that a couple years ago lol
All I play is recreational p'ball. Please give us a video on that. (Lady is hilarious.)
Thanks Steve!! I will create one for rec :)
Rec play not interested in winning, yeah right.
hahaha
Ridiculous. Dont hog the ball, winning against those who are no good is not satisfying. Let the weak players hit the ball, you just take up space.
Tanner's caveat was this advice is for tournament play and agrees you shouldn't hog the ball in rec play (except when you're losing badly--joking). If you watch the pros they play "keep away" from the strongest players. Their doubles matches (especially mixed with ALW exception) look like a singles match between the two weaker players with the stronger players lurking for an opportunity to touch the ball and bring the heat.
Hmmmmm I made this point clarifying for who it is for within the first 7 seconds of the video haha
@tanner.pickleball why would you have a wide disparity in tournament play level skills and even bother. The mixed age category that seniors mostly play? Sounds like sandbagging just to beat someone, that you dont even need a partner to beat. No glory in that. From all the matches on youtube, never seen that kind of mismatch. Guess who would film and post an embarrassment for the higher level player.
active listening is tough huh
Even in recreational play, playing the right way is essential for improvement. Next time, consider asking your stronger partner if you can take on the stronger role. You'll be surprised by how many skilled players are willing to let you practice and improve during a casual game. Naturally, competitive settings like tournaments or leagues is a different story.