Richard Dawkins Slams Jordan Peterson

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  • @elliothirst3000
    @elliothirst3000 8 місяців тому +12099

    My take is that Peterson is actually an atheist who is trying not to alienate his Christian audience.

    • @stormhawk3319
      @stormhawk3319 8 місяців тому +425

      I think he secretly is.

    • @niclastname
      @niclastname 8 місяців тому +576

      Alex even did a video on this and showed JP saying that god is a fictional character and that the bible is basically metaphor.

    • @davidarbogast37
      @davidarbogast37 8 місяців тому +330

      That's my take on it as well. This is why he creates nebulous talking points in order to avoid asserting an affirmative or negative stance on the topic.

    • @Piercetheveilnow
      @Piercetheveilnow 8 місяців тому +265

      Sure, as he brings THOUSANDS of individuals, including his wife, back to the Church. Brilliant claim.

    • @animegtrailer5208
      @animegtrailer5208 8 місяців тому +113

      ​@@Piercetheveilnow You really think he is s Christian, dude hasn't heard him speak well 😂😂

  • @manguy01
    @manguy01 8 місяців тому +2519

    It's more like Peterson doesn't entirely understand Christianity and you're watching him learn about it in real time as he's working through it and wrestling with it.

    • @dooflydetailguuy4349
      @dooflydetailguuy4349 8 місяців тому +77

      In my opinion we all get this journey eventually.

    • @manguy01
      @manguy01 8 місяців тому +59

      @@dooflydetailguuy4349
      And it's a journey that never really ends, to be honest.

    • @dooflydetailguuy4349
      @dooflydetailguuy4349 8 місяців тому +17

      @@manguy01 I heard that's what eternity is

    • @fearfulartist1236
      @fearfulartist1236 8 місяців тому +103

      He taught a course on the Bible and Christianity for like over a decade. I think he understands. His take is that it's way more profound than wether or not God is "real" that the book is more true than that. It's true weather you think it's real or you don't. That the Bible is full of fundamentally true things even if not historically true.

    • @manguy01
      @manguy01 8 місяців тому +16

      @@fearfulartist1236
      There's a big difference between academic study and religious study. He gets a lot of basic things wrong. A lot less now than a year ago, though.

  • @gregshirley-jeffersonboule6258
    @gregshirley-jeffersonboule6258 6 місяців тому +424

    When I was a graduate student at UC San Diego in the late '90s, I used to eat at a Thai restaurant in La Jolla that was next door to the Chopra Center. One evening a friend and I were having dinner at the restaurant, and we spent most of the dinner listening to a pompous windbag engaging in a very loud and embarrassingly moronic monologue on all sorts of esoteric subjects while a much younger and apparently submissive and impressionable man listened quietly and intently. The windbag had his back to us, so we couldn't see his face, but we heard every word of his drivel. At one point my friend and I leaned toward one another across the table to agree quietly that the fellow doing all the talking was a narcissistic moron. At about that point, the two people stood up to leave, and the windbag turned around so we could see his face. It was Deepak Chopra.

    • @Atclav
      @Atclav 6 місяців тому +4

      Critical thought is going extinct. You certainly got some else’s doze plus your own.

    • @clintoruss153
      @clintoruss153 5 місяців тому +11

      Imagine how big his ego is, if u disagreed with him he would probably go insane

    • @gregshirley-jeffersonboule6258
      @gregshirley-jeffersonboule6258 5 місяців тому +3

      @@Atclav Um, what?

    • @waynedonoghue4071
      @waynedonoghue4071 5 місяців тому +14

      Interesting. It reminds of this time me and my girlfriend were eating in this fancy restaurant while on holiday. A few tables up from us this man was talking to his friend. On the table behind him were two middle aged ladies. They were listening to him and giving him these snobby looks behind his back. Basically judging and looking down on him for whatever he was saying.
      Me and my girlfriend noticed their looks and how snobby and nosy they were. And how they were better off minding their own business and enjoying their food.
      You remind me of those two ladies.

    • @TheVeraciety
      @TheVeraciety 5 місяців тому

      @@waynedonoghue4071🔥

  • @Lynxdom
    @Lynxdom 8 місяців тому +662

    Turns out ancient peoples were really into snake porn.

