These documentaries are great because you read one Atlantic article the week after it airs and it's always like "The filmmakers did not include that investigators found a woman's severed head inside Bob's fridge."
Never expected Nick to discuss this. The filmmakers were really scummy for hiding so many material details that made it obvious that Steven Avery was guilty as hell
I agree with that.. but still things like the bloodsample having been opened and clearly taken some of it with syringe. You cannot also really trust the cops aswell as the guy. Since the cops also didn't handle the nephews interrogation at all professionally but feeding him the right answers when he clearly had no clue what they want to hear. Was so dim that tought he will just get out if he says what they want. You don't go like: "Noonoo wasn't it more like something sharp you did something like this, noo not knife but maybe having something to do with wood, yes an axe go to prison." I think as bs "documentary" is Leaving Neverland, which has the excat same thing. There is provable lies with the guys and the director straight up said that they are looking it Only from the quilty angle. Not going to the guys earlier scams. You don't make a documentary like that, it's reality tv at that point.
Fr the first season left enough clues that I was like, “I don’t get. This guy seems guilty? Am I missing something?” And then did what u did and read one sentence on google.
Nick had a funny bit on Cumtown about Adnan Syed. It was something about how he said that it was impossible to walk a certain route in a half hour to kill his girlfriend, and then the filmmakers tested it and walked that route and it took exactly a half hour.
@@phytoswillams7835adnan got let out of jail because there was a serial killer in the area at the time that didn’t come up in the trial. The state are yet to decide if they’re gonna bother retrialing hik I’m pretty sure
Yeah dude I think a lot of us know that Avery was guilty (it was shitty for the filmmakers to portray it so dishonestly). The REAL tragedy is the disabled nephew that was thrown in prison as a convenience. I wish they had focused on that. That guy is a victim and his life is over now
@@matthewp9217you realize the police can set up, or just screw up an investigation, on a guilty person right? It’s like some 90 iq shit to not understand corrupt police doesn’t automatically mean Avery is innocent. It’s clear as day Avery is a rapo scumbag and clear as day he did it
Not a tragedy, he was not mentally ill. His IQ was low,.but normal range. That creep admitted to having sex with a tied up Theresa, he told his mommy he wanted to know how sex felt. That moron is still in jail, his conviction was not repealed. He is still jail, where he belongs
Because of the backpack on the floor and the Fjällraven shirt this episode looks like a college senior bully who’s forced to retake a class shooting the shit with a freshman chess club kid until the professor arrives.
I like how N does a bit with a premise and a middle chunk and a payoff, then A starts riffing in the wake while N looks at his phone and doesnt say anything else.
They have a point when it comes to Avery. But not every subject of a documentary is fair game. Errol Morris’s ‘The Thin Blue Line’ played a critical role in the exoneration of a death row inmate.
That’s probably what started it all. “The Thin Blue Line” is often hailed as one of the best documentaries every. And every single future documentary maker saw that shit when they were growing up, so they all had to have their own “Thin Blue Line” greatest documentary even which saves the lives of innocent men on death row. Only problem is all these new guys only have actually guilty guys to work with.
@@MJW238 not necessarily. The Netflix series ‘The Innocent Man’ involved a guy wrongfully convicted. I’d say we can’t definitely conclude that either Michael Peterson or Sean Ellis were guilty-both were the subject of high profile docuseries.
@@conscious-typeperson4583 The Staircase was a good series, but I think Michael Peterson was probably guilty, however. I’m just wary, when it comes to any documentary, of basing my views based solely on a piece of media explicitly designed to entertain me and cause me to believe a particular position.
This shit seems to happen all the time. Not many things more pathetic than carrying water for a murderer and trying to free them to make yourself feel good. Kim Kardashian literally only tries to free the most obviously guilty people.
Weird point to be making. Most of the people Kim K got out were guilty of drug charges, not violent offences. I don't think a single person she helped had a murder conviction.
I’m not a simp for either of them, but Weinstein seems to be what people in saner times used to call a sex pest. Is it enough to give him 20 years in the can (a life sentence basically)? I don’t think so.
We KNOW that Avery was guilty. The cops should have just let case unfold and he would have still been found guilty. They fudged the evidence, knowing he was guilty. They planted evidence that was ACTUALLY evidence, but just so it would be found where they needed it to be found to make the charges stick. Literally all they had to do was a little more leg work and it would have been an easy conviction.
