Its sad though as it costs them like 25 cents a pack to make at the most. I mean if Chinese knockoffs can sell at 50 cents a pack and make profit then we are truly getting ripped off its why the price increase was a joke. Oh manufacturing went up 5 cents? Lets raise the price 50 cents as they are making 900% markup on these products and want to continue with such a poor value product.
@@vherostarthe pokemon company sells to distributors who then sell it to big box stores or lgs stores who then turn around and sell it to you. if you have a problem write to the distro companies so they can give it to stores for less
I really agree with your comment hoping for a nostalgic look back on gen 2! I hope they do a set dedicated to gen 2, for me gen 2 just hits different, the nostalgia is extra strong. Can’t wait for the release of this though!
A Gen 2 retro set would be awesome! Not too impressed with the pull rates so far. It seems like they are leaning heavily on those holo energies as “hits”
Shame that they seem to have tightened on the pull-rates. My kids were enjoying the better rates in S&V's earlier sets, even though the hits themselves weren't as amazing.
From the moment I found out about this set coming out I decided that I don’t care about pull rates. Even the standard cards have amazing art and all the nostalgia is gonna make this a really fun set to open. Waiting for my gf to get home so we can open our packs that we got before work this morning.
I always felt like the thick lined full arts especially with the stars surrounding them were considered “shining”. Either way I always liked the simplicity of them too
Watching these openings is really deflating my hype to open packs. There are so many cool cards in the set, and I currently have 2 ETBs and 1 premium collection pre ordered, but it seems pointless to open them with these pull rates. I know they can't be handing them out left and right, but this seems super low. I may just keep 1 of each sealed, and crack the 1 ETB for the promo snorlax.
@@brianp6859 it will probably change come the second print. With pulls this hard, it's guaranteed lots of people will buy and buy. Once the sales drop off from lack of interest, we will get a loaded second print. Just my 2 cents on it.
So far my good pulls came from ETB and the Binder. I bought two boosters and no hits from them at all. I guess the Pokemon company thought, we should br grateful that they gave us the Promo Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander. 😬
I think we've been a bit spoiled with Crown Zenith and especially Obsidian Flames (though I opened a single ETB of that and just got a Houndoom EX... the second ETB was much better!), I empathise with them trying to find the sweet spot with the pull rates. When it comes to the boxes, I have 1 of everything except the booster bundles and mini tins prebooked and I will try and pick up another poster box so I can display each side but then will probably just go for booster bundles if I decide I want to crack some more open.
Hey danny. Would u recommend the binder collection to put cards in? I bought 1 but not sure if i need extra. Only reason is its basically free because u pay for the packs
They Definitely nerfed the pull rates...so far from the few youtubers ive seen, they've not been getting much from the ETBs. The special energies dont make up for the loss of the masterballs in Japanese. I did order the UPC but will probably stick to just mastering my japanesse 151 😊
I'm completing this set regardless of the pull rates. This set it what brought me back to the cards and I've been rebuilding my collection for about 6 months now getting ready for this. Friday can't come soon enough
@@CatBack94 Not from the openings I've seen so far! The boxes he opened in this video were much better than the case of ETBs in my opinion but every box will be different so I'm sure it'll be hit or miss
I really love how they took the rainbow and made it the outline of the full arts, it really makes the Pokémon look like they are popping off the card, but also I’m so glad rainbow rares have faded away.
Also you would think the pull rate would be awesome because it’s a special set and the fact that they are cutting pack quantities from boxes, you would think they would want to help their customers?When will Pokémon stop screwing with ppl?
I am trying to get back into the game. I use to collect them when I was a kid (gen 1). I saw that singles cost 11 per pack, but the box with Snorlax is 55 and comes with 9…. That’s way cheaper than buying singles. Logically for the money that would be the best, right? What do you mean by hits, and what exact cards are you trying to pull?