    • @JayJay-ye7ic
      @JayJay-ye7ic 7 місяців тому +18

      Respect

    • @Guztenify
      @Guztenify 7 місяців тому +2

      Yup

    • @HandbrakeBiscuit
      @HandbrakeBiscuit 7 місяців тому +5

      Aaaand this week on "The World's Craziest Accidental Scientific Discoveries"... ;)

    • @sylviaowega3839
      @sylviaowega3839 7 місяців тому +14

      The snake symbol represents medicine, or some divine inspiration, was incipiently brought to the light by Carl G. Jung, and Prof. Peterson was deeply influenced him.

    • @Guztenify
      @Guztenify 7 місяців тому +14

      @@sylviaowega3839 in scandinavian and baltic tradition the snake represents medicine and fertility.

  • @Bibleguy89-uu3nr
    @Bibleguy89-uu3nr 3 місяці тому +554

    I actually think Jordan Peterson has a profound ability to explain things that I didn’t previously understand.

    • @PoliticallyIncorrectBronto
      @PoliticallyIncorrectBronto 3 місяці тому +19

      I think so aswell. Except for religion.

    • @DeaconNorton
      @DeaconNorton 3 місяці тому +33

      Could that be just one more thing you don't understand? ​@@PoliticallyIncorrectBronto

    • @skyeangelofdeath7363
      @skyeangelofdeath7363 3 місяці тому +53

      No, he doesn't.

    • @HanifCarroll
      @HanifCarroll 3 місяці тому +15

      @@skyeangelofdeath7363How can you be sure that Jordan Peterson isn’t able to explain things that this guy didn’t understand? How would you know better than him? 😂

    • @egoinjury
      @egoinjury 3 місяці тому +13

      Yes. That doesn't make him right about everything though

  • @hjc1402
    @hjc1402 8 місяців тому +21

    As a Christian I 100% agree, I think people just think he’s saying something profound, especially when he cries a little while saying it. But he just seems really pretentious.

    • @Aaron.Thomas
      @Aaron.Thomas 6 місяців тому +3

      And kind of sad.
      I think he really needs some good friends.
      And then he can tell them his bs and won't have to embarrass himself in front of everyone else.

  • @bigbalian1751
    @bigbalian1751 2 місяці тому +68

    I couldn’t agree more with Dr Dawkins! 👍

    • @supersagamaster
      @supersagamaster Місяць тому +5

      Same here

    • @1flash3571
      @1flash3571 Місяць тому

      So, you think the Universe just popped human kind out of NOTHING? I guess you believe in Big Bang too? Something came out of NOTHING????? Reeeeeally???? Sounds like word salad to me....

    • @kevingallagher400
      @kevingallagher400 Місяць тому +2

      @@supersagamaster simping

    • @allahbole
      @allahbole Місяць тому +1

      He must be profound because you didn't understand what he said? Also, British accent = smart? /s

  • @spensermitchell4106
    @spensermitchell4106 Місяць тому +20

    His “standing up for Canadian free speech” is a lie too. JP was disingenuous about the whole misgendered language thing.

    • @troubleondemand7703
      @troubleondemand7703 24 дні тому +5

      100%. Nothing has changed. JP himself is proof of that. He just needs to be angry about something to get people to give him more money.

    • @5fr4ewq
      @5fr4ewq 24 дні тому

      What did you expected from Dick?

    • @violettbellerose1173
      @violettbellerose1173 13 днів тому +1

      I find it sad that Dawkins agrees with him on that, it's twisting the truth after all

    • @anewagora
      @anewagora 12 днів тому +1

      People have been threatened, bullied or criminally targeted in their jobs for refusing to use preferred pronouns and now it's a more global phenomenon. The one I recall off hand was an Irish teacher. And I was transgender for 14 years, I'm not remotely anti trans and didn't tolerate people treating me as the wrong gender, especially since I had been abused and denied personhood as a real person throughout childhood. I learned that I had to fight to death to prove my gender and nobody else had to prove it. So you know my reference to JBP is not emotionally or ideologically motivated, since I want people to use pronouns that align with gender identity. I'm just letting you know that he didn't falsify anything and it was not a baseless conspiracy.

    • @troubleondemand7703
      @troubleondemand7703 12 днів тому

      @@anewagora That's so weird, because if you try find evidence of anyone being arrested for misgendering someone, the results are zero. There are some cases where people claim they were arrested for that, but then when you look at the cases it's usually something else that they were arrested for like doxxing. For example, the woman in Ireland who was arrested was actually sharing “confidential details of my personal medical and financial information” on social media.
      I have yet to find a case where an arrest was made for misgendering. JK Rowling's whole career at this point has been doing that online, yet she is still walking around a free woman.