@@GerardPerry Then you’re just dumb lmao there was never any physical or other forensic evidence to support their conviction in the first place and the actual assailant subsequently admitted to acting alone.
@@Yodeller1917it’s so funny that was the narrative their defense and the documentaries went with. If you just look at the court docs, there’s a shit ton of evidence left out. All those guys were violent alcoholics, one of them confessed like 18 times, and none of them had an alibi
@@Yodeller1917You have not done any research. Damien's lawyer literally did not bother to present an alibi for Damien since they couldn't find witnesses to back up his story. Jesse kept confessing to the crime, even after lawyers told him not to. Jesse said they were all drinking, and tossed an empty bottle of booze away that evening... The bottle was found and had the perps fingerprints on it. Damien was weird, had a history of massive psychiatric problems, and was into Aliester Crowley type black magic stuff.
Reminds me of Netflix’s “Our Planet.” “Documentary” It was claiming walruses were committing suicide because global warming and showed heartbreaking footage of walruses falling to their deaths! What they edited out, that was later released by the idiots in behind the scene footage…was that polar bears were up on the cliff scaring them off the side.
Avery may be guilty, but this is something that's never been answered for me: Avery is found guilty by himself in the first trial, and then guilty with an accessory in the second. Both of these things cannot simultaneously be true.
Bold statement to say "all of the got the wrong guy stories are wrong and they are just criminals". Im starting to believe this is infact a center left podcast. You guys are heroes, telling it like it is bruther!
I think a lot of you missed the point of the documentary, which was, if he did it, was it because he was driven to it by being fucked with by the Sheriffs department and going to jail for something he was later acquitted for.
I think what many fail to ask here is: what if Avery also did the rape/attempted murder that landed him in jail in the first place? I don’t trust his first exoneration.
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@@miloseveggies8064 on paper that’s all it was but he was apparently obsessed with her. He would call her work constantly. And while she might have been to his place 3 times, he requested her personally dozens of times. He killed her.
Making a murderer ia absolute garbage. Avery is 100 percent GUILTY, and will rot in jail until the end. The creep nephew rapi$t, belongs in jail forever as well. He gets a parole in 20 years i Think?
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@@GaiaMisery yeah I feel like I have a pretty good radar for bullshit. And I’ve went my entire life absolutely certain they got fucked over so this other dudes comment surprised me
@@GaiaMiseryThey are seriously disturbed individuals, especially the guy, but I agree, everything I've seen seems to indicate there was no concrete evidence to implicate them in the crime.
So, if you guys actually watched the final season of the documentary series you would find that the lady lawyer from NYC showed pretty conclusively it was the other cousin who testified against Avery that actually did it. She showed he had access to the burn pit, the property, and even Steven Avery's blood. I get that it doesn't further Nick's strong desire to be a republican apologist to say that, or to neglect that those cops did lock up Avery previously for a crime he was proven to have not committed, but it is what is most likely.
It was never conclusive that the cousin committed the murder. All of it was circumstantial evidence. I read an interview from Ken Kratz and he talked about how ridiculous that claim was and there was virtually no evidence for it.
Defense lawyers' jobs are to build reasonable doubt. That's not the same as proof. If she showed it "conclusively" then Avery would be out, wouldn't he.
@@awill3454 You believe the disgraced former prosecutor? Also, the majority evidence is circumstantial, including all of the evidence used to convict Avery in the first place. The circumstantial evidence argument doesn't mean anything.
I know it's "too conservative" for cumtown fans to ever even stomach without crying tears of hair dye, but the follow up "Convicting A Murderer" did a great job exposing the Netflix docuseries, while staying "bipartisan" / apolitical
The MaMer documentary is my litmus for people's ability to reason. If someone believes there's more than 1% chance Steven Avery is innocent, that person isn't worth talking to about anything.
That's not true. Sometimes suspects completely fly under the radar. Like Delphi the cops didn't get the most obvious suspect who lived right next to the murder and matched the suspect on video. There have been people convicted and executed and then 20 years later they find the actual perpetrator through DNA. Go to wikipedia list of wrongfully executed persons.
This is just such an absolutely brain dead perspective to have. “If it wasn’t the literal first suspect, then who was it????” I mean holy shit dude. Imagine if someone accused you of a random crime, and their argument was “you seem suspicious, so if not you, then who?”