New to new Pokemon sets. I collected when I was a kid, 20+ years ago. I understand this video is about pull rates, but for the cost to card value per pack, it seems like a potential goldmine in a few years when folks can't get these packs anymore. Anyone have an perspective on this?
Love this variety opening. Pulls are tough for sure. Just triggers my OCD when you open the packs and the top 1/4 is cut off from the camera angle. Much love.
I think the main issue is just that we don't have booster boxes for this set. As far as ancillary products go, it feels to line up with my general experience for S&V haha
Pulling is nice if you are just collecting and having fun. It's not good for investing however. The only card I would invest in this set money-wise would be japanese pikachu masterball.
I thought decreased pull rates + actual game play usage in championship decks would increase the value of certain cards. So I was actually excited to start opening packs of a set with limited run cards and pulling some scarce treasures. The chase isn't fun if I know I'm gonna catch em all 😅
Thanks for sharing the opening Danny, set is looking a bit tough on the pulls... and the demi-god packs seem super rare... gonna be hard to master this set opening packs
I'm just getting 1 binder, 1 poster, 1 of each alakazam/zapdos and then focusing on etbs/booster bundles (depending if the snorlax promo is good money back on the etb).
Looks like it’s going to be a fun set, just difficult to master. What do you do with all the ancillary products? I’d buy one of the binders if they don’t have expected homes.
Unfortunately I won't be getting any 151 product anytime soon as all 3 of my kids have there birthdays all in September/October then Christmas so not sure if I'm guna be able to afford anything 😢 but looking forward to see what everyone else will be pulling 🙂
I missed out on the last 4 or 5 sets lol had to quit collecting pokemon cards because life got so hard and i collect alot of other things, sometimes it feels like a big waste when u buy many product and dont get great pulls but i will be back for this set! Ive been excited since it was first announced
This set is definitely going to be rough opening….im gonna open a few packs….but its gonna be all about the singles…..which will probably be more expensive in set for quite a while.
I think it’s funny that so many people complained about easy pull rates in the last few sets, and now that the pull rates are harder people are disappointed because it will be harder to master. Pack opening might not be as fun but the harder it is to pull cards the more valuable they become.
It seems the pull rates vary from person to person. I've seen a couple videos were the secret rares were coming out left and right, but then I watch this video and your etb video and it seems the rates are a bit rough. I wonder if there was a mixing issue at the factory 🤔. You saw Rev's video where he pulled like a million Charizard, then others barely pull anything. Quite confusing I must admit. I wonder if you ordered a booster bundle display from a different distributor if the rates would be different? Either way tho, you got some nice pulls. The Zapdos and Blastoise, and all the SIRs in this set are beautiful. Thanks for all the great content you've given us.
Man this Venusaur EX is the one chase i have so wish me luck Been just buying some singles over the years but 151 and recent sets with illustration rares really peaked my interest so i now preordered some stuff to try my luck at pulling some stuff for once
Very disappointed they did the energy with the cosmos pattern and not the reg holes. Seems like a good set to bring that back with. BTW that lightning had a swirl 😁
This set is deflating right before my eyes. I've seen enough videos to know, that getting anywhere near what we want while opening packs is never going to happen. I almost don't even want to open anything at all. Maybe one of each product for the promos and to get a taste. But, eek... feels like Pokemon GO! You keep opening, and getting nothing or stuff you don't want. LOL
Man...i LOVE that squirtle promo!!! It unfortunately seems like this set may be impossible to complete without buying cards separately. 😢 i love opening packs and it seems from all the videos I've seen that they have def made pull rates harder. Love the videos. Keep it up man. ❤❤ we love you!
Can't wait for this set to come out! I pre ordered 6 booster bundles and 3 ETB's and 3 UPC's. I will probably just buy singles for anything I don't pull after that other than periodically picking something up if there is a sale somewhere.