  • @deolihp
    @deolihp 4 місяці тому +25

    I want Dawkins voice saying “it’s sheer bullshit” as my ringtone

    • @deeznutz8320
      @deeznutz8320 2 місяці тому

      If you want everyone to think your Fedora tipping douchebag go for it

  • @justacameraman4900
    @justacameraman4900 8 місяців тому +19

    I don't watch Peterson all the time but frankly most of the time I do it's not that hard to understand what he's saying. He's certainly off by more than a little quite often, but the way he approaches these topics and connects ideas is rather impressive or fascinating at the least, simply because it is interesting and understandable. Even when the dots he's trying to connect.. Don't and aren't supposed to connect.

    • @iranjackheelson
      @iranjackheelson 8 місяців тому +5

      JP is willing to connect dots in ways most serious academics would never dare to. His off the cuff verbal fluency def helps.

    • @MrAlathiel
      @MrAlathiel 8 місяців тому +1

      it is definitely an interesting case study of how a benzos addiction, brain damage from a self induced coma, apple cider as your mortal enemy and a beef diet do to someone.

  • @UnremarkableMarx
    @UnremarkableMarx Місяць тому +1

    I'm Catholic, because duh, Christ is God. But Dawko, nail on the head on Peterson. Prayin' for ya both Doc, we gon' make it.

  • @jamesdrewry5229
    @jamesdrewry5229 8 місяців тому +7

    I believe it was more, Jordan talking at Richard for an hour rather than a conversation.

  • @Ashish14101984
    @Ashish14101984 7 днів тому +4

    Anything what Dawkins doesn't understand is sheer bullsheet.

    • @franklink472
      @franklink472 День тому +1

      You are BS. Dawkins admits he doesn't know physic and he refused to talk about Peterson before years ago because he did not know much about his work. Dawkins is open to admit he doesn't know everything. You are BS just because you hate him and you said BS like this.

    • @Ashish14101984
      @Ashish14101984 15 годин тому

      @@franklink472 Absolutely don't hate Dawkins.. he is one of us. You missed the point in your lovely disposition.

    • @Mikehowarth1988
      @Mikehowarth1988 11 годин тому

      Can you explain Jordans religious stance? He breaks down some of the religious stories well like kane and is able, but I still don't know what he believes or what God is to him.

  • @jimmbear3998
    @jimmbear3998 18 днів тому +1

    I’m an agnostic with a Christian heritage so I attended church and went through confirmation when younger. Although my beliefs are somewhat different than Dawkins i do appreciate that you know where he stands at what he believes when it comes to religion. On the other hand with Peterson I don’t really know, is he agnostic or Christian? IMHO he seems somewhat vague to me, perhaps because he doesn’t want to alienate any particular side?

  • @Balthazar2242
    @Balthazar2242 3 місяці тому

    Yeah, and JP wasn't adamant on that point. He was kind of musing and pondering. He isn't dying on that hill, it's just an interesting idea

  • @criticalthinker-ys7vt
    @criticalthinker-ys7vt Місяць тому +14

    jordan peterson is a non believer who acts like believer to not lose his followers who pay him money.

    • @joemarz2264
      @joemarz2264 Місяць тому

      So? Being a non-believer is definitely a bonus. Most believers are fanatics.

    • @dawgpost90
      @dawgpost90 15 годин тому

      @@joemarz2264 Most believers are not fanatics in any religion. That is beyond silly. That is the reddit, fedora tipping, and "hahaha spaghetti monster" talking point.

  • @jwillied1326
    @jwillied1326 7 місяців тому +12

    Old british atheists are unchill

    • @teeanahera8949
      @teeanahera8949 7 місяців тому

      By definition anyone who is an atheist is chill and smart enough to know that religion is the biggest con ever to have been thought up.

    • @jwillied1326
      @jwillied1326 7 місяців тому +1

      @@teeanahera8949 I'm an atheist. But he's still unchill

    • @BillyViBritannia
      @BillyViBritannia 9 днів тому

      @@jwillied1326 chill dude, if you can still wear a shirt by yourself - let alone speak - at his age, talk again.

    • @jwillied1326
      @jwillied1326 6 днів тому

      @@BillyViBritannia I will be fine, it's the old british atheists i'm worried about!

  • @albyx
    @albyx Місяць тому

    Interestingly enough, that’s exactly how I feel but never knew how to emphasize it. When I hear someone speak about something that clearly sounds like they don’t know what they’re talking about, I stop listening or tune them out in conversation. Jordan, Rogan, Poole, Shapiro, they all use similar tactics to overwhelm the people they connect to with the intention to dominate, instead of communicate.

