@@nockianlifter661 ok well that's a fair point but I'd still be happy if they offered a fairing kit you could buy as an add on. And yes the trident with fairings will be a great bike around town. It's just when I think Daytona, I think raw performance razor sharp weapon. This isn't it. Market it as a trident R or something. It's kinda a slap in the face to those of us who miss the Daytona and didn't want to see it taken off the showroom floor.
As the owner of a Street Triple Moto2 and a '17 Street Triple RS, there's a reason for that. The Moto2 is epic on track days but honesty on the road, the older bike with flat bars is more fun. There's a reason no ones buying sports bikes.
Why ? They are almost the same price new... If you can afford a 9,320$ motorcycle, you can afford a 9,995$ motorcycle.....when you add on freight/tax/registration/prep it's like 6% more for a much better speed triple
@tomburrows19 the cbr600rr and and zx6rr are available to anyone that wants to step up to a supersport.. I like that people have a lot more options now. Supersports are not practical for the road most of the time. Especially with the potholes around now
I think of this bike as a Trident RR I guess. The daytona was so sharp and had very premium componants for a 600cc class bike. I disagree with the name, but its clearly not a bad bike for what it is.
Do you know what the original Daytona was? The new model here is closer to the original than the super sport model was… even models until the early 2000’s like the 955i were a more laid back, plush version compared to other liter bikes… if anything the super sports you talk of are further from a Daytona…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah, I get what you’re saying and fair point. But, if you said Triumph Daytona to a fellow motorcycle enthusiast they’d likely be thinking of the 2009-2016 models because they were… genuinely special, and a very focused sports bike.
I am glad you addressed the handling, as I was confused by the "journos" that trashed it, as Triumph knows how to build bikes that handle well, and I would have been surprised if they had actually released a bike that handled as badly as they said.
Hands down. The best review of this bike so far. Absolutely fu£#ing epic Al. The sound. The imagery. You guys absolutely smashed the competition to bits. And you managed to use the auto caption button. Which MCN hasn't worked out yet😂🤣
Adjustable suspension is really only needed for dialing in on the track. The a commuter bike it’s not that big a deal. My current bike has adjustable suspension and it works fine. But I’m fairly average size, 6 feet tall and 190 lbs…
@@nockianlifter661 for commuting through traffic you don’t need adjustable suspension. If you’re looking to do track days or ride the canyons then you might want adjustments. But for the commuter it’s unnecessary…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 If you’re outside of the standard setup then it makes the bike safer and more comfortable. Even commuting. Take my old Monster 1100s without any free sag in the rear, it was throwing me out of the seat over even the mildest bumps at low speeds. Having the ability to dial in some sag made it much easier to ride.
Evening Al….I don’t have a bike at present, but….this is at the top of my list, for dipping my toe back in the water….fast enough, comfortable enough, cheap enough, and it’s British…well Triumph…👍😂👌🇮🇲
I don't understand the confusion over this bike. It's the same format as the CBR600F if I understand it correctly, not as aggressive as a supersport and more aggressive than a naked. More a sport touring setup I'd love one
I wasn't really looking for this to be as track-focused as the old daytona- but I was hoping they didn't dial it back too much that it would be bad on track. All your input plus the news of a race kit gives me tons of assurance- and I'd probably try and build one. Awesome review as always, Al!
As always Al, your reviews are direct and clear to the point. I loved your point highlighting the fact that the brakes are ‘good’ regardless of the affixation over what others would regard as inferior if it did not have the branding badge - enjoy your reviews which is why I few years back I went out and bought a 765 RS on the back of your expert knowledge - just dont tell Chris I said that - he’ll get well jel! 😊
The Daytona has always been a roadbiased sports bike. It moved away from that with the 675, but that's the exception and not the rule. Your reference to the Daytona 600 is the best way to compare. It's a great looking bike. I'd consider one if I were in the market for this sector.
Reference quick shifter , I’ve got the tiger sport 660 and I didn’t bother getting one , been riding 52 years and it’s got the lightest clutch action I’ve ever come across , plus seat height for smaller riders , had mine lowered by 2 1/2 cms with a lowering kit it’s now perfect , didn’t get a lower seat because not needed. Looks nice popping over to my dealer’s tomorrow to have a look . Love that deep red , my favourite colour 😊👍👍
Not really! Daytona 955 had a lot more power, better, fully adjustible suspension, better styling with mono rear, this "Daytona" can't be compared to early ones.