Was planning on most of Christmas list to be mostly 151 now I’m pivoting to singles and Crown Zenith which hopefully goes on fire sale with Black Friday ;) Love the content Danny God bless all as always :)
TPC knows how many people are hyped for SV151, instead of them letting us have fun opening the products, they tighten the pull rates to sell even more products then they already would have… All about the money 😔
Pokemon have obviously give poor pull rates, this is no doubt down to the fact they know this set will sell well regardless due to it being those OG 151. Pokemon company and Nintendo are exploiting their fans with this set and its sad at this point. I want to enjoy pokemon TCG again but they are making it really difficult with their decisions as of late and sales are crashing too, so its probably the WORST time to treat your customers poorly.
Instead of increasing the MSRP on the ETBs, they lowered the packs from 10 to 9, so that's the hidden cost increase.
I probably would have liked a higher price for 10 packs more
Its sad though as it costs them like 25 cents a pack to make at the most. I mean if Chinese knockoffs can sell at 50 cents a pack and make profit then we are truly getting ripped off its why the price increase was a joke. Oh manufacturing went up 5 cents? Lets raise the price 50 cents as they are making 900% markup on these products and want to continue with such a poor value product.
@@vherostarthe pokemon company sells to distributors who then sell it to big box stores or lgs stores who then turn around and sell it to you. if you have a problem write to the distro companies so they can give it to stores for less
Hidden shrink-flation at its best!
@@vherostarI agree with you on principal, although tpc certainly has additional costs like employees artists marketing packaging etc
I really agree with your comment hoping for a nostalgic look back on gen 2! I hope they do a set dedicated to gen 2, for me gen 2 just hits different, the nostalgia is extra strong. Can’t wait for the release of this though!
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If I spent $25+ on a booster bundle and all I got was a regular Wigglytuff ex I would be pissed 🤣
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Scratch off tickets pretty much 🤷🏻♂️
I spent 53$ on a etb and got a regular khangstan ex
A Gen 2 retro set would be awesome! Not too impressed with the pull rates so far. It seems like they are leaning heavily on those holo energies as “hits”
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I think this set is gonna feel like a let down for pull rates after what we got from crown zenith
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Shame that they seem to have tightened on the pull-rates. My kids were enjoying the better rates in S&V's earlier sets, even though the hits themselves weren't as amazing.
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It could just be this set plus maybe upcoming speciality sets, we will have to wait and see when paradox rift comes out
Will be better to hold onto it for the long haul then yk!
From the moment I found out about this set coming out I decided that I don’t care about pull rates. Even the standard cards have amazing art and all the nostalgia is gonna make this a really fun set to open. Waiting for my gf to get home so we can open our packs that we got before work this morning.
Agree with you
100% bro! I love the holo energy cards Im collecting a bunch of each type. 👍
I always felt like the thick lined full arts especially with the stars surrounding them were considered “shining”. Either way I always liked the simplicity of them too
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I think I’m to the point where all I want to collect is Crown Zenith and 151. I’ll always watch for unique art from vintage sets as well!
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Completely agree. Special sets. Lots of fun to rip
Watching these openings is really deflating my hype to open packs. There are so many cool cards in the set, and I currently have 2 ETBs and 1 premium collection pre ordered, but it seems pointless to open them with these pull rates. I know they can't be handing them out left and right, but this seems super low. I may just keep 1 of each sealed, and crack the 1 ETB for the promo snorlax.
Yeah makes me wonder what the singles pricing will be like. Core set and reverses will be dirt cheap and the big hits will likely be pricey
@@brianp6859 it will probably change come the second print. With pulls this hard, it's guaranteed lots of people will buy and buy. Once the sales drop off from lack of interest, we will get a loaded second print. Just my 2 cents on it.
So far my good pulls came from ETB and the Binder. I bought two boosters and no hits from them at all. I guess the Pokemon company thought, we should br grateful that they gave us the Promo Bulbasaur, Squirtle and Charmander. 😬
So excited for this set! Bummer on the pull rates. I will probably have to buy a good amount of singles.