Hi I recently watched a piece of media and believe it’s message. It is unbelievable to me that someone else who is a different person than me would watch a different piece of media and believe it’s message. This is unbelievable to me
Adnan is almost certainly guilty (article on Quilette a little while ago) but Avery case is more ambiguous. See the cousin as a suspect. I actually think you guys are the sloppy/irresponsible ones here, taking CAM at face value.
Watch.. the new series was lying and it just goes in on Ken Kratz and ties his need to convict to his life long struggle with impotence. Like interviews with experts analyzing his voice pitch and relating it to dick size. Thats from the chapter "Soft Justice."
No chance in hell How did his blood get in the car, there is no answer to that question Some cop with zero stake in the game didn't gather it from a sink and plant it there, that is the most absurd thing I've ever heard
I mean the fact she drove to his house and never made it home and her remains were found on the property is just a baseline. Not really sure about specific details
@@Gibbs316 they also found her blood in his vehicle. The defenses entire argument in court was basically “well maybe law enforcement planted the blood there”. The FBI tested the samples and concluded the biomarkers typically shown in blood that’s been stored in vials was not present, and the defense brought in an expert to say that the test “might” be inconclusive. They had nothing to really show law enforcement did anything out of the ordinary.
Adam looks a kid at my job named Josh. He is weak and sickly with an over bite that is constantly protruding. Plus he farts constantly and smells like shit. The kid looks like his mom. You might think he has high functioning inbreeding or something. I can only imagine that she got a guy drunk he (the father) thought she was someone else from behind. Adam is a little taller than Josh tho.
Adam is a black hole of charisma. I don't understand how he has a show or a following. He's the DJ Khaled of comedy. All he does is get funny people on his show and go, "Haha, yeah..."
This was a waste of time, just two procrastinating hipsters with squeeky voices making fun of a prosecutor with a slightly less squeeky voice, without even a sprinkling of facts.
These documentaries are great because you read one Atlantic article the week after it airs and it's always like "The filmmakers did not include that investigators found a woman's severed head inside Bob's fridge."
"Or that he was using it as a fleshlight when they arrived."
i cant find anything about head in fridge only remains that bob (bobby) might of dumped on the burn pit, where did you read that at?
@@pandaberserk3390 lol come on, breh
Adam impersonating the wimpy prosecutor still somehow sounds more masculine and intimidating than Adam's normal speaking voice.
Never expected Nick to discuss this. The filmmakers were really scummy for hiding so many material details that made it obvious that Steven Avery was guilty as hell
Wait, I didn’t know this. Like what?
But the nephew though.. getting walked into a confession through no words of his own.
I agree with that.. but still things like the bloodsample having been opened and clearly taken some of it with syringe. You cannot also really trust the cops aswell as the guy. Since the cops also didn't handle the nephews interrogation at all professionally but feeding him the right answers when he clearly had no clue what they want to hear. Was so dim that tought he will just get out if he says what they want. You don't go like: "Noonoo wasn't it more like something sharp you did something like this, noo not knife but maybe having something to do with wood, yes an axe go to prison."
I think as bs "documentary" is Leaving Neverland, which has the excat same thing. There is provable lies with the guys and the director straight up said that they are looking it Only from the quilty angle. Not going to the guys earlier scams. You don't make a documentary like that, it's reality tv at that point.
the police found her teeth in steven avery's burn pit.
They are actually working on a doc that presents the other side of the story.
I remember being convinced he was wrongly accused. Then reading one sentence on google and realizing he definitely did it.
We are not immune to propaganda. Or being gay.
Fr the first season left enough clues that I was like, “I don’t get. This guy seems guilty? Am I missing something?” And then did what u did and read one sentence on google.
These two look like a heterosexual married couple who sell blueberries at Portland farmers markets.
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Which ones which
Nick had a funny bit on Cumtown about Adnan Syed. It was something about how he said that it was impossible to walk a certain route in a half hour to kill his girlfriend, and then the filmmakers tested it and walked that route and it took exactly a half hour.
It was a drive not a walk, DNA evidence is what allowed Adnan out of jail.
The episode was ep 19 Rape science, about 42 minutes in. Nick also mentions Steven Avery and says he's definitely guilty.
@@phytoswillams7835adnan got let out of jail because there was a serial killer in the area at the time that didn’t come up in the trial. The state are yet to decide if they’re gonna bother retrialing hik I’m pretty sure
@@ActuallyNotHayden I keep trying to post a link but it keeps getting deleted. It was DNA that freed him. Just Google DNA and Adnan.