  • @Jahson70
    @Jahson70 27 днів тому +1

    Because Richard Dawkins knows all about ancient tribes people.

    • @robertpodbery242
      @robertpodbery242 21 день тому +2

      He never said that he did, He was saying that taking a snake design and saying that it is similar to DNA is bull, Which it is, there is no sane person that would disagree

  • @magdeykarrass7747
    @magdeykarrass7747 Місяць тому +6

    When I look at Richard Dawkins I don’t see a man in peace with himself but an argumentative spirit within himself it’s a spirit of pride that pierces his bones, he must find the redeemer before it’s too late for him

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 29 днів тому

      I doubt Rassilon would be able to help

  • @ctkmarak2717
    @ctkmarak2717 3 місяці тому

    I just replaced the implied name, JP, with the implicator's name, RD, with all that was being said here, and discovered that both made equal sense. 😄

  • @Canu16
    @Canu16 Місяць тому +10

    Peterson is not fighting for “free speech”… he is fighting for “free hate speech”… that’s all another story!

    • @muchiribantu3226
      @muchiribantu3226 Місяць тому +4

      Which, when you think about it, is also free speech.

    • @Canu16
      @Canu16 Місяць тому

      @@muchiribantu3226 yes… and if u think about it, you know that no one has never tried to take it away from him, and he has used it to became a famous political figure by saying the things that all conservatives say pretending to be a victim (of hate speech) but, at the same time, going all over the world spreading misinformation and bull shit. How convenient, uh…?

    • @briancox9357
      @briancox9357 Місяць тому +4

      Free speech includes hate speech. Hate speech is defined by law, culture and politics. It's free speech or nothing.

    • @SaHaRaSquad
      @SaHaRaSquad 29 днів тому +2

      @@briancox9357 Your freedom ends where someone else's begins. Some kinds of speech are simply only valuable to show what a hateful miserable person the speaker is. You're free to do that of course, but so far the countries that outlawed it have lost nothing of value.
      In some countries it's also illegal to have swastika tattoos and flags, and guess what, it never affected any reasonable person.

    • @concernedliberal4453
      @concernedliberal4453 27 днів тому

      @@SaHaRaSquad Nonsense. The censorship never stops at swastikas. Dawkins is referring to the lunatic Canadian laws that criminalize misgendering and pronouns as "hate speech." The slippery slope has become a slippery free-fall

  • @sukotu23
    @sukotu23 9 днів тому

    There's few things i find funnier than hearing a well spoken English accent saying "that is sheer bullshit".

  • @UltraContra711
    @UltraContra711 6 місяців тому +8

    DAWK THE DUMBY

  • @cm3carranza395
    @cm3carranza395 3 місяці тому

    "I know everything except how to button my own shirt." - Dawkins

  • @lemnisgate8809
    @lemnisgate8809 2 місяці тому +6

    So Dawkins basically stated he himself does not appreciate things he can’t understand, and this is the guy intellectuals look up to, smh.

    • @gootmanboats3864
      @gootmanboats3864 2 місяці тому +1

      Do you appreciate things for which you lack understanding?

    • @lemnisgate8809
      @lemnisgate8809 Місяць тому +1

      @@gootmanboats3864 of course, I don’t know how to build a rocket engine but I appreciate those who do because of them I can fly around the country and there are plenty of other things I appreciate I lack understanding of, try again.

    • @aliquida7132
      @aliquida7132 25 днів тому

      Intellectuals DO NOT look up to Peterson. Don't delude yourself.

    • @lemnisgate8809
      @lemnisgate8809 25 днів тому

      @@aliquida7132 because you’re that authority on that 🤣🤣🤣

  • @thecovidprisoner
    @thecovidprisoner Місяць тому +1

    ANYBODY who can help save Europe from Islam is worth listening too . Both Jordan Peterson and Richard Dawkins are in the process of doing that , respect each other and get on with the job please.

  • @PeterBartlett-i2p
    @PeterBartlett-i2p 4 дні тому

    If you can't dazzle with brilliance, baffle with bullshit, that petersons motto.

  • @Lucas-en3bt
    @Lucas-en3bt 16 днів тому +1

    JP is more eloquent and verbally gifted than your average joe but to suggest he says unintelligible meaningless drivel....
    I am french and yet i understand 99% of what he says.
    He has found a way to articulate a lot of things that people have been thinking for a long time. Backs it up with data.
    And i find quite a lot of substance in his speech.
    I am not a christian and maybe he isnt the most well versed in thar regard but his bible lectures are still interesting. And it is such a complex book there isnt one way to look at it.
    Talking to 2 or 3 priests is enough to realize that.