@@motomehanicar459I didn’t write they had the same power, I wrote the character of the bikes is the same. IE the trident being a naked less powerful version of the Daytona 660, just as the speed triple 955i was naked and less powerful version of the Daytona 955i. The tiger 660 now acting as the sprint 955i. All of which were street oriented, lumpy power plants, 660 to 955i. It couldn’t be more obvious to anyone with a bare knowledge of triumphs street fighter lineup. Objectively, they look similar as well.
@@motomehanicar459 you just wanted to tell someone they were wrong so you overlooked what I had actually written. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine.
@@cowmath77 Not really, everyone woud understand same as I did (that's why you have only 13 likes), but your desire to be understood and accepted is greater than any reasonable explanation. It is worthless to argue here coz' you have some issuses man.
Looks fantastic value for the money tbh! My brother has the trident and that motor is lovely so this must be amazing , put some decent tyres on it job done ❤
The talk of a lack of a blipper makes me feel old. I am not young, that's for sure, im middle-aged, but im sonset in my ways that my last two bikes had blippers and I almost never used them. Muscle memory is a bitch sometimes. Id much rather a blipper on my dirt bike. Bouncing over ruts and roots while grabbing the clutch isn't very fun. I honestly wouldn't mind a bike like this with premium suspension. Im old enough to not care too much about power as long as its fun (90 to 120hp is fine) but im still living the glory days on track. My perfect bike would be a fully faired street triple RS with the pegs half inch higher amd half in back, the bars half in forward. I'm an oddly shaped smurf (30in inseam, 5ft 4in and 200lbs in a cow suit wil long arms) Someday id love to be able to get by with only 2 bikes but its just not possible. I need a track bike, a sport touring bike, a dualsport (larger for distance like a 690) and a 2 stroke because everyone needs a 2 stroke.
i bought one, went from a gsxs750 and expected it to be a downgrade in power and i was fine with that because you can't use all that power on most roads unless they are straight anyway, i was actually very surprised at power delivery when i first rode it, iv owned a street triple and they would leave a gsxs750 for dead handling wise (i missed that), it handles better than the street triple i had aswell. power delivery and handling combined i think you would find it a very quick bike for the road and good everyday bike.
Thanks old mate for being straight up. It is what it is. In this day and age it sounds like a great machine. Good commuter and got the herds when u want to give it soon. Keep doing what u r doing. 👌
Will be interesting to know the stats of sales figures for the new honda CBR600RR and CBR650R end of the year. If the CBR650R is sold much more, then unfortunately makes sense for the traditional superstore category to die out and this style taking over.
No CBR600RR is not just for road use rather Supersport track and race too. CBR650R is son of CBR600F the do it all bike, so different uses, all perfectly valid.
Having ridden both (not current model year) its utterly baffling to me that people could walk into a dealership and pick a 650R over a 600RR, the 600RR is just vastly superior. If you want naked ergos, buy a naked, if you want a sportsbike, buy a sportsbike. Trying to merge both styles together is just making a compromised bike.
@@Fuzzerino Each to their own preference. Honda must have the data to show that 650R is a winner for enough customers to make it worth building. It was the only 6X0 choice available from 2017 when 600RR was discontinued. 600F was on sale for decades before that so a market is there...
I think this looks brilliant. I currently have a Street Triple and am thinking of adding this to the garage to compliment it. I really don't want a 765 Daytona, as except for a few track days each year, where would I be able to use its performance? This is a bike I could actually ride hard on the street without a constant threat to my license.
Let's not kid ourselves here - 95hp is still seriously quick. I've owned a naked 91hp bike and I was still riding around over 100mph all the time. With a few more ponies, that slippy little fairing taking away some of the sensation of speed, and the more committed ergos, I think this is still a very nice little licence loser.😅 I know you can get lighter bikes with 200hp, but let's keep things in perspective - my licence would be barely any safer on this.😇
Same wheels as the 660, which I have broken 2 times front and rear in potholes, Thailand. Beware on UK roads of potholes. I can supply link of video evidence on the rim breakages. Other than that, I would buy one
I'm really not into these small bikes but imo, complaints about things like suspension comes from experienced riders: • new riders won't be pushing it like some of these journos have • new riders won't know the difference anyway I started on a CBR 600 F4 and thought it was absolutely fine. Until I bought something newer and could then understand the differences. Maybe you should do a group test with these types of bikes and get a couple of new riders to give their thoughts. Chuck in a cap and a t-shirt lol
Cant wait to see all the comments from the ones who think it needs more power, bigger engine etc. Its usually the ones who wouldnt even be able to use the full potential of this bike on the road.