A serial killer whose accomplice was Jay? Who led them to her car? Makes 0 sense
Why is nobody talking about Nick Mullen being on IR for the Vikings?
We need you back man. Best backup QB in the league.
He feeds Adam the tight-end his balls
It's actually a different guy. The NFL doesn't allow homosexual players.
That’s Nick Mullens bubba, you were close though
@@domsanchez148you have it backwards. it's heterosexuals
Skol, this is true his bfs are micheal Sam& micheal ore
Yeah dude I think a lot of us know that Avery was guilty (it was shitty for the filmmakers to portray it so dishonestly). The REAL tragedy is the disabled nephew that was thrown in prison as a convenience. I wish they had focused on that. That guy is a victim and his life is over now
He really wasn't though, but his cousin who testified against him absolutely did it.
what about the tampered evidence?
@@matthewp9217you realize the police can set up, or just screw up an investigation, on a guilty person right? It’s like some 90 iq shit to not understand corrupt police doesn’t automatically mean Avery is innocent. It’s clear as day Avery is a rapo scumbag and clear as day he did it
Not a tragedy, he was not mentally ill. His IQ was low,.but normal range. That creep admitted to having sex with a tied up Theresa, he told his mommy he wanted to know how sex felt. That moron is still in jail, his conviction was not repealed. He is still jail, where he belongs
@@matthewp9217zero evidence of tampered evidence. All Netflix lies were revealed. There is a lot of info out there, Google it
Because of the backpack on the floor and the Fjällraven shirt this episode looks like a college senior bully who’s forced to retake a class shooting the shit with a freshman chess club kid until the professor arrives.
I like how N does a bit with a premise and a middle chunk and a payoff, then A starts riffing in the wake while N looks at his phone and doesnt say anything else.
I love how gingerly Adam speaks while Nick is on his phone as to not interrupt his focus 3:30
Another phone scroll?
It was actually Ben Avery
They have a point when it comes to Avery. But not every subject of a documentary is fair game. Errol Morris’s ‘The Thin Blue Line’ played a critical role in the exoneration of a death row inmate.
And he went on to sue Errol Morris and scam him basically
Errol Morris also made a series defending Jeffrey MacDonald, who is 100% and very obviously guilty. So he's fairly hit and miss.
That’s probably what started it all.
“The Thin Blue Line” is often hailed as one of the best documentaries every.
And every single future documentary maker saw that shit when they were growing up, so they all had to have their own “Thin Blue Line” greatest documentary even which saves the lives of innocent men on death row.
Only problem is all these new guys only have actually guilty guys to work with.
@@MJW238 not necessarily. The Netflix series ‘The Innocent Man’ involved a guy wrongfully convicted. I’d say we can’t definitely conclude that either Michael Peterson or Sean Ellis were guilty-both were the subject of high profile docuseries.
@@conscious-typeperson4583 The Staircase was a good series, but I think Michael Peterson was probably guilty, however.
I’m just wary, when it comes to any documentary, of basing my views based solely on a piece of media explicitly designed to entertain me and cause me to believe a particular position.
TAFS Formula: Nick makes 10/10 jokes whilst Adam states facts.
Throw a fat guy who repeats nicks same joke but also does the laugh track and by god I think we gotta show!!
@@MartinMcfly85 Don’t traumatize me, bro. 😭 🥀
Avery's definitely guilty, but I think the cops likely planted evidence to get a conviction. Both can be true.
A detective on the oj case on record said they plant evidence when they know someone is guilty. Pretty wild thing to admit
Oh word?
It’s literally not though
@@Guyvermectin how convincing
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The shitty part about this whole this is that many many people will handwave this away because daily wire is involved
yes it's extremely important for the nation to know about a tv show
To be fair Daily Wire is cancer.
The facts still exist without DW
Fwiw a pretty bland centrist guy was working on the doc before DW bought it and inserted Candace.
This would be a cool meta true crime movie where the murderer tries to break out by having Netflix make a true crime documentary
That's pretty close to the plot of Primal Fear.
This shit seems to happen all the time. Not many things more pathetic than carrying water for a murderer and trying to free them to make yourself feel good. Kim Kardashian literally only tries to free the most obviously guilty people.