  • @markjohnston8989
    @markjohnston8989 Місяць тому

    Not all heroes wear capes.
    Thank you Richard for all you do.

  • @Lurdiuriah
    @Lurdiuriah 2 місяці тому

    Part of the problem with life is that those you think are much smarter are much dumber to others. And those who normally you will consider dumb may be the wisest to many people. How do you navigate that?
    To some, Jordan Petersson is an upright and highly intelligent persona. Hawkings, who I heard someone in my corner once describe as a tough guy who looks better than he thinks better, seems smart to me. What a life!

  • @generator6946
    @generator6946 2 місяці тому

    Did you know, a small 5 X 5 foot tarp will keep most of the rain off you and …
    You can heat 16 ounces of cold water over a can of Sterno with cross stands on top?
    When you are homeless this is how you get heat INSIDE of you. Practical knowledge and “food for thought” in one go.

  • @RHR1991
    @RHR1991 3 місяці тому

    That is a bold statement for someone that entertains the simulation theory Mr. Dawkins.

  • @bpw8139
    @bpw8139 Місяць тому

    JP has the ability to make complex ideas even more complex than they really are.

  • @danielkelley7548
    @danielkelley7548 14 днів тому

    I respect both Dawkins and Peterson. One thing I’ve noticed about Dawkins though: he seems to be that guy who slanders you when talking to someone else. Then, should he pass you on the street (or on your own podcast) he’s all smiles and pats on the back. He did it to Piers Morgan and now he’s doing it to Jordan Peterson. The former confronted him about that and Dawkins backpedaled and said he actually doesn’t have anything bad to say about him.

  • @navskygupta5311
    @navskygupta5311 26 днів тому

    Just adore Dawkins for not mincing words and avoiding naming people

  • @capitaonemo7216
    @capitaonemo7216 3 місяці тому

    And there are people who consider Dawkins a writer of airport literature with Harari and so on.

  • @johntoplis879
    @johntoplis879 Місяць тому

    In many cases reading a person's books with no prior knowledge of the author would help people take on board the message(s) and take from it as they may. Hopefully in a spirit of betterment of themselves and everyone else.

  • @Peaches328
    @Peaches328 Місяць тому +1

    Jordan Peterson is a good actor. I have seen him in some super dramatic video clips of him crying when speaking about God.
    Religion is good for some ppl. But to insist on everyone in the country has to accept and become a believer like them? NOPE. That will never happen.

  • @goodday-zy2br
    @goodday-zy2br Місяць тому +1

    Dawkins would certainly believe that machines have makers, and everything else has a maker, but this enormous universe have no maker ? Stupid.

  • @ryanjones3043
    @ryanjones3043 3 місяці тому

    Dawkins is calling Peterson out when he can’t even button his shirt properly lol

  • @Xenomorphosis939
    @Xenomorphosis939 23 дні тому

    Maybe we all have it wrong.

  • @toryficarola
    @toryficarola 3 місяці тому

    Peterson's "epiphany" over the coiled snakes made me do a spit take. What a vivid imagination he's got! 😮😅

  • @EvaluateAssimilate
    @EvaluateAssimilate 7 днів тому

    I think that Jordan Peterson sees things on such a subatomic level that everything and anything can be further distilled into more, and more information. I'm not suggesting that's for better or for worse, but those types of thinkers can, and will, try to break down reality to its most infinitesimal level.

  • @nnndddzzz1
    @nnndddzzz1 2 місяці тому +1

    Lol this is why i have such tremendous respect for Richard Dawkins 👍👍

  • @nilist9995
    @nilist9995 3 місяці тому

    I think it’s hard for someone like Richard and most intellects to stomach, another intellectual speculate about religion. For the empiricist/atheist, it’s probably borderline offensive. But Jordan is putting his spiritual hat on and in order to expand on these topics it’s fundamental to be speculative because he’s analyzing the non-empirical based on faith.

  • @MattyCakez18
    @MattyCakez18 16 днів тому

    The “science” community: We don’t know anything, really, except that there is 1000% no God. However…… 13.8 billion years ago-

  • @Faithfulgirly
    @Faithfulgirly 2 місяці тому

    Him pointing out that people that were here before us may have been more advanced than we were taught is not bs. We fancy ourselves as so brilliant nobody before us could be so brilliant. Lol there is a lot that says we are possibly not as advanced. There is evidence of resets where we get advanced and then have to start over. I think some of us have some information on that and because many of us are so limited they won't explore it at all. My teacher or mother never taught me this so it can't be true.