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I wouldn't mind if the pull rates will be slightly better on the next round of printing for this set
Lol
Lmao that never happens. Ever. It'll only get worse if anything.
i want this master set so bad!! i’ve never completed anything before, and i think this is definitely the one to complete:))
Im currently working on mastering 19 sets... smh 😢 pray for me, lol.
Wow it looks like the hit pull rates are not so great
I think we've been a bit spoiled with Crown Zenith and especially Obsidian Flames (though I opened a single ETB of that and just got a Houndoom EX... the second ETB was much better!), I empathise with them trying to find the sweet spot with the pull rates. When it comes to the boxes, I have 1 of everything except the booster bundles and mini tins prebooked and I will try and pick up another poster box so I can display each side but then will probably just go for booster bundles if I decide I want to crack some more open.
I meant Houndstone not Houndoom 🤦🏻♀️
I am digging the cosmos energies. Going to have to stock up on those for decks!
I can already tell Wigglytuff is going to be the bane of my existence
Hey danny. Would u recommend the binder collection to put cards in? I bought 1 but not sure if i need extra. Only reason is its basically free because u pay for the packs
I ordered one also. If your a big collector, can never have to many binders if you find yourself loving the art on the one we get
They Definitely nerfed the pull rates...so far from the few youtubers ive seen, they've not been getting much from the ETBs. The special energies dont make up for the loss of the masterballs in Japanese. I did order the UPC but will probably stick to just mastering my japanesse 151 😊
I'm completing this set regardless of the pull rates. This set it what brought me back to the cards and I've been rebuilding my collection for about 6 months now getting ready for this. Friday can't come soon enough
Pokemon one fifty sunday! Agreed about the confusion. Even the change to IR/SIR is annoying. Just call em paldean gallery cards amd alt arts damnit
After seeing how atrocious the pull rates are I'm thinking I'm leaving all my product sealed
Looks more or less the same as any other SV product
@@CatBack94 Not from the openings I've seen so far! The boxes he opened in this video were much better than the case of ETBs in my opinion but every box will be different so I'm sure it'll be hit or miss
It’s looking like it’s going to be a little rough pulling a master set
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Love the Bulk openings brother.oat of the folks open short vids. These are nice to see.
I really love how they took the rainbow and made it the outline of the full arts, it really makes the Pokémon look like they are popping off the card, but also I’m so glad rainbow rares have faded away.
Also you would think the pull rate would be awesome because it’s a special set and the fact that they are cutting pack quantities from boxes, you would think they would want to help their customers?When will Pokémon stop screwing with ppl?
I am trying to get back into the game. I use to collect them when I was a kid (gen 1). I saw that singles cost 11 per pack, but the box with Snorlax is 55 and comes with 9…. That’s way cheaper than buying singles. Logically for the money that would be the best, right? What do you mean by hits, and what exact cards are you trying to pull?
New to new Pokemon sets. I collected when I was a kid, 20+ years ago. I understand this video is about pull rates, but for the cost to card value per pack, it seems like a potential goldmine in a few years when folks can't get these packs anymore.
Anyone have an perspective on this?
Love this variety opening. Pulls are tough for sure. Just triggers my OCD when you open the packs and the top 1/4 is cut off from the camera angle. Much love.
The artwork on this set is awesome! I can't get over that Blastoise 👌 great pull Danny!
I think the main issue is just that we don't have booster boxes for this set. As far as ancillary products go, it feels to line up with my general experience for S&V haha
Pulling is nice if you are just collecting and having fun. It's not good for investing however.
The only card I would invest in this set money-wise would be japanese pikachu masterball.
Happy Sunday, Danny Phantump & Friends! :)
I thought decreased pull rates + actual game play usage in championship decks would increase the value of certain cards. So I was actually excited to start opening packs of a set with limited run cards and pulling some scarce treasures. The chase isn't fun if I know I'm gonna catch em all 😅
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So question danny since u have opened a bunch of products what would u say is the best bang for the buck hit wize ?