Weird point to be making. Most of the people Kim K got out were guilty of drug charges, not violent offences. I don't think a single person she helped had a murder conviction.
Thin Blue Line guy was actually innocent. That doc is fucking incredible
So ahead of it’s time.
They need to make a documentary about how Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby have been unjustly imprisoned.
I’m not a simp for either of them, but Weinstein seems to be what people in saner times used to call a sex pest. Is it enough to give him 20 years in the can (a life sentence basically)? I don’t think so.
TAFS gives us the sweet dead air we deserve, where cumtown was filled with nicks voices and hilarious bits.
With Stav yelping in the background like a retarded sea lion.
I like this better theyve been talking about current stuff instead of inside jokes from 10 yrars ago
this is infinitely better bc it never panders to the edge-only side of their fanbase
Very bold move for this center-left podcast to go after Making a Murderer
Whoa a clip upload not at 2 in the morning kudos kudos
This one for the UK boys
I came here trying to find out more about the parts of the MAM case that were left out, but found Beavis and Butthead
We KNOW that Avery was guilty. The cops should have just let case unfold and he would have still been found guilty. They fudged the evidence, knowing he was guilty. They planted evidence that was ACTUALLY evidence, but just so it would be found where they needed it to be found to make the charges stick. Literally all they had to do was a little more leg work and it would have been an easy conviction.
Adam must have shared his admin login for the daily wire with Nick.
Does anyone know where these chairs are from?
I don’t know where but I can tell you when. The 1970’s
You have 30 grand?
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They are pretty chairs lol
Adam needs to chill with that goofy laugh
What about the Cental Park 5 or the West Memphis 3? Wouldn't it be wild if those people were guilty, too?
Always kinda thought the WM3 did that shit lol
The evidence "exculpating" the Central Park 5 was always very weak, IMO.
@@GerardPerry Then you’re just dumb lmao there was never any physical or other forensic evidence to support their conviction in the first place and the actual assailant subsequently admitted to acting alone.
They were guilty
RIP salem settlers and lynch mobs of history, you guys would have loved the internet mob witch hunts and public opinion trials
You guys are heroes for this. And the West Memphis Three is super guilty.
It’s so funny they basically convicted those guys because they smoked weed and listened to metal music
@@Yodeller1917it’s so funny that was the narrative their defense and the documentaries went with. If you just look at the court docs, there’s a shit ton of evidence left out. All those guys were violent alcoholics, one of them confessed like 18 times, and none of them had an alibi
No they’re not
@@Guyvermectin look up state’s evidence #500 in the case
@@Yodeller1917You have not done any research. Damien's lawyer literally did not bother to present an alibi for Damien since they couldn't find witnesses to back up his story. Jesse kept confessing to the crime, even after lawyers told him not to. Jesse said they were all drinking, and tossed an empty bottle of booze away that evening... The bottle was found and had the perps fingerprints on it. Damien was weird, had a history of massive psychiatric problems, and was into Aliester Crowley type black magic stuff.
Reminds me of Netflix’s “Our Planet.” “Documentary”
It was claiming walruses were committing suicide because global warming and showed heartbreaking footage of walruses falling to their deaths! What they edited out, that was later released by the idiots in behind the scene footage…was that polar bears were up on the cliff scaring them off the side.
Where was the support during my slip and fall suit at the Golden Corral in Delray Beach? I still get heated about this case.
So Avery & Dassey stabbed her up in that messy bedroom and didn't leave ANY blood anywhere in the room?
Wait until u hear aboit Netflix's "When They See Us" aka the "central park 5"
Avery may be guilty, but this is something that's never been answered for me:
Avery is found guilty by himself in the first trial, and then guilty with an accessory in the second. Both of these things cannot simultaneously be true.
Damn yall still going w this show
5:00 great use of the word sublimate
Who made the decision that this was the clip for UA-cam? Fire them.
Nick really looks like a public intellectual now
Bold statement to say "all of the got the wrong guy stories are wrong and they are just criminals". Im starting to believe this is infact a center left podcast. You guys are heroes, telling it like it is bruther!
I think a lot of you missed the point of the documentary, which was, if he did it, was it because he was driven to it by being fucked with by the Sheriffs department and going to jail for something he was later acquitted for.
I think what many fail to ask here is: what if Avery also did the rape/attempted murder that landed him in jail in the first place? I don’t trust his first exoneration.
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Jesus Christ, the dead air on this show is insane... Shane addressed this on the first episode.