  • @jamesonrichards5105
    @jamesonrichards5105 3 місяці тому

    "It must be terribly profound because I can't understand it." is fucking funny

  • @ashevibes235
    @ashevibes235 2 місяці тому

    “And I told him so” is wild 😭😭

  • @jonnysegway7866
    @jonnysegway7866 25 днів тому

    RD's whole ethos is that we are on our own and there is no divine source, however until the universe is explained then he will not be beleived by everyone

  • @nou-nouchantha8929
    @nou-nouchantha8929 2 місяці тому

    I like when he said sheer bullshit love it when people call people out 😂😂😂

  • @MrFoxfire510
    @MrFoxfire510 3 місяці тому

    Thank goodness we have Richard Dawkins

  • @theunaccompaniedsenior
    @theunaccompaniedsenior 3 місяці тому

    "Reddit-tier" is pretty sophisticated language for a twelve-year-old.

  • @CaringDisneyfan
    @CaringDisneyfan 2 місяці тому

    As a catholic, I totally understand Jordan petersons interpretations. Totally.

  • @stevehilton4052
    @stevehilton4052 3 місяці тому

    I have a good friend who is Canadian and has on more than one occasion described Jordan Peterson as an intellectual bully who can push the right to offend to the limits when he gets emotional.
    My opinion of him rose significantly after the Cathy Newman interview.
    But on the subject of religion I'm not sure of how he actually stands because I've never heard him say he believes in God but praises the bible and the messages.On the other hand he spoke about how humans have learned through instinct how to be social creatures because of its benefits, even letting someone win in some way to " make a friend" ( if you keep playing the same game and keep winning the opponent will stop playing the game,so to keep them playing it takes a compromise on your part )
    So making compromise and feeling empathy ( instinctually) and understanding the value of the Hurd means that the argument by religious people that without god we would become savages.. which doesn't sound like there's much use for the bible...to me

  • @alvarobarrera6014
    @alvarobarrera6014 2 місяці тому

    Never heard a word from Peterson I didn't understand. Never heard him say anything like that literally. Dawkins seems more like a guy who wants to put others down where it puts him up/makes himself more secure. A case of where you are what you acuse others of being.

  • @ljuboizsiska5448
    @ljuboizsiska5448 3 місяці тому

    It's funny, because I have no problem understanding what Peterson is saying even though English is not my native language.

  • @topwomble
    @topwomble Місяць тому +1

    Shame he started with the stupid debunked thing about Bill C16, but correct on the religious angle as usual

  • @susandrydenhenderson6234
    @susandrydenhenderson6234 Місяць тому

    It’s very clear that most people in this section just haven’t read or listened Peterson and are also not very widely read people.

  • @tomservo75
    @tomservo75 Місяць тому

    I like and respect Peterson and Dawkins. I think the critique was a bit unfair. Sure, Peterson talks over our heads but I'd have to hear the two-snakes thing in context, I've listened to Dr. Peterson a lot and I can't ever recall him pushing any sort of religious beliefs, he talks of religion in a pretty casual way.

  • @milesnorsworthy946
    @milesnorsworthy946 25 днів тому

    Shouldn't Peterson have been arrested like twenty times because of the law he was protesting?

  • @Smashingblouse
    @Smashingblouse Місяць тому +1

    I’d prefer it if you didn’t swear. It’s unkind to the ear.

  • @Ollie305
    @Ollie305 3 місяці тому

    Not long now for you Dawkins, Every knee will bow!

  • @pineapple7024
    @pineapple7024 12 днів тому

    Jordan Peterson on “””free speech””” is nonsense, too. He was contesting the addition of trans people to hate crime laws. As in, the laws that prevent people from getting away with screaming the hard R at a black guy. I don’t see Dawkins contesting the free speech of a white supremacist, though