I like that they had some lower priced items like poster and binder sets.
How is card quality compared to the last two sets? Paldea and obsidian flames both had horrible card quality
That Giovanni's Charisma is an awesome card! Thanks for looking into all of these packs and looking at the amazing artwork!
Thanks for sharing the opening Danny, set is looking a bit tough on the pulls... and the demi-god packs seem super rare... gonna be hard to master this set opening packs
Pull rates a rough. Bought two etb and got regular energy and holo energy.
Hey Danny, can we pull the Mew SI (in the village) in regular packs, or where are they said to be in?
Danny I really want one of the binders for my collection. Do you have one left I could buy from you?
I'm just getting 1 binder, 1 poster, 1 of each alakazam/zapdos and then focusing on etbs/booster bundles (depending if the snorlax promo is good money back on the etb).
But Danny if you count the energy foil doesn’t bit come to the S&v pullrate ? Like they replaced reg ex for the energy?
My oldest kiddo has the binder collection and UPC preordered. She’s really excited for this set
It's weird seeing the different pull rates from different creators. I love how you really deep dive into the stats on everything!❤
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Thx for all that info! Ill try to put my hand on some bundles and maybe a few poster box ! Im so exited
I am hoping once this releases, that prices dont sky rocket. Its clear the poster bundle is much better.
Can you provide measurements for the poster? Would like to order a frame for mine
I preordered the binder collection myself, so I love that you reviewed all of the items! Keep up the great content!
Can you post a link to all the different types of cards to chance? It seems like you didn’t care for any of the basic holos like in the past
Awesome video Danny. Very interesting watching you open all the new 151 product. It's going to be a tough one to complete
Danny what's the measurement on that poster so we can have the frame ready?
Looks like it’s going to be a fun set, just difficult to master. What do you do with all the ancillary products? I’d buy one of the binders if they don’t have expected homes.
Unfortunately I won't be getting any 151 product anytime soon as all 3 of my kids have there birthdays all in September/October then Christmas so not sure if I'm guna be able to afford anything 😢 but looking forward to see what everyone else will be pulling 🙂
wish they rolled the poster so it doesnt have the fold lines in it instantly... can you get the lines out somehow?
The local card shop has already raised the prices for their booster bundles to $38. At that price its better to buy any of the other 3 products
This Holo-Energys is so Trolling xD
I could be wrong but it feels like whatever 152 product you get is either full of duds or hits
I missed out on the last 4 or 5 sets lol had to quit collecting pokemon cards because life got so hard and i collect alot of other things, sometimes it feels like a big waste when u buy many product and dont get great pulls but i will be back for this set! Ive been excited since it was first announced
Charmander the perfect ending to a great video!!! I can’t wait for the release of 151!!!!
Great content, just gotta try and hold the cards down a little. Lots of the openings were out of frame. Love your videos regardless!
The Zapdos SIR is possibly my chase card in the set.
So far for pre-order have 2 Ultra Premium, 1 tin display case, 2 ETBs, and 1 poster :)
I didn’t know the poster had a back image. Buying some now lol
I’ve got quite a bit of 151 pre-ordered, looking forward to some arriving by Wednesday!
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This set is definitely going to be rough opening….im gonna open a few packs….but its gonna be all about the singles…..which will probably be more expensive in set for quite a while.
I think it’s funny that so many people complained about easy pull rates in the last few sets, and now that the pull rates are harder people are disappointed because it will be harder to master. Pack opening might not be as fun but the harder it is to pull cards the more valuable they become.
Facts
i still i like the Japanese set with master ball better, what do you think?
Low pull rates and high demand for the cards usually results in high prices in general right?