It’s more setup as a sports tourer realistically but the manufacturers know that most young people think sports bike sounds cooler etc. I’m glad they had another option it’s just a shame the black one looks cheap but isn’t so ugly at least
"Leave for a man with a proper Daytona" 😂 I was or still am looking at this bike for my first time on bigger engine, but it does carry a lot of stigma with the daytona name. Sort of reminds me of the Toyota supra name being used for a car that wasn't really a supra, only by name. I guess being new to the triumph brand, all I really care about is if it's good on the roads and comfortable enough to be a first bike for some summer cruising.
Feels like the bike industry as far as sport bikes are concerned is either a nutty 1000cc that needs a tuning shop to unlock its potential fully, or a sub 100bhp twin. The 2 600’s that are made won’t last long because they won’t sell and again, because of euro 5 they’ll be shite in standard form.
Great video as always. It is attractive to my eye, and I get why they made it. I bet my wife would love this one, I am not some sort of pro mind you, remotely but I bet she would see this and just fall in love. It looks good, performs well, simple stuff not to be distracted by (electronics/screen). I'm new to the Triumph brand, I just left the KTM ranch absolutely love the fit and finish of these bikes, and honestly I had never been inside a Triumph dealership. I have a 2023 1200 GT Pro a 2024 street triple RS and a 2023 Husky 701 Enduro. I am just in love with the noises the triple makes, I hope Triumph gets more serious with the offroading stuff I'd love something other than my 701, nothing wrong with it mind you, just want to see some competition.
I have a trident 660, honestly you don't need a quick shifter. You can power shift with no problem. I think it would almost spoil the bike if you didn't learn how nice the clutch is.
I’m so happy that we’re kinda back in the 80’s with how bikes are being made. I’ve had quite a few 1000cc bikes and to be honest they aren’t that fun. Yeah they are fast but they do exactly what you’d think they would. I got a CFmoto 450ss for the fuck of it and I’m completely in love with it. Everyone wants to talk to me about and the quality is totally fine for what it is. I literally was riding and keeping up with my buddy who has a 30k Ducati v4. This is completely subjective but I find it more fun to be blown away by a budget bike they have a meh experience on an expensive bike. Just so you know I’m not talking out of my ass I’ve own 23 bikes of all kinds but that includes bmw s1000rr x 2, s1000r, Ducati 1199, Kawasaki H2. And again a ton of other bikes and I’d take the new CFmoto 450ss over any of those 1000cc bikes. I’m not shit at riding however I will never be able to ride a 1000 to its limits. I’m very excited to see the middleweight bikes have such juicy engines and electronics. Thank you for coming to my TED talk 😂
I live close to Benidorm, this route is one my favorites, if anyone reads this and is in the Alicante region, send me a message if you fancy going out for a ride. P.S. Don’t worry I’m not a serial killer 😂😂😂
Though I still think Triumph made a mistake from a marketing point of view, naming it Daytona, there may very well be some sort of contractual reason with the Moto2 stuff. Regardless, as a Triumph fanoldbloke with a 765RS2023, Triumph may have got it spot on here. Triumph, may well have enough power now to influence the market and within a short period we're all thinking this level of bike being 'the daytona'.
I mean if it was called 660 sport then people would like it a lot more! I think it's good triumph are trying to get more people into riding, particularly getting people to stay with motorcycles after 125s
Great fun ride. Sure the engine is best in its class and suspension does not need to be adjustable. However others say the suspension damping is poor and the bike dives under heavy breaking and squats under heavy acceleration, impacting the line. The 8R and R7 appear to be way better handling. The dash is not in the market at all and electronics just there. So a good bike but not really Daytona handling so not a great bike?
I knew the comments were going to be filled with people complaining that this isn’t a true Daytona and that’s fine but not everyone wants a squid missile. Though I do have to say I love my Daytona 675….
Yeah at that magical number, adjustable suspension front and rear is a must, there are new old stock and very low mileage used other bikes out there, near me right now new 23' mt-09, 7900 / 23' mt-09sp, 9500 / 23' xsr900, 8400 / gsxs750, 7200 / 23' gsxs1000, 9500......
@@loftyintentions1985beautiful choice and desicion. I'd kepp my 11' r6, 12' cbr1krr, 07/08 cbr6rr than selling one off to get one of these sports touring bikes under 70hp. I actually ridden the cbr650r and man.. even tho it's a inline 4, it was so frkng slow. Wot and it's still slow and I got so bored of it tbh. It doesn't even scream like a Ss bike
@@Jason.cbr1000rr this whole "new class" bs is getting boring. It's as if manufacturers only just started making street friendly sportbikes. The difference between those sportbikes and these sportbikes is those sportbikes didn't need the same name of supersports and superbikes in order to sell. Keep those beauties, pal. Hold on to them as long as you can. I think we're in the category of modern classics so in a few years they'll be rare collectors. Especially as everything is being pushed into electric.