  • @hollybigelow5337
    @hollybigelow5337 28 днів тому

    What’s bizarre to me is I personally think Jordan Peterson’s explanation of his religious beliefs is extremely clear and also well articulated, and to me they sound extremely genuine and well defended. I don’t personally 100% agree with his beliefs, but I completely see why he has them and have no reason to believe he is making them up to gain favor with his followers or to avoid the hard questions, etc., etc. In his book Maps of Meaning his spells out his religious beliefs very clearly, although I’m sure those beliefs continue to evolve.
    What is bizarre to me is how many people criticize his beliefs alleging that he is trying to cater to his followers or is just too stupid to see the truth. I have clicked on several videos of people I thought were supposed to be smart, (Richard Dawkins, Sam Harris, etc.), and basically every single person who criticizes his beliefs DOESN’T EVEN KNOW WHAT HE BELIEVES. Now don’t get me wrong, not every person is expected to know what every other person believes, but if you haven’t even put in the basic effort to be able to summarize what the person is saying they believe and have that track with what the person says they believe you are quite frankly not qualified to make any judgment about whether they are genuine in their beliefs or whether their beliefs have any merit. Now to be fair, sometimes a person’s beliefs are so confusing you can spend years studying them and still not understand them. If you have spent years studying them and can say those beliefs are probably intentionally nonsense to avoid criticism that is one thing. But it doesn’t hold water for Jordan Peterson’s beliefs because I personally understood what Dr. Peterson was saying after studying his beliefs for only a few hours. I seriously doubt I have some superior IQ to giants like Dawkins and Harris, so if they aren’t understanding his beliefs the most logical conclusion is that they haven’t even invested a few hours into actually studying what he believes, but they are still arrogant enough to publicly condemn those beliefs?
    Perhaps that is the answer. Perhaps some people default to immediately dismissing what they don’t understand and immediately default to assuming a person is acting in bad faith until proven otherwise, and when it comes to something nuanced or something that might challenge their preconceived notions they are unwilling to put in enough effort to make it possible for them to be proven otherwise even if someone puts before them the most compelling case that has ever been made with the best evidence and best logic and most factual truth ever.

  • @TheWorld_2099
    @TheWorld_2099 3 місяці тому

    I hugely respect the two of you, and it is such a pleasure to hear that you agree that Jordan Peterson is a total sham.

  • @d-is4dangina371
    @d-is4dangina371 2 місяці тому

    Say you think you’re smarter than everyone else without saying you think you’re smarter than everyone else.
    “I think he uses language people can’t understand and then they believe him” (not a direct quote but you get the idea).
    If only the rest of us Neanderthals could be so sophisticated enough to understand the Bible and not be tricked by a broad vocabulary.

  • @Conn30Mtenor
    @Conn30Mtenor 2 місяці тому +1

    JP is an egregious sophist.

  • @mfit7110
    @mfit7110 Місяць тому

    Jordan doesn’t come at it from a different angle. You just haven’t taken the time to read about it without reading like you’re reading for a test.

  • @nishan375
    @nishan375 Місяць тому

    Dawkins is a light shining and a pillar in the road of my world view. Thank you.

  • @marcusaurelius49
    @marcusaurelius49 Місяць тому

    We don’t have “Free Speech” in Canada, we have Freedom of Expression. It is not the same. Do some research Richard.

  • @AVIDEOGAL
    @AVIDEOGAL 3 місяці тому

    THAT'S THE FIRST TIME DAWKINS EVER SAID SOMETHING I AGREE WITH !!!

  • @Rumham7291
    @Rumham7291 24 дні тому

    oh yes lets praise JP for him complaining about a law where no one has ever been arrested from? good job Dawkins.

  • @lukec6881
    @lukec6881 Місяць тому

    I think hes wrong on the double helix. Some entheogens can allow a deep introspection into the body down to the level of cells and stuff. No idea how its works thought

  • @Des393
    @Des393 Місяць тому

    Everything after Death is just one big question mark.
    The Mystery of where we came from seems to have to remain a Mystery. That's just the way this Cosmic machinery works folks. 🧬

  • @LaneBatman-c2v
    @LaneBatman-c2v 26 днів тому

    He opens doors that doo not exist… this is how I explain him.

  • @batitsogtsaikhan469
    @batitsogtsaikhan469 3 місяці тому

    I don't think Jordan Peterson literally thinks ancient people knew about DNA and drew it in the form of two snakes.
    He was talking about symbols that are recurrent throughout history including the eye of Horus

  • @HowardJohnson-r3f
    @HowardJohnson-r3f 3 місяці тому

    Richard Dawkins doesn't sugar coat it!❤❤❤

  • @Dooblebloock
    @Dooblebloock Місяць тому

    The relationship between Dawkins and Peterson represents a much larger conflict humans are currently undergoing. The people who DON'T NEED meaning, therefore, residing in perceived objective truths at its face value versus people who NEED meaning and reside to exploring past the objective truths for the "adhesive" element between the lines. Which, for the most part, remain subjective theories.
    It's sad because one side is mostly incapable of seeing him/herself in the other persons shoes and really trying to understand what they have to offer. While the other side has no problem for the most part to put themselves in the other shoes, they then choose to step out of them because it simply isn't enough for them....
    I don't know. There's a part of me that believes both can really benefit from each other and make this and hopefully other worlds truly beautiful.