Every day I miss his laugh
They had Shane Gillis in the documentary?
@Avengerie yeah he was the murderer
I thought this was a parody for a hot minute, but nope, they're just up on stage smelling their own farts out of wine glasses.
I was out on Steve once the doc detailed him setting a cat on fire 🐱
didnt know the place where jim the car salesman lives is real
And Avery called her work like 17 times asking for her.
Sorry for being too lazy to look it up, but how much of a prior relationship with Halbach did Avery have? Wasn't it just a few times for auto pics?
@@miloseveggies8064 on paper that’s all it was but he was apparently obsessed with her. He would call her work constantly. And while she might have been to his place 3 times, he requested her personally dozens of times. He killed her.
man that prosecutors voice was not nearly as weird as they portrayed it lol
Avery probably guilty, but that entire police force and the prosecutor were so corrupt.
Get him on the show
no documentary tells the truth
Wow. What a clip
Why does Adam wear a hoodie like that
Did he have his hand cut off by Hamas?
audio is one frame off :/
Making a murderer ia absolute garbage. Avery is 100 percent GUILTY, and will rot in jail until the end. The creep nephew rapi$t, belongs in jail forever as well. He gets a parole in 20 years i Think?
"Ken Kratz is a douchebag." Golden.
Ken Kratz huh, wonder what tribe that is.
I dont know if I miss Stav or not?
Just imagine someone laughing really obnoxiously after everything Nick says
@@kieran6417so any cum town fan
“You should get a little pussy freshener upper after you give birth. Like, you should be able to get it tightened back up, in the hospital, if you went through all of child birth, it’s only fair”. -Stav
@@kieran6417 or inserting some sex joke into every bit. That guy is all dicks, pussies, dick sucking eating ass and fucking.
Free our boy
Why was this a clip?..
There are a ton of documentaries about legit wrongfully imprisoned people … these guys sound clueless
Nick is totally correct, the West Memphis 3 also are guilty.
Wow ya think? I legit thought they got railroaded all these years. Anything I can watch that backs up what you’re saying?
@@maynardthegreat they are not guilty , I have read and watched videos trying to say they are guilty , it’s all BS
@@GaiaMisery yeah I feel like I have a pretty good radar for bullshit. And I’ve went my entire life absolutely certain they got fucked over so this other dudes comment surprised me
@@GaiaMiseryThey are seriously disturbed individuals, especially the guy, but I agree, everything I've seen seems to indicate there was no concrete evidence to implicate them in the crime.
Guilty😂
Making A Turderer
Making a turd burglar
I think he is guilty, but that follow up doc was terrible. They could have put it in 2 hours
disagree
did he really have a previous relationship with that girl? I knew she had been there before but not that they had dated.
I don't think he meant dated, but that there was already an established connection between the two, like they met or communicated beforehand.
relationship does not mean sex
Not a romantic relationship they knew each other tho
@@Yeaokayyeaoh they knew each other? Then he definitely did it. Stupid
I've found most viral/popular documentaries have some amount of bullshit in them
Nick lowkey looks like a hipster Droopy
Adam next interview.... candace owens
So, if you guys actually watched the final season of the documentary series you would find that the lady lawyer from NYC showed pretty conclusively it was the other cousin who testified against Avery that actually did it. She showed he had access to the burn pit, the property, and even Steven Avery's blood. I get that it doesn't further Nick's strong desire to be a republican apologist to say that, or to neglect that those cops did lock up Avery previously for a crime he was proven to have not committed, but it is what is most likely.
It was never conclusive that the cousin committed the murder. All of it was circumstantial evidence. I read an interview from Ken Kratz and he talked about how ridiculous that claim was and there was virtually no evidence for it.
They are guilty a shit
Defense lawyers' jobs are to build reasonable doubt. That's not the same as proof. If she showed it "conclusively" then Avery would be out, wouldn't he.
@@eduardosuarez2414 This is a hilariously naive take.
@@awill3454 You believe the disgraced former prosecutor? Also, the majority evidence is circumstantial, including all of the evidence used to convict Avery in the first place. The circumstantial evidence argument doesn't mean anything.
"what does iconsistent mean?"
Adams inability to keep a conversation flowing is always staggering
Nah man my boy Adnan innocent, it was Jay
Adam on coke is unbearable
Adam is unbearable in general
I know it's "too conservative" for cumtown fans to ever even stomach without crying tears of hair dye, but the follow up "Convicting A Murderer" did a great job exposing the Netflix docuseries, while staying "bipartisan" / apolitical
“Mmhmm.”