Hi Al, how can the handling be vague due to the tires… they use the new Michelin Power 6 tires which everybody says are just super…? It is just a surprise they build down to a budget and then use these premium tires… or do you disagree? Do you hate Michelin tires?
Everyone: We want a street triple with fairings!
Triumph: Here's a trident with fairings.
And what gets me the absolute most, is the speed triple is almost the same price ! It's like 7% more out the door for SOOOO MUCH MORE !
They made one, no one bought it.
@@nockianlifter661 ok well that's a fair point but I'd still be happy if they offered a fairing kit you could buy as an add on. And yes the trident with fairings will be a great bike around town. It's just when I think Daytona, I think raw performance razor sharp weapon. This isn't it. Market it as a trident R or something. It's kinda a slap in the face to those of us who miss the Daytona and didn't want to see it taken off the showroom floor.
As the owner of a Street Triple Moto2 and a '17 Street Triple RS, there's a reason for that. The Moto2 is epic on track days but honesty on the road, the older bike with flat bars is more fun. There's a reason no ones buying sports bikes.
Daytona 675 and Daytona 765 moto2 sales figures say otherwise
I think I’d still go for a lightly used 765R. Wouldn’t swap my 675R for one either. But I’m sure new riders will love it. ❤
Exact same here. Used STR with ABS is great for new riders. I deeply love mine.
Yeah this seems like a very different bike.
Why ? They are almost the same price new... If you can afford a 9,320$ motorcycle, you can afford a 9,995$ motorcycle.....when you add on freight/tax/registration/prep it's like 6% more for a much better speed triple
@@PeterPorsche1I'm sorry, a new rider really shouldn't be starting on a 100+ hp bike unless they're coming from dirt bikes tbh
Very boring to look at
All these companies trying to convince us that these lukewarm 650s are suitable replacements for supersport 600s seems patronizing imho
These sub 100hp bikes are meant to be sold to A2 Riders, I'm glad that Honda and Kawasaki still do 600cc bikes
Unfortunately you'll have to get used to it. Blame the various Governments of the world for introducing ever stricter emissions laws.
In fairness, no one bought the 600s any more, and none of the manufacturers are claiming these are proper sports bikes.
@tomburrows19 the cbr600rr and and zx6rr are available to anyone that wants to step up to a supersport.. I like that people have a lot more options now. Supersports are not practical for the road most of the time. Especially with the potholes around now
They're not a replacement for supersports, they're are a completely different style of bike
Great to see the regular content Al, legend!
Looking forward to seeing how this compares to the new CBR650R
I think of this bike as a Trident RR I guess. The daytona was so sharp and had very premium componants for a 600cc class bike. I disagree with the name, but its clearly not a bad bike for what it is.
There is still a super-premium full-power version on the market: it's called MV Agusta.
Should have called it the Jacksonville 660
Do you know what the original Daytona was? The new model here is closer to the original than the super sport model was… even models until the early 2000’s like the 955i were a more laid back, plush version compared to other liter bikes… if anything the super sports you talk of are further from a Daytona…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 Yeah, I get what you’re saying and fair point. But, if you said Triumph Daytona to a fellow motorcycle enthusiast they’d likely be thinking of the 2009-2016 models because they were… genuinely special, and a very focused sports bike.
-everybody: mehh this is not a supersport
-also everybody: *buys a touring
bike*
Do agree that there's a difference between what you want on the road & track 👍
I am glad you addressed the handling, as I was confused by the "journos" that trashed it, as Triumph knows how to build bikes that handle well, and I would have been surprised if they had actually released a bike that handled as badly as they said.
Some great videos you’ve been pushing out recently 👍
Proper launch video, well done on a professional job. Thanks for answering my question too (bad UK Roads)
Nice to see a proper review and not from the point of view that we are all off to compete in the IOM TT on the bike. Top notch as always
15cc from greatness.
Hands down. The best review of this bike so far. Absolutely fu£#ing epic Al. The sound. The imagery. You guys absolutely smashed the competition to bits. And you managed to use the auto caption button. Which MCN hasn't worked out yet😂🤣
No suspension adjustment 😮 owned 30 bikes and not adjusted any of them and I suspect like 90% of riders.