  • @davidestabrook5367
    @davidestabrook5367 25 днів тому

    I don't like Richard Dawkins conflation of "defending free speech" with JP's attacks on trans people by misgendering them.
    Misgendering people is wrong, and intentionally doing it repeatedly is harassment.

    • @SobieWarmate
      @SobieWarmate 23 дні тому

      😂😂😂😂 oh my goodness, is this real?

  • @pierpaolomerluzzi8799
    @pierpaolomerluzzi8799 3 місяці тому

    he doesn't slams JP, he just insults JP...

  • @kevinabbott1456
    @kevinabbott1456 29 днів тому

    Vox Day wrote a great book on Jordan Peterson.

  • @joestrat2723
    @joestrat2723 Місяць тому

    Petersen should be receiving medical treatment, not dispensing it. Good to see a proper scientist call out his snake oil take on the world.

  • @Krawnbundungle
    @Krawnbundungle 3 місяці тому

    Surprising that Dawkins can sniff out Peterson’s lies when it comes to religion, but fails to sniff out Peterson’s lies about Bill C-16

  • @pedromota7569
    @pedromota7569 Місяць тому

    Finally someone who says it! Not surprised it was Dawkins

  • @johnanthonycafe2993
    @johnanthonycafe2993 3 місяці тому

    The 2 snakes could represent Kundalini ? Because the image is mythical it’s open to interpretation but DNA is a long bow.

  • @zachjohnson7692
    @zachjohnson7692 25 днів тому

    Ha! Fair criticism from Dawkins, I love both those guys.
    Dawkins takes no bullshit

  • @BrentWigginsWords
    @BrentWigginsWords Місяць тому

    Has modern philosophy become a safe space for overthinking?

  • @thierrys.6654
    @thierrys.6654 3 місяці тому

    They both swim in the darkness of their limits. And their limits are so deep! Hebrew 3:4. Simple logic that needs no more words but some dark minds would be wiser than they are and try to change simple laws of logic with dark arguments.

  • @bythegraceofadoni
    @bythegraceofadoni 3 місяці тому

    Peterson's power level is still mightier than these two, even if they were to do fusion.

  • @eneveasi
    @eneveasi 2 місяці тому

    I’ve never heard JP compare snakes to DNA or any scientific insight. All his spiritual stuff stays in the spiritual realm, as far as I’ve seen.

  • @Dove.Zima.
    @Dove.Zima. 2 місяці тому

    Jordan Peterson is making the case for religion from a Jungian perspective. The idea is that religions not only have utility, but there is a religious tendency embedded in the human psyche and is integral to our existence. The Christian myths may or may not be literally true, but that is irrelevant when considering the symbolic importance and the actual message that is being communicated.

  • @gusvogt-shields4689
    @gusvogt-shields4689 2 місяці тому

    I think Peterson is more cognizant of the relevance of consciousness than the realm of material significance.

  • @WayneLewisRSP
    @WayneLewisRSP 3 місяці тому +1

    His obsession with “wokeness” often makes Dawkins as much a wing nut as Peterson.

  • @dan_m7774
    @dan_m7774 3 місяці тому

    Dawkins thinking others are talking BS is due to his own standard of profound BS.

  • @giggletub
    @giggletub Місяць тому

    Isn't that a Desmond Morris painting behind RD?

    • @giggletub
      @giggletub Місяць тому

      Of course it is. It's the cover of The Selfish Gene. Just showing how ignorant I am again. Oh dear.

  • @bbbabrock
    @bbbabrock 19 днів тому

    Damnit. I (kinda) respect Peterson for insisting on demanding the right to disrespect people, but in no way do I "respect his courage" for being an asshole and actually doing it. So I find it distressing that Dawkins does.

  • @apwill4765
    @apwill4765 2 місяці тому

    Missed a button.

  • @dolceanstar
    @dolceanstar Місяць тому

    Jordan Peterson epitomises the phrase "a little bit of knowledge can be a dangerous thing". The only talent Peterson has is to take something of which he has very little knowledge and expound upon it as if he was an authority. Gaslying.
    As a psychologist, I wouldn't show him my back, let alone my mind.