The MaMer documentary is my litmus for people's ability to reason. If someone believes there's more than 1% chance Steven Avery is innocent, that person isn't worth talking to about anything.
just clicked to comment that nick looks so chinese in the thumbnail
Guilty yes but NOT TRUE there are no legit docs about wrongful convictions. See The Thin Blue Line and Paradise Lost.
I think about this all the time. They’re all guilty. If there’s no other suspects then its like, then who was it. Same goes for the West Memphis 3
That's not true. Sometimes suspects completely fly under the radar. Like Delphi the cops didn't get the most obvious suspect who lived right next to the murder and matched the suspect on video. There have been people convicted and executed and then 20 years later they find the actual perpetrator through DNA. Go to wikipedia list of wrongfully executed persons.
You serious? There’s tremendous pressure put on police and prosecutors to close cases. Sometimes they get it wrong. It’s not the hard to believe.
This is just such an absolutely brain dead perspective to have. “If it wasn’t the literal first suspect, then who was it????” I mean holy shit dude. Imagine if someone accused you of a random crime, and their argument was “you seem suspicious, so if not you, then who?”
Hi I recently watched a piece of media and believe it’s message. It is unbelievable to me that someone else who is a different person than me would watch a different piece of media and believe it’s message. This is unbelievable to me
Adnan is almost certainly guilty (article on Quilette a little while ago) but Avery case is more ambiguous. See the cousin as a suspect. I actually think you guys are the sloppy/irresponsible ones here, taking CAM at face value.
Money doesn't buy fashion sesne.
this is especially true for holocaust documentaries
real + based
Watch.. the new series was lying and it just goes in on Ken Kratz and ties his need to convict to his life long struggle with impotence. Like interviews with experts analyzing his voice pitch and relating it to dick size. Thats from the chapter "Soft Justice."
100%
Steven Avery and his nephew were absolutely innocent of this crime.
It's true- me and Brendan were watching wrestling when it happened
No chance in hell
How did his blood get in the car, there is no answer to that question
Some cop with zero stake in the game didn't gather it from a sink and plant it there, that is the most absurd thing I've ever heard
@@frarfarfwasn’t the police department being sued by Avery?
@bossHogOG those cops had no personal stake whatsoever in any civil suit against the city, they could care less. Total bullshit from Netflix
I’m not a big fan of Candace Owens, but she did a good job exposing the truth on the subject.
Nothing states a documentary has to be true
Another nick phone scroll.
Peak comedy.
someone here explain how there's evidence Stephen Avery actually did it then
Or you could just fucking Google it
Nick does in this video, you can google it too
The evidence is bullshit and could have easily been one of the other family members.
I mean the fact she drove to his house and never made it home and her remains were found on the property is just a baseline. Not really sure about specific details
@@Gibbs316 they also found her blood in his vehicle. The defenses entire argument in court was basically “well maybe law enforcement planted the blood there”. The FBI tested the samples and concluded the biomarkers typically shown in blood that’s been stored in vials was not present, and the defense brought in an expert to say that the test “might” be inconclusive. They had nothing to really show law enforcement did anything out of the ordinary.
watching candace owens’ doc series deep diving about the real stuff they cut out was actually really good and covered everything netflix cut out
What an edgy take.
Fleeced
Adam looks a kid at my job named Josh. He is weak and sickly with an over bite that is constantly protruding. Plus he farts constantly and smells like shit. The kid looks like his mom. You might think he has high functioning inbreeding or something. I can only imagine that she got a guy drunk he (the father) thought she was someone else from behind. Adam is a little taller than Josh tho.
God damn
Adam is a black hole of charisma. I don't understand how he has a show or a following. He's the DJ Khaled of comedy. All he does is get funny people on his show and go, "Haha, yeah..."
god you sound straight
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This was a waste of time, just two procrastinating hipsters with squeeky voices making fun of a prosecutor with a slightly less squeeky voice, without even a sprinkling of facts.
Someone forgot their crazy pills
@@kylenewberry9792 That's an eloquent thought from Kanye-fan lol
Nick looked hot on Halloween! Trim the mustache & wear a man bun & you’ll get girls to watch u
you two should be in jail for this low effort nonsense