Adjustable suspension is really only needed for dialing in on the track. The a commuter bike it’s not that big a deal. My current bike has adjustable suspension and it works fine. But I’m fairly average size, 6 feet tall and 190 lbs…
I’ve both adjusted and changed suspension. Setting up basic sag really is a necessity if you want a bike to ride and handle.
@@sleeper.simulant7327 not true.
@@nockianlifter661 for commuting through traffic you don’t need adjustable suspension. If you’re looking to do track days or ride the canyons then you might want adjustments. But for the commuter it’s unnecessary…
@@sleeper.simulant7327 If you’re outside of the standard setup then it makes the bike safer and more comfortable. Even commuting. Take my old Monster 1100s without any free sag in the rear, it was throwing me out of the seat over even the mildest bumps at low speeds. Having the ability to dial in some sag made it much easier to ride.
44T is so damn gooooood! Thanks for all the quality content!!
you're in a class of your own right now Al. Fair play mate
Evening Al….I don’t have a bike at present, but….this is at the top of my list, for dipping my toe back in the water….fast enough, comfortable enough, cheap enough, and it’s British…well Triumph…👍😂👌🇮🇲
You’ll do alright with it!
Do it. I'm like you and put in a deposit for this days ago.
Manufactured in Taiwan
I don't understand the confusion over this bike.
It's the same format as the CBR600F if I understand it correctly, not as aggressive as a supersport and more aggressive than a naked. More a sport touring setup
I'd love one
I wasn't really looking for this to be as track-focused as the old daytona- but I was hoping they didn't dial it back too much that it would be bad on track. All your input plus the news of a race kit gives me tons of assurance- and I'd probably try and build one.
Awesome review as always, Al!
As always Al, your reviews are direct and clear to the point. I loved your point highlighting the fact that the brakes are ‘good’ regardless of the affixation over what others would regard as inferior if it did not have the branding badge - enjoy your reviews which is why I few years back I went out and bought a 765 RS on the back of your expert knowledge - just dont tell Chris I said that - he’ll get well jel! 😊
Al Fagan, this review is making me want to test ride one of these bikes.
The Daytona has always been a roadbiased sports bike. It moved away from that with the 675, but that's the exception and not the rule. Your reference to the Daytona 600 is the best way to compare. It's a great looking bike. I'd consider one if I were in the market for this sector.
Treat it for what it is... A road bike, not a track day bike. Most folk would be happy with this bike, great engine.
Most folks would be happy on modern middle-weight bike, the point of reviews is to see what you would be more value/fun for the money
Reference quick shifter , I’ve got the tiger sport 660 and I didn’t bother getting one , been riding 52 years and it’s got the lightest clutch action I’ve ever come across , plus seat height for smaller riders , had mine lowered by 2 1/2 cms with a lowering kit it’s now perfect , didn’t get a lower seat because not needed. Looks nice popping over to my dealer’s tomorrow to have a look . Love that deep red , my favourite colour 😊👍👍
If Fagan says the suspension is okay, its good enough for my riding level. Gonna look to replace my 600F3 with one of these.
And then I'd gladly buy your F3!
Wait you would replace an MV Agusta F3, with this? It's a completely different league of a bike, why would you downgrade so much?
@@otakarlibal CBR
Looks just like a Daytona 955i to me, seems like the suspension and motor have similar character as well to the 955i, just mini modern version.
Not really!
Daytona 955 had a lot more power, better, fully adjustible suspension, better styling with mono rear, this "Daytona" can't be compared to early ones.
@@motomehanicar459I didn’t write they had the same power, I wrote the character of the bikes is the same.
IE the trident being a naked less powerful version of the Daytona 660, just as the speed triple 955i was naked and less powerful version of the Daytona 955i. The tiger 660 now acting as the sprint 955i. All of which were street oriented, lumpy power plants, 660 to 955i.
It couldn’t be more obvious to anyone with a bare knowledge of triumphs street fighter lineup.
Objectively, they look similar as well.
@@cowmath77 You didn't express yourself well enough in the first comment.
Now that you explained well, your comment make sense.
@@motomehanicar459 you just wanted to tell someone they were wrong so you overlooked what I had actually written. Everyone else seemed to understand just fine.
@@cowmath77 Not really, everyone woud understand same as I did (that's why you have only 13 likes), but your desire to be understood and accepted is greater than any reasonable explanation.
It is worthless to argue here coz' you have some issuses man.