It seems the pull rates vary from person to person. I've seen a couple videos were the secret rares were coming out left and right, but then I watch this video and your etb video and it seems the rates are a bit rough. I wonder if there was a mixing issue at the factory 🤔. You saw Rev's video where he pulled like a million Charizard, then others barely pull anything. Quite confusing I must admit.
I wonder if you ordered a booster bundle display from a different distributor if the rates would be different?
Either way tho, you got some nice pulls. The Zapdos and Blastoise, and all the SIRs in this set are beautiful.
Thanks for all the great content you've given us.
the pull rates are looking ehhhhhh maybe the next print run will be better
I would love to get that binder i really like your channel because it is straight forward keep it up
Thank you for doing this I was wondering how the pull rates would be on this very sought after set.
Loving the art work on the alt arts from this set.
Man this Venusaur EX is the one chase i have so wish me luck
Been just buying some singles over the years but 151 and recent sets with illustration rares really peaked my interest so i now preordered some stuff to try my luck at pulling some stuff for once
I admitted making popcorn for this; keep up the vids Dan!
I got a etb a booster bundle and a binder collection and didn't do that great on the pull rates
Very disappointed they did the energy with the cosmos pattern and not the reg holes. Seems like a good set to bring that back with. BTW that lightning had a swirl 😁
I kinda like these pull rates more. Makes the hits more exclusive
This set is deflating right before my eyes. I've seen enough videos to know, that getting anywhere near what we want while opening packs is never going to happen. I almost don't even want to open anything at all. Maybe one of each product for the promos and to get a taste. But, eek... feels like Pokemon GO! You keep opening, and getting nothing or stuff you don't want. LOL
Man...i LOVE that squirtle promo!!! It unfortunately seems like this set may be impossible to complete without buying cards separately. 😢 i love opening packs and it seems from all the videos I've seen that they have def made pull rates harder. Love the videos. Keep it up man. ❤❤ we love you!
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Can't wait for this set to come out! I pre ordered 6 booster bundles and 3 ETB's and 3 UPC's. I will probably just buy singles for anything I don't pull after that other than periodically picking something up if there is a sale somewhere.
Was planning on most of Christmas list to be mostly 151 now I’m pivoting to singles and Crown Zenith which hopefully goes on fire sale with Black Friday ;)
Love the content Danny God bless all as always :)
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Am I yelling? It feels like I'm yelling. 😂😂😂 You're the man, Danny! It's exciting stuff, we get it!
The pull rates look terrible already Danny. So excited for this launch, but might just keep some stuff sealed and buy singles.
Love your channel man! Thanks for all that you do!
Honestly love how the set looks, what kinda ruins it for me is how low the pull rate seems on Just the regular art rares…
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151 is amazing! The arts are really great
TPC knows how many people are hyped for SV151, instead of them letting us have fun opening the products, they tighten the pull rates to sell even more products then they already would have…
All about the money 😔
It kind of a one time purchase item for the contents. I wouldnt buy it more than once unless i wanted two posters.
My LCS is allowing 2 of each sku so I'll get those plus I preordered 5 booster bundles from Walmart. 74 packs total. I'd probably get more if I could.
Personally if I was going to buy the binder collection it would be for the binder, the cards are just a throw in.
Sadly I am buying that set more for the poster then the packs. The cards are just a nice bonus lol
wonder if this set is going to be too overprinted to offload product
Pokemon have obviously give poor pull rates, this is no doubt down to the fact they know this set will sell well regardless due to it being those OG 151. Pokemon company and Nintendo are exploiting their fans with this set and its sad at this point. I want to enjoy pokemon TCG again but they are making it really difficult with their decisions as of late and sales are crashing too, so its probably the WORST time to treat your customers poorly.
love your content! excited to get my 151 booster bundles!
Thanks for doing this for the community!!!
I absolutely agree this set is a ton of fun to open.
Japan: one guaranteed secret per box and our quality control is phantastic.
America: ha ha f you, get rekt.