Looks fantastic value for the money tbh! My brother has the trident and that motor is lovely so this must be amazing , put some decent tyres on it job done ❤
I like the look of it and the rideability around town seems pretty good, 30mph in 4th gear with no judder is decent.
Looking forward to the group test of this class, when you can arrange it. :)
The talk of a lack of a blipper makes me feel old. I am not young, that's for sure, im middle-aged, but im sonset in my ways that my last two bikes had blippers and I almost never used them. Muscle memory is a bitch sometimes.
Id much rather a blipper on my dirt bike. Bouncing over ruts and roots while grabbing the clutch isn't very fun.
I honestly wouldn't mind a bike like this with premium suspension. Im old enough to not care too much about power as long as its fun (90 to 120hp is fine) but im still living the glory days on track.
My perfect bike would be a fully faired street triple RS with the pegs half inch higher amd half in back, the bars half in forward.
I'm an oddly shaped smurf (30in inseam, 5ft 4in and 200lbs in a cow suit wil long arms)
Someday id love to be able to get by with only 2 bikes but its just not possible. I need a track bike, a sport touring bike, a dualsport (larger for distance like a 690) and a 2 stroke because everyone needs a 2 stroke.
I can see this being one of the most popular LAMs bikes here in Aus for quite a while
I don't mind a base model that you can buy factory upgrades for. It's a great idea. It sounds like the engine is a peach, so it may be well worth it.
Change the forks and shock too.
Ahh i was there 2/3 days before with the brits! Hope to catch you at the next one
Sounds like a BMW k75s i know sad to say i had one for 5 years i loved it .
I did too, LOVE that exhaust note
I’d rather have a K75S
Good review. Shame about the comments section.
i bought one, went from a gsxs750 and expected it to be a downgrade in power and i was fine with that because you can't use all that power on most roads unless they are straight anyway, i was actually very surprised at power delivery when i first rode it, iv owned a street triple and they would leave a gsxs750 for dead handling wise (i missed that), it handles better than the street triple i had aswell.
power delivery and handling combined i think you would find it a very quick bike for the road and good everyday bike.
What tyres would you go for and would they peel back, or reseat your foreskin on another ride out?
Thanks old mate for being straight up. It is what it is. In this day and age it sounds like a great machine. Good commuter and got the herds when u want to give it soon.
Keep doing what u r doing. 👌
Think I'd take the Aprilia.
Nah. Rather buy a used 675
675R 😁👍
Will be interesting to know the stats of sales figures for the new honda CBR600RR and CBR650R end of the year. If the CBR650R is sold much more, then unfortunately makes sense for the traditional superstore category to die out and this style taking over.
No CBR600RR is not just for road use rather Supersport track and race too. CBR650R is son of CBR600F the do it all bike, so different uses, all perfectly valid.
Feels like the only sensible comment here. We have a bunch of Valentino Rossi's here shitting on any bike below 120 Hp.
Having ridden both (not current model year) its utterly baffling to me that people could walk into a dealership and pick a 650R over a 600RR, the 600RR is just vastly superior. If you want naked ergos, buy a naked, if you want a sportsbike, buy a sportsbike. Trying to merge both styles together is just making a compromised bike.
@@Fuzzerino Each to their own preference. Honda must have the data to show that 650R is a winner for enough customers to make it worth building. It was the only 6X0 choice available from 2017 when 600RR was discontinued. 600F was on sale for decades before that so a market is there...
Seems like a more sporty version of the Ninja 650, a grand more expensive though!
A grand more expensive with 30 more horsepower and with 300% more engine character I’d take this any day over a ninja 650
that’s literally nothing for this upgrade, the kawasaki is basically unchanged since 2010, terrible brakes and boring engine
I saw that a ninja 650 abs is 8900$ ... Flabbergasted at that nonsense.
I'm sure they'll be a lot of haters, but this looks like a cracking bike for the money. Give us a 765 now Triumph!
I think this looks brilliant. I currently have a Street Triple and am thinking of adding this to the garage to compliment it. I really don't want a 765 Daytona, as except for a few track days each year, where would I be able to use its performance? This is a bike I could actually ride hard on the street without a constant threat to my license.
Let's not kid ourselves here - 95hp is still seriously quick. I've owned a naked 91hp bike and I was still riding around over 100mph all the time. With a few more ponies, that slippy little fairing taking away some of the sensation of speed, and the more committed ergos, I think this is still a very nice little licence loser.😅
I know you can get lighter bikes with 200hp, but let's keep things in perspective - my licence would be barely any safer on this.😇
Funny how the Tiger 660 reminds me of the Fazer 600 and this reminds me of the Thundercat.
Same wheels as the 660, which I have broken 2 times front and rear in potholes, Thailand.
Beware on UK roads of potholes. I can supply link of video evidence on the rim breakages.
Other than that, I would buy one
I'm really not into these small bikes but imo, complaints about things like suspension comes from experienced riders:
• new riders won't be pushing it like some of these journos have
• new riders won't know the difference anyway
I started on a CBR 600 F4 and thought it was absolutely fine. Until I bought something newer and could then understand the differences.
Maybe you should do a group test with these types of bikes and get a couple of new riders to give their thoughts. Chuck in a cap and a t-shirt lol
This is a sport bike in the same way that lawn bowling is a sport.
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This is the review I have been waiting for. Can't wait to the long loaner of the 1390 as well
How would it fair against other market SSports like the Panigale baby 950, and most important is will it make your pillion squirt.
54mpg and you weren't hanging about.
*THAT'S IMPRESSIVE*
Cant wait to see all the comments from the ones who think it needs more power, bigger engine etc. Its usually the ones who wouldnt even be able to use the full potential of this bike on the road.
Love the sound of triumph triples
A commuter for triumph fans?! 😮😊
9:08 - these are the real comments we're here for.
The question about the wife leaving for a man with a real Daytona got me 😂😂😂
Decent review 👍🏻 I’ve got a deposit down on one, just hoping it’s a worthy upgrade to my 2018 CBR650F.
Al's been a naughty boy so he got stuck with the Bavarians?
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22:24 .... NOOOOooooyyyyEEEESSSSS....
It’s more setup as a sports tourer realistically but the manufacturers know that most young people think sports bike sounds cooler etc. I’m glad they had another option it’s just a shame the black one looks cheap but isn’t so ugly at least
I think its an excellent post full bike test bike but I wish they had called it the Silverstone or Snetterton 660 not the Daytona..
"Leave for a man with a proper Daytona" 😂 I was or still am looking at this bike for my first time on bigger engine, but it does carry a lot of stigma with the daytona name. Sort of reminds me of the Toyota supra name being used for a car that wasn't really a supra, only by name.
I guess being new to the triumph brand, all I really care about is if it's good on the roads and comfortable enough to be a first bike for some summer cruising.
My wife would look great on the red one! Thanks for the review :)
So what your saying is if I want a bike that’s like sitting on the toilet while holding a broken pool cue
This is the bike for me 👍
Feels like the bike industry as far as sport bikes are concerned is either a nutty 1000cc that needs a tuning shop to unlock its potential fully, or a sub 100bhp twin. The 2 600’s that are made won’t last long because they won’t sell and again, because of euro 5 they’ll be shite in standard form.
Great video as always.
It is attractive to my eye, and I get why they made it. I bet my wife would love this one, I am not some sort of pro mind you, remotely but I bet she would see this and just fall in love. It looks good, performs well, simple stuff not to be distracted by (electronics/screen).
I'm new to the Triumph brand, I just left the KTM ranch absolutely love the fit and finish of these bikes, and honestly I had never been inside a Triumph dealership. I have a 2023 1200 GT Pro a 2024 street triple RS and a 2023 Husky 701 Enduro. I am just in love with the noises the triple makes, I hope Triumph gets more serious with the offroading stuff I'd love something other than my 701, nothing wrong with it mind you, just want to see some competition.
Quick Shifter, move your feet and hands faster, easy.
Is it also very plasticky? And creaky?
I have a trident 660, honestly you don't need a quick shifter. You can power shift with no problem. I think it would almost spoil the bike if you didn't learn how nice the clutch is.
The only one light working while on low beam must be a Europe thing, here in Australia my 18 765r has both lights on in low beam.
I’m so happy that we’re kinda back in the 80’s with how bikes are being made. I’ve had quite a few 1000cc bikes and to be honest they aren’t that fun. Yeah they are fast but they do exactly what you’d think they would. I got a CFmoto 450ss for the fuck of it and I’m completely in love with it. Everyone wants to talk to me about and the quality is totally fine for what it is. I literally was riding and keeping up with my buddy who has a 30k Ducati v4. This is completely subjective but I find it more fun to be blown away by a budget bike they have a meh experience on an expensive bike. Just so you know I’m not talking out of my ass I’ve own 23 bikes of all kinds but that includes bmw s1000rr x 2, s1000r, Ducati 1199, Kawasaki H2. And again a ton of other bikes and I’d take the new CFmoto 450ss over any of those 1000cc bikes. I’m not shit at riding however I will never be able to ride a 1000 to its limits. I’m very excited to see the middleweight bikes have such juicy engines and electronics. Thank you for coming to my TED talk 😂
Playing around with suspension…. Change fork springs and use a C spanner on the shocks….
I live close to Benidorm, this route is one my favorites, if anyone reads this and is in the Alicante region, send me a message if you fancy going out for a ride.
P.S. Don’t worry I’m not a serial killer 😂😂😂
I decide after I see the PHR parts, can't find a sniff of them anywhere yet.
Back in my day EVERY midweight sport bike had one high and one low beam and we liked it, dammit!
Might be nice to compare is to a Ducati Supersport! Although the price level is far apart, it serves the same goal.
Why do they all get horrible handle bars
Having ridden the Triumph 765/660 and the Yam CP3 I prefer the CP3 for actual grunt.
Great test Al.I wonder how far behind you those journos complaining about the suspension were?
Good honest vlog ✊
Though I still think Triumph made a mistake from a marketing point of view, naming it Daytona, there may very well be some sort of contractual reason with the Moto2 stuff. Regardless, as a Triumph fanoldbloke with a 765RS2023, Triumph may have got it spot on here.
Triumph, may well have enough power now to influence the market and within a short period we're all thinking this level of bike being 'the daytona'.
I mean if it was called 660 sport then people would like it a lot more! I think it's good triumph are trying to get more people into riding, particularly getting people to stay with motorcycles after 125s
Do you think that the suspension is capable of dealing with what the engine, which appears to be quite punchy, can dish out?
Launch season, wooo hoo. You are spoiling us with these daily uploads. Any new hotness going at JHS?
15:04 can we briefly appreciate this gentleman's math skills or correct him by 0.746 miles
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Personal preference of course
Rode a Trident 660 and it was very gutless and underwhelming.
Great fun ride. Sure the engine is best in its class and suspension does not need to be adjustable. However others say the suspension damping is poor and the bike dives under heavy breaking and squats under heavy acceleration, impacting the line. The 8R and R7 appear to be way better handling. The dash is not in the market at all and electronics just there. So a good bike but not really Daytona handling so not a great bike?
I get that it's not a new 675 but they could at least have tried to make it as pretty as one.
Best reveiw so far
im not sure i love the short tails of these new mid range bikes they look abit soft
It's probably a great bike for most riders most of the time. Problem is, most of us think we need more...
I knew the comments were going to be filled with people complaining that this isn’t a true Daytona and that’s fine but not everyone wants a squid missile. Though I do have to say I love my Daytona 675….
Ten grand for some non-adjustable forks. Ohh, at least the shock has preload lol. Weak. I would literally rather have a 20 year old R6.
Yeah at that magical number, adjustable suspension front and rear is a must, there are new old stock and very low mileage used other bikes out there, near me right now new 23' mt-09, 7900 / 23' mt-09sp, 9500 / 23' xsr900, 8400 / gsxs750, 7200 / 23' gsxs1000, 9500......
I'll stick with my 17 year old gsxr 600.
@@loftyintentions1985beautiful choice and desicion. I'd kepp my 11' r6, 12' cbr1krr, 07/08 cbr6rr than selling one off to get one of these sports touring bikes under 70hp. I actually ridden the cbr650r and man.. even tho it's a inline 4, it was so frkng slow. Wot and it's still slow and I got so bored of it tbh. It doesn't even scream like a Ss bike
@@Jason.cbr1000rr this whole "new class" bs is getting boring. It's as if manufacturers only just started making street friendly sportbikes. The difference between those sportbikes and these sportbikes is those sportbikes didn't need the same name of supersports and superbikes in order to sell. Keep those beauties, pal. Hold on to them as long as you can. I think we're in the category of modern classics so in a few years they'll be rare collectors. Especially as everything is being pushed into electric.
A proper head to head candidate for the RS660, finally.
Nope. This is more like a competition to the CBR 650R
Not really
This is really a sprint 660, isnt it...
Indeed.👌
Not a sport tourer
Looks just like a Daytona 955i to me.
A Sprint 660 without any of the actual functional benefits of the Sprint.
Trident/tiger engine. Trident swingarm.
Hi Al, how can the handling be vague due to the tires… they use the new Michelin Power 6 tires which everybody says are just super…? It is just a surprise they build down to a budget and then use these premium tires… or do you disagree? Do you hate Michelin tires?
9:10 we did not need to know this part AT ALL. TMI.
you always forget to put the links in the description!